Gamenight: Mets (73-60) At Phillies (73-59)

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Wed, August 27, 2008 06:14 PM

Headline: Expect anything, everything
The Major Players: Kyle Kendrick, Johan Santana, Pat Burrell, Pedro Feliz
The Venue: Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia
The Number: 0.5 games ahead

Yesterday the Phillies and Mets played — hyperbole necessary — the best game of the 2008 baseball season, and then some. The Phils won 8-7 in 13 innings, 13 gutwrenching innings of great baseball. Chris Coste delievered the winning RBI, a fly ball single into deep center field that scored Shane Victorino and sent Philadelphia into a frenzy not heard since Sept. 30, 2007.

Carpenter’s School: Because the bullpen was so taxed yesterday, the Phillies brought up Andrew Carpenter from A+ Clearwater. He could pitch an inning or two, or three. It’s best that Kyle Kendrick goes deep into this one.

Pick Up Bat, Pat: Pat Burrell is a key player tonight because as the Phils main right-handed hitting threat, he has to come through against New York ace Johan Santana. Burrell, of course, went 0-for-7 last night, maybe the worst performance of his career.

Jars Of Clay: As if there wasn’t more to write about last night, Clay Condrey had his first hit since 2003 with a double in the fourth inning. It was the first extra-base hit of his career and the second run scored of his career. His OPS is at a very nice 1.000.

Don’t Mess With The Johan: In three starts against the Phillies this season, Johan Santana is is 1-0 with a 2.74 ERA and 20 K. With at least a five-inning performance tonight, Santana would’ve pitched against the Phils twice as much as any other team he’s faced this season.

Phillies: Kyle Kendrick (11-7) 4.87 ERA
Mets: Johan Santana (12-7) 2.64 ERA

Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EST
Weather: 79, partly cloudy
Lineup: Rollins/Utley/Burrell/Howard/Victorino/Werth/Feliz/Coste/Kendrick

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Your gamenight beer: Hopefully you enjoyed last night’s beer slow, because I’m not pitcking up your hospital bill. Tonight we stay slow with Cadillac Mountain Stout from Bar Harbor in Maine. Eat beef brisket with this and sit back, watch the fun unfold.

Go Phillies!

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271 Responses to “Gamenight: Mets (73-60) At Phillies (73-59)”

  1. mets suck Says:

    i missed harrys call last night in the 13th

  2. R.Mac Says:

    hey im thinking about getting mlb.tv for the rest of the season and im wondering if the regular package is good enough or should i just get the premium….anybody have any thoughts?

  3. mets suck Says:

    premium has better picture quatlity

  4. Grrrumpy Miner Says:

    Looking forward to tonights game with Johan.He needs to go at least 9 innings for the Mets to be successful tonight and NOT hand it to the “Poison Pen” because we all know the Mets bullpen is worthless!

  5. R.Mac Says:

    i just watched a demo of the difference between the two and wow….you’d be an idiot not to get premium

  6. mets suck Says:

    would they have CSN

  7. R.Mac Says:

    i believe so….im paying now so ill know shortly

  8. Mike W. Says:

    R. Mac — if you are going to full screen most of the games, def get premium. if you are gonna watch on teh small box, then it’s not as big of a deal.

  9. Grrrumpy Miner Says:

    Glad to see the “Riff-Raff” so called Mets fans aren’t here yet.Only a matter of time.

  10. gary Says:

    wow were so lucky we play in a sandox! lol lets get em phils

  11. NEPA Says:

    I can’t believe that just happened.

  12. nick diprimeo Says:

    I can’t wait till the phils trade or cut pat the can’t bat burrell

  13. Tim Malcolm Says:

    nice shot there, ryan

  14. Rob Cowie Says:

    On MLB.TV you get the oppositions broadcast of that game. So, if they Phillies are away you will get the Comcast feed.

    Though, If you are in the Phillies viewing area (which you can see what games will be blacked out to you on the MLB.TV site) you won’t be able to watch Nationally Televised games or Phils games for that matter.

    I use the Premium package because you can watch 6 games at once. Kinda dorky but it’s whatever.

  15. ped Says:

    big fella!

  16. Choke Utley Says:

    howards homer was gone anywhere. down the line in most ballparks are similiar plus it was 10 rows deep. does anyone want to extend burell anymore? big question

  17. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Rob – I get the home feed on MLB.tv.

  18. Choke Utley Says:

    Boy it is tough to watch kendrick pitch!

  19. pat sucks Says:

    sit pat no bat burell no matter what his salerie is it is bad when you player becomes your opponients best wepon

  20. Choke Utley Says:

    Pat always has that one hot stretch a year and then goes back to normal for the rest of the year with a few shots of brillantcy.

  21. Mike W. Says:

    Jayson Werth is such a stud. If Jenkins gets any more starts when he comes back i’ll flip out.

  22. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Holy shit – they just cited the wind as a reason for Jayson Werth’s homer on SNY. Are you kidding?

  23. Mike W. Says:

    Tim – that is unreal. That bothers me so much, I can’t even stand it.

