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Gameday: Phillies (75-62) At Nationals (52-85)
Posted by Tim Malcolm, Mon, September 01, 2008 02:00 PM
Headline: Take care of business in the capital
The Major Players: Chase Utley, Kyle Kendrick, Tim Redding, Ryan Madson
The Venue: Nationals Park, Washington D.C.
The Number: 1 game behind (Mets)
Jayson Werth and Co. put together a nice win to split a crucial four-game set with the Cubs. Now it’s onto Washington for a three-gamer with the Nationals, whom the Phils have beaten soundly much of the season (8-4). And if you’re watching this Labor Day spectacular, look for Phillies Nation to be covering major ground at Nationals Park. Today is our annual bus trip to our Nation’s Capital. As you read this sentence, we’re outside Nationals Park enjoying some brews, good food and a lot of good friends.
Mad River: With Chad Durbin going two innings yesterday, and Kendrick not one to go deep into games, Ryan Madson might see some time today. Despite recent struggles, 12 of his last 14 appearances have been scoreless.
Werth The Playing Time: Jayson Werth had a 7-for-13 series in Chicago. His 2008 numbers: 21 HR, 56 RBI, .529 SLG. All career bests.
The Redd Line: These guys have faced Redding a lot this season. Chase Utley: 5-for-10. Ryan Howard: 1-for-10. Shane Victorino: 4-for-11. Jimmy Rollins: 1-for-12. Pat Burrell: 2-for-10. Pedro Feliz: 1-for-7.
Not The Light! Part IV!: The Phillies are 18-22 in daytime.
Phillies: Kyle Kendrick (11-7) 4.83 ERA
Nationals: Tim Redding (9-8) 4.54 ERA
Gametime: 3 p.m. EST
Weather: 85, sunny
Lineup:
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Your gameday beer: As some of us drink properly on a air-conditioned bus and at Nationals Park, you can dive into Extra Special Ale from Yards, our own very popular Philadelphia brewery. It’s a perfect drinker for Labor Day — not too light, not too strong, but extremely tasty with loads of hops. You’d better be grilling today — it goes with anything you put on the grill, from burgers to dogs to ribs to steak. Do it up.
Go Phillies!
September 1st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Liking the lineup today:
Rollins
Victorino
Utley
Howard
Werth
Dobbs
Stairs
Coste
Nice to give Pat a little breather while not sacrificing power (i.e. Bruntlett or Taguchi)
September 1st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Tim Redding again, could be bad. Dont suppose this board will be alive today because of the trip.
Go Phils.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Nice line-up… Did the batboys hand out balls in the locker room for the starters to team the cover off?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Lucky bastards, wish I was there.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Awful K by Howard. Gotta drive ‘em in with only 1 out.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
NEPA, I’m seriously considering getting MLBTV for the last month. Do you like yours so far (or anyone else that has it)?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Redding giftwrapped a run there but we didnt take it. Second and third with one out, no runs. Why cant we get them in
September 1st, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Yea, I love it. I’ve gotten it for every April and September for the past 3 or 4 years because that’s when I’m away at school. I’ve heard the Premium MLB.tv is much better and worth the upgrade but it takes up too much bandwidth for my school so I’ve never gotten it. Highly recommended though.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Ben Sheets just left the game after 54 pitches through 5. He must be hurt. They still lead the Muts 1-0, and Santana has thrown 85 pitches through 5, so it’s nice that the Brewers will see the Muts pen.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
A friend of mine bought one of them last year - that plays several games at a time, and he said it was unbearably slow and choppy. I’m afraid of that, but I’ll give the regular one a chance.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Kyle Kendrick, Buzz Killer
September 1st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Right there Schmidtie would have taken care of business, especially in September.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Kendrick just sucks the life out of the game. He’s slow and bad, nothing worse than that.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
This is gonna be a long day for the pen.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
TJ, you aren’t kidding. Kendrick looks terrible. Time to warm up Eaton. (I’m kidding). I’ll try Happ instead.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
The regular has a crappy picture, but it’s a no-brainer for $15 a month.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Jamie, he was using MLB.tv Mosaic which is an option that comes with the Premium version. If your watching only one game at a time I’ve never experienced any chopiness, but I can imagine 6 games at a time would slow everything down quite a bit.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:39 pm
its been only one inning. Ill give Kendrick til through 4
Lets go Matt Stairs
September 1st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Thanks guys. I just ordered the regular, so I’ll see what I think of it in a few minutes.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Stairs is a lot quicker than I thought he was. I thought he was Burrell 2.0.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Well you should have known better… Canadians like to run!
