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Gamenight: Mets (73-60) At Phillies (73-59)
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Wed, August 27, 2008 06:14 PM
Headline: Expect anything, everything
The Major Players: Kyle Kendrick, Johan Santana, Pat Burrell, Pedro Feliz
The Venue: Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia
The Number: 0.5 games ahead
Yesterday the Phillies and Mets played — hyperbole necessary — the best game of the 2008 baseball season, and then some. The Phils won 8-7 in 13 innings, 13 gutwrenching innings of great baseball. Chris Coste delievered the winning RBI, a fly ball single into deep center field that scored Shane Victorino and sent Philadelphia into a frenzy not heard since Sept. 30, 2007.
Carpenter’s School: Because the bullpen was so taxed yesterday, the Phillies brought up Andrew Carpenter from A+ Clearwater. He could pitch an inning or two, or three. It’s best that Kyle Kendrick goes deep into this one.
Pick Up Bat, Pat: Pat Burrell is a key player tonight because as the Phils main right-handed hitting threat, he has to come through against New York ace Johan Santana. Burrell, of course, went 0-for-7 last night, maybe the worst performance of his career.
Jars Of Clay: As if there wasn’t more to write about last night, Clay Condrey had his first hit since 2003 with a double in the fourth inning. It was the first extra-base hit of his career and the second run scored of his career. His OPS is at a very nice 1.000.
Don’t Mess With The Johan: In three starts against the Phillies this season, Johan Santana is is 1-0 with a 2.74 ERA and 20 K. With at least a five-inning performance tonight, Santana would’ve pitched against the Phils twice as much as any other team he’s faced this season.
Phillies: Kyle Kendrick (11-7) 4.87 ERA
Mets: Johan Santana (12-7) 2.64 ERA
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EST
Weather: 79, partly cloudy
Lineup: Rollins/Utley/Burrell/Howard/Victorino/Werth/Feliz/Coste/Kendrick
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Your gamenight beer: Hopefully you enjoyed last night’s beer slow, because I’m not pitcking up your hospital bill. Tonight we stay slow with Cadillac Mountain Stout from Bar Harbor in Maine. Eat beef brisket with this and sit back, watch the fun unfold.
Go Phillies!
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August 27th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
i missed harrys call last night in the 13th
August 27th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
hey im thinking about getting mlb.tv for the rest of the season and im wondering if the regular package is good enough or should i just get the premium….anybody have any thoughts?
August 27th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
premium has better picture quatlity
August 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Looking forward to tonights game with Johan.He needs to go at least 9 innings for the Mets to be successful tonight and NOT hand it to the “Poison Pen” because we all know the Mets bullpen is worthless!
August 27th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
i just watched a demo of the difference between the two and wow….you’d be an idiot not to get premium
August 27th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
would they have CSN
August 27th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
i believe so….im paying now so ill know shortly
August 27th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
R. Mac — if you are going to full screen most of the games, def get premium. if you are gonna watch on teh small box, then it’s not as big of a deal.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Glad to see the “Riff-Raff” so called Mets fans aren’t here yet.Only a matter of time.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
wow were so lucky we play in a sandox! lol lets get em phils
August 27th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I can’t believe that just happened.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I can’t wait till the phils trade or cut pat the can’t bat burrell
August 27th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
nice shot there, ryan
August 27th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
On MLB.TV you get the oppositions broadcast of that game. So, if they Phillies are away you will get the Comcast feed.
Though, If you are in the Phillies viewing area (which you can see what games will be blacked out to you on the MLB.TV site) you won’t be able to watch Nationally Televised games or Phils games for that matter.
I use the Premium package because you can watch 6 games at once. Kinda dorky but it’s whatever.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
big fella!
August 27th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
howards homer was gone anywhere. down the line in most ballparks are similiar plus it was 10 rows deep. does anyone want to extend burell anymore? big question
August 27th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Rob – I get the home feed on MLB.tv.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Boy it is tough to watch kendrick pitch!
August 27th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
sit pat no bat burell no matter what his salerie is it is bad when you player becomes your opponients best wepon
August 27th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Pat always has that one hot stretch a year and then goes back to normal for the rest of the year with a few shots of brillantcy.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Jayson Werth is such a stud. If Jenkins gets any more starts when he comes back i’ll flip out.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Holy shit – they just cited the wind as a reason for Jayson Werth’s homer on SNY. Are you kidding?