  24. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Here’s how SNY divides its time talking about the Phillies offense tonight:

    - 72% – Citizens Bank Park is a “bandbox” (or something to do with that).
    - 11% – It’s the wind.
    - 10% – Mets pitching is full of fly-ball pitchers.
    - 6% – The Mets bullpen stinks.
    - 1% – The Phillies are a good offense.

  25. Choke Utley Says:

    Kendrick is TOOOO tough to watch

  26. Geoff Says:

    Johan Santana is mortal after all. whens the last time he gave up 3 runs?

  27. TJ Says:

    Lets hope our bullpen isnt too tired from last night, we’ll be seeing them soon. The Mets lineup is poison for Kendrick, they make him throw strikes and foul alot off. Thats the second time Reyes got screwed by the hitter. Except this time was an out.

  28. R.Mac Says:

    sooooooo its blacked out on mlb.tv….i live in delaware….wtf

  29. Mike W. Says:

    TJ – Kendrick has a lifetime 2.40 ERA vs the Mets. That’s some damn weak poison.

  30. NEPA Says:

    Yea, I was just about to say, Kendrick pitches pretty damn well against the Mets usually.

  31. that guy Says:

    Jose Reyes has an IQ of 65.

  32. TJ Says:

    Mike W. – He’s thrown 190 pitches in 8.1 innings this year against them excluding tonight

  33. that guy Says:

    Maybe one day Chase Utley will have a good at-bat

  34. ataraxite Says:

    I was at the game last night! During the fourth inning, the Mets fans next to me spontaneously said, “…and now we’re going to start losing”.

    Sweet! Do you guys have any special thing you wear while watching the game?

  35. that guy Says:

    Maybe one day Pat Burrell will get a hit

  36. TJ Says:

    He may pitch well but he isnt exactly a bullpen’s best friend when dealing with them. He usually goes six as it is but with a higher than normal pitch count, I’ll be surprised, in a good way, if he makes out of the fifth.

  37. TJ Says:

    Maybe one day we will appreciate the good…

  38. mets suck Says:

    good d big man

  39. R.Mac Says:

    wow just called customer service and they said i cant see the phillies…..ever……what a crock of horseshit

  40. Mike W. Says:

    jesus, getting nervous. way too many 3-0 counts goin on.

  41. that guy Says:

    When did Carlos Beltran turn into Barry Bonds of last year? Why does he play the game like he is 42 yrs old. I think the Muts pay that dude 20 million bucks a year. He is a real trash pile.

  42. mets suck Says:

    kendirck is on pace for 5 innings

  43. TJ Says:

    Thats what I was talking about in reference to them being poison to him. The Mets are very disciplined and they will work a pitcher like KK early.

  44. mets suck Says:

    expample a why the muts gm is a smart man

  45. mets suck Says:

    beltran, delgado, schoenweiss, sticking with heilman and felicaniano i mean how much smarter can this guy get.

  46. TJ Says:

    That is something rare, Howard drawing a walk.

  47. N. Cacalacky Phils Phan Says:

    R.Mac, that sucks you cant get the MLB.TV because you live too close? Damn. That sucks. Send your subscription down here to Charlotte, NC. I dont get to see shite…

  48. Fran Says:

    is gameday not working for anyone else?

  49. mets suck Says:

    its really slow tonight but its working

  50. mets suck Says:

    kk is really pitching good so far

  51. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    well howdy guysss

  52. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    howdy

  53. We choke and still talk shit Says:

    Yo waddup I liek teh Metsssss

  54. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    i dont but i love how you choke

  55. TJ Says:

    Buckner was paid. Just Kidding, maybe who knows. How immature are Mets fans? They are always so defensive.

  56. TJ Says:

    Utley comes in the clutch?

  57. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    i hope come on chase

  58. TJ Says:

    Reyes is like a little kid, chatting away out there how cool it is that they both are number 7. Hes probably so excited about that.

  59. that guy Says:

    Maybe one day Utley will get a hit

  60. N. Cacalacky Phils Phan Says:

    tell me about it…just hope he says something stupid like Rollins and then goes on a tear!

  61. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    one day

  62. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    cmon delcrapo help us out here!!

  63. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    ok i take that bac sorry delgado didnt think u would take it offensive dude

  64. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    here come the retard mets fans again

  65. N. Cacalacky Phils Phan Says:

    damn, a bunch of fastballs and hes gonna hit one of them…

  66. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    kk needs to get a few outs

  67. TJ Says:

    We need ash bats in the MLB, too many broken bats.

  68. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    tj agreed i saw a piece on espn bbtn and they dont think the mlbpa will allow it. Great job by eyre

  69. Tim Malcolm Says:

    In the Eyre tonight. Woo! And now Guiseppe Franco. Woo!

  70. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    lets go philthies lets go philthies lets gooooo

  71. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    way to go pat the bat

  72. TJ Says:

    What just happened, Pat didnt get out…

  73. Tim Malcolm Says:

    We may need that filter yet.

  74. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    finally go fat burell good job finally broke the streak of wat was it 10 consecutive strike outs anybody knows? any body?

  75. TJ Says:

    Howard is so easy to get out, first pitch offspeed, high fast, low offspeed.

