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Gamenight: Phillies (64-54) At Dodgers (59-59)
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Tue, August 12, 2008 09:24 PM
The Phils road trip continues in Dodgertown, in this second game of a four-gamer against Manny, Kent, Ethier, Kemp and Co. The Phils lost Monday night, with Kyle Kendrick blowing up and the offense not doing enough on the national stage to win it. No worries, Cole Hamels is on the mound tonight. Right?
Lonely Cole: Hamels hasn’t won since early July. It’s time for him to get a W.
No Clayton: The Phillies have never faced Dodgers starter Clayton Kershaw. The rookie has let up just one run in his last 19 innings.
How About That: Ryan Howard reached the 100-RBI plateau last night. He now has 453 RBI in 528 career games. Staggering.
Eastern Promises: As of the post, the Mets are tied with the Nationals; the Marlins are beating the Cardinals 4-3.
Roll Around: Jimmy Rollins is hitting third tonight, with Shane Victorino leading off. I can dig that.
Phillies: Cole Hamels (9-8) 3.35 ERA
Dodgers: Clayton Kershaw (2-3) 3.71 ERA
Gametime: 10:10 p.m. EST
Weather: 79, sunny
Lineup: Victorino/Utley/Rollins/Howard/Burrell/Werth/Coste/Bruntlett/Hamels
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Your gamenight beer: Any beer that calls itself “Entire Butt” is good in my book. But Entire Butt Porter might be the greatest beer ever created. Full of taste, it goes down like water that was magically sprayed by the gods. So godly water, really. That’s the general focus of the discussion. What do you eat with this? Something with mild spice. Something that makes you want to run to the beer and enjoy every last sip. Something … well, something warm, is the gist of the explanation I’m making. Go with beef and peppers.
Go Phillies!
August 12th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
My roomate has a theory that Shane Victorino is mildly retarded. hahaha
August 12th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
yeah shane is a little bit of a burnout ex-stoner
August 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
I think he’s a current stoner. I’m a stoner, so I can usually tell a stoner from a mile away. J-Roll is a stoner too.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Let’s stone the Doyers!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
I think there’s something mildly wrong with Werth. He’s not all there or something.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Only the nationals wouldn’t be able to score on 2 innings worth of Mets bullpen garbage.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
4-3!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
That was a no doubter.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Good, I can breathe now. And F*** Heilman!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Hamels sucks when he has the count 1-2.
That’s a hitter’s count against Hamels.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Brett myers is a stoner. That is if you consider someone who does copius amounts of crystal meth a stoner. I also heard a rumor that shane got his troat punctured by a coral reef in a boogyboarding accident.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
yeah im pretty sure rollins wont be here next year either. i just dont see it. myers wont be here for sure. i think whoever the next GM is will want to clear out all potential douchebags. those two are the biggest ones on the team..
August 12th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Brilliant job by Hamels. That is what happens when hitters swing at fastballs that should be hit.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Rollins is here for the long haul, don’t kid yourselves. They aren’t quite high enough on Donald to trade an MVP.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
wait until he tears it up at the olympics
August 12th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
I’m all about hating on our players when they’re struggling, but trading Rollins? Shame on you!
I wanted to trade Hamels after that 1-2 pitch to Blake.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
How about a slump busting 3 run jack. Huh Pat? Huh?
August 12th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
its really not that crazy an idea. a good GM could make it a genius move
August 12th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
As frustrated as I am by him, I don’t want to trade Rollins..
I JUST DON’T WANT HIM BATTING LEAD OFF!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
When does baseball start at the olympics?
August 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Isn’t that something? Kershaw, aged 14, works his way out of trouble. Way to go fellas.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
i agree there. no leadoff from jimmy. but manuel is to stubborn
August 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
at 5 am I think?
