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103 Responses to “Gamenight: Phillies (56-49) At Nationals (38-67)”

1. Jamie Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

   Burrell goes deep again tonight. Phils win 10-6

2. NEPA Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

   Great beer choice tonight. I’m pretty excited for this game tonight, but I can’t stand watching Brett Myers pitch. Maybe tonight he’ll be dominant just so he can afford himself 3 more terrible starts in the future. My wish, Myers gets pounded and is taken out of the game by the 2nd or 3rd inning and is sent to the bullpen for the rest of the season. Happ joins the rotation following tonights game – but the Phils offense still explodes to win the game like 15-13. We rid our rotation of Myers and still get the victory – I can at least wish.

3. Gavin Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

   Tex traded to Halos. Good that he’s out of the NL, bad because if we ever were to make the WS (please forgive me baseball Gods for even saying that) then the Angels are going be a sack o hell.

4. Kenny Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

   10-3 Phillies….Burrell, Howard, Jimmy lead the hit parade!!!! And Myers pitches well enough to piss us off for another week

5. Griffin Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

   Muts start off the game with 3 straight doubles off of Olsen. I wonder if he’ll blame his teammates for those.
   Luckily dumb Reyes tried to stretch his into a triple, so it’s only 1-0 so far

6. CZ Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

   Myers is throwin darts so far. Straight GAS as Mark Grace would say.

7. CT Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

   wow, it feels like it’s been forever since we’ve seen Utley go yard

8. NEPA Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

   What hip injury?

9. Jamie Says:
   July 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

   Nice to see Myers in mid-season form (pun intended) and Utley going yard. Hopefully they’ll both keep it up and we’ll win like 32-0.

10. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    Utley denies it, but Gillick said he’s had a sore hip lately.

11. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    I’m not watching the game on TV – I’m listening to it on the radio – but it sounds like Myers has pretty good control and poise tonight. Anyone?

12. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Myers looks great against the worst hitters in baseball

13. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Seriously, I think my UCF baseball team could out hit the Nats.

14. NEPA Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Yea, he definitely looks better than last time out simply because he’s throwing strikes. But if this was any other team than the Nats they would probably be smoking some of these pitches.

15. Brett Myers Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    This is easier than Double A

16. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Nats or not, Myers seems to be efficient (only 51 pitches through 5 innings) and in control. Let’s hope this is the *new* Myers.

17. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    It is sort of refreshing that Myers is inducing outs rather than trying to blow the batters away with his 72 mph fastball.

18. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    Muts just took the lead 2-1.

19. Joe Durbin Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    It is hard to believe MLB can be almost a whole batter behind Gameday.
    How is anyone else’s?
    Is it just mine.

20. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Joe, are you watching on MLBTV.com, or listening on the radio? Where are you located?

21. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    Muts will blow it with their pen like last night, Id love to see the fish take all three…

22. Joe Durbin Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    I am watching on the internet and live in Phoenix.

23. Overlord Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    When was the last time myers was making hitters (I know its the nationals, but still…) look silly in the 8th.

24. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    here we go…where’s “dim the lights” durbin?

25. NEPA Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    What the hell is wrong with Utley’s defense this year? He’s shaky over there.

26. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    Damnit chase

27. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    He’s a pretty boy now. Its a shame but he is…

28. Joe Durbin Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    I hate to say this, but our stix, apparantly thought 2 was enough.

29. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    my other email address wouldnt post….

30. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    myers was pitching wel tonight too

31. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    If you’re watching on the internet, there’s your answer. They have a slight delay. It’s normal.

32. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    Myers did his job, it would suck to rob him of that momentum…

33. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    though a better team would smoke some of those myers fastballs

34. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Wow. John Lackey has a no hitter through 8 innings against the Red Sox. Only 1 walk keeps him from a perfect game.

35. Brian Michael Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    That was a nice play by Romero.

36. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Durbin saves the day again!

37. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Geoff I agree, but you gotta start somewhere with Myers, and unfortunely the little league world series doesnt start for a while…

38. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Its a start. But does it prolong the inevitable return to the pen?

39. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    If he pitches like he did tonight, yes.

40. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Yeah you might be right, they might have already made that decsion though by bringing Happ up. Hell, if ends up a win, I ll take it.

41. NEPA Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Big save here.

42. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Im on gameday whos in? Lights out?

43. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    yeah

44. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Yup, Lidge is on. 0-2 count, 1 down, bases clear

45. NEPA Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Yea, Lidge. 1 out, none on. Full count to Kearns.

46. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    fuck gameday, Im like a week behind…

47. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    2 down

48. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    is Myers still pitching? Then yeah, you are. 0-2 count, 2 outs

49. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Muts just got a 2 run HR. THey are up 4-1 (Delgado)

50. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Yeah he just closed out the game to give the Phils the NL East…

51. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Phils win!

52. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Gary, unless the Marlins pull their head out of their ass, we’re still going to be 1/2 game back.

53. CT Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    i hate to say it, but i think Myers deserves the Ashburn award tonight!

54. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Sorry Jamie, I was making a horrible reference to how far I was behind with gameday and was making fun of the fact that Myers closed out the Nats in 07 to win the east…

55. Fred Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Foxsports.com is reporting the Phillies have traded Pat Burrell to the BoSox for Manny Ramirez straight up. Burrell and Ramirez have both waived their no-trade clauses and the Phillies have agreed to not pickup Manny’s club option for 2009 thereby allowing him to become a free agent after this season. There you go folks…our blockbuster deal has come to fruition.

56. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Bullshit. thats a fucking retarded trade. that doesnt make any sense. many isnt any better than burrell is THIS YEAR

57. NC Jason Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Great pitching by Myers tonight. Now the real question – trade or keep?

58. CT Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    Fred, i call BS on that… i haven’t seen any sites confirm it yet

59. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Fred, that’s funny because it’s not on their site as of right now. Do you have a “Friend” in the front office like the O’s guy?

60. Gary B Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Fred is rack addict reporting this from his momma’s double wide trailer…

61. Jamie Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Gary, I get it now. Sorry – I didn’t get the pun the first time. Oh and Fred, if you’re going to make shit up, at least go with something that makes sense.

62. GoodOneFred Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    A Phillies official told ESPN.com Tuesday night persistent reports that the Phillies are pursuing Manny Ramirez are “false” and said the Phillies have “nothing doing” with the Red Sox involving Ramirez or any other player.

63. Fred Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    Makes perfect sense. Both players will be gone at year’s end. Burrell gets to the AL where he can play some field and DH. Manny gets reunited with his good buddy Charlie. Both have basically the same stats this year. This would serve the purpose of shaking up the team. As a side point, a motivated Manny is much more dangerous than a Burrell.

64. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    not this year fred.. pointless trade look at stats

65. ryan Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    wow. looks like the real brett myers finally showed up to pitch tonight. very encouraging. if he pitches like that then the phillies may finally have the duel aces that they were hoping for. we’ll see if he can build off this start.

66. Tim Malcolm Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    No Manny trade. Not even close.

    Also, good job by Myers tonight.

67. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    That trade makes sense, but it’s not going to happen

68. christopher Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    real nice win. the nationals are always a pain for us for whatever reason, if we can two more wins like that i’ll be ecstatic.

69. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

    This trade’s going down… Manny’s gonna put this team on his shoulders.

70. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    what the hell is wrong with you guys? youre not gaining anything tangible by getting manny. do you even read stats or pay attention? he has a good average, everything else is the same or WORSE than burrell AND ibanez AND bay. POINTLESS FUCKING TRADE

71. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    if they did get manny theyd finis3rd or 4th in the division guaranteed

72. Fred Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Manny and Burrell have basically the same stats and Manny has had an attitude all year while Burrell is in a contract year. A motivated Manny is way better than a motivated Burrell any day of the week. Not even close. And think what Manny would do in this bandbox of a ballpark.

