Manuel: Myers Had Poor Selection
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Mon, June 16, 2008 02:12 PM
Now time for the Brett Myers Excuse of the Week!
(Which used to be the Adam Eaton Excuse of the Week.)
Myers said after his six-inning , six-run performance against the Cardinals, that he was feeling good, but:
“But I’m still trying to get the ball down. I worked on it in the bullpen the last couple times. It’s something that is definitely fixable, but I have to go out there and do it on the mound. It doesn’t count when you do it in the bullpen.”
It doesn’t count when you have a raised mound and you’re throwing 60′6″ toward an imaginary strike zone? But it does count when you have a raised mound and you’re throwing 60′6″ toward an imaginary strike zone and it’s a game. I see. Makes a lot of sense.
Memo to Myers: GET THE BALL DOWN.
Also, THROW OTHER PITCHES. Courtesy Charlie Manuel:
“The ball Ludwick hit for a double out there, a big hit early in the game, it looked to me that he threw him about, what, five, six fastballs in a row. He just kept going at him with fastball, fastball, fastball. Finally, the guy timed one down. [Myers] makes pitches. His selection is not real good. Today, he [made] mistakes.”
Why is his selection poor? Does he not have faith in his curve or changeup? Is it Chris Coste, his personal catcher? Or does he just not have it in his breaking pitches?
When you throw fastball upon fastball it doesn’t matter if it’s up, down, sideways or slantways. Guys will get to it. They’ll time it (especially if it’s consistently coming in at 93 mph) and hammer it. They hammered it all over the place yesterday.
When Myers is at his best he uses that curve effectively. He has to use the curve. Even if it’s not 100 percent on point, he has to use the curve. I’d like to know what Coste has to say about all this.
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June 16th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
the curve IS his out pitch without his curve working hes garbage. like he is now.
June 16th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
well at the beguinning of the year his curveball was working but he was throwing it too much and still got shelled. ive lost all hope with him…i hope he still has some trade value but i seriously doubt it
June 16th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
hes all screwed up in the head. i dont think he has the mental toughness to be a starting pitcher in major league baseball. hes a reliever.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
The Mariners fired Bill Bavasi today. Maybe, just maybe, this means they will be moving bedard.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
I heard Bedard is a REAL D!CKHEAD……. the entire team hates him…he hates the media and never does interviews when he gets shelled… they don’t need a guy like that in this clubhouse.
Myers seriously has ZERO value as a starting pitcher. They need to make the move to get him in the bullpen and then send him packing.. $8.5 million for a guy with a 3-8 record and 5.50+ ERA… He’s a punk, and they should get rid of him as soon as possible. I’d rather see HAPP or one of the young guys come up and get roughed-up a few times then see Myers get knocked around every 5 days. he sucks… cocky as can be…and no longer talented enough to back it up…
June 16th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Yeah, seeing one of these youngsters get knocked around wouldn’t be too painful considering we expect it.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Yeah hes gotta go. Itll take a whole offseason to turn him back into a closer. Maybe he can help in the Pen and boost value by the deadline otherwise we might be stuck with him in the pen. thatassumes they get another starter in a deal. They have to, I cant imagine them standing still. thatd be a disgrace.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Young pitchers also tend to have a lot of success when they 1st come up. Look at KEndrick last year. That guy doesn’t have amazing stuff, he’s just decent, but noone has a book on the young pitchers yet. Carrassco actually doesn have good stuff and there is no book on him. They should really bring him up. Give him the shot. It’s better than Myers.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I agree. is he ready though? no better way to find out i suppose.
the mariners manager said bedard is a 100 pitch pitcher and no matter what after 100 pitches hes done.
i dont like that. tahts a little scary. im thinking maybe derek lowe is a better option.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
I think anyone is a better option than Brett Myers. You or I could probably get up there on that mound and do a better job than Myers.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Well I would either throw sinkers and changeups or bean people intentionally and get thrown out. i think i could end up giving up about 4 or 5 runs each time out. not badd…..
June 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
have we won on espn all year.i remember 2 games. the mets game when bruntlett made 3 errors and the braves game we almost came back from 8-0 or something. i think thats was another myers shelling…they jinx us
June 16th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
There’s something kind of F’d up, when you have more faith in Eaton then you do Myers.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I have more faith in Freddy Garcia than Myers.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Rosco…how is that fucked up? Eaton has been very consistent this year.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
hahahaha good one Lewisauce.
June 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
What we need is Charlie Manuel to bitch slap Myers just like he did his wife. Too bad we don’t have Gio Gonzalez, we gave him away for Steady Freddy. Why don’t we pick him up lol I figure well get someone totally out of the blue a la Loshe last year. Unless we can somehow get C.C. or Harang, whatever pitcher we get will not be the second playoff we pitcher we may or may not need. We need a couple prayers to beat the Bosox once this year. Everytime we play them it seems like we get swept. Go Phillies and for god sakes Gillick get a pitcher that will help us.
June 16th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Did you even see his [Myer's] last few innings? He started his last three batters off all with first pitch curve balls, all high for ball 1. Early in the year he doesn’t throw enough fastballs, couldn’t get his velocity up. Now, his velocity is up, but he’s not varying enough. He’s not throwing the ball low, which, if you’ve noticed, was the same thing that was plaguing Hamels. Carlos Ruiz is pretty much digging a trench trying to set up low enough for Hamels now. Myers is working very hard to get better, despite popular belief. As much as I love Coste, I’d be very curious to see how Myers pitches with Ruiz behind the plate…even Coste compliments Ruiz on his talent on calling a game. I still think Myers has a chance to turn it around, though he should not be allowed to call his own game.