August 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
it starts tomororw
August 12th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
He’s no longer got the lead off speed, does he? Put Victorino in there and see what happens.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
You guys think Hamels finally holds a lead? I think this is the night.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
im advocating moving rollins simply because i feel he will do nothing but decline the rest of his career. those guys often do, shortstops i mean. there are only few vizquels in history, those guys are special and jimmy will never be in that class.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
How do you know he will never be in that class?
August 12th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
I think Jimmy is a special player. In fact, Geoff, you may be the only person who doesn’t.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
The Dodgers announcer is in love with Bruntlett.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
hes 30. its just a gut feeling. i think hes almost done. done being outstanding. maximize value NOW before you cant get anything for him
August 12th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
dude, hes no where near omar vizquel.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Defensively, I don’t know… Okay, I guess you’re right. I’m gonna go out on a limb though and say Jimmy is a better hitter.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
bunt dude
August 12th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
i want to free up some money to resign burrell, get an elite starter, and get a top notch outfielder as well
August 12th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
I don’t want to resign Burrell. I know, I know I’m crazy.
But I’m ready to move on.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
if there was something outthere id let burrell walk at the left field spot. theres a bunch of traah in free agency out there. theyre forced into resigning him i think. theres really, total trash aside from him.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
It’s too bad we don’t have any prospects ready in the outfield. It’s a testament to how crappy our system is that we don’t have any outfielders in 3 levels of ball and 3 outfield positions to bring up and play left field for us.
That’s 9 possible left fielders next year for us… And no one is ready, right?
August 12th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
This Dodgers announcer is great. Just a bad ass.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Hahaha no wonder why… It’s Vin Scully. I’ve heard that name a million times.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
golson is ready to play awesome defense and be a basepad terror, but he cant hit and cant get on base yet. thye might have to move rollins for outfield help because there burrell, werth, vic, and then golson and nothing else. myers can be moved for more pitching
August 12th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
And another pitcher has set a new career high in strikeouts.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Danny, this “system” gave you Hamels, Utley, Rollins and Howard. We have an above average farm system.
You’re entitled to your opinion but don’t back up your arguments with false statements.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
“We’re in the literary section of the Philadelphia line up; Coste the writer and Bruntlett the brain.”
Haha..
I’d prefer “Bruntlett the hitter”.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Haha, yea man. Scully has been around for like 60 years I think.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
i think its also bene proven that the offense isnt that good in reality and they need to rework it a bit and change their philosphy
August 12th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
hey gang…gettin here late. i see utley went deep and bruntlett knocked the cover off the ball there with two on. what else did i miss?
August 12th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Don’t we currently have a below average farm system… without an outfielder ready to come in for a departing Burrell?
I wasn’t referring to the past, but to the present. Who cares about the past bro? It’s what have you done for me lately.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
The fact that our system produced many studs over the years doesn’t help us in the outfield next year, Chase Mutley.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
You’ve missed a lot of good pitching, Jamie. Hamels gave up a 2 out rbi single to Casey Blake on a 1-2 pitch. That’s about it.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
oh shit
August 12th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
I’ve never seen Kemp play until tonight.. he’s gonna be something.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
wow, held my breath on that one.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
wow wheels is really flogging juan pierre
August 12th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Was that the right base running move by Pierre?
August 12th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I thought so.. yeah, Pierre f-ed that up big time.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
haha, get manny the hell off of that plate.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
wrong appeal manny!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
LOL, this is terrifying.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
hahaa, the home plate umpire couldn’t make that strike call on his own? Manny made like a 96% swing.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Hahaha yeah
August 12th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
kemp is awesome. this is so gratifying, hamels went up in mannys grill there. hamels velocity touched 95 there, way to go…up, wait, ramirez is too good of a hitter. cole threw the changeup, EVERYONE in the world knows its coming because hamels is predictable because he only has 3 pitches, reaches out there, boom RBI single
August 12th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
That was a great battle. Fun baseball to watch.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
He’s a amazing… the only thing you can do there if you’re Hamels:
Walk/hit him.