  76. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    who cares he got a hit off your stupid ace

  77. Matt Says:

    howard has been putting some good at-bats together tonight

  78. TJ Says:

    Anything that doesnt start over the plate is OK to pitch to Howard.

  79. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    santana is laying on 25 million a year and wat u laying buddy? dont call our ace stupid wen hes clearly the best, stats dont lie!

  80. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    santana must be scared of howard hr and 2 bb

  81. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    look whos batting that lil rat victorino i cant stand that dude

  82. TJ Says:

    No GIDP Vic. When was the last time he did that before last at bat? Anyone know?

  83. 17 games to go and 7 game lead and shit its gone Says:

    i cant stand reyes and his -100 iq and his antics when he does something.

  84. SJ Mike Says:

    Whole team has been putting good at bats against Santana all night.

    And anybody ever notice, on both sides of the coin, the trash talkers sound the dumbest?

  85. TJ Says:

    Our divison lead doesnt lie, last nights game doesnt lie, the scoreboard doesnt lie. Sabathia is better. Shut the fuck up or go on a Mets board.

  86. SJ Mike Says:

    TJ, were you referring to me? I’m a Phils fan.

  87. TJ Says:

    That was an awesome stat right there, 1 GIDP as a Phillie ( 2 years ) for Werth.

  88. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    sabathia better? dude wake up!!!

  89. ball 4 Says:

    i hate this trash talking

  90. TJ Says:

    Im awake and Sabathia is still better.

    SJ Mike – no haha this other dude.

  91. Matt Says:

    actually Cliff Lee is the best pitcher in the league right now

  92. ball 4 Says:

    ok lets put it this way when cc went to the brewers they arent making the playoffs now hes there and he is like 8-0 and they are going to print the tickets now

  93. SJ Mike Says:

    TJ – Ok, cool.

    I haven’t seen enough of Sabathia outside of highlights on Baseball Tonight. Santana is very good though. He just hasn’t been supported well enough by the Mets.

  94. ball 4 Says:

    lee is the al cy young winner hands down and i think webb is in the nl

  95. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    really compare the stats since 20o3 and on

  96. ball 4 Says:

    santana has to pitch with worst bull pen in the division and if he was with the phillies he would have 15-18 wins

  97. Matt Says:

    I think your right ball 4, but the offenses really let down Hamels and Santana or you could mention their names in Cy talks

  98. TJ Says:

    really compare the stats since 20o3 and on – Look at stats put up by Sabathia in a stronger NL Central.

    I have seen alot of starts by Sabathia and he is way more dominant than I think. Lee has been insane this year as well. I like to catch these great pitchers when I can on extra innings.

  99. Matt Says:

    Eyre has been a really solid pick-up so far

  100. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    show me. 1 year doesnt mean nothing dude gotta keep that up for 3 or 4 years sabathia is not betta then santana ….santana would have a better record if the bullpen couldve kept the lead.

  101. TJ Says:

    Yea, only two hits since hes been here. No runs in 5.2 plus tonight.

  102. ball 4 Says:

    cc and santana are not good in the post season

  103. Matt Says:

    i love having 2 quality left arms in the bullpen. Its so much more comforting than last year when it was a patchwork of Alfonseca, Mesa, Geary. I hated seeing those guys against lefties.

  104. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Boy, what a beautiful thing to have two effective lefties in the pen. Scott Eyre is fantastic so far.

  105. TJ Says:

    Sabathia was AL CY young last year, who did he beat out for that? Sabathia is putting up better numbers in the NL right now and has about 50 more strikeouts this year and a slightly higher ERA that you have to take into account he was in the AL for the first half.

  106. Matt Says:

    Durbin in the 8th?

  107. TJ Says:

    “cc and santana are not good in the post season”

    Irrelavent, But they’ll get you there.

  108. philsphan Says:

    The Scott Eyre trade is looking very good so far.

  109. ball 4 Says:

    seanez i think because durbin, madson and jc are not aviable i dotn think

  110. TJ Says:

    Saenez then Lidge.

  111. TJ Says:

    J-Roll on base again, think he steals.. again? how likely would that be with 2 outs?

  112. Matt Says:

    apparently very

  113. TJ Says:

    Nice job J-Roll.

  114. SJ Mike Says:

    TJ, guess your question was just answered

  115. SJ Mike Says:

    I’d say Burrell is due here for a good one.

  116. TJ Says:

    And now Pat the Bat has to get a hit here. HAS to. Or he’ll be in the doghouse with the fans.

    Pat Burrell – worst plate appearence song? Say – John Mayer. How does that motivate you at all to get a hit, its so laid back.

  117. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    burell burell burell u leave your fans down again lol

  118. Matt Says:

    BIG half inning coming up

  119. TJ Says:

    “1 world series in 100 years” – Do you have anything baseball related to say or are you gonna gonna rag on the players of the winning team?

    Now this Taguchi sub in for Burrell makes sense.

  120. TJ Says:

    I have a bad feeling about Wright, right now.

  121. SJ Mike Says:

    I honestly never understood the “defensive replacement” for Burrell. The upgrades aren’t that much in my opinion and too many times has his spot come around in later innings where we could’ve used him.