September 1st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Kendrick was MUCH better that inning. On a happy note, Redding has already thrown 47 pitches through 2, so maybe we’ll get rid of him after 5 today.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Harris and Guzman with the J-Hole Special - first pitch swinging. It takes so much pressure off the pitcher its ridiculous. Ya gotta make someone like Kendrick pitch a little bit, he’ll eventually give ya something to hit.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Santana just balked in a run! Sweet-ass!
September 1st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Well, so far I’m not impressed with MLBTV. It’s been “transferring data” for the past 15 minutes and I haven’t even seen a damn picture yet. I’ve tried getting out of it and back in about 6 times, so maybe I just wasted $15.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Tim, Rob and the rest of the Phillies Nation Bus Trip are in left field…look for us on TV. Lots of Phillies fans here.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Side note - Santana just balked in a run. 2-0 MIL.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Jamie - I don’t know what that’s all about. Maybe restart your computer? No clue, but hopefully it gets going for ya.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Does Redding no hit us through 3 innings every time?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Tim Redding just shuts us down all the time. We did get him on the 3rd to last game of last season when Cole Hamels shut down the Nats. I was at that game and I think we won 6-0. But this year, he’s back to being Cy Young against us.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
warm up Eaton
September 1st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
We beat up on Redding one or two starts ago but other than that, nothing.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Okay, got it to work. Apparently there’s some sort of problem with Firefox, which is what I usually use. They told me to use IE7 and when I did, it works fine. BTW, I upgraded to the Premium once I got it to work - much better picture.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Yea, I never watch the games full screen so I figure the regular version does fine.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
I’m more worried about the Phillies offense against Tim “Cy Young” Redding than about Kendrick. If Kendrick can’t get past 4 or 5 innings I wouldn’t mind seeing Happ today.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
The best thing about this is listening to Don Sutton and his friends. I am privileged to have the Nats feed.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Wow, great catch by Dukes.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Luckily if Redding wants a no hitter, he’ll need 200 pitches
September 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Don Sutton makes me want to become a hermit
September 1st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
the Muts just scored 1 and Reyes flied out to end the inning with runners on 2nd and 3rd. 2-1 going to bottom 7
September 1st, 2008 at 4:18 pm
And the 1 run was on via a wild pitch, that series is gonna come down to which bullpen is the least shittiest.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
pull kendrick now please
September 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Great catch by Dukes, poorly placed bloop single by the Nats, and we’re officially in trouble here in the 4th.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
the old 6-4-3 would be nice right here…
September 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Man, the Phils are lucky that the Nats are so inept at bunting and running on the basepaths.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Geez Tim Redding has the Phillies hitless now through 4 innings…Charlie,please take Kendrick out of the rotation and put Happ in his spot.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
The Phillies HAVE to sweep this series because when the Muts play these guys, they’ll sweep them too. Okay, I’ve seen enough of Kendrick for the day.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
it’s clear now that Kendrick is the weakest link in the starting rotation. it’s definitely time to give Happ a chance as a starter again
September 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Uh…did the Nats announcers just say that Adam Eaton was once a highly coveted pitcher in the league? Was I asleep during those years?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
jesus christ. Kendrick for the Jeltz award no matter what the outcome of the game
September 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Happ should take over for Kendrick in this game, and perhaps in the rotation. But the Phillies gotta score some runs! You can’t win games when you get shut down by Tim Redding!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
its time to have kendrick skip a start. 6 runs against the nationals is completely unacceptable. we cant afford to lose any of these games against the nationals.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
haha, i’m watching the feed from the CW57, so luckily i don’t have to suffer through the Nats announcers
September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Oh Christ, Gagne is pitching for the Brewers, Mets will take the lead and then hopefully give it right back.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
It’s about time Kendrick go out of the inning…That should be it for him with him due to hit this inning.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Time to bid Kendrick ado. He has gotten progressive worse this year.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Now that I see 6 runs have been given up, I say give Happ a spot in the rotation. He can’t be worse than than Kendrick today against the Nationals, the worst offensive team in MLB.
