Gamenight: Phillies (78-64) At Mets (79-63)

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Sun, September 07, 2008 07:19 PM

Headline: Go Phils: Sweep possible with win
The Major Players: Cole Hamels, Pat Burrell, Pedro Feliz, Ryan Howard, Johan Santana, Carlos Delgado, Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran
The Venue: Shea Stadium, Queens, N.Y.
The Number: 1 game behind (Mets)

Jamie Moyer was awesome in a big win over the Mets this afternoon. Now it’s up to the ace. Cole Hamels goes against Johan Santana in the final game of the season between the Phils and Mets. It’s live, it’s national, it’s big. Get on board, fans.

A Whole Lot Of Johan: Johan Santana has pitched 29 innings against the Phillies, more than double any other team this year for Johan. The Phils have scored 10 runs off Santana in those innings.

A Whole Little Cole: Conversely, Cole Hamels has just faced the Mets once. The Mets got four runs off him in just seven innings.

At A Car-Loss: Despite an RBI single this afternoon, Carlos Ruiz has just three RBI since July 23.

Spotlight: This is the Phils’ fourth time on ESPN’s Sunday Night Baseball in the last six weeks.

The Last One: Unless there’s a playoff rematch, the Phillies and Mets are playing their final game in 2008. Seems like only yesterday …

Righty Tighty: Righties in to face Santana. Pat Burrell is in left field, and Pedro Feliz is at third base. Jayson Werth hits third.

Phillies: Cole Hamels (12-8) 3.01 ERA
Mets: Johan Santana (12-7) 2.71 ERA
Gametime: 8:05 p.m. EST
TV: ESPN
Weather: 73, clear
Lineup: Rollins/Utley/Werth/Howard/Burrell/Victorino/Feliz/Coste/Hamels

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Go Phillies!

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368 Responses to “Gamenight: Phillies (78-64) At Mets (79-63)”

  1. TJ Says:

    I hate the ESPN announcers. Joe Morgan again? Torture.

    Go Phils, and pity all of you that counted the phils out. Here come the ‘other’ fans out of the wood work.

  2. Chutley Says:

    AHHHHHHH LETS GO PHILS….. and how bout those E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES today

  3. Philly Dude Says:

    Great win!! Amazing all the Met fans are gone now..

    If you want to go bother Met fans go to

    http://www.metsrefugees.com

    TROLL THEIR SITE!

  4. Mike T. Says:

    wow, mets fans are so ugly.

  5. SJ Mike Says:

    Gotta love how ESPN had to make sure they continued their love affairs of Tom Brady and Brett Favre up until the very last second.

  6. NEPA Says:

    As long as I don’t miss a pitch I’m fine. The less Morgan and Miller, the better.

  7. SJ Mike Says:

    Apparently Wagner was shut down after one batter during a simulated game today….

  8. SJ Mike Says:

    Way to deliver Howard! Great first inning run!

  9. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Big knock, big man!

  10. NEPA Says:

    That’s what I like to see from Howard.

  11. Mike T. Says:

    listen to the mets fans, they are absolutely clueless.

  12. SJ Mike Says:

    Come on, Pat. Gotta tack on more here.

  13. PhilPhan Says:

    get to an ace early, it often the only chance you’ll get

  14. Richie Allen Says:

    would be a good time for Pat to get a clutch hit

  15. danny Says:

    You SUCK PAT! Get out of Philly.

    Also, dumb job of acting on that 3-2 slider down the pike. What a joke.

  16. NEPA Says:

    I love Victorino in this spot.

  17. SJ Mike Says:

    Even though Pat struck out, I do like the hitter’s approach right now. Force him to throw fastballs in the strike zone because his changeup is all over the place.

  18. Joshua Says:

    That won’t work for long, becasue it’s not like santana is Olvier perez, he’ll come back in inning 2 with his changeup right where he wants.

  19. danny Says:

    Brady out for the year. I’m gonna miss rooting against him this year.

  20. Richie Allen Says:

    Hey were in the lead…Lets go Hamels…And we won the first game today…Eagles looked great…What a day

  21. danny Says:

    Maybe Cole will become the man tonight and make one run stand up.

  22. Eli Says:

    haha so glad bradys done

  23. danny Says:

    Eagles game was amazing.

