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Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:15:36 +0000

[...] top starter available now that Sabathia’s off the market.Â Whatever the case, J.A. Happ was pretty solid in his debut on Friday and deserves his spot in the rotation for the time [...]

By: NJ

NJ — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:49:36 +0000

I’d agree wholy with you about Brett, I think the whole idea of him of an elite closer is one he’s created trying to become the next John Smoltz. I worry if we acquire that elusive number two we will overpay enough for it to hurt and will block Brett’s route to the top of the rotation in his mind.

Arroyo’s been a solid top of the rotation guy with the Reds since being traded from the Sox untill this years blip which is whats kept his value up and the value in Washburn is his experience which is coverted at this time of year more than anything and Eaton doesn’t have either of those on his cv.

Eaton’s struggling to solidify his spot at the back of our rotation, he carries very little clout as a veteran presence in and when trade options may be open in the off-season they’ll be much better options available for potential suitors. I hate to be pesimistic but we’d have to be very very lucky to trade Eaton in a deal that benefits us.

By: Phil

Phil — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:20:33 +0000

Eaton does have trade value. If Arroyo and Wasbern have trade value than Eaton does of course. The starting pitching market is ridiculously thin.

By: Phil

Phil — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:18:38 +0000

I have a lot of confidence that Myers will get back to form now that he’s in the minors. No, Myers is not a bullpen pitcher. he does not have the stuff to be a bullpen closer. He’s a starter. He needs psychological help, and if he can get that then he can be a really good starter. if he can’t get it done then see if he has trade value as a closer and get him out of Philly. Myers can be our #2 starter if he has it together. Right now we’re saying trade for a #2 because we don’t have a #2 we have a head case.

By: NJ

NJ — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:04:39 +0000

The pen needs to get some youth in there and that’s the only way of finding some longer-term stability in personnel, it’s very important we get Matheison into then pen at the very least. Extending Durbin could a great move but his extended success is no guarantee.

It would take more than giving Eaton away to be rid of him, as with Helms we’d have to eat most of his final years salary which is a possible scenario if he looses the spot in the rotation and isn’t slated for long-relief. As for Moyer he’s expressed his intention to pitch past next year at the very least and it’s hard to see how that’ll be with anyone other than the Phils, that makes it all the more important to find that number 3 guy (assuming the number 2 can be Myers) that will allow us to round out the rotation with Moyer. It’s going to be tough to see Happ staying around in Philly, by the time a permenant back-end spot opens up the piching prospects at high A through AA are going to be prefered.

By: fred

fred — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:22:49 +0000

The only way they could get rid of Eatons salary is by giving him away. There’s really no point doing that, for all we know Happ could be bombed in his next couple of starts. I’d still make a move for a starter and move Myers to the pen, he’s clearly more comfortable there and our ‘pen is on the verge of collapse in my opinion. Gordon sucks, Romero could become the pitcher he was in ‘05-’06 and suck, and Seanez always has sucked. Just because they’ve performed well so far dosn’t mean the ‘pen can’t be improved further.

By: Don M

Don M — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:19:05 +0000

Bastardo* isn’t close to being ready to pitch in the bigs… and correct my if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it Geoff and Phil (or maybe “phil”) that have been saying how bad we need a #2.

If you have Hamels, Kendrick, Happ, Carrasco, and Myers… you’re going to get smoked..

IF the phillies could get something in return for Eaton (trust me, they can’t) Im sure they would make that move in a heartbeat.. But he is pitching well this year (not great enough to have trade value at $8.5 Million per year though) and you don’t need to get rid of him

By: Phil

Phil — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:05:11 +0000

I agree with Geoff to not get rid of young pitchers. We’ll have a young pitching staff next year. Hamels, Kendrick, Happ, Carrasco, and Myers(if he gets his act together). I agree with trading Eaton. If Happ has it together he will be the odd man out. I’d rather them trade Eaton then a young pitcher who has potential. Not to mention we have Bastrada(sp) too.