But the offense has to come alive anyway!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I wish I could switch. Is there a way to switch feeds on the TV side?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Yea them Nationals announcers are by far the worst of any team…I’m happy it’s on CW today and don’t gotta suffer through them.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
here’s a link to the available feeds for today… http://www.myp2pforum.eu/mlb-baseball/26509-baseball-today-sept-1-a.html
yes, i’m watching using the TVAnts application
September 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
tim redding sucks too. hes typical national league slop. he has some kind of hypnotic powers over the phillies though. matt stairs needs to bring veteran patience to this lineup. he has to set the example as a veteran here.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
The Phils need to trade for Tim Redding. I am so sick of him shutting them down…
September 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
The Mets took the lead against the Brewers…God Eric Gagne sucks.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Didn’t see this coming: Delgado 2-run HR off of Gagne. Mets lead 3-2
September 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Stairs sure has been a great addition. You mean we don’t have anybody in the minors to play the OF? Why pick up a worn out 40 yo?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Give it a few minutes now before those Mets trolls come over here now with that Delgado homerun.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I am insecure.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Dude man, don’t be a prick and copy handles.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
I’m sorry.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
No you’re not, you’re trying to be a prick.
There a mod here?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
eric FUCKING gagne blows it again!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Nothing like falling 2 back after getting owned by the Nats. Ugh.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
These are the games the Phils have to win. Not get a no-hitter thrown against them.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Phils hitless through 5 now…Man i don’t know what it is with Tim Redding,but he has shuts down the Phils and he sucks.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
SJ Mike (3) says SJ Mike (2) is a douchebag.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
The Phils just can’t get Ronny Belliard out it seems this season.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Happ = Kendrick
September 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
aww man this is almost unwatchable.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
wtf… ok bring in Eaton now. it can’t be any worse
September 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
now happs been ruined from being bounced around from starter to reliever too much.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
CT, you never realize how much worse it can get UNTIL Adam Eaton comes in. That’s rock bottom.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
yeah, we’d have to be ahead or down by about 20 before I’d even consider dusting Eaton off. The guy would get rolled by the Hawaii little league team.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
this organization is pathetic sometimes.
they earn a split with the cubs, though they should have swept them, but then they come back and get destroyed by the nationals? AHAHAHAHA
September 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Jamie, that’s giving him too much credit. The Hawaii little league team at least practices. I think Adam Eaton would get rolled by the drunken dads at a company softball picnic.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
ok nice happ, no more runs allowed today please.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm
runners
September 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm
lol ^^^ yeah, Eaton’s line at the beer league softball game would be 3IP, 7 ER, 12 H, 4 BB, 0 K
September 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm
I think Eaton would eat everyone’s lunch here if we had to hit against him.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Mets troll alert! Geoff, there’s a lot of game left, and hopefully we can put some runs across. Redding isn’t going to throw 160 pitches today.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Happ > Kendrick > Eaton
September 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Fred, I would hope he would, but I dont know…I had a pretty good average in high school and college. But, since Eaton is getting paid millions to get out hitters for a living, he’s awfully shitty at it!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
wheres the mets troll?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Finally the no-hitters broken up.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Yea well he’s making 8 mil and you’re making how much?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
There goes Redding’s no hitter. now maybe these fucking Nats announcers can shut their yap about how great he is. I guess I can also start pulling the needles out of my eyes from having to listen to them.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Tough game for all the Phillies Nation Bro’s to attend on the bus.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
runnerss
September 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
A cool $6 mil per season Fred. Okay, maybe not. Are you defending Eaton for God’s sakes?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
What’s it like in the minors, when one of the teammates is earning ~8M and everyone else on the bus to play the East Lewiston Aardvarks is earning 18K + meal money? That has to be weird.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Geoff ^^^^^ there’s your troll.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
runnersss……..by troll you mean…?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Joe, I think the minor leaguers would feel even more weird because Eaton got shelled more in the minors then he did in the majors.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
danny, they’re probably self-medicating off of draft beer to get by. At least I would be.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
There we go. Finally a run.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
does anyone else here think pomeranians are the cutest little things in the world???