August 27th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Tim – that is unreal. That bothers me so much, I can’t even stand it.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Here’s how SNY divides its time talking about the Phillies offense tonight:
- 72% – Citizens Bank Park is a “bandbox” (or something to do with that).
- 11% – It’s the wind.
- 10% – Mets pitching is full of fly-ball pitchers.
- 6% – The Mets bullpen stinks.
- 1% – The Phillies are a good offense.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Kendrick is TOOOO tough to watch
August 27th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Johan Santana is mortal after all. whens the last time he gave up 3 runs?
August 27th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Lets hope our bullpen isnt too tired from last night, we’ll be seeing them soon. The Mets lineup is poison for Kendrick, they make him throw strikes and foul alot off. Thats the second time Reyes got screwed by the hitter. Except this time was an out.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
sooooooo its blacked out on mlb.tv….i live in delaware….wtf
August 27th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
TJ – Kendrick has a lifetime 2.40 ERA vs the Mets. That’s some damn weak poison.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Yea, I was just about to say, Kendrick pitches pretty damn well against the Mets usually.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Jose Reyes has an IQ of 65.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Mike W. – He’s thrown 190 pitches in 8.1 innings this year against them excluding tonight
August 27th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Maybe one day Chase Utley will have a good at-bat
August 27th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
I was at the game last night! During the fourth inning, the Mets fans next to me spontaneously said, “…and now we’re going to start losing”.
Sweet! Do you guys have any special thing you wear while watching the game?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Maybe one day Pat Burrell will get a hit
August 27th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
He may pitch well but he isnt exactly a bullpen’s best friend when dealing with them. He usually goes six as it is but with a higher than normal pitch count, I’ll be surprised, in a good way, if he makes out of the fifth.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Maybe one day we will appreciate the good…
August 27th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
good d big man
August 27th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
wow just called customer service and they said i cant see the phillies…..ever……what a crock of horseshit
August 27th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
jesus, getting nervous. way too many 3-0 counts goin on.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
When did Carlos Beltran turn into Barry Bonds of last year? Why does he play the game like he is 42 yrs old. I think the Muts pay that dude 20 million bucks a year. He is a real trash pile.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
kendirck is on pace for 5 innings
August 27th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Thats what I was talking about in reference to them being poison to him. The Mets are very disciplined and they will work a pitcher like KK early.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
expample a why the muts gm is a smart man
August 27th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
beltran, delgado, schoenweiss, sticking with heilman and felicaniano i mean how much smarter can this guy get.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
That is something rare, Howard drawing a walk.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
R.Mac, that sucks you cant get the MLB.TV because you live too close? Damn. That sucks. Send your subscription down here to Charlotte, NC. I dont get to see shite…
August 27th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
is gameday not working for anyone else?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
its really slow tonight but its working
August 27th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
kk is really pitching good so far
August 27th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
well howdy guysss
August 27th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
howdy
August 27th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Yo waddup I liek teh Metsssss
August 27th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
i dont but i love how you choke
August 27th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Buckner was paid. Just Kidding, maybe who knows. How immature are Mets fans? They are always so defensive.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Utley comes in the clutch?
August 27th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
i hope come on chase
August 27th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Reyes is like a little kid, chatting away out there how cool it is that they both are number 7. Hes probably so excited about that.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Maybe one day Utley will get a hit
August 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
tell me about it…just hope he says something stupid like Rollins and then goes on a tear!
August 27th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
one day
August 27th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
cmon delcrapo help us out here!!
August 27th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
ok i take that bac sorry delgado didnt think u would take it offensive dude
August 27th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
here come the retard mets fans again
August 27th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
damn, a bunch of fastballs and hes gonna hit one of them…
August 27th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
kk needs to get a few outs
August 27th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
We need ash bats in the MLB, too many broken bats.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
tj agreed i saw a piece on espn bbtn and they dont think the mlbpa will allow it. Great job by eyre
August 27th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
In the Eyre tonight. Woo! And now Guiseppe Franco. Woo!
