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19 Responses to “Phils Could Restock Farm With Draft”

1. Phil Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

   I think we need a collegiate level 1B with lots of power considering Howard will probably be gone very soon.

2. Geoff Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

   This is where they need to make big statements. They can be accused of being cheap at the big league level, fine and that can be argued even though i think they are a little cheap at that level.

   but they have been REALLY cheap at the draft/farm system level. they need to upgrade their farm system significantly so that they CAN afford to deal some prospects in a big deadline trade. they really need to hit on some of these guys, desperately. theyve got some guys already 30 and older in the outfield (burrell, jenkins,taguchi), third base (feliz), in the rotation (moyer), in the bullpen (gordon, seanez), and even though resigning him for 4 years is a no brainer, lidge is 30 or 31. coste is like 34 already, lol, and ruiz is someone that alreayd needs to be replaced. so theres a bunch of guys that will almost all likely need to be succeeded in 5 yeras while some will need replaced next year and some will need replaced in 2-3 years.

   some of those guys will be replaced by trade, free agency, or some of the current high-ranked prospects (golson, carrasco, marson, etc) but there will still be some yet unforeseen spots to fil in 3-5 years. the bottom line is that this draft class will need to be either be on this roster (first 2-3 picks) or in AA or AAA and near ready in 5 years or good enough to be included in a package for whichever legit player/pitcher they might need in a trade.

   this is a team thats ready to win a championship right now providing they do what we have already discussed. however, in 3-5 years this is a team that will start to get old and they will be in desperate need of new blood to form around cole hamels, kyle kendrick and some other younger core players/pitchers that i expect to find in this draft, next draft and from our own systme right now. chase utley and jimmy rollins will both be 34 in 5 years. still great, im sure, but older and wiser for sure. that will be the next nucleus that this team will rely on heavily in the future.

   great teams draft well, and i expect this draft and next years draft to be huge drafts and provide for the future of this team.

3. Phil Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

   Rollins and Utley will probably be able to play until they’re 40 assuming they stay healthy. They’re both in good shape and SS and 2B have more longevity than other position’s because of the need to keep themselves in shape. They’ll be around for a while and will retire in Phillies uniforms.

4. Geoff Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

   Oh theyll def be phillies for life. I wouldnt be surprised if both play until age 40 either assuming they are healthy. Chase Utley has the potential to be considered among the greatest of all time if he stays healthy and performs at an elite level for another 10 seasons.

   if theyre still playing at that age then go ahead and trade the prospects taht they are blocking and develop guys for another few years behind them and so on until theyre nearing the end of their playing days.

5. Phil Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

   Utley and Rollins both have said they want to retire in Phillies uniforms. Burrell has too. I guarantee you they’ll both play at top notch level until they’re in their late 30’s. Look at Jeter, that guy still plays well and he’s pushing 40. Omar Vizquel, Miguel Tejada, Craig Biggio. There are plenty of other SS and 2B that play forever and play well. Utley and Rollins won’t be any differently. We’ll have the best middle infielders for many many years to come.

6. Tim Malcolm Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

   Phil: I wouldn’t be surprised if when Howard leaves, Utley slides to first base (or Burrell, if he’s here). Adrian Cardenas is still a hot possibility to play 2B for the Phils in 2010.

7. Lokey Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

   We need a third baseman that can be ready in about 2 or 2 1/2 years

8. Phil Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

   That’s why they said collegiate level 3B.

9. Geoff Says:
   June 4th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

   Yeah they def need a feliz replacement. Hell serve out his two year deal and then be out of here. I agree that third base, outfield, and of course pithcing shoudl be the priority here.

10. Matt Kwasiborski Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Hopefully, our team doctors will be able to obtain sound medical reports on the higher end draft picks. I am getting a little sick and tired of reading about how they took a HS picther who “fell” to them only to see them go down (Drabek) or will go down (Savery) one day.

    We got extremely lucky that Hamels has been a productive MLB picther because he was also an injury-riddled HS picther who “fell” to us.

    The odds of a healthy highly drafted pitcher making the team are long and we keep drafting injured or worn down ones. Pitching is what counts the most as we know.

    We could use some depth at 3B, SS, C. I only say SS because Rollins will not play for another 10 years; so we need to find an adequate replacement if he chooses to leave or not.

    Those who take athletes at their word (Burrell, Rollins, Utley, et al) should know better by now.

11. Phil Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    I think Rollins will play another 10 yeas. The guy is in incredible shape.

12. Don M Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Derek Jeter is 34 years old…. Utley is 29 already…. I think he will definitely shift to 1b at some point in his career because you can play that position forever unlike a middle infielder… which is why Omar Vizquel is amazing… he has like 49 Gold Gloves (actually 11…but that is a insane)

13. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Matt: I think we’re good with catcher, considering Lou Marson is being slated as an everyday catcher and is 22. We do also have Jason Jaramillo, who lacks Marson’s offensive punch but is suitable in a backup role. Ruiz, while not great, could be a cheap backup.

14. Geoff Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    3rd base, corner outfielder, left handed pitcher, right handed pitcher, first base are the top things id focus on.

15. Brian G. Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    What’s the best way to find out if they’re gonna play the game tonight?

16. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    I believe they can call a game at the earliest 1.5 hours before, so they could now. But we know nothing yet. I say listen to WIP or either keep it here or check the Phils site.

17. Andy Reid Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    The phillies should trade their first round pick then take a 2B with their 2nd round pick. The rest of the draft should consist of projects from Division III schools who never played against top competition. Lastly, make sure you grab at least 4 defensive tackles. Oh, and Billy King told me to tell you to grab a 20 year old swingman with no experience

18. VA Steve Says:
    June 5th, 2008 at 7:21 am

    My vote, take the best overall athlete available at the point of selection. Unlike other sports, it is virtually impossible to tell how a selection will pan out. Start drafting by need, and I’m afraid you set yourself up for failure. If the best selections available for the Phils happen to all be pitchers at their respective slots, take ‘em.

19. Ron Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 12:11 am

    First off, you cant go off of what is going on in AAA; AAA is the island of unwanted toys and I think is actually a public works program started by gov. Rendell. You really want to look at AA and down for the prospects. Lou Marson will be the future at catcher, Jason Donald’s future is at 3B ( if he can play SS, then he can play 3rd), greg golson should be up next here at the latest and will help bring back the speed lost with the trading of bourn. carrasco, bastardo, and outman are nice, young pitchers who will come in and create parity in the staff. Of course, if things get flimsy with Howard, we could trade him, move Utley to 1st and bring up Adrian Cardenas. cardenas has hit over .300 at every level he’s played at and may be the diet pepsi version of rod carew. The phillies have produced Howard, Utley, Rollins, Burrell, hamels, happ, eaton, myers, madsen, and kendrick, so i have no doubt that the above mentioned players in the minors. I remember hearing Paul Owens once say that if you produce two good major leaguers from every draft, then that draft is a success. lets other teams refuse to take our talent, its their loss. Instead I will feel comfortable that when a young guy is called up midseason, he will suceed, just like howard, kendrick, and happ have. Adieu my friends, till we meet again

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