September 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
oh yeah. those mets trolls, half of them, are the same people that are cowboys fans but have never set foot in texas in their whole lives.
at least howard breaks the shutout.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
clutch hit by howard… who woulda thought?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
All of Eaton’s minor league teammates are probably rushing to hire Scott Boras thinking to themselves…”If this guy can make 8 Million per year, I gotta get my share too.”
September 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
WILL BE 2 UP BY THE END OF THE DAY
September 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Nice at bat by Werth.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Jesus, I just came in and turned on the TV- 6-0 no hitter going-WTF?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Don Sutton ruined the no hit bid with his talk before the inning. Way to go Don Sutton, assface.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
WILL BE HOME SUCKING THEIR MOMMY’S TITS AND CRYING AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
lol…the curse of Sutton
September 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
$7,958,333 to be exact but who’s counting? Yes, I am defending Eaton. I really don’t think he’s trying to be terrible. I’m sure if he had his druthers he’d be the leading candidate for the Cy Young. He did pitch fairly decent early on but had very little run support. But he what he is. Gillick signed him and who knows who scouted him. If you have a beef I would think it would be with the higher-ups who brought him on.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
WILLL BE 2 UP BY THE END OF THE DAY
September 1st, 2008 at 5:07 pm
I see the Mets fans are starting to show up…Their fans are such a joke.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Is this guy Peyton and Eli’s long lost cousin?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
WIILL BE 2 UP BY THE END OF THE DAY
September 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
well, here’s our chance to get this one back…
September 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Fred, I agree with you that he isn’t trying to be terrible. he just is. And I was pissed from the minute they signed himto that contract, because I was never impressed with him.
“This is inviting trouble.” - Don Sutton after Feliz is walked to load the bases
September 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Although my life is not extremely exciting, I have yet to be bored enough to go trolling on a Mets board.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Do Phillies fans go to the Mets message board and do this stuff?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
counter with pat, nice…
September 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Looks like Slumping Pats coming in
September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
no, we dont do this. wed rather rip our own team if theyre sucking then rip the other team. its fun to rip the other team, but not on their own message boards.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
staring at the balls isn’t going to make them fly Pat…
September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
I occasionally go to Metsblog.com just to see what they are saying. Mostly it’s entertaining to watch them contemplate suicide over their bullpen and Jerry Manuel, but I’ve never posted, nor have I seen many Phils fans posting. but, I don’t go there often, so I’m not sure how many do.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Danny, unfortunatley there are Phils fans who go to Metsblog and post like this.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Pat’s swing is looking gnarly
September 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
good job pat. dont do anything stupid, just take the walk-in run.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
nice AB Pat! patience at the plate paid off
September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
HOWDY BOYSZ
September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Good eye Pat.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Comment by chokeartistmets
2008-09-01 16:07:52
DAVID WRIGHT COULD NOT HOLD UTLEY’S JOCK STRAP………….
HOWARD MAY HIT FOR LOW AVERAGE BUT HE IS CLUTCH, SOMETHING WRIGHT IS NOT………
SUCK IT LOSERS………………………..
Comment by chokeartistmets
2008-09-01 16:15:28
METS ALWAYS GET A HIT WITH THE BASES LOADED…………….LOL
JOSE “NO HEART” REYES WILL DO HIS USUAL CRAP…..HE AIN’T NO J ROLL
Phils fans actually do this stuff too… It’s only a select few though but its obvious both teams have some asshole fans
September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Pat will get his walks.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Mets pitching had 15 strike outs…. september call ups are retarded.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
I’ve read Metsblog several times this year and have never seen any Phillies fans act like the Mets fans do here. That is probably because you need to register to post at Mets Blog.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
YOU’RE WELCOME METS!