  122. Matt Says:

    HUGE strikeout

  123. danny Says:

    Burrell’s entrance music is John Mayer? Get-outta-here!

  124. SJ Mike Says:

    In the words of Han Solo, “I’ve got a bad feeling about this.”

  125. danny Says:

    Hey David, wave good bye to your MVP.

  126. That Guy Says:

    Holy Shit. Taguchi and Seanez entering the game at the same time. What a nightmare…….TJ: THEY PLAY THE JOHN MAYER SONG WHEN THE OPPOSING TEAM HAS A VISIT FROM THE PITCHING COACH. Burrell has the hilarious “dirty laundry” by Don Henley

  127. danny Says:

    Maybe we bat Vic third tomorrow? Or J-Hole 3 and Vic lead off.

  128. TJ Says:

    danny – Swear to you. iTunes it or something, Say by John Mayer. He may mix it up with some Jack Johnson every now and then. lol Im kidding but when I was at the game my girlfriend knew the words.

    FUCK

  129. 1 world series in 100 years Says:

    my main man delcrapo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  130. SJ Mike Says:

    Thought so…..Delgado’s numbers were too good off of Seanez.

  131. danny Says:

    TJ starting vicious rumors about our beloved Burrell..

  132. Joshua Says:

    what was Charlie thinking?? you NEED to bring Lidge in for this spot. Dumb move on his part.

  133. andy Says:

    who cares it was 7-0 last night

  134. danny Says:

    Too bad our closer can never go more than 3 outs.

  135. TJ Says:

    That guy – you’re probably right, the only time I notice it is when Burrell is up though.

  136. Mike T. Says:

    there are more than a few mets on human growth hormone. delgado being one of them.

  137. Matt Says:

    if still tied do we see Carpenter in the 9th?

  138. Joshua Says:

    NOW he’s bringing Lidge in with teh tie???? what the heck is wrong with him? the phillies would not be in this spot if he brought him in for delgado

  139. TJ Says:

    About a batter too late Chalie.

  140. Mike T. Says:

    no, do not bring lidge in now. horrible move right here.

  141. Joshua Says:

    Mike T. where do you get your accusations that delgado and among others (as you in imply) are on HGH?

  142. Griffin Says:

    bad move, Chollie, bad move.

  143. gary Says:

    hell yea delgado thats how you do it baby!!!! mets coming back to first baby!!!!!!!!!!

    LETS GO PHILS!

  144. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Bad move not pulling Seanez after the first two outs. You can’t gamble that there.

  145. That Guy Says:

    Trust me. Burrell’s music hasn’t changed in years. They either play “Say” or “Three’s Company” theme music every time the visitors pitching coach walks out to the mound.

  146. SJ Mike Says:

    I was thinking Lidge should’ve come in when Delgado came up. Oh well. Just gotta get them back now with Howard, Victorino, and Werth in the bottom.

  147. Tim Malcolm Says:

    gary: You seem torn. Seek help.

  148. gary Says:

    lets go philadelphia mets!!!

  149. andy Says:

    Burell used to come out to holy diver in fact that was as early as last year

  150. Joshua Says:

    easiest stolen base ever.

  151. Greg V. Says:

    I was thinking the same thing! Once Seanez got two outs, Lidge should have come out!

  152. That Guy Says:

    Joshua: The rumors started when Delgado was seen rifling through Tatis’ locker with his pants pulled down.

  153. SJ Mike Says:

    Who pitches for the Mets in the bottom of the 8th?

  154. J-Man Says:

    Dame the Phils were cruising along in this game too…Seanez shouldn’t of been facing Delgado he already has big numbers against him and btw Delgado is definitly taking HGH or something…I still can’t believe Charlie is bringing in Lidge now,not a good move.

  155. Mike T. Says:

    yep, told you. you do not bring in your closer early. NEVER. let seanez go, what the fuck.

  156. Joshua Says:

    Murphy comes through, wow. charlies move is now looking even more worse.

  157. andy Says:

    Colsers…..OVERPAID…OVER RATED

  158. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    helllll yea babY D MURPHY!!!!!!! O IM LIGHTS OUT LIDGE AND I LOVE MAN PARTS

  159. TJ Says:

    Fuck. Good thing Feliciano is coming in.

  160. Joshua Says:

    but where do u get the notion that tatis did steriods? because he’s having a good season?

  161. Tim Malcolm Says:

    A product of yesterday’s taxing work. Seanez in an eighth inning, Lidge coming in with a tie. Not to mention Kendrick’s shorter outing. What can you do?

  162. TJ Says:

    And the trolls come in now.

  163. Mike T. Says:

    joshua, here are the mets on HGH:

    - fernando tatis
    - carlos delgado
    - david wright
    - carlos beltran
    - aaron heilman

    now, these are not implications, this is straight factual information. take it how you want.

  164. Manny Says:

    Ouch

  165. James Beale Says:

    why do you walk the guy with the concussion? It’s not like Lidge is some sort of dead ground ball pitcher

  166. That Guy Says:

    Can’t wait for Taguchi to get a key at-bat

  167. SJ Mike Says:

    Tim, it’s also a high stakes, high octane division matchup. As we saw last night, these things happen to the best and worst of them.