Switch arms and throw righty
August 12th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
hamels has improved his velocity this time out. again, probably because he ignored rich dubee and hid from him all week. clearly
August 12th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
We see the results of a contact-first approach: Manny just stroked that good pitch to center field. Of course, Manny is one of the best at it, but I cannot see why the Phils have to take so many pitches and made little or no contact on pitches like the one just thrown. They have to learn to hit good pitching and to take advantage of bad. But I have seen a few good things tonight, and let us hope that they can leave this inning and do some more damage.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
strike this guy out
August 12th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Ramirez and Blake make this line up nasty.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
WALK NOMAR
August 12th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Russell Martin looks like the dude from Major League 2.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Martin has me really really nervous here…
August 12th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
thats what i mean. get some fresh well-reputed hitters in here next year. move some of these guys out. jenkins, rollins, etc. and get people who MAKE CONTACT and get it in there for the base hit. i want this lineup fitted with all contact hitters except burrell and howard. make sure utley is a contact hitter again next year, make sure victorino learns it well in the offseason. those 4 can stay (howard, burrell, utley, victorino) the rest of the lineup is expendable to me, i mean really..come on.
all i want is great pitching and clutch hitting, is that too much to ask for for a fan of a team in a top 5 media market?
August 12th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
chase, thank god
August 12th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
huge play there.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
wow. utley has awesome reflexes
August 12th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Utley, you’re the man!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Is Chase a gold glove candidate? He’s made so many awesome plays this year.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
remember what he used to be like defensively? hes improved so much, working at his craft while rollins lets his skills deteriorate through laziness
August 12th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
chase has been TERRIBLE in the field this year overall. 0 chance for gold glove.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Geoff, why are you always right? Heh heh heh. I actually think that Howard is the guy whom they should jettison first, but you are so right to say that hardly anything but contact should be the focus. I want to them to sling balls, fight inside pitches off, beat outside ones the other way, crush easy fastballs. I know that I say it all the time, and that is because I have the remote hope that the team will actually take note of this one day.
Those fans really love Manny. He fits in well in L.A. But isn’t this one of Howard’s favorite ballparks, too? I saw him hit a ninth-inning grand slam right there at Dodger Stadium three years ago. We better see some production like that again during the rest of this series.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
and he still makes WAY too many errors
August 13th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Dodger Stadium has the best hot dogs I have ever tasted by the way. These hitters should indulge on them for the energy, but not too many.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Hamels 99 pitches struggled, was thought to be sore last week, but let’s pitch him 120 pitches. Why not!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:01 am
right on mg52. gillick has allowed too many whiffers in the lineup. theyve gotta clear that junk out. you have to keep howard and burrell because of their power and run production, and compensate for their K’s with contact hitters and especially a new 2-hole/leadoff hitter to fight for the spot with victorino
August 13th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Didn’t get the bat off his shoulders. How many times has that happened this season? Hitting does not happen with just the eyes. The last time I checked, it takes something called the hands for contact to be made.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Really Mike W. ? The statistics suggest otherwise. (as I suspected)
August 13th, 2008 at 12:03 am
He’s first in range factor, and third in field percentage.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:04 am
rollins andmhyers to milwaukee. myers to the brewers closing spot. in return, we get jj hardy, corey hart, and change. donald comes up, plays third, hardy and hart fill into nice roles. we use the money freed to up go after ben sheets or another top line starter
August 13th, 2008 at 12:04 am
How does that equate to him being terrible?
I mean “TERRIBLE” ?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:05 am
and they keep burrell here
August 13th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Yes Danny. Utley will win the gold glove and silver slugger. He won’t win the mvp so they’ll give him them 2. They probably want to give him the mvp, but every fan in baseball will call the sports writers out on being crack heads if they do so.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Mr. Durbin, I was surprised that they didn’t pinch hit for Hamels there in the 6th. I guess they’re hoping for a quick inning by him to get to Romero and your son. Let’s hope it works.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:06 am
chad durbin is up in the bullpen
August 13th, 2008 at 12:07 am
there was almost a revolt when they named rollins the mvp. even phildelphia writers were like: um, hes not the mvp, sorry
August 13th, 2008 at 12:07 am
I agree Phil… I think Utley is a near lock for the gold glove.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:07 am
He’s actually first in range factor by a lot..