September 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
i dont go to metsblog so i couldnt tell you. i assumed thered be a few, but i meant not many.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Philsphan, that dude”chokeartistmets” is at Metsblog everyday posting that crap.
The rest of the time, it is mainly just Mets fans talking about how the sky is falling everytime something goes wrong for them.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
“This lead is holding on by a bunch of broken finger nails”
-The Saw guy, Don Sutton
September 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Way to take one for the team, Coste.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
wow this is getting out of hand
September 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
YES! taking one for the team coste. ok, ruiz, dont do anything stupid.
manny acta is pissed, hes going to leave this guy out there.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
I love all these Don Sutton quotes. Wish I could hear that.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Man, the Nats are pulling a Mets bullpen here. I wonder if Happ went into the clubhouse to catch a nap?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
woah, why Ruiz? why not Marson or Golson?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Are you just as upset with Burrell for being ‘terrible’ during August? Or is it ok for him to be terrible but not ok for Eaton to be terrible. Burrell makes $14 mil per and only hits .258 with 30 HRs and 76 RBIs. I would think $14 mil would get you a lot more.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Don Sutton just called Carlos Ruiz a first ball, fast ball hitter who can hit it out of the ball park..
Anyone want to collaborate on a book about Sutton’s announcing?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
you still have to resign burrell though.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
theres not much out there thats better/cheaper than him. AND theres nothing coming up through the system unless greg golson learns how to get on base.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Can always count on Ruiz for an inning ending ground ball. At we’re back in the game.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
LOSING VS NATS LOL RIDICULIOUS
September 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Well, it sure makes it a game now. Would have been nice to plate another one or two though.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Mets fan, correct me if I’m wrong….but didn’t you team get swept by the Astros this year?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Delgados been amazing, what a big win by the Mets. Bummer.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
dude, now that we have marson up here, and IF marson shows hes good enough. i dont need to see coste and ruiz anymore. bring up jaramillo and go with a marson jaramillo platoon next year. IF they show they can do it. coste/ruiz kind of yknow suck a little.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
UHH THEY NOT AS BAD AS THE NATS LOL THEY GOT A DECENT TEAM
September 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
look at condreys splits
.333 lefties & .289 righties. thats terrible.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Why are they putting fucking Condrey in
September 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Houston is 71-66 …hardly a bad team
September 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Yawn…Fred, you’re still stewing about your man-crush on Eaton?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Who goes about defending Adam Eaton on a message board? For who, for what?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:24 pm
honestly, i dont feel bad for adam eaton. hes making MAD money. just give him the rest of the money you agreed to give him, and get him out of here, i cant dela with adam eaton anymore. bringing back adam eaton is UNACCEPTABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Nice play J-Roll.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
danny, you got me. Fred apparently has a hard-on for him though and seems to think that Burrell is equally as “terrible” and we should compain about him like we do Eaton. If he paid attention, he’d see that Burrell’s average is at or near his career average, so he’s really not having a terrible year at all - he’s having an average year (.250-.260, 30 HR). His RBI’s will be a little down this year, but after spending more time in the 5 slot, he’s had fewer RBI opportunities.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Hopefully the top of our line up will come through.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Condrey seems to have innings where he is great….and others not so much. Thankfully this was a great one.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Jamie, I agree with you. I think Burrell has done far more positive and helped us win far more games then vice versa.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Eaton has been one of the worst starting pitchers in baseball, Burrell has been one of the best 5-hole hitters.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Pat: 129 OPS+
Eaton: 77 ERA+
September 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pm
2-hit by the Nats is severely troubling in September.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pm
“Chase Utley is probably thinking…how can I extend this inning.”
Sutton’s counterpart, whatever the hell his name is
September 1st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Guys, go easy on me. Last year I was the best starting pitcher on the team after Hammels. And I just convinced Cholly to start me against the Mets on Friday. I always did okay against them.