  24. SJ Mike Says:

    Brady’s done? Where’d you hear that?

  25. PhilPhan Says:

    he was my first round pick in my fantasy draft :(

  26. PhilPhan Says:

    this is not good.

  27. SJ Mike Says:

    So apparently the only way David Wright get on base now for the Mets is catcher’s interference?

  28. NJ Says:

    what a crock of shit! The umpires are infalable during the game and accountable for nothing after.

  29. NEPA Says:

    Wow, this turned really bad, really quick.

  30. danny Says:

    I guess Cole will not be the man and make one run stand up!

  31. SJ Mike Says:

    What a cheap call! Jeeze, he was out at third!

  32. NEPA Says:

    Damn, missed call at 3rd. Ump blew it.

  33. SJ Mike Says:

    Wright was such a pansy too the way he tried to get that interference call. Has he been slumping that much that he is that desperate?

  34. CARLOS BELTRAN Says:

    PHILLieS COACHING TEAM EATS WAYYYYYYYY TO MUCH CHEESESTEAKSZ

  35. NJ Says:

    Bad umping followed by just a bad call, think we know which way the winds blowing… Is a long flyball going to be called a homer now if its ‘close’

  36. Gnomicide Says:

    That wasn’t even a close call at third. Not even close. Ridiculous.

  37. SJ Mike Says:

    That umpire didn’t even put himself in the right position to make a correct call. I hate umpires with huge egos (which is pretty much all of them).

  38. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    really guys really

  39. nate Says:

    where was the third base ump? why was the second base ump making that call?

  40. Evan Says:

    The fix is in

    I hate when a blown call has this kinda impact on a game, no matter which way it goes.

  41. Geoff Says:

    you know what? cole hamels is not a big game pitcher.

    when has he shutout or shutdown a good team IN A BIG CRUCIAL GAME? can someone remind me? because ive forgotten apparently.

  42. danny Says:

    2 run homer by Tatis on the way.

  43. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    can we get harry to all Phil’s games regardless of what network they are on

  44. NJ Says:

    bullshit calls lead to throwing bad pitches just to try and somehow get out of the inning.

  45. Geoff Says:

    NO EXCUSES! an “Ace” has to shut teams down and hes gotten beaten around IN THE FIRST INNING. unacceptable.

  46. SJ Mike Says:

    This game is going to be intense. It’s only the first inning.

  47. Geoff Says:

    that old man shut the mets down today cole, he had a nice win and a nice ouiting, why cant you do it…ace????

  48. NJ Says:

    Geoff not to be rude here but shut up! Saying Cole’s not a big game pitcher is like saying Peyton Manning isn’t going to be a HOFer

  49. danny Says:

    He’s not a big game picture! I was hoping he would become one tonight.

  50. Julie Says:

    geoff, that sounds like something a frontrunner would say. lots of innings left…lets go phils!

  51. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Hey, Cole has to get guys out, but he is getting squeezed a little here. (As is Johan.) And some real bad calls did them in.

  52. NJ Says:

    He’s not a big game pitcher because he gave up 2 runs on a good hit by Delgado? That after an arguement and blown up call

  53. NJ Says:

    ^ump

  54. Mike T. Says:

    geoff’s right. but in this case, the umps extended this inning themselves. not all on cole.

  55. Geoff Says:

    thats all well and good julie, except the ace just gave up 3 runs in the first inning.

    he has to be better than this, squeezed or not.

    now..go back out there and get those runs back!

  56. SJ Mike Says:

    Hamel is a big game pitcher. I was at the game last year, the Friday before we won the division. He had 13 strikeouts that night.

    He’s the victim of 1 cheap call with the interference and 1 awful call with Wright at third.

  57. Joshua Says:

    Wright was clearly out at third, that was a botched call…but how can you call him a pansy for catcher interference?? If that was the case, then the rule is he gets a base…philly fans need to stop whining and just watch the game.

  58. NJ Says:

    It is such a shame when you’ve got a great match-up and the ump’s are the ones deciding the game so far.

  59. danny Says:

    Good point Julie Rollins. Way to be.

  60. SJ Mike Says:

    Calling him a pansy because of how he reacted. Didn’t let the umpire even call it. He started down first and was almost skipping around, whining like “give it to me.”