August 27th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
lets go philthies lets go philthies lets gooooo
August 27th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
way to go pat the bat
August 27th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
What just happened, Pat didnt get out…
August 27th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
We may need that filter yet.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
finally go fat burell good job finally broke the streak of wat was it 10 consecutive strike outs anybody knows? any body?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Howard is so easy to get out, first pitch offspeed, high fast, low offspeed.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
who cares he got a hit off your stupid ace
August 27th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
howard has been putting some good at-bats together tonight
August 27th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Anything that doesnt start over the plate is OK to pitch to Howard.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
santana is laying on 25 million a year and wat u laying buddy? dont call our ace stupid wen hes clearly the best, stats dont lie!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
santana must be scared of howard hr and 2 bb
August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
look whos batting that lil rat victorino i cant stand that dude
August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
No GIDP Vic. When was the last time he did that before last at bat? Anyone know?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
i cant stand reyes and his -100 iq and his antics when he does something.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Whole team has been putting good at bats against Santana all night.
And anybody ever notice, on both sides of the coin, the trash talkers sound the dumbest?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Our divison lead doesnt lie, last nights game doesnt lie, the scoreboard doesnt lie. Sabathia is better. Shut the fuck up or go on a Mets board.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
TJ, were you referring to me? I’m a Phils fan.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
That was an awesome stat right there, 1 GIDP as a Phillie ( 2 years ) for Werth.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
sabathia better? dude wake up!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
i hate this trash talking
August 27th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Im awake and Sabathia is still better.
SJ Mike – no haha this other dude.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
actually Cliff Lee is the best pitcher in the league right now
August 27th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
ok lets put it this way when cc went to the brewers they arent making the playoffs now hes there and he is like 8-0 and they are going to print the tickets now
August 27th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
TJ – Ok, cool.
I haven’t seen enough of Sabathia outside of highlights on Baseball Tonight. Santana is very good though. He just hasn’t been supported well enough by the Mets.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
lee is the al cy young winner hands down and i think webb is in the nl
August 27th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
really compare the stats since 20o3 and on
August 27th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
santana has to pitch with worst bull pen in the division and if he was with the phillies he would have 15-18 wins
August 27th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I think your right ball 4, but the offenses really let down Hamels and Santana or you could mention their names in Cy talks
August 27th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
really compare the stats since 20o3 and on – Look at stats put up by Sabathia in a stronger NL Central.
I have seen alot of starts by Sabathia and he is way more dominant than I think. Lee has been insane this year as well. I like to catch these great pitchers when I can on extra innings.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Eyre has been a really solid pick-up so far
August 27th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
show me. 1 year doesnt mean nothing dude gotta keep that up for 3 or 4 years sabathia is not betta then santana ….santana would have a better record if the bullpen couldve kept the lead.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Yea, only two hits since hes been here. No runs in 5.2 plus tonight.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
cc and santana are not good in the post season
August 27th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
i love having 2 quality left arms in the bullpen. Its so much more comforting than last year when it was a patchwork of Alfonseca, Mesa, Geary. I hated seeing those guys against lefties.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Boy, what a beautiful thing to have two effective lefties in the pen. Scott Eyre is fantastic so far.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Sabathia was AL CY young last year, who did he beat out for that? Sabathia is putting up better numbers in the NL right now and has about 50 more strikeouts this year and a slightly higher ERA that you have to take into account he was in the AL for the first half.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Durbin in the 8th?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
“cc and santana are not good in the post season”
Irrelavent, But they’ll get you there.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
The Scott Eyre trade is looking very good so far.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
seanez i think because durbin, madson and jc are not aviable i dotn think
August 27th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Saenez then Lidge.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
J-Roll on base again, think he steals.. again? how likely would that be with 2 outs?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
apparently very
August 27th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Nice job J-Roll.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
TJ, guess your question was just answered
August 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
I’d say Burrell is due here for a good one.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
And now Pat the Bat has to get a hit here. HAS to. Or he’ll be in the doghouse with the fans.
Pat Burrell – worst plate appearence song? Say – John Mayer. How does that motivate you at all to get a hit, its so laid back.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
burell burell burell u leave your fans down again lol
August 27th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
BIG half inning coming up
August 27th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
“1 world series in 100 years” – Do you have anything baseball related to say or are you gonna gonna rag on the players of the winning team?
Now this Taguchi sub in for Burrell makes sense.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
I have a bad feeling about Wright, right now.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I honestly never understood the “defensive replacement” for Burrell. The upgrades aren’t that much in my opinion and too many times has his spot come around in later innings where we could’ve used him.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
HUGE strikeout
August 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Burrell’s entrance music is John Mayer? Get-outta-here!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
In the words of Han Solo, “I’ve got a bad feeling about this.”
