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255 Responses to “Gamenight: Phillies (42-36) At Athletics (42-34)”

1. Chris C. Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

   One hell of a beer for hopefully a hell of a lineup. At first I felt desperation when I saw the change, but hopefully this is just a shake up and they start acting like a first place team.

2. chris m Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

   i like this lineup…i like to see the lefties seperated…could be a little bette but this is a good change

3. danny Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

   Is this line up for real?! FUCK YEAH!

4. NEPA Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

   I’ve avoided this site, along with everything else sports, for about 3 or 4 days now because i end up getting very depressed and pissed just thinking about this team. But I’m now back and just praying for a win tonight. Florida already got smoked so that eases the tension a little, but at this time of the year I am solely focused on the Phillies. I love the lineup tonight. I’m not sure how 2-3 Utley Rollins combo will work but it obviosuly can’t hurt.

5. NEPA Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

   And I’m not sure who else feels the same but I’d much rather get like 5 or 6, nice RISP runs/2 out RBI’s/timely hits and a W than see them score like 20 runs like theyve done twice this year. We know they can break out for huge games then go rigth back into famine mode. I just want some nice key hits tonight, thats all I ask.

6. danny Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

   Welcome to reality, if only for a night, Charlie. Rollins is not a leadoff hitter.

7. danny Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

   God nobody on this team can move runners over.

8. Tim Malcolm Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

   They manufacture a run! YEAH!

9. NEPA Says:
   June 25th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

   Well 1 run is definitely a start. Is it just or did Werth look like he was running in slow motion on the sac fly? I think I just wanted to see him score and expected him not to.

10. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    if pat cant do it nobody can!ha

11. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Of course Howard strikes out. I know people say “well as long as he drives in 120, blah blah,” but these are the runs he needs to drive home.

12. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Tim, he has been the only one driving them in lately…His BA with RISP is ridiculous.

13. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Loudest umpire in the WORLD in there tonight.

14. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Does anyone have mlb.tv? I’m watching the game at my gfs and she doesn’t have cable.

15. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Phil, that’s true, but I’m staying in the situation: First inning with two outs and a guy on second? Gotta get the single.

16. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    I meant I’m watching it on mlb gameday which blows. I want to watch the actual game.

17. bmizzle Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    Yea, does anyone have an mlb username and password that they would be willing to lend a phillies fan stuck in new york?

18. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    I don’t know Tim. He’s hitting over .333 with RISP and 2 outs or somethign like that. That’s 1 out of every 3 times he comes to the plate and there’s a man on 2nd with 2 outs he manufactures a run. He can’t do it everytime he comes to the plate. I gotta give the guy credit. He’s been contributing a lot lately. A lot more than anyone on this team.

19. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Camera shows a fat guy with a goatee and mullet in a road Phils jersey.

    A’s announcer: “John Kruk is here tonight.”

    Haha. Not bad.

20. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    HAHA, Tim I noticed the loud umpire immediately. I did a double take to make sure he wasn’t repping a bullhorn.

21. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Phil, you’re right. It’s .340 with 2 out and RISP. I’ll give it to him — he’s been solid in that situation. Maybe I’m being too hard on him there.

22. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    no howard needs to do more…he needs to hit more…he needs to start rallies not end them…put the ball in play and things will happen. AND kendrick seems to struggle when he get two strikes. he tries to make a perfect pitch. he lacks that out pitch but needs to stop trying to pin place stuff with 2 strikes

23. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    He has the worst BA on the team next to Ruiz(probably) but he gets hits when it matters. He’s clutch as fuck.

24. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    chris m Howard can’t start rallies. That’s not a power hitters role. I said that about Kendrick earlier in another thread. He needs to go back to AAA and work on an out pitch.

25. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    tim your right… iknow you cant be contraversial on your website but the guys hitting under .220…cool that hes doing well with RISP but just imagine if he was at .270 which is not too much to ask. instead of his normal out he could get on and score some more runs

26. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    haward is clutch?? he gets his rbi’s in the 1st innings and in blowouts the majority of the time…when has he had a GW hit???he is NOT clutch…common phil that i ridiculous…and hes a power hitter but that doesnt mean he cant start rallys. maybe thats this teams problem. too many power hitters that cant start rallys

27. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    It’s weird because I’ve seen probably 88-92 percent of the Phils at bats this season, and it seems to me Howard doesn’t get it done with men on base. But his stats say he does it more than most. You can maybe chalk it up to the fact 34 percent isn’t quite great, but in baseball it is.

28. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Oh, and this ump kind of stinks.

29. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    sry phil but i really cant remember too many times howard has come through in a late close game… i dont remember any this year, but he could of done it once or so but not really

30. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    Yea, agreed. Howard has not been clutch this year. Maybe its the ton of strikeouts in big spots, but it all overshadows the somewhat clutch hits he has had. I’m not sure how that .340 stat exists, but I just can’t remember much but dissapointment from him this year.

31. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    tim where could i find his BA late and close bc i know they keep track of that somewhere

32. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    I don’t know how I feel about Rollins batting 3rd though. In my mind, 3rd is for your teams best all around hitter, and that’s (usually) not him. He can really be an enigma.

33. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    Um, he was horrible the 4 weeks and then was great 2 weeks than horrible a week and than has been really cluch lately. I don’t know how you guys don’t see it. Maybe because you expect him to be hitting a homer in these clutch situations. Look at last night. Man on 2nd down by 2 runs. Bam single. You are all blind.

34. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    …and still on pace to strike out 219 times this year.

35. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    here it is:
    Close and Late 52 7 7 1 0 3 8 10 1 25 1 0 .135 .286 .327 .613
    fucking terrible!!!
    .135 avg in 52 AB’s with 25 K’s in that position…NOT clutch

36. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    I don’t disagree with you on maybe were blind to it. On pace for the most K’s in the history of the game tends to do that sometimes.

37. Geoff Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    NICE one chase!

38. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    phil maybe your blind bc the numbers dont lie….
    8 of his rbi’s are late and close!!!!!

39. Geoff Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    i dont think i need to see jenkins or so taguchi out there again. i cant deal with those guys anymore. those guys totally suck man. totally worthless.

    at least feliz can play defense, other ways hed be worthless too.

40. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    I don’t know, the past 2 weeks Howard has been getting a ton of clutch hits. See Braves game in Atlanta game 3 against Cards game 1 against BoSox and a few other scattered singles in the past 6 game losing streak to score a run. He’s gotten about 20 RBI’s in the past 2 weeks, and we’ve lost most of those games in the past 2 weeks meaning he was getting RBI’s in situations where we’re behind. I guess when you get RBI’s when you’re down that’s not clutch?

41. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    BS call…tag was never made! Apparently there’s some weird force rule I don’t know about, or I need new glasses.

42. Geoff Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    note: fire the third base coach. he makes the wrong decision like all the time.

43. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    Damn, great play there. Tough in between hop and a strong throw. At least it was a nice timely hit. Pray Kendrick doesn’t blow up.

44. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    And why does it matter if you’re getting RBI’s late in the game? If you’re down by 1 in the 9th inning and you have 2 outs and a man on 2nd and 3rd and you hit a single I guess that’s not clutch because it’s late in the game? I’m not saying Howard has done that, but by your standards an RBI that comes late isn’t clutch.

45. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    I like the third base coach sending him. Make the RF make a great throw, we gotta be proactive in a streak like this, not sit back and rely on getting a second hit with RISP. That would be asking for too much.

46. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    phil there were the stats…7th inning and later in close game he strikouts half the time and hits .135 and has 8 rbi’s all season in that position…BTW cards game one we won by 18 runs so i dont consider any of those rbi’s clutch

47. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    I think what he’s saying is that 8 RBIs in that situation is not enough to label him as a great clutch performer on the season.

48. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Right move to send him. Good throw. Was he tagged? Tough one.

49. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Okay, well what about when there’s no score? 1st inning home runs? Tie games in the 4th inning? That’s not clutch?

50. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Looks like I’ll have to check out that Phillies’ Statue of Liberty when I’m in Manhattan this weekend.

51. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    striking out half the time late in a close games is NOT clutch and hitting .135 is not either…and your throwing scenarios out there that havnt happened that why i dont says he clutch. dont take it personal bc i like you phil

52. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    I don’t think he was tagged. I just saw the instant replay on mlb.com. I hate not being able to watch the game. I’m glad my gf is moving this weekend and will have cable now.

53. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    Any time the game is close is pretty clutch in my book, obviosuly even more so as it gets later in the game. But starting the game off right with like a 2 RBI single in the first inning is sometimes just as important as something in the 9th.

54. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    A first inning home run is not clutch. Sure it’s great to have, but clutch should be a term meaning a performance with a game impacting result in a pressure situation. How much pressure is there in the first inning?

55. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    I agree with NEPA.

56. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    One exception I’ll give you: if you can get a 1st inning home run to get off to a good start when your team is struggling in epic proportions (like being in the midst of a 6 game losing streak), that would be kind of clutch.

57. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    Clutch is about about pressure, but if you have 2 outs in the first with 2 runners on and someone puts a 2 run double in the gap, thats HUGE. As we saw with the Angels, when a team scores first there record is usually way better than playing from behind. Clutch is getting a big hit, whether it comes in the first or the 9th, its still clutch.

58. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    well of course you agree with someone taking your side… but hes right a first inning rbi can be importand but that doesnt mean its clutch…clutch is when the games on the line and yoou have a chance to change the outcome…that happens late in the game. games arnt on the line in the first inning

59. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Howard, K.

60. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    One of the role players stepping up for the first time in a while!

61. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    FELIZ!!!

62. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    nepa that make no sense… so your saying every rbi in a somewhat close game is clutch. so in a 6-5 games there are 6 clutch hits if no one has more then 1 rbi at a time? so feliz it was clutch… it was nice, it wasnt huge or clutch but important

63. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    They don’t appear to be on the line in the first inning. But sometimes first inning runs deflate the other team and they can never recover. Or sometimes first inning runs accumulate and you quickly have a blowout on your hands (see last game of Mets’ season ‘07). I see your points definitely, but I think baseball players feel pressure any time they have a chance to give their team a big boost.

64. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    For the record, Howard is hitting .160 with 6 rbis in the first inning of games.

65. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    What if oyu’re down 2-0 in the 3rd inning and someone hits a single with runners on 2nd and 3rd to tie it up. Is that clutch? Chris M, clutch is all a matter of opinion.

66. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

    We just have two different definitions of clutch obviously. Mine is less intense I guess, or you can say I’m using it too liberally maybe. The fact remains though, Howard has NOT been clutch, whatever defintion your using.

67. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Wow, a baseball team doing “the little things” tonight.

68. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    i guess but if thats clutch then your basically saying every hit is clutch…i guess if a guy starts a rally then thats clutch.. so many areas good be clutc in your scenarios…so in clutch situation tonite howard is 0-2 with two k’s

69. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    phil you still agree with nepa…howard is not slutch!

70. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    I think people think I’m trying to say Howard has been clutch all season because I’m not saying that at all. I am trying to state Howard has been clutch the past 2 weeks, and if you want to argue that then I’m going to 100% disagree.

71. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    This is much more comforting to watch. I think Vic should run here.

72. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    I guess what I’m trying to say is theres more than one level of clutch. Game 7/Super Bowl can’t even be compared to anything done in this game right now.

73. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    I think what it comes down to is, without another top of the rotation starter, this is a team that needs to win primarily with offense, and won’t be able to do so consistently when the best all around player/hitter is struggling.

74. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    well howard has been so clutch lately that weve lost our last 4 series and 6 straight

75. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Lol I’m done with the clutch convo now though, because this game looks very promising right now.

76. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    utley is the best all aroundplayer on this team but howard could be an arguable 2nd

77. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    now lets talk some baseball now…how out the one thing that has been plagueing this team lately is there situational hitting and tonite there doing it the right way with sac flies and some key hits

78. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    Howard strikes out too much and is too poor of a defensive player to be a great “all around” player. He’s a good power hitter. Based on the season performances so far I might have to choose Werth 2nd.

79. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    love the situational hitting so far. thats all i wanted to see tonight, even more than just a huge breakout 20 run game.

80. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    werth has been a big key to the early season success with pat the bat have a huge role in the real early success

81. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Haha it was weird to see a foul pop with the third basemen in a dead sprint for about 40 yards towards the dug out. this foul ground is ridic.

82. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    I think Rollins is 2nd. Maybe I’m biased because Rollins is my favorite player, but he is arguably the best defensive player on the team, he steals bags, he has pop in his bat, He always has a respectable avg, he is Chris M’s definition of clutch(look at Rollins stats 7th inning or later with RISP,) I’d give 3rd to Werth though.

83. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    This can still be a very good team so long as they straighten things out. We still have the best bullpen by ERA right now, the offense has shown potential to be great, role players (esp. Werth and Dobbs) have come up big…as with many teams the Phillies could be one starting pitcher away.

84. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    i ove rollins. it seems like late in games and were down and we need a rally started hes always there. rollins jut missed so much time its tough for me o give him number 2…i put it like this:
    1) utley
    2) pat
    3)werth and rollins

85. Geoff Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    and another bench outfielder, and another bullpen arm, and another starter, and another bench outfielder

86. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Last year I’d give you Rollins hands down (and who wouldn’t since he won the MVP?) but he’s been much less consistent, even from an effort standpoint, this year. Talent wise I think you’re right, but there’s a good chance this is because of his earlier injury.

87. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    I’m starting to think the Phils are a prime candidate for Sabathia…It’s been on ESPN, all over trade rumor blogs, Gillick made mention to it. I think Myers and Victorino are gone though.

88. chris m Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    anybody think another reason werth is batting leadoff is to increase the trade value…they say hes going to be one of the guys that might go off the current roster to make a trade. are they trying to show this guys versatility

89. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Rollins has the most tools on this team, that’s one of the reasons he’s one of the best all around.

90. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    If you give me a #1 starter for Myers and Vic I’ll take that. And a 3 hit game for Chase!

91. Mike W. Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    CYCLE TIME

92. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Oh boy, cycle watch.

93. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    jesus lord Rollins, please stop swining at first pitches. you clearly don’t do it well.

94. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    Wow. Utley is back. And gunning for a cycle now!

95. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    I thought that too Chris M. I’d rather keep Werth than Vic and I’ll tell you why. We know what Vic can do. He’s a super speedy gold glove .280 BA bag stealing guy. Werth has a ridiculously high ceiling and can do anything you need him to. I bet he could even hit for a better average than Victorino if he got to be an everyday player and saw more righties. I really think that guy is the real deal.

96. Phil Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    CHASE UTLEY IS GOING TO HIT FOR THE CYCLE!!!!!!!!! THAT’S A WAY TO SHOW YOU’RE OUT OF A SLUMP!!!!!!!!

97. NEPA Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Is Werth’s health reliable enough?

98. Geoff Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    im not a fan of getting a guy that said he wants to be a free agent no matter what

    he also choked against the red sox in the alcs

99. Mark T Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    Either way though if we wound up with Sabathia I might shit myself. Phils aren’t exactly known for picking up big (expensive) names mid season.

100. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

     werth is the real deal if he got the chance to play everyday. but i think vic has more trade value since everybody sees him so much and hes a little more proven

101. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

     I am watching the game on gameday not live, but where that last pitch was located it looked like it was really inside.

102. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

     definitely must get a 72 hour window if youre making the sabathia trade

103. Phillies Phanatic Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:29 pm

     4 IP no hits? What’s with that?

104. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:29 pm

     i think you have to keep vic. i was in favor of trading him earlier in the
     season.

     but dude, geoff jenkins cant plat at all. taguchi should just retire.

     youve got three guys and nothing behind them in the outfield. tj bohn is better than taguchi. maybe some other call up can replace jenkins.

     outfield is really thin in my opinion.

105. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:29 pm

     werth is just as injury prone as vic so their the same in reliablitly i think… i dont think sabathia is worth it. our best prosepects for someone we cant resign…better options i think

106. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

     If we were to trade Vic and then Werth goes down to another wrist injury, what happens? we’re down to like one legit major league outfielder. jenkins and taguchi dont fit that category.

107. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

     It’s true Geoff, but what are you going to do trade Werth? One of them is going. It’s unfourtunate but that’s just the way it is.

108. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

     the indians said they wont give that window to try to sign him

109. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

     no hitter gone. ground rule double. kendrick still needs to develop a bit more to be able to get a no no or get really close to one. must get out of this inning with no runs though.

110. Mark T Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

     I feel like Burrell should’ve cought up with that. Sure didn’t seem like he was running full speed.

111. Mike W. Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

     COME ON PAT MORE HUSTLE FOR A NO HITTER JESUS CHRIST

112. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

     Aw, there goes Kendrick’s no hitter phillie phanatic jinxed him.

113. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

     seriously, just DFA jenkins, pay him to go away. you wont get anything of value for him.

114. Tim Malcolm Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

     Damn. Let’s not have the “if Burrell was DH’ing tonight Kendrick could have a no-hitter” talk. Seriously. Not worth it.

115. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:33 pm

     burell is a better defender then any1 on the bench…he mite be slow but he catches eveything that is anywhere close to him with an above average arm

116. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

     This season…he’s dropped so many routine fly balls in his career.

117. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

     If anybody was getting any ideas of a no hitter all I can say is, baby steps. Let’s maybe get a few more scoreless innings or not a complete meltdown. And maybe even a win.

118. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

     nice. get away unscathed through some pressure

119. CZ Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:35 pm

     ‘Astros pitcher Shawn Chacon was suspended indefinitely by the team Wednesday for insubordination after reportedly grabbing general manager Ed Wade by the neck and throwing him to the ground.’

     Could this be the reason the Phils have started playing better??

120. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:35 pm

     I wasn’t really expecting a no hitter NEPA, but how awesome would it be to see one out of Kendrick?

121. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:36 pm

     haha that would rule CZ. Man, imagine Kendrick pitched a no no and Utley hit for the cycle all in the same game? lol Well, hopefully 1 of them still happens.

122. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

     for kendrick, its encouraging to see improvement and see a guy figure it out more and more over his young career. he struggles sometimes. but he really has been fairly solid this season for them. thats why i wouldnt trade him. you just dont trade away good young pitching.

     honestly, that would be RETARDED for a team thats been starved for yuoung pitching for ages

123. Mark T Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:37 pm

     Howard made contact

124. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

     Feliz is on pace to have 75 RBIs. That’s not bad for a 7th hole hitter.

125. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

     3 runs! This team is bustin’ out of the slump in a big way!

126. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

     phil what do you think about howard at least attempting to drop one down there…no men on and no out… i like the idea of men on insteading of tring for a homerun that is pretty unlikely.thoughtS?

127. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

     yeah.

     who thinks jenkins will be on this team next year?

128. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

     I know, and a lot of it has been situational small ball. I like to see that. They need to stop relying on the long ball.

129. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

     i know taguchi wont be on the team by playoff time, thats for sure. no chance in hell. you need more than that in the playoffs

130. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

     Is it me, or does anyone else not give a turd if Utley hits for the cycle? I just want to win.

131. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

     great teams can single a team to death

132. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

     I know what your saying Phil, I was gonna mention the no no bid before but I didn’t want to jinx it, so clearly I was hoping. But I was just saying it wasn’t realistically gonna happen, but the Phils are still winning so who really cares.

133. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

     He should def. attempt a bunt down the 3B line sometimes to keep them modest. I’ve been saying that since day 1 when they said he was a pull hitter and did the shift on him.

134. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

     Danny, cycle would just be icing on the cake.

135. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

     Jenkins the worst pickup by Gillick? Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Any of these A’s outfielders would do just a good job for 1/15 of the salary.

136. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

     I want to see Utley come out of his slump just as much as I want to see them win, so a cycle would be incredible. Part of the reason this team is losing is because of Utley’s horrible slump.

137. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:43 pm

     beautiful. if vic was to get traded, i think i would take it pretty rough. seeing him ram into a catcher at homeplate in a different uniform would be a tough sight to see.

138. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:44 pm

     How did Vic score from 1st on a single?!

139. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:44 pm

     I would trade anyone but the obvious folks for CC.

140. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

     Bloop single that the CF dove for and couldnt come up with. It didnt get past but he couldnt get it in in time. Oh, and inhuman Victorino speed.

141. Mark T Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

     The fielder wound up on his ass trying to make a diving play.

142. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

     id say eaton was our worst signing…respectable yeaar this year but terrible last year and not worth what he getting paid. 8 mil should be spent on a number 2 not a 4 or 5

143. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

     could be. but he DID trade for an injured guy who couldnt make it through one rotation cycle. thats pretty bad. eaton was bad not but the worst. so taguchi doesnt count because it was cheap. they actually gave jenkins a bit of coin.

     its arguable

     worst gillick move?

     a – eaton
     b – jenkins
     c – barajas
     d – garcia
     e – taguchi

     thoughts anyone?

144. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

     agreed. when you pay a pitcher that much hes got to at least be a number 3

145. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

     Good call chris… The Eaton and Jenkins signings are neck and neck in the Gillick shit signings dept!

146. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

     CC is #5 on my list for pitchers they should acquire for several reasons. #1 he’s in a contract year. #2 he’s a lefty our 2 best pitchers right now are lefties and it wouldn’t be good to be overstacked with them. #3 He has A-Rod syndrome. #4 the Red Sox crush him(who would be most likely our WS match up if we made it.)

147. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:47 pm

     d) we would ahave some serious trade peices right now if it wasnt for that… DON M will be pissed if he sees this lol

148. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

     I’d give the Garcia trade his #1 mistake. At least Eaton won 10 games for us last year and has been pitching okay this year. What did Garcia do besides destroy our farm and get injured?

149. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

     Dude, the A’s totally suck and we shoulda swept them.

150. Mark T Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

     I’d be more concerned with winning the division and winning a playoff series than predicting who our World Series opponent would be at the moment. And most players do very well in contract years…

151. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

     The Sox crush CC?? Imagine what’d they’d do to Myers! 37 runs in the first inning of game 2!

152. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

     True Mark T, but some players just can’t play well in the post season.

153. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

     Yea, I was gonna say, I don’t care how he does against the Red Sox or any AL team. If we got got him and ended up in the WS, I think he’d have earned his keep.

154. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

     Wow, so Kendrick is at 6 scoreless innings with 79 pitches. Think we have a CG shut out on our hands? Thoughts anyone?

155. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

     I hope we don’t score any more today. This is fine. We don’t need 15 runs fellas.

156. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:50 pm

     sabathia seems like a trap to me…i dunno.

     its too enticing.

157. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

     i would take CC is they gave us that 72 hr window to try to sign him… but is it worth spening that much on one pitcher…i think gra teams our great teams bc of those little signings not the A rod type guy who takes up so much payroll

158. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:51 pm

     If you noticed that’s why it was my 4th and least most concern.

159. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

     Danny another run or 2 won’t hurt. It just shows there is consistency. I’d like to see Bruntlett and Werth get a hit.

160. danny Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

     Coste 2 RBIs? What’s that? Ruiz is on suicide watch?

161. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

     Yea, I agree with all your other points though. And I guess the Red sox thing could eventually be a concern.

162. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

     roll players make great teams… when you have a guy at 22 mil a year you dont have money for roll players

163. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

     yeah. i know they wont resign him so it seems like a waste of the farm system that we dont have anyway. i want some of those top propsects to contribute next year and beyond.

     cc would require like all your untouchables. i think if they trade away most or all the untouchable prospects theyll REALLY suck in a few years.

164. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

     Oh, I also wouldn’t mind more runs if it is Utley hitting for the cycle.

165. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

     chase again!

166. Mark T Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

     I’ll take the noncycle 4 hit game.

167. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

     whats this single bullshit from utley?

168. Rob Cowie Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

     Love that chatter for a wednesday night at midnight. Kendrick 1 hitter, wtf?

169. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:55 pm

     Utley 4-4!!! Wow!!! I think it’s safe to say HE’S BACK!

170. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

     jimmys mom is so pissed at him!

171. chris m Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

     was that another first pitch!?!?!?

172. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:56 pm

     There we go again 1st pitch Rollins. This is why you are not the lead off man Jimmy!

173. Geoff Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:58 pm

     im gonna be tired tomorrow at work. but i dont care because i was away at a conference for 3 days. basically a vacation…clutch

174. Phil Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:59 pm

     Shit, my gameday froze…what did Burrell do?

175. NEPA Says:
     June 25th, 2008 at 11:59 pm

     yea, the first pitch stuff has to stop. His game: 4 AB’s 0-3(4 total pitches) 1-1(6 pitches)

176. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:00 am

     2-2 count, fouled off a bunch of pitches

177. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:00 am

     full count

178. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:01 am

     Rollins has a single.

179. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:01 am

     K

180. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:01 am

     A situational single too. Utley was on 2nd, remember the throw out at the plate?

181. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:01 am

     yea his single is the only at bat with more than 1 or 2 pitches seen

182. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:02 am

     Oh, I get it now. I misunderstood what you were trying to say.

183. danny Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:03 am

     I’m ok with Rollins and his hitting. He has an MVP. He’s mondo clutch.

184. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:03 am

     haha, yea i didnt quite know how to write that

185. philspan Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:03 am

     Jenkins will probably be next years Helms, traded to any team that will pay the minimum salary with the Phillies picking up the rest. I could also see the Phillies doing this next year with Eaton.

186. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:04 am

     i love to see utleys avg on the climb agian…i want him to get MVP and bad… i know its early but i love the guy

187. Tim Malcolm Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:04 am

     Only Howard doesn’t reach first on that. So slow. Haha.

188. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:05 am

     I can bet you Coste, Burrell, Jenkins, and Feliz wouldn’t have reached 1st on that either. haha

189. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:06 am

     GEOFF JENKINS THE DEFENSIVE REPLACEMENT!!!

190. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:07 am

     jenkins is above avg defensivl….most diving catches this year

191. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:08 am

     True Chris M I just don’t want his bat in the lineup.

192. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:08 am

     if we hold on tonite do we keep the same lineup tomorrow

193. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:08 am

     i agree. i actually think they can get a mediocre prospect for eaton in the offseason. id do it too. the free agent pitching out there will be better than him anyway. even the middle of the road free agents.

     jenkins is defintiely next years helms. ill be nerviously checking in here during spring training every 5 minutes hoping they traded jenkins for future considerations or cash

194. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:09 am

     I think so. This is a good line up imo.

195. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:09 am

     7 scoreless for kyle!

196. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:10 am

     So Kendrick has gone 7 scoreless innings with 91 pitches. I say leave him in another inning. Thoughts?

197. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:11 am

     I still like Utley 3rd if he’s finally coming out of this funk as it appears. You know, more RBI opportunities and still guaranteed to bat in the 1st.

198. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:11 am

     Utley 3rd Dobbs 2nd actually.

199. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:11 am

     i like the lineup…maybe consider switching utley and rollins.. or vic to number 2 and rollins to 6 or vic 1 and werth 2 and rollins 6

200. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:12 am

     Last couple balls were hit hard. I’d pull him, keep his confidence after a great outing, and turn it over to our MLB leading bullpen. We need this win too badly to risk a big inning.

201. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:12 am

     Feliz is having a productive night!

202. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:13 am

     i wouldnt be surprised to see him pull him since he has been taking a lot of heat with keping pitchers in too long and its cost us

203. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:13 am

     Yeah Mark T, that’s very true, but his confidence could be really great with a CG shut out. We all know Manuel doesn’t like to take his starters out. Let’s see what he does.

204. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:14 am

     vic CANNOT be high in the lineup until he learns to be a patient hitter.

     you cant have too many first pitch swingers up there.

     thats why they struggled against good pitching in the first place. thats why they lost 5 games in a row

205. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:14 am

     There we go, let’s see if Coste can come through with another situational hit.

206. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:15 am

     6 in a row

207. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:15 am

     Well, Vic is more patient than Rollins imo. They’re facing Harden tomorrow. I’d say go Dobbs in the 2 hole.

208. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:17 am

     Coste, the speed demon!

209. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:17 am

     That was an amazing(ly weird) play.

210. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:17 am

     yeah definitely. i like vic later in the lineup. get some speed back there. reignite rallies maybe. YES! how the heck did coste get on base with that dribbler!

211. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:19 am

     3 RBI’s for Coste tonight…more situational hitting for Coste. Ruiz is such garbage. He should learn how to hit in key situations just as well as he learns how to call a game. That’s all he is good for. The pitchers better learn to work better with Coste.

212. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:19 am

     As a side note, it seems to me like the rest of the division which has been praised for gaining momentum has been playing much weaker competition than the Phillies of late.

213. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:22 am

     phil i think your watching on gameday but coste hit wasnt situational…it was a groundball to the pitcher and he made a mental error

214. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:23 am

     How awesome would it be if Utley’s cycle was a grand slam?

215. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:23 am

     Ah, yeah…I am watching on game day. I thought Feliz scored. I misread because game day is all fucked up.

216. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:23 am

     I would’ve liked to have seen them get a run out of that bases loaded no out situation since that’s where they’ve been struggling lately. Then again, as long as we wind up with more runs than the opponent I’m pretty happy.

217. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:24 am

     Aw, it’s okay Chase…4-5 and almost hitting for the cycle is still a good game.

218. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:26 am

     i would have somone ready to go

219. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:26 am

     3 straight batters making good contact will get the bullpen up.

220. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:27 am

     They better get the pen up.