  61. danny Says:

    I think Geoff is alluding to beating the Mets.. not the Nats dude.

  62. Geoff Says:

    precisely danny. he got outdone by santana early in the season and has conveniently “missed” the mets all season long

  63. danny Says:

    David Wright is a great player, quit whining about him.. LOL. Chase Utley would have done the same thing.

  64. Joshua Says:

    no, he pointed and the ump called it. and that’s exactly how a player reacts to such call, its exactly what utley or burrell would of did if schieder stuck his glove out too soon.

  65. SJ Mike Says:

    I like David Wright, but that reaction was just much to me.

  66. NEPA Says:

    The call was unfortunate, but Hamel’s still could have buckled down and given up no more than an extra run, instead he gave up 2 more, not good. Lots of innings, lots of outs left – lets get at Santana.

  67. Geoff Says:

    this is a must win game, no umpires, no excuses. no more bullshit, there are like 3 weeks left in the season.

  68. Mike T. Says:

    yeah SJ Mike, the nats don’t count.

  69. NEPA Says:

    Actually Joshua, Wright pointed and said “It hit his glove” or something along those lines. But I don’t blame him one bit, he’s struggling, doing anything he can to win. I’m all for it.

  70. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    why not have hamels swing away…..he’s gotta decent bat

  71. SJ Mike Says:

    My point is that it was a big game situation. It was a deciding game for the end of last season. He stepped up when it was do or die.

  72. Joshua Says:

    according to miller, rollins didnt predict the phillies to win the division this year? but didn’t he predict the team to win 100 games though?

  73. NJ Says:

    He made a soft prediction in ST loosely responding to Beltran

  74. CARLOS BELTRAN Says:

    OVERRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  75. Joshua Says:

    NEPA, he may be struggling but that has nothing to do with it. you don’t think utley would of said the same thing, the fact is, it happend, and the ump called it.

  76. NEPA Says:

    I do think Utley would have said something, because Utley does what it takes to win, like Wright did.

  77. SJ Mike Says:

    Utley never argues, complains, or says anything. He always has a blank expression. So no, I don’t think he would have. He doesn’t even take his base when he’s hit by a pitch until the umpire calls it and awards it.

  78. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    is it me or are the mets fans just ugly to look at? no eye candy whatsoever

  79. Mike T. Says:

    the umpires have handed the mets momentum for this game. something needs to be done about this when the game is over. the umpires SHOULD NOT have complete control over the game like this. absolutely horrible calls behind the plate today, and now awarding first base to david wright after wright makes his own call, and then the blown call at 3rd.

  80. Joshua Says:

    oooh, Utley didnt tag the base.

  81. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    Where the freak are the phillies tonight? Come on Chase….

  82. NEPA Says:

    Dear lord Utley, it’s not like your getting Reyes anyways. So a hit to the pitcher and a dumb fielding mistake, now we’ve got trouble.

  83. PhilPhan Says:

    is UTLEY HIGH?

  84. Joshua Says:

    MIKE T. Im sure the call with utley off the base was the umps fault also…he was CLEARLY on the base.

  85. NEPA Says:

    What is going on here? Is this like the twilight zone?

  86. Geoff Says:

    this is horrible.

  87. SJ Mike Says:

    Joshua, the umpires clearly botched that call with Wright at third base. That resulted in a run for you guys.

    Utley was off the base and made an error. Seriously, if you want to root for the Mets, stay with your fellow Mets fans and go away from here.

  88. Evan Says:

    This is getting hard to watch

  89. SJ Mike Says:

    Mental errors and bad breaks…..killers.

  90. brian Says:

    Step it up! DP here changes the momentum

  91. Joshua Says:

    and i agreed he was out at third. that ws a horrible call.

  92. brian Says:

    That’ll work too

  93. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    thank you lord

  94. SJ Mike Says:

    Great job getting out of that Hamels! That’s what big game pitchers do.

  95. NEPA Says:

    That could have been really bad. Good job bearing down by Cole.

  96. Geoff Says:

    that was huge to escape that

  97. Julie Says:

    phew…let’s get these runs back. who’s gonna turn it around? burrell maybe?

  98. NEPA Says:

    Haha, Burrell will turn around nothing.

