Comments on: The Case Of The Late-Innings Reliever http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/ More than a blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:59:49 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Whisky Priest http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33729 Whisky Priest Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:48:41 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33729 I think Cole has proven he can go deep, and he wasn't in any danger. Granted, he's got a lot of innings on him so far this year, but the bullpen clearly needs a rest. I think Cole has proven he can go deep, and he wasn’t in any danger. Granted, he’s got a lot of innings on him so far this year, but the bullpen clearly needs a rest.

]]> By: J. Thomas http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33646 J. Thomas Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:12:27 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33646 Do you think we will live long enough to see a Manager discard the 'Manager's Bible'? More important than bringing in the right relief pitcher is to know when and when not to relieve. There was a time when the 'Bible' said you left your starter with a lead go until he put the tying run on first after the 6th inning. No concern about whether he had thrown 90 pitches or 100.. and if you had a young, healthy pitcher..150. If Charlie would have thrown the 'Bible' away tonight, Cole might have won..or maybe not; makes no difference. 100 pitches...Set up Man(men) Closer. seems to be the way of baseball life..and death. Do you think we will live long enough to see a Manager discard the ‘Manager’s Bible’? More important than bringing in the right relief pitcher is to know when and when not to relieve. There was a time when the ‘Bible’ said you left your starter with a lead go until he put the tying run on first after the 6th inning. No concern about whether he had thrown 90 pitches or 100.. and if you had a young, healthy pitcher..150.

If Charlie would have thrown the ‘Bible’ away tonight, Cole might have won..or maybe not; makes no difference.

100 pitches…Set up Man(men) Closer. seems to be the way of baseball life..and death.

]]> By: rocky http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33515 rocky Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:57:23 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33515 The way it was explain to me was the phillies offered Hamels a certain amount.When he refused to sign the contract they renew him at a lesser amount. Last year howard was offered ninehundred thousand. He wouldn't sign that contract and was renew at less for not signing the deal.Sorry for the grammer. The way it was explain to me was the phillies offered Hamels a certain amount.When he refused to sign the contract they renew him at a lesser amount. Last year howard was offered ninehundred thousand. He wouldn’t sign that contract and was renew at less for not signing the deal.Sorry for the grammer.

]]> By: Jamie http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33491 Jamie Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:22:24 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33491 No problem Sean. No problem Sean.

]]> By: Sean http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33466 Sean Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:58:32 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33466 Jamie thank you so much for explaining that! Jamie thank you so much for explaining that!

]]> By: Jamie http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33458 Jamie Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:45:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33458 rocky, part of the problem is your grammar in those posts are atrocious. What does "he refused to sign for the amount the phillies offered and they renew him at seventy thousand dollars less the same with howard last year he was renew at one hundred thousand dollars less because he felt they were low balling him.the year on howard was last season not this year." mean? Hamels is NOT eligible for arbitration and has to play on a tendered contract - whatever the Phils decide to pay him. Howard is different, because he IS arbitration eligible. He had the artibrator decide his salary this year. Maybe you and I are on the same page, your posts are just confusing because of the way they are written. At any rate, Hamels et al are ours, and we should be happy for that! rocky, part of the problem is your grammar in those posts are atrocious.

What does “he refused to sign for the amount the phillies offered and they renew him at seventy thousand dollars less the same with howard last year he was renew at one hundred thousand dollars less because he felt they were low balling him.the year on howard was last season not this year.” mean? Hamels is NOT eligible for arbitration and has to play on a tendered contract – whatever the Phils decide to pay him. Howard is different, because he IS arbitration eligible. He had the artibrator decide his salary this year.

Maybe you and I are on the same page, your posts are just confusing because of the way they are written. At any rate, Hamels et al are ours, and we should be happy for that!

]]> By: rocky http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33445 rocky Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:29:30 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33445 Jamie ask any writer and they will tell you that both players were renew without signature on a contract. Jamie ask any writer and they will tell you that both players were renew without signature on a contract.

]]> By: rocky http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33444 rocky Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:27:45 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33444 Jamie he refused to sign for the amount the phillies offered and they renew him at seventy thousand dollars less the same with howard last year he was renew at one hundred thousand dollars less because he felt they were low balling him.the year on howard was last season not this year. Jamie he refused to sign for the amount the phillies offered and they renew him at seventy thousand dollars less the same with howard last year he was renew at one hundred thousand dollars less because he felt they were low balling him.the year on howard was last season not this year.

]]> By: Jamie http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33436 Jamie Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:16:40 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33436 rocky, what do you mean "Hamels took less than arbitration and wouldn't sign?" he did sign his contract for the year - that's why he's playing - and he's not yet eligible for arbitration. perhaps you're confused. rocky, what do you mean “Hamels took less than arbitration and wouldn’t sign?” he did sign his contract for the year – that’s why he’s playing – and he’s not yet eligible for arbitration. perhaps you’re confused.

]]> By: rocky http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/comment-page-1/#comment-33429 rocky Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:01:31 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/08/the-case-of-the-late-innings-reliever/#comment-33429 99 % of the time they sign. But Howard took less and wouldn't sign. and Hamels took less than arbiration and wouldn't sign because he feels the phillies were low balling him. I agree on hamels not on howard. 99 % of the time they sign. But Howard took less and wouldn’t sign. and Hamels took less than arbiration and wouldn’t sign because he feels the phillies were low balling him. I agree on hamels not on howard.

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