August 27th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Hey David, wave good bye to your MVP.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Holy Shit. Taguchi and Seanez entering the game at the same time. What a nightmare…….TJ: THEY PLAY THE JOHN MAYER SONG WHEN THE OPPOSING TEAM HAS A VISIT FROM THE PITCHING COACH. Burrell has the hilarious “dirty laundry” by Don Henley
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Maybe we bat Vic third tomorrow? Or J-Hole 3 and Vic lead off.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
danny – Swear to you. iTunes it or something, Say by John Mayer. He may mix it up with some Jack Johnson every now and then. lol Im kidding but when I was at the game my girlfriend knew the words.
FUCK
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
my main man delcrapo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Thought so…..Delgado’s numbers were too good off of Seanez.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
TJ starting vicious rumors about our beloved Burrell..
August 27th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
what was Charlie thinking?? you NEED to bring Lidge in for this spot. Dumb move on his part.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
who cares it was 7-0 last night
August 27th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Too bad our closer can never go more than 3 outs.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
That guy – you’re probably right, the only time I notice it is when Burrell is up though.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
there are more than a few mets on human growth hormone. delgado being one of them.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
if still tied do we see Carpenter in the 9th?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
NOW he’s bringing Lidge in with teh tie???? what the heck is wrong with him? the phillies would not be in this spot if he brought him in for delgado
August 27th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
About a batter too late Chalie.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
no, do not bring lidge in now. horrible move right here.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Mike T. where do you get your accusations that delgado and among others (as you in imply) are on HGH?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
bad move, Chollie, bad move.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
hell yea delgado thats how you do it baby!!!! mets coming back to first baby!!!!!!!!!!
LETS GO PHILS!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Bad move not pulling Seanez after the first two outs. You can’t gamble that there.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Trust me. Burrell’s music hasn’t changed in years. They either play “Say” or “Three’s Company” theme music every time the visitors pitching coach walks out to the mound.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
I was thinking Lidge should’ve come in when Delgado came up. Oh well. Just gotta get them back now with Howard, Victorino, and Werth in the bottom.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
gary: You seem torn. Seek help.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
lets go philadelphia mets!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Burell used to come out to holy diver in fact that was as early as last year
August 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
easiest stolen base ever.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
I was thinking the same thing! Once Seanez got two outs, Lidge should have come out!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Joshua: The rumors started when Delgado was seen rifling through Tatis’ locker with his pants pulled down.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Who pitches for the Mets in the bottom of the 8th?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Dame the Phils were cruising along in this game too…Seanez shouldn’t of been facing Delgado he already has big numbers against him and btw Delgado is definitly taking HGH or something…I still can’t believe Charlie is bringing in Lidge now,not a good move.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
yep, told you. you do not bring in your closer early. NEVER. let seanez go, what the fuck.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Murphy comes through, wow. charlies move is now looking even more worse.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Colsers…..OVERPAID…OVER RATED
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
helllll yea babY D MURPHY!!!!!!! O IM LIGHTS OUT LIDGE AND I LOVE MAN PARTS
August 27th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Fuck. Good thing Feliciano is coming in.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
but where do u get the notion that tatis did steriods? because he’s having a good season?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
A product of yesterday’s taxing work. Seanez in an eighth inning, Lidge coming in with a tie. Not to mention Kendrick’s shorter outing. What can you do?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
And the trolls come in now.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
joshua, here are the mets on HGH:
- fernando tatis
- carlos delgado
- david wright
- carlos beltran
- aaron heilman
now, these are not implications, this is straight factual information. take it how you want.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Ouch
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
why do you walk the guy with the concussion? It’s not like Lidge is some sort of dead ground ball pitcher
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Can’t wait for Taguchi to get a key at-bat
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Tim, it’s also a high stakes, high octane division matchup. As we saw last night, these things happen to the best and worst of them.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Meh. I’m not too upset if they lose this one.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA B SCHNEIDER BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SUCK IT PHILS ENJOY LAST NIGHT ITS OVER NOW BABY ENJOY THEM CUBBIES AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