  99. SJ Mike Says:

    Baseball is a game of karma sometimes. I say Utley gets it started, making up for that brain fart.

  100. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    oh no you didn’t…..im not gonna lie it’s on my ipod

  101. SJ Mike Says:

    Then again, maybe not….

  102. brian Says:

    werth looked terrible there

  103. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    Amen….ryan howard

  104. Manny Says:

    Jesus…
    I’m worried Hamels will have to leave the game in the 5th or something… How many pitches so far?

    HOME RUN HOWARD YEA!

  105. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Howard PWNS Santana.

  106. Geoff Says:

    40 HR for the big man. still strikes out too much but at least he salvaged his season

  107. Julie Says:

    Here we go! Good work big man.

  108. SJ Mike Says:

    Good job Howard! Way to get one of them back!

  109. SJ Mike Says:

    Hamels has 50 some pitches so far I think.

  110. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Boy does Burrell look lost.

  111. danny Says:

    Pat Burrell!

  112. Julie Says:

    Dammit, Pat…making me look bad. I bet Charlie is stress eating in the clubhouse. A whole pizza at least.

  113. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    pat looks like ass…..unmotivated

  114. brian Says:

    i think we’ll see more of stairs if pat can’t figure himself out

  115. brian Says:

    peter gammons wipe off your chin

  116. Geoff Says:

    they wont resign pat if he ends the year like this. or they might becuase itd make him cheaper

  117. Manny Says:

    Oh-oh

  118. brian Says:

    or not

  119. Geoff Says:

    theyre are owning hamels’ ass

  120. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    miller……please SHUT UP

  121. NEPA Says:

    Thanks Cole. You can not give up a run after your team scores. You give every bit of momentum right back.

  122. Manny Says:

    Hamels is having a sub par start…This sucks

  123. danny Says:

    Pat Burrell is the streakiest hitter I have ever seen.

  124. Fred Says:

    What is with Hamels tonight? Of all times to throw a stinker.

  125. SJ Mike Says:

    This is going to be a very long night….

  126. brian Says:

    hamels looks like shit, he sure isn’t stepping it up here tonight

  127. danny Says:

    Haha Goeff.. “They won’t, of they might..”

  128. brian Says:

    we sure don’t need an injury

  129. Tim Malcolm Says:

    I wonder if Cole will blame this start on his four-days rest.

  130. Manny Says:

    Who would’ve thought… the Mets can’t get a single run in against Moyer or Myers… And they’ve scored 4 already against Hamels.

    He is looking frustrated on the mound, man…I hope he gets his composure back

  131. brian Says:

    i was hoping not to see happ til tuesday this means we’re looking at kendrick

  132. brian Says:

    tim i was thinking the same thing

  133. Manny Says:

    Yea me too, brian. I’d rather see Happ start Tuesday’s game. Hopefully Hamels will sort things out soon

  134. Fred Says:

    Lot of hard hit balls tonight.

  135. Geoff Says:

    hamels has completely folded in the spotlight. just like he did in the playoffs in game 1 last year.

    hey cole, you cant to get that big contract? show up in big games and BE THE MAN here like youre supposed to be.

  136. NEPA Says:

    He better not blame it on 4 days rest. He should step up and say he pitched God awful.

  137. brian Says:

    they are just teeing off on cole here tonight

  138. Fred Says:

    Time to get Eaton up.

  139. Manny Says:

    Yo.. take it easy on Cole. He’s having a rough game, that’s it. He can still make it up and pitch a few more scoreless innings

  140. SJ Mike Says:

    It’s only the 3rd inning. Not the time to throw in the towel yet. That’s something Mets fans do.

  141. Scheity Says:

    He needs to go 5. But man, he’s getting sheeeeeeeelled.

  142. Fred Says:

    The gun is showing his ‘fastball’ is only at 86-88 mph.

  143. brian Says:

    doubtful, he’s thrown like 70 pitches if he comes up with risp they’ll hit for him this inning

  144. Geoff Says:

    yeah BAD outing, cole coming up really small. not good. need legitimate ace next season. for now, lets hope JA happ can stem the tide.

  145. danny Says:

    Mets fans and Phillies fans act the same way. End of story.

  146. Fred Says:

    I don’t like the lineup tonight. Why not break out the speeders and use the same lineup from the first game.

