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	<title>Comments on: Hamels Ineffective In Loss To Cardinals</title>
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		<title>By: Lewisauce</title>
		<link>http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/hamels-ineffective-in-loss-to-cardinals/comment-page-1/#comment-24054</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewisauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on Phil&#039;s side here. Hamels is our No. 1, and he is and will continue to be a No. 1. Phil&#039;s analysis of his losses/no decisions is, imho, accurate (i.e. not his fault).

The problem right now with Hamels is that he is not following through on his pitches. Watch (if you have a DVR or something) Friday night&#039;s game. His left hand at the end of his delivery is at his hip. It SHOULD be down around his knee (or even ankle). When he finishes at his hip, he&#039;s also releasing higher in the delivery, and his pitches are coming in high. And we all know that high, hanging pitches will get salamied by good hitters.

He&#039;s prone to this even in his good starts (that&#039;s why Chooch adopted the Tony Pena-style squat, to get him to try to keep it down).

He&#039;s not hurt, and he is a Hall-of-Fame-potential pitcher. I&#039;m not a pitching coach, but if he concentrates on his follow-through in his delivery, he should be able to keep the ball down more. This will eliminate the dingers and make any slider/change-up pitches far more effective.

Just my couple of cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on Phil&#8217;s side here. Hamels is our No. 1, and he is and will continue to be a No. 1. Phil&#8217;s analysis of his losses/no decisions is, imho, accurate (i.e. not his fault).</p>
<p>The problem right now with Hamels is that he is not following through on his pitches. Watch (if you have a DVR or something) Friday night&#8217;s game. His left hand at the end of his delivery is at his hip. It SHOULD be down around his knee (or even ankle). When he finishes at his hip, he&#8217;s also releasing higher in the delivery, and his pitches are coming in high. And we all know that high, hanging pitches will get salamied by good hitters.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s prone to this even in his good starts (that&#8217;s why Chooch adopted the Tony Pena-style squat, to get him to try to keep it down).</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not hurt, and he is a Hall-of-Fame-potential pitcher. I&#8217;m not a pitching coach, but if he concentrates on his follow-through in his delivery, he should be able to keep the ball down more. This will eliminate the dingers and make any slider/change-up pitches far more effective.</p>
<p>Just my couple of cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Scot, Sabathia and Sheets lost to the Cubs last week in huge games.  Are they awful pitchers too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Scot, Sabathia and Sheets lost to the Cubs last week in huge games.  Are they awful pitchers too?</p>
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		<title>By: scot</title>
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		<dc:creator>scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, it isn&#039;t about the number of home runs you give up as much as it is when you give them up. Game tying and lead giving home runs are a whole different story than giving up a solo blast when having a 3 or 4-1 lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, it isn&#8217;t about the number of home runs you give up as much as it is when you give them up. Game tying and lead giving home runs are a whole different story than giving up a solo blast when having a 3 or 4-1 lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Geoff, Santana does have a nasty slider, but it can only be effective to lefties.  Hamels actually struggles more against lefties than righties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Geoff, Santana does have a nasty slider, but it can only be effective to lefties.  Hamels actually struggles more against lefties than righties.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i personally feel that hamels will be complete when he throws more curves and develops another pitch.  he is a little predictable and good hitters, if theyre not behind in the counts, wont swing at the changeup.  theyll force him to spot the fastball on the corners.  his fastball is the pitch that gets jacked the most.  i wonder what his slider looks like and if he has ever tried to throw one. santana has a really good slider and i think that hamels would benefit form learning one in the offseason just as kendrick would complete himself with an improved changeup.  

i still think they need to replace rich dubee or the strength coach.  i think ive found enough recent evidence that when starters come here under their guidance their velocity drops.  you can tell lidge doesnt listen to dubee at all because he doesnt need to be coached.  closers get annoyed when coaches try to do that anyway. you think anyone EVER talks to papelbon out there? that guy is a wild-eyes flamethrowing lunatic.  his splitter is as good or better than rich hardens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i personally feel that hamels will be complete when he throws more curves and develops another pitch.  he is a little predictable and good hitters, if theyre not behind in the counts, wont swing at the changeup.  theyll force him to spot the fastball on the corners.  his fastball is the pitch that gets jacked the most.  i wonder what his slider looks like and if he has ever tried to throw one. santana has a really good slider and i think that hamels would benefit form learning one in the offseason just as kendrick would complete himself with an improved changeup.  </p>
<p>i still think they need to replace rich dubee or the strength coach.  i think ive found enough recent evidence that when starters come here under their guidance their velocity drops.  you can tell lidge doesnt listen to dubee at all because he doesnt need to be coached.  closers get annoyed when coaches try to do that anyway. you think anyone EVER talks to papelbon out there? that guy is a wild-eyes flamethrowing lunatic.  his splitter is as good or better than rich hardens.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Santana gives up a ton of homers too.  Even when he won cy young awards.  A lot of lefty change up pitchers do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santana gives up a ton of homers too.  Even when he won cy young awards.  A lot of lefty change up pitchers do.</p>
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		<title>By: scot</title>
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		<dc:creator>scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may think I wasn&#039;t right, but I did predict the outcome and Hamels giving up the home runs. That&#039;s just part of the expertise that I bring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may think I wasn&#8217;t right, but I did predict the outcome and Hamels giving up the home runs. That&#8217;s just part of the expertise that I bring.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night you were right, a few weeks ago when he allowed 2 earned runs in 8 innings you weren&#039;t right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night you were right, a few weeks ago when he allowed 2 earned runs in 8 innings you weren&#8217;t right.</p>
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		<title>By: scot</title>
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		<dc:creator>scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well look at that, I did. My mistake. I&#039;ll rephrase that as a collassal disappointment, as I have been saying for the past 2 weeks in games that matter. And then he just keeps going out and proving me right like he did last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well look at that, I did. My mistake. I&#8217;ll rephrase that as a collassal disappointment, as I have been saying for the past 2 weeks in games that matter. And then he just keeps going out and proving me right like he did last night.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when I said I&#039;m with you I was being sarcastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when I said I&#8217;m with you I was being sarcastic.</p>
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