  168. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Meh. I’m not too upset if they lose this one.

  169. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA B SCHNEIDER BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SUCK IT PHILS ENJOY LAST NIGHT ITS OVER NOW BABY ENJOY THEM CUBBIES AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  170. Joshua Says:

    HOly Crap, 6 -3 NY. is this getting Worse ( or better if you’re from ny) by the minute…all with 2 outs.

  171. RiVLez Says:

    Nice play Utley.

  172. MIKE FLO Says:

    david wright is on hgh? and carlos beltran? really?

  173. Manny Says:

    I hope the Mets get overly confident (again)… you know what happens next

  174. Geoff Says:

    Charlie: its not usually a good idea to ask for a 2-inning save, brad lidge is a ONE INNING CLOSER. fucking idiot charlie.

  175. Joshua Says:

    Mike T. i guess what ever you say is fact. my mistake.

  176. J-Man Says:

    I swear Charlie sucks when it comes to deciding which pitcher to put in in which situations.

  177. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Oh, absolutely Mike. And so the onus is also on the offense for not coming through twice with runners in scoring position.

  178. RiVLez Says:

    This game doesn’t mean shit as well as last nights. This is coming down to the end of the season.

  179. NEPA Says:

    Where’s Romero to pitch to Delgado?

  180. SJ Mike Says:

    If we lose, everyone is back where we were yesterday morning. In a “virtual tie” with that half game difference. I’d be disappointed, but not heartbroken if they lost tonight.

  181. Manny Says:

    Yo take it easy on Charlie… haha… He probably made a mistake today, but he’s been very good besides that

  182. James Beale Says:

    @NEPA … Romero is unavailable, he threw 20+ pitches in each of the last three.

  183. Joshua Says:

    if the mets win, all that means is you can pretend these 2 games never happened…thats not really much.

  184. Tim Malcolm Says:

    PP: Why don’t you get outta here with that language. Thanks.

  185. RiVLez Says:

    Since when has Wright, Beltran, Delgado been on HGH?!?!?!? Tatis I would assume did something in the late 90’s. But seriously that is most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

  186. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    J MANUEL > C MANUEL

  187. Phils Phan Says:

    After tonight, Mets and Phillies are tied in losses. And, since every Mets fan sucks Cerrone’s scrotum, it must mean something.

    And–Pedro–want to comment on the bandbox? It tied this game.

    I love how folks complain about it when they lose and stay silent in (assumed) wins. What a whiner.

  188. MIKE FLO Says:

    even as a mets fan i can say its clear this game is anything but over……mets fans really need to relax

  189. NEPA Says:

    Tim, can’t you just delete that assholes comments?

  190. Tim Malcolm Says:

    “If the Mets win the division this year, Phillies fans will go back to the decision …”

    Seriously, SNY, it’s August 27. Why I wrote what I wrote yesterday.

  191. ryan Says:

    i don’t care how many pitches romero has thrown in his entire life. he needs to be in there to pitch to delgado. he probably throws 4 pitches and leaves the game. even if delgado walks or something, you could pull him and bring in a righty for the next guy. it doesn’t make any sense. you can’t let delgado bat against a guy he’s hitting .500 off of with 2 hr’s.

  192. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    DO U REALIZE EVERYONE ON THESE BLOGS WHO ARE LIKE O METS FANS PHILLIES FANS LETS BE CIVIL, HAVE A TEA PARTY, ARE COMPLETE FOOLS. I KNOW I HATE YOU, YOU KNOW YOU HATE ME.

    NEW YORK > PHILLY

  193. RiVLez Says:

    Tim why can’t you ban the asshole Met fans like PP. As a Mets fan, I have been going to this forum for some time and haven’t caused an issue.

  194. John Says:

    Ryan – its a league rule, hes unavailable.

  195. That Guy Says:

    I’ll have to give it to the Muts Trolls. After a taxing 24 hours of posting on here and searching ebay for “Taz” decals and floormats for their Camaro, you’d think they would be spent. But alas, they are a resilient group, powered by Doc Gooden’s leftover crack and Keith Hernandez’ leftover Amoxicillin from his latest Syphilis infection.

  196. ryan Says:

    i like you. even if you are a fag. i envision an america where fags like you and upstanding citizens like us phillies fans can live in harmony

  197. James Beale Says:

    I’m not taking a stance on the move, just saying that before the game Charlie took Condrey, Romero and Madson off the table.

  198. MIKE FLO Says:

    Phuck Philly your an idiot if you hate someone bc of the team they cheer for …your a real class act…. way to represent NY

  199. RiVLez Says:

    Holy Shit David Wright!

  200. Joshua Says:

    David Wright, Glove of GOld, i guess Mike T.s steriods work for him.

  201. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    OK IM GONNA BE CIVIL NOW, JOHN, IS IT REALLY A RULE YOU CANT PITCH AFTER 20+ PITCHES? IM NOT TRYING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS, JUST WONDERING

  202. TJ Says:

    That was a great play by Wright.