73. Chase Mutley Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Mets win.

74. Chase Mutley Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    Burrell is a Phillie. Manny is not. I want to drop 20mil on Ben Sheets next year, not an 80 year old Manny Ramierz.. We have plenty of bats.

    I’ve yet to decide which shitty ESPN-phrase is more annoying — referring to pitchers’ parks as “bandboxes” or the phrase “going yard.”

75. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    going yard is pretty lame

76. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Baseball Tonight is just lame

77. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    FROM MLBTR

    7:25
    [Comment From HankDaTank]
    was this true?…Rumor has it Roy Halladay is not happy currently in Toronto, and Howard Eskin from 610 WIP stated that the Phillies inquired immediately to find that the price was atleast 3 top prospects. After backing off for a little bit, the Phillies offered SS Jason Donald, C Lou Marson, P JA Happ, and PTBNL. Toronto thought about the offer, and neglected, but said the offer was very close to what they wanted. He said that they wanted Fabio Castro added to the deal, but the Phillies expect Castro to be in the pen by the end of the year.

    7:25
    News to me. Dont look for Halladay to be traded.

78. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    I miss living in Philly, with Eskin’s BS gossip rumors making my car rides a joy

79. Tim Malcolm Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    I almost feel the need to post that Manny is a stupid move.

    Come on guys. First, the guy flies by his own seat. He’s a loon. He’s not completely a team guy. He’s bad defensively. He doesn’t hustle all the time. All that alone makes him the worst fit possible for Philadelphia.

    Manny’s numbers: 20 HR, 68 RBI, .304 AVG, .400 OBP, .538 SLG
    Burrell’s numbers: 26 HR, 61 RBI, .277 AVG, .400 OBP, .585 SLG

    That’s a lateral move. What does that do? Anything? Add in all that personality crap. Meanwhile, Burrell is one of the team leaders, an all-out good guy from what we see, a friend of practically everyone on the team and the one who desperately wants to be on a winner (judging by his play and attitude late last year).

    Now, seriously, how the hell is Manny better than Burrell? Don’t make me post something.

80. Chase Mutley Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    * hitters parks, excuse me.

81. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    NOONE listens to eskin anymore. mike missanelli is on ESPN radio in the same timeslot, and thats what i and lots of other listen to. missanelli is crushing eskin in ratings

82. Tim Malcolm Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Just to add: I’ve watched both Manny and Pat for a long, long time. At first I wasn’t a fan of Pat’s, but watching him play, giving his effort, seeing his attitude, I’m a HUGE fan of his. Manny? I loathe him. Is that directing my writing about this “trade idea”? Yes, sure. Manny, I will say, is a great player, one of the greatest ever. And he has won. But in no way is he a winner. Pat is a winner.

    I’m done. Yeesh.

83. Fred Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Manny’s gone next year and so is Burrell. 20 mil on Sheets??? It’s quite obvious why you’re blogging and not working for a MLB team.

    Also ‘bandbox’ was a term in use at least 50 years ago. But then again, most here weren’t born in the age of no CATV.

84. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    silva got 11mm per year, oliver perez will get 11mm per year, sheets is worth 18-20mm per year

85. Geoff Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    by those scales

86. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Pineapple Express looks great, nerds

87. Tim Malcolm Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    danny: I agree, and I had to buy MIA’s “Paper Planes” because of it.

88. NEPA Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    My roommate played that constantly last year and I wanted to kill him for it. Then I found myself starting to enjoy it, weird song though.

89. Chase Mutley Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    Fred, Manny is slated to make 20 mil next year which is where that number came from. I wasn’t drawing up a contract. My point is that I would rather spend that kind of money on an ace and not a bat.