August 13th, 2008 at 12:07 am
uh oh. I wonder if Victorino is hurt or something.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:07 am
STEFANSKI!! GO SIXERS!
Shit, what happened to Victorino….
August 13th, 2008 at 12:08 am
I was not griping about Hamels, but more concerned that we have a lot of season left.
All of the pitchers look a little tired.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Great job Cole. Let him go 8.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:10 am
it looks like theyre going to have chad durbin and romero be the setupmen now. they could use another 6th inning type to give people a rest every now and then.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Yeah, Danny…too many homers judge a fielder by how good they are by errors made. If they want to argue that with me then I will suggest to go look at Griffey’s fielding percentage. He’s top 5 best CF of all time and has a relatively low fielding percentage.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Isn’t Lidge available tonight?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Durbin/Romero are a good set up man combo for righties and lefties.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:11 am
hamels is over 100 pitches through 7. thats enough. nice job. let chad durbin and lidge handle it from here
August 13th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Aren’t pitchers supposed to be tired this time of year?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:11 am
Hamels did well tonight.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Phil - call me Joe, I am already 52, and Mr. Durbin is my father.
Glad Hamels got thru the innings with as few a pitches as he did.
LA and San Diego are about 7 hours from me.
If I was a wealthy man, I would be in LA or San Diego this week at the games.
I have to work, life can really suck.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:12 am
this guys pretty good, kuo. supposedly.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:13 am
Pitchers are supposed to be tired, but ours cannot afford to get any more tired.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:13 am
Yeah Phil. I know it’s hard to quantify defense, but I think range factor is pretty decent.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:14 am
when pitchers get tired they get hurt…dont want that
August 13th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Range, RZR, and +/-
Mr. Durbin, you are Chad’s father. You command respect.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Insurance would really be nice about now
August 13th, 2008 at 12:14 am
“Here’s a feast or famine hitter, Ryan Howard…”
-Vin Scully, the master
August 13th, 2008 at 12:15 am
WOW that was a horrible call
August 13th, 2008 at 12:15 am
The umps have been horrible in this series.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Hahaha no insurance! It’s time for a bullpen to do what they do.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Wow, this ump loves calling strikes a foot off the inside corner.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:17 am
well this is the big inning…lidge should have an easy 9th if Durbin can get through this one…i’d almost think about reversing their roles, but only Pinella would be so smart.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Joe, ain’t it cool? Your boy is gonna get a fat contract next year. YA’LL ARE GONNA BE RICH!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Durbin isn’t the closer…
August 13th, 2008 at 12:21 am
We are really screwed if Victo’s injury is serious
August 13th, 2008 at 12:21 am
We need a DP here. I don’t feel comfortable with Manny in the on deck circle.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:24 am
what i’m saying is a truly smart and ballsy manager would’ve brought lidge in for the 8th to face the best part of the dodger lineup. there might only be 1 manager in the league that would actually do it (Pinella) but it’s certainly worth thinking about.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:24 am
This isn’t good
August 13th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Joe, do you think Durbin will be nervous in this situation?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Lets go MANNY!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:26 am
this is a joke. a complete joke.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:26 am
Ugh.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:26 am
God damnit. This is gonna be tough to watch.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:26 am
I thought Manny was going to be charging on that one.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:27 am
What a p*ssy can’t be a man and pitch to Manny.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:27 am
He’s not idiot Phil… wait, yes he is.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Come on Chad!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Not too sharp, but at least hit the right guy!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Phillies suck…do you have anything better to do? The Mets almost lost to the Nationals today.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:28 am
I think the Phils are just cursed whenever Hamels pitches.