August 27th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
HOly Crap, 6 -3 NY. is this getting Worse ( or better if you’re from ny) by the minute…all with 2 outs.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Nice play Utley.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
david wright is on hgh? and carlos beltran? really?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
I hope the Mets get overly confident (again)… you know what happens next
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Charlie: its not usually a good idea to ask for a 2-inning save, brad lidge is a ONE INNING CLOSER. fucking idiot charlie.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Mike T. i guess what ever you say is fact. my mistake.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
I swear Charlie sucks when it comes to deciding which pitcher to put in in which situations.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Oh, absolutely Mike. And so the onus is also on the offense for not coming through twice with runners in scoring position.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
This game doesn’t mean shit as well as last nights. This is coming down to the end of the season.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Where’s Romero to pitch to Delgado?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
If we lose, everyone is back where we were yesterday morning. In a “virtual tie” with that half game difference. I’d be disappointed, but not heartbroken if they lost tonight.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Yo take it easy on Charlie… haha… He probably made a mistake today, but he’s been very good besides that
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
@NEPA … Romero is unavailable, he threw 20+ pitches in each of the last three.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
if the mets win, all that means is you can pretend these 2 games never happened…thats not really much.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
PP: Why don’t you get outta here with that language. Thanks.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Since when has Wright, Beltran, Delgado been on HGH?!?!?!? Tatis I would assume did something in the late 90’s. But seriously that is most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
J MANUEL > C MANUEL
August 27th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
After tonight, Mets and Phillies are tied in losses. And, since every Mets fan sucks Cerrone’s scrotum, it must mean something.
And–Pedro–want to comment on the bandbox? It tied this game.
I love how folks complain about it when they lose and stay silent in (assumed) wins. What a whiner.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
even as a mets fan i can say its clear this game is anything but over……mets fans really need to relax
August 27th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Tim, can’t you just delete that assholes comments?
August 27th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
“If the Mets win the division this year, Phillies fans will go back to the decision …”
Seriously, SNY, it’s August 27. Why I wrote what I wrote yesterday.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
i don’t care how many pitches romero has thrown in his entire life. he needs to be in there to pitch to delgado. he probably throws 4 pitches and leaves the game. even if delgado walks or something, you could pull him and bring in a righty for the next guy. it doesn’t make any sense. you can’t let delgado bat against a guy he’s hitting .500 off of with 2 hr’s.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
DO U REALIZE EVERYONE ON THESE BLOGS WHO ARE LIKE O METS FANS PHILLIES FANS LETS BE CIVIL, HAVE A TEA PARTY, ARE COMPLETE FOOLS. I KNOW I HATE YOU, YOU KNOW YOU HATE ME.
NEW YORK > PHILLY
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Tim why can’t you ban the asshole Met fans like PP. As a Mets fan, I have been going to this forum for some time and haven’t caused an issue.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Ryan – its a league rule, hes unavailable.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
I’ll have to give it to the Muts Trolls. After a taxing 24 hours of posting on here and searching ebay for “Taz” decals and floormats for their Camaro, you’d think they would be spent. But alas, they are a resilient group, powered by Doc Gooden’s leftover crack and Keith Hernandez’ leftover Amoxicillin from his latest Syphilis infection.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
i like you. even if you are a fag. i envision an america where fags like you and upstanding citizens like us phillies fans can live in harmony
August 27th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
I’m not taking a stance on the move, just saying that before the game Charlie took Condrey, Romero and Madson off the table.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Phuck Philly your an idiot if you hate someone bc of the team they cheer for …your a real class act…. way to represent NY
August 27th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Holy Shit David Wright!
August 27th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
David Wright, Glove of GOld, i guess Mike T.s steriods work for him.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
OK IM GONNA BE CIVIL NOW, JOHN, IS IT REALLY A RULE YOU CANT PITCH AFTER 20+ PITCHES? IM NOT TRYING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS, JUST WONDERING
August 27th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
That was a great play by Wright.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
If the Mets hold on to win this, this has been the biggest waste of a series ever.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
IM NOT SAYING I HATE YOU EXACTLY, I HATE PHILS FANS AFTER LAST YEAR ALL THE SHIT THEY TALKED, NOT ON THIS BLOG , BUT IN GENERAL
August 27th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Gotta hand it David Wright, he just made up for his play last night when he fell on his butt….twice.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Guys:
You realize that after tonight’s L (Mets’ W), the Mets are guaranteed to win the World Series. I read it on MetsBlog.