I had a few Ks in the minors too.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
TRY GETTING A FUCKING HIT UTLEY
September 1st, 2008 at 5:38 pm
My dearest Adam, if you are going to reference yourself as last year’s second best pitcher on the staff, at least learn to spell the name of the staff “ace” properly. It’s “Hamels” not “Hammels”
September 1st, 2008 at 5:39 pm
So hitting .250 deserves 14 mil? All the trash you guys talk you wouldn’t dare say any of it to Eaton or Rollins or Ruiz or whomever’s face. Jamie if you were such a great hitter how come we’re not watching you today? Eaton would stick a fastball right in your ear.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Oh Fred, relax. Go cuddle with your Adam Eaton blow up doll or something.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:46 pm
SJ Mike, it this one of those “Bad” Condrey innings you were talking about?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Is Eaton pitching in AAA? What’s his record down there?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:47 pm
oh man, that was terrible. that was right over the middle of the plate.
fred..if the phillies had anyone else to throw out there theyd let burrell go, but they dont and everyone else out there is either more expensive or not as good as burrell on the FA market. or theyre old.
also, everybody knows the yankees are going to go after ryan howard in the offseason
September 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
David, he pitched in A and AA. His ERA was a shade over 7.00 if I remember. You guys want him?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I try to be consistent in my opinions. But when idiotic comments are made, i.e. drunken dads could hit Eaton, get real. Good or bad, these guys are far above our talent level.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:50 pm
i have to watch masn
September 1st, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Jamie, that was more or less one of the in between “average innings” for Condrey.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:51 pm
could tomko help?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:52 pm
These cameramen in Washington are awful.
Every ball that is hit, the caera is zoomed out as far as it can go and frantically looks for the ball.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm
The question is: Is Burrell willing to give the Phils a hometown discount?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Thanks for sticking up for me, Fred. Are you doing anything tomorrow night? Wanna go to the movies or something? Maybe get dinner too?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Fred, I think that’s a legit question that we’ll have to wait and see how it gets answered. I’d like to see Burrell back, but certainly not for $14-17 million.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm
SJ Mike, I was hoping it wouldn’t turn into one of his “really bad” ones.
Fred, I would hope you realize that when we talk about the little league team and beer league that we are kidding. At least a little. Eaton couldn’t even get 19 year olds out at Class A, but if we fielded a Phillies Nation team and faced him, I’m sure he’d look like Roger Clemens. I would expect him to. But at the same time, he can’t cut it in the minors let alone the bigs.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:57 pm
i think hes willing to give them a discount to an extent. maybe down to 10-12mm as opposed to 14-17mm. 2- 3 years 10-12mm isnt so bad. theyre clearly not going to give howard his money. howard is going get get a raise to 14mm next year. they wont go for that and wont want to go through arbitration again. hes gone.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Burrell I think would be best off at a 2 year with a 3rd year option at what Geoff said. I think that’d be reasonable.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Pat is going to want to get paid, but he’s also going to want to stay in Philly. If he tries to get $15-17 MM per over 4 years, I say no. I don’t think many teams would give him that number. If he’s willing to go for $13-$14 for a 3 year deal, or even a 3 year with an option year or two at the end that triggers based on performance or club options, I’d be a little more willing to do it. If he turns down a decent Phils offer, he may be Kyle Lohse. However, given the list of free agent outfielders next year, Pat’s certainly the top of the list, so his chances of finding a home are much better.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Fred, batting average isn’t a very important statistic for run production. Welcome to 2008 and… COMPUTERS AND ANALYSIS!
September 1st, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Geoff, I agree that Howard will want more than his $10 mil, but the Phils aren’t going to want to give him more than $11 or $12. Howard will try to get $15 or something, but I don’t think the Phils would be against going to arbitration again. After all, his numbers are lower this year than last, so they at least have that argument to make.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Why did the camera crew focus on Victorino there? SJ Mike, you’re right - they are crap.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:07 pm
So what stat should we look at? His career .258 BA? His career .358 OBP? His career .458 SLG? I don’t understand from those stats what makes him worth 14 mil.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:08 pm
but jamie, they go by service time heavily. in order to not get a raise howard would have to be doing much worse than hes doing this year
September 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I guess we’ll see.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I know you’re all waiting on the Mets fans to come out of the woodwork… Just letting you know we’re all here and waiting for the Phillies to finish losing. We woudln’t want to disappoint y’all by not showing up.