And what is up with Werth? He is looking awful at the plate…
August 13th, 2008 at 12:29 am
I don’t care if we lose. Durbin did the right thing by beaning Manny. That was neat.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Great…
August 13th, 2008 at 12:29 am
I’m sure Scot will blame Hamels for this loss.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:29 am
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Paul, that’s who Werth is, right? He’s a journeyman.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Mets trolls are such fucking losers. You know he’s sitting in his mom’s basement right now cheering for the Dodgers.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Sorry Cole.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Annnnnnnnnnnnd we have the bottom of the line up next inning and they pulled Pat again. WTF CHARLIE!?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:31 am
Danny, Werth was on fire earlier this year, now he does look like a journeyman.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:31 am
As to contract, I won’t see any of that. His wife wants six kids. College should be about 50,000 a semester by then.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:31 am
YES THAT GUY, HITTING MANNY WAS NEAT. I HOPE THEY NAIL UTLEY IN THE BACK!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:31 am
That Chase Utley sure is terrible huh Mike W?
WHAT A TURN CHASE! WOW!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:31 am
Close but not cigar
August 13th, 2008 at 12:32 am
Cole did what he could tonight. They probably should’ve hit Kershaw more than that. Durbin didn’t quite have it, but he found his way out with limited damage. Can’t look back now — HAVE to win this one.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:32 am
Can’t wait for the strike zone to get even wider in the top of the 9th only to mysteriously shrink in the bottom of the inning.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:33 am
Yeah Phillies Suck. I love how mature you are to wish injury on players. You don’t even know who Chad Durbin is. He’s better than every single reliever in the pathetic Mets bullpen, and I know who those shitty pitchers are. You should know who Chad Durbin is.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:33 am
Danny - Utley is a great fielder. I just think he is having a sub-par year. He has made some tremendous plays, and botched way too many easy ones.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:34 am
Why is everyone so sure that that is Chad Durbin’s father Joe Durbin posting on here? Did I miss something? Just wondering.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:34 am
The “phillies suck” dude has a part time job doing squat thrusts in the cucumber patch. His full time job is filling cream donuts.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Well, considering this has been Utley’s best defensive year, then I don’t know how he is having a sub-par year. Doesn’t make much sense Mike W.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:35 am
4-3 seems to be the NL East score tonight. Hopefully we’re on the good end.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:36 am
It is, NEPA.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:37 am
Last year was a better defensive year for Utley.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:37 am
Wait are you serious? We really think Joe Durbin is chad’s father? I thought this was one big (not very funny) joke.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:38 am
Phil, Utley has 10 errors, 2nd among NL second baseman.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:38 am
NEPA do yourself a favor and stop looking at fielding percentage. It really won’t get you anywhere.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:39 am
I have gotten that on every Blog sight on every team he has ever been on.
I am used to people thinking I am not who I am.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:39 am
He only had 10 all of last season, already has 10 this year. Plus, a higher fielding percentage last year.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Mike W. So? He also is #1 in range and still #3 in FP. Only homers look at errors.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:40 am
I think it is fun to watch the blogs and get to know what fans think of the teams.
I think I mentioned Detroit fans were so bad, the site pulled the blog for a few weeks as a reminder it is for fun. No death threats pleast.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:40 am
Phil - you are not reading what I’m saying. I know he’s a great fielder with great range. But he is making too many mistakes this year. God, some of you people just don’t listen at all.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:41 am
You guys have a good night. I will wait for ESPN.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:41 am
Only looking at errors is like only looking at total hits- what is this, 1987? If you want to go that route, he’s tired for third in field percentage.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:41 am
I’m not exactly doubting your Joe Durbin. I was just wondering if there was a concrete reason that I had missed for why everyone actually believes it you.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:41 am
Why does Jenkins go after the first pitch in that situation? Take a couple, wait the pitcher out…
August 13th, 2008 at 12:42 am
here we go….