It’s going to be a fun remainder of the season, assuming the Fightins don’t crap the bed in Chicago.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
P.S. IM NOT EVEN FROM NY
August 27th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
PHUCK PHILLY: If you care so much maybe you need to go get a life. I’m a HUGE Mets fan but you know what the Mets fuckin stunk at the end of the year and the Phillies put them out of their misery.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
I’ll have to give it to the Muts Trolls. After a taxing 24 hours of posting on here and searching ebay for “Taz” decals and floormats for their Camaro, you’d think they would be spent. But alas, they are a resilient group, powered by Doc Gooden’s leftover crack and Keith Hernandez’ leftover Amoxicillin from his latest Syphilis infection
August 27th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
We’re an open forum, so we don’t ban, but we take care of people when they get out of hand. If this guy wants to press the issue, we’ll do what we have to. Makes no sense to do it, if I’m him, of course.
Switching gears, I loathe listening to these Mets announcers. Especially that high-pitched “outta here” call.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
RivLez – There isnt much influence a 2 game series can have unless someone sweeps but the Mets took a toll on our bullpen with a big series coming up.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
PHUCK PHILLY:
Did you see any of the crowd shots during this game–i.e., lone Mets fans standing in an all Phillies row, etc., being assholes?
Phillies fans are not shit talkers. Phillies AND Mets fans are shit talkers.
But, both also whine when the other does it. It’s annoying.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Tim: I actually think the Mets announcers are the best in baseball IMO. Not just because I am a Mets fan. If you think they are bad, listen to YES. I would rather kill myself than listen to that crappy boring broadcast.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
OK IM GETTING TIRED OF THIS ARGUING, WITH ALL HONESTY, IT WILL BE A GOOD RACE
August 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
“I’m not even from NY”…….No Shit
August 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
To answer the question PP: Relievers aren’t necessarily unavailable after one 20+ pitch outing. However, managers have to make pitchers unavailable for at least a game after a certain amount of outings or pitches thrown consecutively.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
So if they don’t pull this through, Lidge will be charged his first loss of the season then.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Haha wow, Charlie really screwed this one up. Carpenter in for the ninth now?
August 27th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
TIM, the mets anouncers are one of the best in baseball. compare them to YES, ESPN, FOX and any clip you hear on baseball tonight.. Darling won an emmy as a matter of fact.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
so each manager has to automatically announce if the pitcher is unavailable before a game? sorry i just dont understand lol
August 27th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
You get some nice nuggets of analysis from the SNY crew, but just watching this season, there is a lack of research from Hernandez and Darling, and just from a personal standpoint, there seems to be a bit too much hyperbole in calls.
I’d compare them evenly with the Phillies crew, which can be a little too stodgy and happy-go-lucky.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
We’re an open forum, but I will delete your comments if they are obscenity-laced, so don’t waste your time.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
sj mike- beltran scored the go ahead run, and he faced seanez, so seanez would get the loss if im right
August 27th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
I haven’t ever heard the Phillies guys. It would be interesting. But seriously YES has got to be the worst. If I was a Yankee fan, I would have to stop being one because I can not listen to that terrible crap they call commentating.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
When it comes to announcers, I can’t stand Gary Matthews, who does color commentary like Captain Obvious. “The way you win games is you score more runs then the other team!”
Kalas is more or less a staple. Wheeler and Mccarthy are good, but they are so smart that sometimes their constant tidbits of information can be a little much.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
All fast balls from this kid.
Looks like his command can use some more work.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Who are you guys kidding? Ron Darling has the worst voice in broadcast, and Keith is a misogynist. I would hardly call them the best in baseball – 2 ballplayers cannot complete broadcast booth.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
nobody is better than harry kalas. ever. end of story. hate to bring up harsh memories but one of harry’s greatest calls ever was two years ago in the astros series when harry said “they’re all unearned but who cares”. even in the downest of moments that line made me laugh out loud. i dread the day harry kalas is no longer broadcasting phillies games. it will never be the same without him.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
I’m not sure how it’s presented, but it may be via the lineup card. Managers will have to indicate to umpires which players are ineligible.
I don’t know if ineligibility is enforced by MLB (I looked but no dice), but it’s there to protect pitchers (mainly) from overuse.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
wheeler is a dufus. t-man and the sarge have great chemistry
August 27th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
It’s not a league rule, but managers will get together with their pitching coaches and determine who they have available to pitch every night. So, for example, if this were the last game of the season it would be plausible that even starters might be put out in the pen.
