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21 Responses to “Werth Delivers In 12th For 6-5 Win”

1. NJ Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 9:22 am

   This is why Vic is so key to the Phils and shouldn’t be platooned, he may not have Rowands bat control but he uses his legs to impact the game and is a vocal guy in the clubhouse who takes responsibility for this team. The Werth/Jenkin’s platoon has worked out better than we could have expected and now’s time to try and get Jenkin’s into the game, like Feliz he will contribute once things come together giving us 4 very capable outfielders on a given night.

   Did anyone else notice Dobbs being walked as a pinch-hitter to get the J-Roll… Think that’s what you call an impact bat off the bench if the other team don’t want to pitch to him.

   Condrey’s giving a real dilemma here, the Phils will acquire another starter so its one of two scenario’s: with Myers in the rotation either Eaton goes to the pen or will be DFA if the team want to stay with Condrey or Myers goes to the pen and Condrey’s going down for sure with Eaton still in the rotation (this assuming Gordon returns soon)…

   ps. Whoever said trying to take a base with a tubby slow footed catcher was a bad idea, Charlie put the D-backs to sleep on that play… Highlight of the day!

2. Derek Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 9:34 am

   First of all that platoon hasn’t “worked out better than we could have expected.” We were expecting Jenkins to contribute, he really hasn’t, it’s only Werth that’s playing well. And second of all, they walked dobbs to get to the pitcher’s spot, not J-Roll and it also set up a double play with only one out and a man at third. It was a very smart move.

3. Derek Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 9:35 am

   Sorry not the pitcher’s spot, it was coste at that time

4. chris m Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 9:40 am

   good call derek… i know howard ha all these rbis and stuff but this is the first stretch this season where hes truly carried thi team… me being one of his biggest criticizers is really giving him a standing ovation… he doesnt need this all star break but also good for taguchi to do atlest ne thing good this year. could we cut him now?

5. Jeff Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 9:46 am

   Is there a video online of that dummy steal? I was listening on the radio and it’s not on the MLB highlights.

6. Gavin Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 9:47 am

   I like the Phils playing small ball like that. They had alot of bunts, plus the double steal, thats the type of thing that falls to Cholly. They can do it, but they’re not going to unless he tells them too.

   Great article about the phils just bringing up Carrasco instead of trading for an arm. i agree with the scout in that, the NL East isnt that strong, so why throw away propsects for an almost nill upgrade in Burnett. Oswalt left the game last night with a hip injury. That leaves Burnett, Wolf, etc. I think bringing up Carrasco and dropping Eaton to AAA or pen would be a nice adjustment.

   http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20080712_Phillies_Notes__Scout__Phillies_should_bring_up_Carrasco.html

7. NJ Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 9:56 am

   My bad on the Dobbs walk, take that one back.

   The reason I say about the platoon is although Jenkin’s hasn’t produced Werth very much has and Jenkin’s has chipped in intermitently. Statisticly the platoon has done enough that if it was an everday player there has been some very decent production after fears Rowands bat couldn’t be replaced. Jenkins deserves to take some flack for struggling to produce but isn’t getting much of a chance to play himself back into the line-up on a regular basis, which is credit to Werth for earning the everyday job. That outfield really hasn’t been as bad as is sometimes made out here and a Werth/Vic platoon that is sometimes suggested will just result in likely lesser play from both of them (particularly vic), plus you loose any possible production from Jenkins AND won’t get the full production from a newly acquired starting outfielder who will have his playing time reduced trying to get the other guys into the line-up, it’ll be really messy.

8. Derek Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 10:03 am

   Yeah chris, trade taguchi now….his trade value is at an all time high after last night, we might be able to get some pine tar sticks for him, or maybe some eye black

9. NJ Says:
   July 12th, 2008 at 10:07 am

   Haha nice one Derek, maybe we should call on that the indenpedant league GM who traded one of his guys for bats.

10. Clare Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    I’m sad I missed this game (I’m in Chicago), it sounds like it was a really good game. Nevertheless, I’m very happy we won! I’ll be at Wrigley today, wearing a Phils shirt. =)

11. dan Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 10:16 am

    anyone else think vic deserves the ashburn?

12. Derek Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Absolutely…i mean yeah, Johnny wacko got the game winning hit, but the flyin hawaiin was everywhere last night

13. Derek Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 10:22 am

    Sorry i think the nickname the phillies segments are getting to me

14. Phil Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 10:32 am

    Yeah, I was shocked Werth had the Ashburn Award. Vic had a run scored on that great double steal, a double, a triple, and 2 RBI’s. He was on base a lot too.

15. Derek Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Didn’t he throw someone out too?

16. Phil Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 11:32 am

    He may have, I forget.

17. Brian Michael Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Yea, Shane definitely deserved the Ashburn Award, but when you get the GW hit in extras at home, it’s almost automatic you’re getting it that night. A game winner is the difference between having to give out an Ashburn and a Jeltzie…

18. Phil Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 11:51 am

    touche

19. Greg V. Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    I’m glad to see we won last night because I am almost willing to gurantee that Adam Eaton loses against the Big Unit today!

20. Matty in Maine Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    I wouldn’t be so down on Eaton, Johnson has had one good start in the last month. I predict at least 8 runs for the Phils today.

21. Phil Says:
    July 12th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Yeah, Eaton has been consistent this year. He blew up one game and everyone jumped all over his shit. If he goes 4 out of every 5 starts being a Q then that’s a good 5th starter. Randy Johnson has been consistently bad all season. I’m banking on Eaton for a win.

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