221. chris m Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:28 am

     alirght men, im signing off for the nite its been fun talking it up with some philie fans while watching a phillies game….lifes great

222. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:28 am

     Does anyone else hear a ton of like whistles and buzzers in the background noise of this game? Maybe I’m going nuts but it sounds like it was whistle/buzzer giveaway night there.

223. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:28 am

     Yup, goodnight chris M. Hopefully you don’t wake up to a loss tomorrow morning.

224. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:28 am

     Jesus, I think i seriously just heard a tuba.

225. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:29 am

     People on the left coast like noise makers. It’s like luxury cheering or something.

226. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:31 am

     Uh oh…Kendrick needs to come out.

227. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:31 am

     Coaching visit to mound looks like his game is over. Thank you Kyle Kendrick for stopping or losing streak.

228. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:31 am

     This is weird pitcher conference music…”Zorba the Greek”.

229. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:32 am

     NO!!! Why did you leave him in you tard?

230. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:33 am

     K! nice

231. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:33 am

     Thats officially his longest game. And theyre leaving him in, risky.

232. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:34 am

     Yeah Kendrick! My favorite thing about him as a pitcher is his poise.

233. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:36 am

     YES! HUGE outing. 8 scoreless!

234. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:36 am

     Yes! what a start from Kendrick. Far from Kendrickian other than the fact it was stragith quality

235. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:36 am

     Kendrick is the man!!! Think they should let him go for 9?

236. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:36 am

     Nice job Kendrick. He should be the player of the game assuming the Phils win since the offense still isn’t doing great. As of late, this type of shutout effort is what the team has needed to win.

237. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:37 am

     Kendrick deserves Richie Asburn award, even more so than Utley who went 4-5.

238. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:37 am

     And signs of Utley turning the corner on this slump tonight are of course excellent.

239. Tim Malcolm Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:37 am

     Nah, eight and out. Career high in pitches. Looked a bit off in the eighth. Got through it. Bring in Gordon to get in some work and let’s polish this one off.

240. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:38 am

     haha phil, no way. we cant push our luck

241. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:39 am

     Lidge hasn’t pitched in 4 days, and I wouldn’t mind seeing him in there just because stopping this streak would be so big right now.

242. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:39 am

     I really wish I could have watched this game on TV tonight. Seems like one of the most exciting games of the season. I’ve missed a lot of exciting games from being at my gfs. Hamels 1st CG shut out against the Braves, 20 run game against the Cards, 10 run game against the Jays, and now this one…stupid gf hating on Comcast.

243. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:40 am

     Who’s up in the pen? Gameday should say things like that.

244. Geoff Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:40 am

     it looks like they are taking him out now. great job by kendrick. pitching wins. looks like theyll get the win here if all goes well. they needed that pitching performance very desperately. i hope the phils can get to harden tomorrow.

245. NEPA Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:41 am

     im outta here boys, gonna watch the rest of this one from bed. haha if they find a way to lose this one you might never see me here again. have a good one

246. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:41 am

     My gf lives in Rochester, NY, so I feel your pain. I missed two weeks worth of games last season when the Phils were starting to make a push. I wound up springing the cash for MLBTv then.

247. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:44 am

     My gf lives in West Philly, so there’s no excuse. She works for a company that lobbies down in DC to stop major corporations from having monopolies like Comcast and Clear Channel and fight for low power FM. Comcast is the devil to her, and it upsets me because I can’t watch the Phillies because of her activism. I’m liberal myself, but I love the Phillies too much and have to put aside my views and get comcast so I can watch them. She’s moving this weekend anyway with my other liberal friend who is a huge Phillies fan and believes the same thing as me, so after this weekend I can watch the Phillies when I’m at her place.

248. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:46 am

     If you’re in an area that can get Verizon FiOS they carry CSN.

249. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:47 am

     Oh, please…you really think she’s okay with Verizon? haha

250. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:48 am

     Why are they using Romero? He pitched last night. Save his arm for when we need it.

251. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:50 am

     No HR for Cust tonight.

252. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:54 am

     I don’t like this very much…

253. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:55 am

     What is a defensive indifference? An error? Stupid game day.

254. Phil Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:55 am

     YES WE WON!!! NICE GAME KENDRICK AND OFFENSE!!!

255. Mark T Says:
     June 26th, 2008 at 12:57 am

     Defensive indifference counts as a stolen base but is not charged against the pitcher or catcher. Thank g-d that’s over with, and now I can get a good nights sleep.

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