  147. Geoff Says:

    no fred, please no eaton. if they give up a few more runs then ill need to see greg golson and lou marson inmt he lineup.

  148. Geoff Says:

    i like the lineup in the first game actually. they got on base and fed off each other well

  149. SJ Mike Says:

    Not the way to get the pitch count up in that inning.

  150. brian Says:

    7 pitch inning? this lineup has 4 straight outs everytime…

  151. Fred Says:

    Come on Coste – run! I’m getting to the point where i don’t like Coste anymore.

  152. Geoff Says:

    coste has tanked lately

  153. Fred Says:

    What’s with Hamels fastball only reaching 88?

  154. NEPA Says:

    Hamels is purposely throwing 88 MPH so he can claim arm fatigue as an excuse after the game.

  155. SJ Mike Says:

    Good quick inning by Hamels. Gotta start rocking around Santana now.

  156. Fred Says:

    Seems to me Hamels is too nonchalant – doesn’t have that killer instinct. Maybe that’s just his demeanor.

  157. Fred Says:

    Still plenty of time – we’re only down 2.

  158. SJ Mike Says:

    Rollins just can’t lift the ball out of the infield this series.

  159. danny Says:

    Just make Santana throw pitches so we can get to the bullpen. It’s our only chance. Santana ain’t giving up no more.

  160. Fred Says:

    Can anybody please work the count?!

  161. Geoff Says:

    ok time to pull him. 5 is the magic number

  162. Tim Malcolm Says:

    So Delgado can hit Hamels, I suppose.

  163. Manny Says:

    Hamels is doing his thing now. Delgado is just too hot right now. I say let him pitch the 6th.

  164. Fran Says:

    he threw him the same EXCAT pitch

  165. J-Man Says:

    Man it looks like it wasn’t a good idea to give Hamels the start tonight…Delgado is so juiced up it’s not even funny anymore.

  166. Tyler Says:

    “listen to the mets fans, they are absolutely clueless.”

    - Mike T.

    Oh my ‘Gado!

  167. Manny Says:

    I agree J-Man…but who would’ve thought?

  168. Tim Malcolm Says:

    It was a good idea to start Hamels. These are the games he must win. Just a poor, poor start.

  169. Geoff Says:

    yeah delgado has grey facial hair, he has to be juicing

  170. Fran Says:

    santana is going to be pulled after 7 and were gonna end up winning the game……no worries

  171. NEPA Says:

    It was a good idea to start Hamels. You can’t predict the future.

  172. Manny Says:

    I had no idea he was leading the MLB in innings per start! Woah

  173. NEPA Says:

    Werth’s at bat here is huge. Gotta get on base.

  174. SJ Mike Says:

    The Mets have the ability to break out offensively. They showed signs of it in the 8th inning today of Game 1.

    Just the Phils gotta step it up and work Santana the way they did the first inning.

  175. Geoff Says:

    you have to start hamels, hes supposed to be man here. right on tim, aces win these games, and thats what santana is doing right now to us.

  176. Fred Says:

    Still he has to perform better than this. He’s suppose to be our ace and the ace wins these type of big games.

  177. Sarah Wayne Says:

    Ugh…pull him out now before it gets any worse. No point in slamming Hamels, but this has to stop.

  178. J-Man Says:

    Did you guys see Tom Bradys out for the season?

  179. Geoff Says:

    well, they need more than this from their ace. either hamels has to do it, myers has to do it, or next year they have to get someone else in there to do it.

  180. Geoff Says:

    by adding to the rotation and bumping everyone else back a slot

  181. Manny Says:

    Phils need to work Santana, just like Werth is doing right now. Santana needs to go

  182. NEPA Says:

    Yea, J-Man, that was mentioned way up in this post.

  183. J-Man Says:

    Oh i didn’t see it.

  184. Geoff Says:

    santana is cruising now

  185. NEPA Says:

    Does anyone else want to kill Jon Miller every time he calls him BelTRAN.

  186. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    can miller get off of the met’s nuts?

  187. Fred Says:

    Why are they warming Happ up? Guess he’s not starting on Tuesday.

  188. phl fan in texas(not by choice) Says:

    7th is our inning…..

  189. SJ Mike Says:

    NEPA, I was thinking the same thing.