Charlie is usually open about telling press who is and is not available before the games. That happened tonight – he listed Condrey, Madson, and Romero.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Ryan, Harry has been at it my whole life (and most of ours), so yeah, it will be weird not hearing his “Outta here” call. When he was out for that week and a half with the eye surgery, the broadcasts did feel a little incomplete.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
oh i get it now, i was confused when someone called it a “league rule” though
August 27th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
how is ron the worst voice? keith is NOT a misogynist, he stated a rule he “thought” the padres were breaking. and there is a third voice, gary cohen. he’s been around since 1989.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
it looks like delgado has been using keith hernandez’s just for men facial hair variety. he had a grey goatee last time. real grey.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Brian I definitely don’t think so. I really enjoy listening to Gary, Ron and Keith. I think they make up a good combo.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Ineligibility isn’t enforced by MLB, nor is it official (in the lineup card or otherwise).
Technically Charlie is allowed to put anyone on the 25 man anywhere on the field, and if he wanted to pitch Romero today technically no one could stop him.
However; informally, that isn’t how it works.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
I only hear the SNY crew when I’m up at my girlfriend’s in North Jersey, and the only time I watch up there is when the Phils are playing. I haven’t heard them enough to really comment on them.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
The availability thing is more of a manager’s preference.
Average inning for Carpenter. Hope he can build off it.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Well, each is entitled to his own preference for broadcasting. The only way to tell if an announcer has transcended his team is to check the Hall of Fame for Frick Award winners.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
this series looks like a wash. oh well. now its time to see who can make it through the stretch run.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Since the Mets have off tomorrow night, the Phils have the chance then to just even it up all together. Which would then make this whole division race even juicier.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Phillies win > Mets win
Phillies win < Mets win
Phillies win = Mets win
what do you think?
August 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Now we can declare this series a waste of time!
August 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
both teams realy showed that niether are good enough to run away with this.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I’d say equal. We’re back exactly where we left off. We both lost in the same fashion each night.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Knew this would happen (series split). The real race is yet to come over the last month.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
it’s like each game was exactly the same, mets lose casue they stopped scoring after the 4th. phillies lose cause tehy stopped scoring after the 4th.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
This is coming down to the end. I know it. It’s going to be an exciting September.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Phillies > Mets
Phillies Mets
Phillies > Mets
Phillies Mets
Phillies Mets
Phillies 5
Mets 10
you tell me who wins?
Phillies
August 27th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
i dont think so
August 27th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
wowowowow nevermind that whole thing got messed up haha
August 27th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Met fan, I know, “why you posting here?” but its apparent that Metsblog’s comments section is perpetually broken, but this is certainly going to be an interesting stretch. Such highs and lows these two games for both sides.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
A split is what was expected.Johan hung tough tonight and the poison pen did the job. Good top of the 8th for the Mets is what did it.Oh well,off to Chi-Town and Miami.Its now time for the Amazins to put the albatross fans to bed and start getting them into Dolphins mode.Good 2 games and 3 more at Shea coming soon. Good luck vs da Cubs.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Series isn’t a waste of time at all. But it completely confirmed my post from yesterday. This was fun, big stuff, but we’re going every day until the very, very end.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Along with their bullpen woes, their ability to bounce back from hideous losses is what I expected from this season’s Mets. You might say they’re the anti-clutch, but you cannot get any more clutch than that when you rebound.
This will be a dog-fight to the end. Already lookin’ forward to next weekend. See ya then. LETS GO METS!!
P.S. MMR Rocks!
August 27th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Have to bring this up again: Note how us Phils fans aren’t really over on Metsblog posting, even after last night!
Why do you a-holes have to come to this blog and annoy us? It’s just incredibly lame.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Theres a reason Ron Darling won an emmy for his play by play,his collegues and other sports journalists felt he deserved it.Gary Cohen learned his skill from one of the best in Bob Murphy.Keith Hernandez i’ll give you.Radio front Howie Rose (as was Cohen) grew up Mets fans and Wayne Hagin is more a polished pro.BTW Ron Darling is well respected that he does Sundays at TBS with third generation caster Chip Caray.Also if you want to refer the Mets announcers as “homers”,just listen to the last Mets game of 2007.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
From Matt Cerrone at Metsblog.