August 13th, 2008 at 12:43 am
Mike, you said he’s having a terrible year and has 0 chance of getting a gold glove.
The reality is that he’s statistically having a great year defensively and is among the best in fielding percentage and FIRST IN RANGE FACTOR!
He’ll probably win the gold glove.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:43 am
So, you wnat your 2B to have a .1000 FP but a 2 range? The amount of amazing plays he makes to save runs from being scored should trump those errors, but that’s just me.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:44 am
I’m not only looking at errors! I’m just saying that the error count indicates he is making too many mistakes. This doesn’t mean he isn’t a great fielder with great range.
I stand by the comment that he won’t win the Gold Glove. You can’t be 2nd in the league (at your position) in errors and win the Gold Glove. I just dont see voters allowing that.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:45 am
i cant believe he hit martin on the foot…the guy isn’t hitting, the worst guy to walk. i’m dying here.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:46 am
Fair enough
August 13th, 2008 at 12:46 am
I’m sure voters aren’t dumb enough to look at just errors made. Fielding Percentage is a better way to look at it other than errors anyway. He is still 3rd in FP.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:47 am
WHAT a play.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:47 am
Ryan Howard sucks so bad. He got so lucky there.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:47 am
Nice play by Romero, but we’re losing this game.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Hey Tim, how’d you feel about the deja vu Coste bunt to bring up Bruntlett again?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Mike W.- think Howard has a chance at the gold glove?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Yeah, and then you have Jenkins. We need to get out of this inning since we lead off with our #1 hitter.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Can anyone see Torre bunting Loney with Bruntlett coming up?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Phil, I’m not saying voters JUST look at errors made, I’m saying it is a factor, and that factor will probably not allow him to win the gold glove.
Jesus Christ. Some of you guys pounce all over arguments without even really reading them.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:50 am
Phil, what happened on the play?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:50 am
I can’t believe there are still fans in the stadium, won’t they run into traffic?
August 13th, 2008 at 12:50 am
Ryan Howard will get a gold glove the same day Bruntlett gets the Silver Slugger and Myers gets some type of Sportsmanship award.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Ryan howard has a chance at winning the “aluminum” glove
August 13th, 2008 at 12:52 am
LOL
August 13th, 2008 at 12:52 am
No Mike W. I only pounce on arguments when people say shit like.
“chase has been TERRIBLE in the field this year overall. 0 chance for gold glove.”
And now I slit my wrists. I hate this team.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:52 am
god damn it.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:52 am
I am going to break the f-ing computer after that
August 13th, 2008 at 12:53 am
totally totally suck.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:53 am
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Phillies suck…go suck a dick you fucking troll piece of shit.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Phil I said that about 200 posts ago. You were directly responding to my errors made comment. Now you’re just reaching.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:54 am
If Pat the Bat was there he woulda gotten him. Charlie is a dumb mother fucker.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:54 am
It’s gonna be like this all season guys. No team is pulling away. Might as well fast forward to the last weekend of the season.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:54 am
Good point Phil, Pat definitely woulda had a good shot at him.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:54 am
this road trip is going to kill the whole damn season. At this point, I think Phils are looking at 2-5.
totally sucks. they’re killing me.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:54 am
There we go Either!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:54 am
I’m getting net nanny so I can block my internet from accessing mlb.com and watching Phillies games.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:55 am
I’m not staying up late for another game, I’m too old for this shit.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:55 am
Buy your tickets for the final weekend vs the Nats now.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:55 am
And now the lead is down to 1 game. The Muts will be in first place by friday or saturday.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:55 am
No, I’m not reaching at all. That statement you made 200 posts ago is what prompted me to start the argument. Don’t say stupid shit. Saying Utley is horrible in the field would be like saying Ryan Howard is a bad home run hitter.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:55 am
Enjoy the phillies bashing, I’m going to sleep.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:56 am
What an awesome hit by Eithier.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:56 am
ugggh… i’m gonna go play mlb 2k8, where i’m about to beat the dodgers in the first round of the playoffs. at least they don’t have manny.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:56 am
I can’t watch this shit on MLB.com. Vin Scully sucks, the Dodgers network sucks. is anybody else stuck watching it this way???