    I remember when we had Tomas Perez, he would say Tomas PAY-rez.

  190. Geoff Says:

    you mean when he says bel-trAUn?

    yeah i hate that

  191. Geoff Says:

    im pissed that the saturday game i have vs the brewers is against dave bush. damnit! i wanted to see sabathia or sheets vs hamels

  192. Tyler Says:

    Woah boy!

  193. Geoff Says:

    delgado must be getting a roid/hgh IV in the dugout there

  194. NEPA Says:

    Why did they choose that point to show Delgado pounding two HR’s? Seemed like odd timing to me.

  195. Tyler Says:

    Dyin Hawaiian goes down!

  196. Geoff Says:

    along with tatis

  197. Evan Says:

    Why doesn’t the kid in the bullies commercial fix his wedgie before he looks up karate classes?

    No Happ? I’m pleased.

  198. Joshua Says:

    so why did they warm up happ if they are not gonna use him?

  199. Fred Says:

    Decoy

  200. Fred Says:

    Next they’re going to warm up Eaton as a decoy.

  201. Manny Says:

    Happ seems to be like Kendrick 2007 version.

  202. Geoff Says:

    thats how happ is advertised, but we havent seen enough from him to warrant that. its just hype. happ has better stuff than kendrick does.

  203. Geoff Says:

    maybe theyll try and fake them out with les walrond

  204. SJ Mike Says:

    Desperately need some base runners and some runs now.

  205. Geoff Says:

    cose needs to work the count and be patient and move the runner over here. also, hamels needs pinch hit for with a patient hitter.

  206. NEPA Says:

    Coste should have taken that 1-1 pitch on the arm. Get on base.

  207. Geoff Says:

    damnit.

  208. SJ Mike Says:

    Carlos Ruiz in this situation? Really?

  209. Geoff Says:

    why is ruiz out there? what the hell.

  210. Geoff Says:

    youve got like 15 guys on the bench right now to choose from in sept and you choose ruiz?

  211. NEPA Says:

    I really don’t think he could have come up with a worse pinch hitter there.

  212. Geoff Says:

    come on j-hole. send one into the gap

  213. Geoff Says:

    you know what? peter gammons makes me sick

  214. SJ Mike Says:

    Listening to Peter Gammons’ stuttering during his reports are awkward.

  215. Gplad Says:

    The second HR given to Delgado, given being the operative word, was purely a product of Hamels’ youth and arrogance. There was no reason to throw him anything remotely near the zone in that situation. I firmly believe that was not a location mistake. Hamels’ meant to challenge him. If we get to a post-season situation, this liability in his personal approach will have to be dealt with.

  216. Geoff Says:

    what it comes down to is hamels isnt ready to be an ace yet, period. hes a number two at this stage of his career. maybe a 1.5 i guess. on a championship team hes not the ace, bottom line. he will be someday if he doesnt blow out his elbow or something.

  217. Geoff Says:

    he has three pitches and he only uses two of them most of the time

  218. Manny Says:

    Hamels IS an ace. Give the guy a break, will you?

  219. SJ Mike Says:

    Hamels had a bad game. Sweeping doubleheaders are hard. I agree with Manny. Give Hamels a break.

    By the way, why Rudy Seanez here?

  220. Geoff Says:

    hes not there yet, when hes there, youll know. itll be very apparent. or hell break down completely. give him 2 years and youll be able to tell

  221. Geoff Says:

    however, delgado is definitely juicing.

  222. SJ Mike Says:

    Weren’t the Mets booing Delgado out of New York 2 months ago?

    And we’re fickle fans?

  223. Manny Says:

    Great job by Rudy.. he didn’t throw anything close to the strike zone to Delgado.

  224. Geoff Says:

    they were ready to run delgado out of town. im sick of philly fans and external media being so touchy about this. it happens everywhere, its OK to be like that as a fan. other cities do it and still win championships. deal with it. im tired of being labeled as frontrunners and negative. its so obnoxious.

  225. SJ Mike Says:

    Great, Santana is still going the 8th. I just don’t feel a comeback coming tonight.

  226. Joshua Says:

    Santana pitching the 8th, that’s how you do it.

  227. Manny Says:

    Random thought: I really want to know what Joe Blanton eats….

    Beer?