  203. RiVLez Says:

    If the Mets hold on to win this, this has been the biggest waste of a series ever.

  204. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    IM NOT SAYING I HATE YOU EXACTLY, I HATE PHILS FANS AFTER LAST YEAR ALL THE SHIT THEY TALKED, NOT ON THIS BLOG , BUT IN GENERAL

  205. SJ Mike Says:

    Gotta hand it David Wright, he just made up for his play last night when he fell on his butt….twice.

  206. Phils Phan Says:

    Guys:

    You realize that after tonight’s L (Mets’ W), the Mets are guaranteed to win the World Series. I read it on MetsBlog.

    It’s going to be a fun remainder of the season, assuming the Fightins don’t crap the bed in Chicago.

  207. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    P.S. IM NOT EVEN FROM NY

  208. RiVLez Says:

    PHUCK PHILLY: If you care so much maybe you need to go get a life. I’m a HUGE Mets fan but you know what the Mets fuckin stunk at the end of the year and the Phillies put them out of their misery.

  209. That Guy Says:

    I’ll have to give it to the Muts Trolls. After a taxing 24 hours of posting on here and searching ebay for “Taz” decals and floormats for their Camaro, you’d think they would be spent. But alas, they are a resilient group, powered by Doc Gooden’s leftover crack and Keith Hernandez’ leftover Amoxicillin from his latest Syphilis infection

  210. Tim Malcolm Says:

    We’re an open forum, so we don’t ban, but we take care of people when they get out of hand. If this guy wants to press the issue, we’ll do what we have to. Makes no sense to do it, if I’m him, of course.

    Switching gears, I loathe listening to these Mets announcers. Especially that high-pitched “outta here” call.

  211. TJ Says:

    RivLez – There isnt much influence a 2 game series can have unless someone sweeps but the Mets took a toll on our bullpen with a big series coming up.

  212. Phils Phan Says:

    PHUCK PHILLY:

    Did you see any of the crowd shots during this game–i.e., lone Mets fans standing in an all Phillies row, etc., being assholes?

    Phillies fans are not shit talkers. Phillies AND Mets fans are shit talkers.

    But, both also whine when the other does it. It’s annoying.

  213. RiVLez Says:

    Tim: I actually think the Mets announcers are the best in baseball IMO. Not just because I am a Mets fan. If you think they are bad, listen to YES. I would rather kill myself than listen to that crappy boring broadcast.

  214. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    OK IM GETTING TIRED OF THIS ARGUING, WITH ALL HONESTY, IT WILL BE A GOOD RACE

  215. That Guy Says:

    “I’m not even from NY”…….No Shit

  216. Tim Malcolm Says:

    To answer the question PP: Relievers aren’t necessarily unavailable after one 20+ pitch outing. However, managers have to make pitchers unavailable for at least a game after a certain amount of outings or pitches thrown consecutively.

  217. SJ Mike Says:

    So if they don’t pull this through, Lidge will be charged his first loss of the season then.

  218. TJ Says:

    Haha wow, Charlie really screwed this one up. Carpenter in for the ninth now?

  219. Joshua Says:

    TIM, the mets anouncers are one of the best in baseball. compare them to YES, ESPN, FOX and any clip you hear on baseball tonight.. Darling won an emmy as a matter of fact.

  220. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    so each manager has to automatically announce if the pitcher is unavailable before a game? sorry i just dont understand lol

  221. Tim Malcolm Says:

    You get some nice nuggets of analysis from the SNY crew, but just watching this season, there is a lack of research from Hernandez and Darling, and just from a personal standpoint, there seems to be a bit too much hyperbole in calls.

    I’d compare them evenly with the Phillies crew, which can be a little too stodgy and happy-go-lucky.

  222. Brian Michael Says:

    We’re an open forum, but I will delete your comments if they are obscenity-laced, so don’t waste your time.

  223. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    sj mike- beltran scored the go ahead run, and he faced seanez, so seanez would get the loss if im right

  224. RiVLez Says:

    I haven’t ever heard the Phillies guys. It would be interesting. But seriously YES has got to be the worst. If I was a Yankee fan, I would have to stop being one because I can not listen to that terrible crap they call commentating.

  225. SJ Mike Says:

    When it comes to announcers, I can’t stand Gary Matthews, who does color commentary like Captain Obvious. “The way you win games is you score more runs then the other team!”

    Kalas is more or less a staple. Wheeler and Mccarthy are good, but they are so smart that sometimes their constant tidbits of information can be a little much.

  226. TJ Says:

    All fast balls from this kid.

    Looks like his command can use some more work.

  227. Brian Michael Says:

    Who are you guys kidding? Ron Darling has the worst voice in broadcast, and Keith is a misogynist. I would hardly call them the best in baseball – 2 ballplayers cannot complete broadcast booth.

  228. ryan Says:

    nobody is better than harry kalas. ever. end of story. hate to bring up harsh memories but one of harry’s greatest calls ever was two years ago in the astros series when harry said “they’re all unearned but who cares”. even in the downest of moments that line made me laugh out loud. i dread the day harry kalas is no longer broadcasting phillies games. it will never be the same without him.