August 13th, 2008 at 12:56 am
Yeah Christian and the Fish will be in 2nd. Way to blow another quality start douche bags.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:57 am
What an awful offense. And the bullpen just can’t cut it without lidge. But boy, I am glad it didn’t go extras, since we had no bench players so Manuel could sub for Burrell. I hate a lot of things about this game. But god damn I hate charlie manual.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:57 am
mike w. i went to order tix for the last game, and it was sold out already. had to pay 40 for 20 dollar upper deck seats.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:58 am
I think the 2007 Phillies would have won this one.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:58 am
I liked Scully, never had heard him before. The Dodgers look like a fun team, like the opposite of our team.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:59 am
If I were the Phillies rotation I’d just refuse to pitch. Tell them you want to be traded to offense that can hit the ball with RISP.
August 13th, 2008 at 12:59 am
“Mike W. Says:
August 13th, 2008 at 12:40 am
Phil - you are not reading what I’m saying. I know he’s a great fielder with great range. But he is making too many mistakes this year. God, some of you people just don’t listen at all.”
Phil - as you can see, you were responding to something that I blatantly had since amended. I had about 3 more posts like this one talking about how overall Utley is a good fielder.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Yeah, the Dodgers have a good offense now and it’s just going to get better when Furcal comes back. They have a good pitching staff too. They also have a great coach.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:00 am
I really hate Manual about as much as the GMs hated Adam Eaton. STOP SUBBING FOR BURRELL IN CLOSE GAMES. DO NOT DO IT, and if you do, please get out and never come back.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Why the fuck was Taguchi in left field?I’m getting fed up with Charlie doing that fucking shit pulling Burrell out…But o’well it seems like were as bad as the Mets anymore,we get a quality start from our ace and can’t win (our bullpen ain’t near as bad as their though)…O’well at least football seasons starting soon because the Phils aren’t looking good.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:00 am
The only reason you amended it was because about 30 seconds after you posted it he made that incredible diving play.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:00 am
i agree, Mickey D, this team just doesn’t have the same drive as last year.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:01 am
I just want October 1st to come already. I can’t handle this stress anymore.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:03 am
There’s something missing and I think it’s Rowand’s spark. Charlie’s going to lose the team with pulling Pat and I’m sure Myers isn’t the only one that’s giving him heat.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:03 am
This team should have 75 wins right now. They squander so many quality starts. There is no reason this offense should squander a quality start unless it’s against someone like Brandon Webb, Johann Santana, or Jake Peavy.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Maybe they’re trying to get him fired and are playing like shit on purpose?
August 13th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Phil, not true at all. I made the first statement hastefully b/c I knew of his high error count, and this is a goddamn blog after all, where you immediately post your thoughts. Once it became an actual topic of debate, I thought I made it pretty clear how I actually felt.
As a law student, I am pretty into following through with arguments once they usually start, so when you keep going back to 1 post i made before we even dove into the topic, it’s incredibly frustrating.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:05 am
Any word on Victorino’s back?
August 13th, 2008 at 1:05 am
i can’t deal with the stress of watching these guys anymore - way, way too inconsistent and don’t take advantage of opportunities. They have 12 games in September against the Nats and Braves, but by then it won’t matter anymore…getting thru August is going to be a bitch for these guys.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:05 am
I swear Charlies days here need to be numbered and i’m not just saying this because tonights a tough loss,but he always makes dumb decisions.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:05 am
Watching sportsnite now, waiting word on Victo.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:07 am
hey Mike W, do we as fans have any legal recourse to sue the Phillies owners for being douchebags?
August 13th, 2008 at 1:07 am
Georgie - I think that’s covered next year. I’ll get back to you.