Good game for a long bus trip from Philly to DC. I’m sure it will be a fun trip home, too… Nothing like trying to get home through Labor Day traffic after a game like this.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:10 pm
“I know you’re all waiting on the Mets fans to come out of the woodwork… Just letting you know we’re all here and waiting for the Phillies to finish losing. We woudln’t want to disappoint y’all by not showing up.”
HAHAHAHA. an open admission that theyre all waiting in the foundation to come out.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Fred, it’s a game. none of them are worth the money they make, neither are the NFL, NBA, NHL, etc. players. But, in today’s sports world, they’ve let it get that way. Nothing any of us can do about it, short of not going to games, buying merchandise, etc., which is never going to happen.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:11 pm
You think we’d deny what’s so blatantly obvious? Even Phillies fans wouldn’t be dumb enough to fall for that…
September 1st, 2008 at 6:14 pm
I would like to compare Burrell and other 14 mil players. See if his stats hold up. Utley has better stats but makes half the money.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Well guys i want to come back just for he right price if they give it to me ill love to stay as a phillie seriously but if the mets offer me a contract am taking it ok guys dont cry please seriously dont the mets do have alot of money but no way am leaving my philly fans o BY THE WAY GUYS WE JUST LOST!
September 1st, 2008 at 6:15 pm
There we go… Great game. Way to show up.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I think we become too committed to some players when their stats could be replaced at less money.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Fred, pecota projects burrell as being worth 11 mil a year, eaton on the other hand 2 mil. Thats a hell of a difference…
September 1st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Ok so who can be signed for a vorp of 50 every year for less than 14 mil ?
September 1st, 2008 at 6:22 pm
I never said Eaton was worth the cash; just don’t understand the personal attacks against him. Besides I didn’t scout or sign him. Shouldn’t those people be held accountable?
September 1st, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Yes they should, and i’ll never attack him as a person. But at the same time, you cannot compare a player who is a horrible major league player to a guy who is far above average, and one of the best at his position in the game. But you are right that Gillick and Amaro should be held accountable, it was a shocking signing then and still is now
September 1st, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Rocco Baldelli, Vlad, Ibanez and Manny. That’s a starting point.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:26 pm
How do we lose a game like this to the Nationals????!!!!???? We’re going to be 2 back now. Not good. Not good at all.
What is wrong with this team? Besides the fact that Kyle Kendrick sucks…
September 1st, 2008 at 6:26 pm
How do you not understand the personal attacks?
A fan LOVES their team. Its a PERSONAL feeling. Someone who is supposed to be on your team to HELP your team who underpeforms is going to draw a personal reaction… just as a player who is clutch and shows you he’s helping the team draws from an equally opposite personal reaction. That’s just how it goes.
You’re not actually looking at ball players as human beings, are you? They’re cogs in a machine. They have numbers that indicate their past performance and set expectations. They sometimes make the right sounds… and sometimes make awful noise. No one cares if they hate watermelon, love chicken marsala, what their favorite color is (unless they’re painting their beard the wrong color to show team spirit), or how many kids they’ve got. If they get a clutch hit against a rival, you love them. Period.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Or since we have all these untouchable prospects throw Golson in there. Or convert Donald.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Sorry but I don’t understand the personal attacks. Just because you say it’s ok doesn’t make it so.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Manny is pretty much the same as Burrell now days, just FAR more expensive. Baldelli is ALWAYS injured. He’s missed basically all of the season this year and last, and the year before that etc. Vlad is ageing and would cost alot more than Burrell, plus his option is going to be picked up. Ibanez is not as good as Burrell, and to get him they’d have to sacrifice Marson, Carrasco or Golson. Burrell may earn too much, but he’s the best option out there.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Its ok to be confused, Fred. You’re a Phillies fan. It comes with the territory.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Donald dosn’t have the bat to carry left field
September 1st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Fuck off philthadelphia. Original name, btw. Don’t you like the one your mum gave you ?