  229. Tim Malcolm Says:

    I’m not sure how it’s presented, but it may be via the lineup card. Managers will have to indicate to umpires which players are ineligible.

    I don’t know if ineligibility is enforced by MLB (I looked but no dice), but it’s there to protect pitchers (mainly) from overuse.

  230. Geoff Says:

    wheeler is a dufus. t-man and the sarge have great chemistry

  231. James Beale Says:

    It’s not a league rule, but managers will get together with their pitching coaches and determine who they have available to pitch every night. So, for example, if this were the last game of the season it would be plausible that even starters might be put out in the pen.

    Charlie is usually open about telling press who is and is not available before the games. That happened tonight – he listed Condrey, Madson, and Romero.

  232. SJ Mike Says:

    Ryan, Harry has been at it my whole life (and most of ours), so yeah, it will be weird not hearing his “Outta here” call. When he was out for that week and a half with the eye surgery, the broadcasts did feel a little incomplete.

  233. PHUCK PHILLY Says:

    oh i get it now, i was confused when someone called it a “league rule” though

  234. Joshua Says:

    how is ron the worst voice? keith is NOT a misogynist, he stated a rule he “thought” the padres were breaking. and there is a third voice, gary cohen. he’s been around since 1989.

  235. Geoff Says:

    it looks like delgado has been using keith hernandez’s just for men facial hair variety. he had a grey goatee last time. real grey.

  236. RiVLez Says:

    Brian I definitely don’t think so. I really enjoy listening to Gary, Ron and Keith. I think they make up a good combo.

  237. James Beale Says:

    Ineligibility isn’t enforced by MLB, nor is it official (in the lineup card or otherwise).

    Technically Charlie is allowed to put anyone on the 25 man anywhere on the field, and if he wanted to pitch Romero today technically no one could stop him.

    However; informally, that isn’t how it works.

  238. SJ Mike Says:

    I only hear the SNY crew when I’m up at my girlfriend’s in North Jersey, and the only time I watch up there is when the Phils are playing. I haven’t heard them enough to really comment on them.

  239. TJ Says:

    The availability thing is more of a manager’s preference.
    Average inning for Carpenter. Hope he can build off it.

  240. Brian Michael Says:

    Well, each is entitled to his own preference for broadcasting. The only way to tell if an announcer has transcended his team is to check the Hall of Fame for Frick Award winners.

  241. Geoff Says:

    this series looks like a wash. oh well. now its time to see who can make it through the stretch run.

  242. SJ Mike Says:

    Since the Mets have off tomorrow night, the Phils have the chance then to just even it up all together. Which would then make this whole division race even juicier.

  243. Brian Michael Says:

    Phillies win > Mets win
    Phillies win < Mets win
    Phillies win = Mets win

    what do you think?

  244. RiVLez Says:

    Now we can declare this series a waste of time!

  245. Geoff Says:

    both teams realy showed that niether are good enough to run away with this.

  246. SJ Mike Says:

    I’d say equal. We’re back exactly where we left off. We both lost in the same fashion each night.

  247. Jamie Says:

    Knew this would happen (series split). The real race is yet to come over the last month.

  248. Joshua Says:

    it’s like each game was exactly the same, mets lose casue they stopped scoring after the 4th. phillies lose cause tehy stopped scoring after the 4th.

  249. RiVLez Says:

    This is coming down to the end. I know it. It’s going to be an exciting September.

  250. fan Says:

    Phillies > Mets
    Phillies Mets
    Phillies > Mets
    Phillies Mets
    Phillies Mets

    Phillies 5
    Mets 10

    you tell me who wins?
    Phillies

  251. fan Says:

    i dont think so

  252. fan Says:

    wowowowow nevermind that whole thing got messed up haha

  253. Jeff Says:

    Met fan, I know, “why you posting here?” but its apparent that Metsblog’s comments section is perpetually broken, but this is certainly going to be an interesting stretch. Such highs and lows these two games for both sides.

  254. Grrrumpy Miner Says:

    A split is what was expected.Johan hung tough tonight and the poison pen did the job. Good top of the 8th for the Mets is what did it.Oh well,off to Chi-Town and Miami.Its now time for the Amazins to put the albatross fans to bed and start getting them into Dolphins mode.Good 2 games and 3 more at Shea coming soon. Good luck vs da Cubs.

  255. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Series isn’t a waste of time at all. But it completely confirmed my post from yesterday. This was fun, big stuff, but we’re going every day until the very, very end.

  256. Rich the Mets Fan Says:

    Along with their bullpen woes, their ability to bounce back from hideous losses is what I expected from this season’s Mets. You might say they’re the anti-clutch, but you cannot get any more clutch than that when you rebound.

    This will be a dog-fight to the end. Already lookin’ forward to next weekend. See ya then. LETS GO METS!!

    P.S. MMR Rocks!

  257. Mike W. Says:

    Have to bring this up again: Note how us Phils fans aren’t really over on Metsblog posting, even after last night!

    Why do you a-holes have to come to this blog and annoy us? It’s just incredibly lame.