    I’m 35 years old. I’ve been following baseball since I was 10 years old. In 25 years, I have NEVER heard more people refer to smaller fields as a “bandbox” as I have in the past few years. Sure, you can Google and find that etymology of the word dates to a John Updike piece from 1960 but you’re lying to yourself if you don’t think it recently has become a descriptor of choice for the blog / fantasy / weekend sports radio host.

90. Griffin Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

    I hooked up with a chick in high school who played the tuba, I got all the “bandbox” I could handle.

91. danny Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    This ManRam thing is polarizing for sure. Goeff and Tim, you make similar, excellent points (in your respective styles).

92. LetsGoMets! Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    comparing Manny and Burrell is laughable. Manny is one of the top 5 right handed hitters of all time and has the most career post season homeruns of anyone all time, not to mention 2 world series rings and a world series MVP. If you guys dont think thats a good trade for your ball club than you havent been watching baseball the last 10 years. Manny was brilliant during last year’s playoffs.

93. Phil Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Manny is always great in the playoffs. He’s incredible, but Burrell is having a better year and is 5 years younger.

94. Chase Mutley Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    LGM, you’re completely taking it out of context. No one says that Manny isn’t one of the best hitters to play the game. We’re saying it’s not an improvement to the team because, this year, right now, it’s a wash and we’re not going to resign him because we need starting pitching.

    Unlike some teams I can think of, our outfielders are actually producing and this isn’t a glaring need for our pennant race.

95. LetsGoMets! Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    assuming both players put up similar numbers the rest of the way and the phillies make the playoffs. Who would you rather have playing left field for game 1? The answer is Manny, and since both players are free agents its almost irrelevant who is younger, both would sign elsewhere.

    but your not making the playoffs so I guess its a moot point. At least the Soul won, even Phillie deserves a championship every quarter century

96. Phil Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    Wow, are you Nostradamus? The Muts are a .5 game up and they already made the playoffs?

97. ryan Says:
    July 29th, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    are you guys really serious about acquiring manny ramirez? put down the crackpipe. there is absolutely no reason what so ever to even think for two seconds about picking up manny ramirez. over the past full year pat burrell has been much more productive player than manny. and you can’t play either of them in right field. so why are you even discussing this idea? just because he’s a big name and he might be available? its stupid as hell and this is a waste of time even discussing

98. 1986 Says:
    July 30th, 2008 at 12:28 am

    LetsGoMets! Time to brush up on your math, I was actually 22 years ago.

99. Chase Mutley Says:
    July 30th, 2008 at 12:36 am

    LGM, for argument’s sake Chipper Jones hits the market right now and the Braves want David Wright. Straight trade. Chipper Jones, one of the best hitters in the game period. Future HOF. David Wright isn’t even fit to wax Chipper’s eyebrows. Do you trade for him? Sure, you’ve got an “All-Star” third baseman who is younger, loves playing for your team and in your city, is a well-respected member of your clubhouse, makes less money and your bullpen looks like shit but you know, this is Chipper Jones we’re talking about. Dude hits the baseball like Doc hit the pipe. You know Chipper wouldn’t have stared at strike three like Beltran against the Cardinals. What do you do?

100. Phil Says:
     July 30th, 2008 at 12:42 am

     haha good one Mutley.

101. justin Says:
     July 30th, 2008 at 3:46 am

     mutley… of course we wouldnt trade wright for chipper jones, to even bring that up is just retarded. that is like saying, lets trade chipper jones for chipper jones 10 years ago.

102. fred Says:
     July 30th, 2008 at 5:11 am

     Just to clarify, that was a different fred spreading manny rumors earlier. I don’t want people to start thinking i’m an idiot who spreads rumors that aren’t true, that aint cool. Pat the Bat is better than Manny anyway, and he dosn’t have an attitude problem. Also there’s a chance Burrell re-signs, Manny won’t.

103. Chase Mutley Says:
     July 30th, 2008 at 7:19 am

     >> that is like saying, lets trade chipper jones for chipper jones 10 years ago.

     exactly!

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