“It’s a shame an opposite field pop up is a homerun, but that’s what you get when you play at Citizens Bank Park.”
He said that in reference to Howard’s homerun. Didn’t that same thing happen for Delgado in almost the exact same spot. Why is it a shame for us but totally legit for them?
August 27th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Oh my god, Howard’s shot was a bomb. That was out at Shea. What a crock of shit.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
as a Phils fan living in NY, I have to say the SNY crew is probably the best in baseball. Gary Cohen has become more of a homer since he left the radio booth, but the real stars are Darling and Hernandez. They are insightful and Hernandez is just funny. His knowledge of opposing teams isn’t great, but his willingness to bash someone on ANY team (Mets as well) is refreshing.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
I posted that pop up is a homerun comment at Metsblog. The response I get from their fans. “Oh it’s a crime either way. Serves them right when it happens to them for designing that terrible park that way.”
I happily pointed out that both were about 340 feet and would’ve been out a Shea.
Then again, its like trying to tell someone the color of the sky is blue when they insist its red.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
I love the SNY crew but you guys are right that Cohen has become more of a homer lately. I thought his call on Delgado’s home run was way over the top. At that point I still figured the Mets would lose the game. However, if you listen to those 3 every night they really do have great chemistry and are a great listen. It’s funny, Keith and Ron were both Mets and won a WS and they aren’t homers at all. They really just appreciate and applaud good baseball.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
SJ Mike: You’re disproving your brethren Phillies fans’ point about how no Phils fans post on MetsBlog. Can’t we all just agree that it’s fun to go back and forth and the shit talkers are annoying on both sides?
August 27th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
what a game! Just got back from shea, I mean Philly. It felt like shea with the crowd. Great game! Go Mets!!!!! Lidge back to reality!!
August 27th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
I read Metsblog very often and rarely post. I’ve said it early in this thread and I’ll say it again: it may be that I get cheesed about it more often because my girlfriend lives in North Jersey so I hear a lot of opposing viewpoints from Mets fans (and Yankees fans for that matter, and let’s toss in the Giants fans) who like to jump on me, my city, my teams, and my stadiums every chance they get. They like to go out on full offensive.
I always try to defend and stick up for Philly in a respectful and constructive way whenever it is dissed. Sometimes something just makes me snap and I feel the need to stick up for it.
I was posting over at Metsblog telling the obnoxious Philly fans to stop posting offensive and ridiculous comments. I try to be as objective as I can.
But yeah, they’re annoying on both sides. I love getting into debates with the opposing fans who are more or less general fans of the game itself and not just their specific team.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
what a game! Just got back from shea, I mean Philly. It felt like shea with the crowd. Great game! Go Mets!!!!! Lidge back to reality!!
But it didnt smell like shea. I would say there are about 4000 Mets fans at the Bank when they play so you guys are represented well and a come from behind game like this you guys are gonna outcheer a depressed Phils crowd. It was a good game but just not in our favor. Now the real race starts
August 28th, 2008 at 12:08 am
I knew TJ was a met fan all along. Did I not call that when he and Don M teamed up against me in an argument the other day?
in any event the series was a wash and the more resilient/less sucky team will win this division. and its a baaaaaaaaaad division. ill have more venting to do tomorrow, if i feel like it.
peace
August 28th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Geoff, Im in no form a Mets fan. Im excited to hear how we should blow up this team tommorow, looking forward to it. Should we trade Hamels for Feliciano this time?
August 28th, 2008 at 2:15 am
> joshua, here are the mets on HGH:
>
> – fernando tatis
> – carlos delgado
> – david wright
> – carlos beltran
> – aaron heilman
>
> now, these are not implications, this is straight
> factual information. take it how you want.
Yeah… because some moron from Philadelphia says so.
August 28th, 2008 at 2:24 am
Cohen is a Mets fan. He grew up a Mets fan. He’s broadcasting on SNY… the Mets channel. He’s sitting next to Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez… Mets Royalty. If I wanted whitewashed, unemotional, uninteresting sportscasters, I’d watch ESPN… or listen to Tim McCarver. I prefer listening to someone who is as interested in my team as I am. If that makes him a homer, then so be it… I don’t really think that’s the definition of a homer, though.
A homer wouldn’t point out the bullpen’s awful performance or fairly offer his opinion about a bad umpiring call that benefits the Mets or… well… the list goes on.