  258. Grrrumpy Miner Says:

    Theres a reason Ron Darling won an emmy for his play by play,his collegues and other sports journalists felt he deserved it.Gary Cohen learned his skill from one of the best in Bob Murphy.Keith Hernandez i’ll give you.Radio front Howie Rose (as was Cohen) grew up Mets fans and Wayne Hagin is more a polished pro.BTW Ron Darling is well respected that he does Sundays at TBS with third generation caster Chip Caray.Also if you want to refer the Mets announcers as “homers”,just listen to the last Mets game of 2007.

  259. SJ Mike Says:

    From Matt Cerrone at Metsblog.

    “It’s a shame an opposite field pop up is a homerun, but that’s what you get when you play at Citizens Bank Park.”

    He said that in reference to Howard’s homerun. Didn’t that same thing happen for Delgado in almost the exact same spot. Why is it a shame for us but totally legit for them?

  260. Mike W. Says:

    Oh my god, Howard’s shot was a bomb. That was out at Shea. What a crock of shit.

  261. Griffin Says:

    as a Phils fan living in NY, I have to say the SNY crew is probably the best in baseball. Gary Cohen has become more of a homer since he left the radio booth, but the real stars are Darling and Hernandez. They are insightful and Hernandez is just funny. His knowledge of opposing teams isn’t great, but his willingness to bash someone on ANY team (Mets as well) is refreshing.

  262. SJ Mike Says:

    I posted that pop up is a homerun comment at Metsblog. The response I get from their fans. “Oh it’s a crime either way. Serves them right when it happens to them for designing that terrible park that way.”

    I happily pointed out that both were about 340 feet and would’ve been out a Shea.

    Then again, its like trying to tell someone the color of the sky is blue when they insist its red.

  263. Objective Met Fan Says:

    I love the SNY crew but you guys are right that Cohen has become more of a homer lately. I thought his call on Delgado’s home run was way over the top. At that point I still figured the Mets would lose the game. However, if you listen to those 3 every night they really do have great chemistry and are a great listen. It’s funny, Keith and Ron were both Mets and won a WS and they aren’t homers at all. They really just appreciate and applaud good baseball.

  264. Objective Met Fan Says:

    SJ Mike: You’re disproving your brethren Phillies fans’ point about how no Phils fans post on MetsBlog. Can’t we all just agree that it’s fun to go back and forth and the shit talkers are annoying on both sides?

  265. Phillies Suck Says:

    what a game! Just got back from shea, I mean Philly. It felt like shea with the crowd. Great game! Go Mets!!!!! Lidge back to reality!!

  266. SJ Mike Says:

    I read Metsblog very often and rarely post. I’ve said it early in this thread and I’ll say it again: it may be that I get cheesed about it more often because my girlfriend lives in North Jersey so I hear a lot of opposing viewpoints from Mets fans (and Yankees fans for that matter, and let’s toss in the Giants fans) who like to jump on me, my city, my teams, and my stadiums every chance they get. They like to go out on full offensive.

    I always try to defend and stick up for Philly in a respectful and constructive way whenever it is dissed. Sometimes something just makes me snap and I feel the need to stick up for it.

    I was posting over at Metsblog telling the obnoxious Philly fans to stop posting offensive and ridiculous comments. I try to be as objective as I can.

    But yeah, they’re annoying on both sides. I love getting into debates with the opposing fans who are more or less general fans of the game itself and not just their specific team.

  267. TJ Says:

    what a game! Just got back from shea, I mean Philly. It felt like shea with the crowd. Great game! Go Mets!!!!! Lidge back to reality!!

    But it didnt smell like shea. I would say there are about 4000 Mets fans at the Bank when they play so you guys are represented well and a come from behind game like this you guys are gonna outcheer a depressed Phils crowd. It was a good game but just not in our favor. Now the real race starts

  268. Geoff Says:

    I knew TJ was a met fan all along. Did I not call that when he and Don M teamed up against me in an argument the other day?

    in any event the series was a wash and the more resilient/less sucky team will win this division. and its a baaaaaaaaaad division. ill have more venting to do tomorrow, if i feel like it.

    peace

  269. TJ Says:

    Geoff, Im in no form a Mets fan. Im excited to hear how we should blow up this team tommorow, looking forward to it. Should we trade Hamels for Feliciano this time?

  270. Phil Thadelphia Says:

    > joshua, here are the mets on HGH:
    >
    > – fernando tatis
    > – carlos delgado
    > – david wright
    > – carlos beltran
    > – aaron heilman
    >
    > now, these are not implications, this is straight
    > factual information. take it how you want.

    Yeah… because some moron from Philadelphia says so.

  271. Phil Thadelphia Says:

    Cohen is a Mets fan. He grew up a Mets fan. He’s broadcasting on SNY… the Mets channel. He’s sitting next to Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez… Mets Royalty. If I wanted whitewashed, unemotional, uninteresting sportscasters, I’d watch ESPN… or listen to Tim McCarver. I prefer listening to someone who is as interested in my team as I am. If that makes him a homer, then so be it… I don’t really think that’s the definition of a homer, though.

    A homer wouldn’t point out the bullpen’s awful performance or fairly offer his opinion about a bad umpiring call that benefits the Mets or… well… the list goes on.

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