    I do wonder because it’s just weird for a pitcher to be so out of shape. He is a professional baseball player, you know.

  228. SJ Mike Says:

    Geoff, that’s pretty much my point. We’re labeled as these obnoxious awful people, yet there is no fanbase without sin. It makes me sick too.

  229. Fred Says:

    Late in the year, a big September game – your ace comes through in this type of game. That’s if you have an ace.

  230. Geoff Says:

    right on

  231. Manny Says:

    C’mon CHASE, get something going

  232. Manny Says:

    WERTH!!!
    Alright…..

  233. Geoff Says:

    nice werth

  234. SJ Mike Says:

    Good hit by Werth, although Bel-TRON helped a bit by lazily playing the ball.

  235. Manny Says:

    Bye, bye Santana

    It’s comeback time

  236. brian Says:

    come on big man let’s do something here

  237. Joshua Says:

    I guess, now with the bullpen in, its the phillies chance to hit the mets hard.

  238. SJ Mike Says:

    Mets starters against us all year has been like 2.50 ERA where bullpen has been like 4.60 something. Time to jump on this bullpen, guys! Gotta get get this back!

  239. Manny Says:

    Cmon Phillies…at least lets get Werth in

  240. brian Says:

    gotta hit for burrell here

  241. phillies hater Says:

    go mets!!!

  242. Georgie Says:

    I saw Cole do a sort of valley girl head shake in the dugout earlier, it was funny.

  243. Joshua Says:

    well, that was a nice outing from feliciano and stokes.

  244. Fred Says:

    A new pitcher and you swing at the first pitch. Put Burrell’s fanny on the bench!

  245. Girls Says:

    Geoff doesn’t like us. All he does is watch his 2nd place Phillies lose while blogging.

  246. Eli Says:

    burrell worthless

  247. brian Says:

    why not use stairs in that spot?

  248. Geoff Says:

    only an al-qaeda terrorist would make a statement like that

  249. AC in NJ Says:

    So many missed opportunities this year…

  250. SJ Mike Says:

    Regardless, we won 2 out of 3, which was very important.

  251. Fred Says:

    Well if you look anything like what’s at the Mets game it’s no wonder no one likes you.

  252. Georgie Says:

    That’s an ugly-ass bobble head doll.

  253. Fred Says:

    Yea but a sweep was there for the taking.

  254. phillies hater Says:

    Why alot of philly fans there?

  255. phillies hater Says:

    Nice try by victorino! He is a good player!

  256. Joshua Says:

    thats a product of victorino playing too shallow…i know he’s fast, but thats an example of playing shallow burning you.

  257. Victori-NO! Says:

    What Geoff? Make a little more sense, please.

  258. Manny Says:

    No. We need to win this. 4 runs in an inning. Vs the Mets. Very possible.

  259. CARLOS BELTRAN Says:

    phillies pitcher said bitch lmao

  260. Geoff Says:

    my point is, people that post under a bogus name and take cheaps shots at other posters are the lowest of the low in the blogosphere

  261. SJ Mike Says:

    And here come the trolls. Notice how nice it was when Myers and Moyer were owning the Mets.

  262. phillies hater Says:

    Probably will not happen.

  263. phillies hater Says:

    Mets owned the Phillies this year. Just look at the record!

  264. AC in NJ Says:

    I agree SJ Mike. 2 games back with 19 to go is certainly more manageable than last year. But I think the Phils got to go at least 13-6 the rest of the way to really make it work

  265. SJ Mike Says:

    Season isn’t over yet. There’s still 3 weeks of baseball left and anything can happen.

  266. phillies hater Says:

    Phillies are a good team. No question about that! But the Mets are just a little better. But the Phillies have kept it close all year so you have to give them credit for that!

  267. gplad Says:

    How is it that NY ends up with 2 days off this week??

  268. Manny Says:

    Ayala will get pounded

  269. Smith Says:

    13-6 probably is not going to do it. You are then counting on the Mets to go 11-8, and that’s just for a tie. They will then need to go 10-9 for us to win with 13-6. That ain’t happening. I see the mets going at least 13-6 with their schedule. Probably 14-5.

  270. SJ Mike Says:

    Just don’t go claiming victory in the division until you actually have it. Overconfidence can kill a team, just like last year.

  271. Manny Says:

    YEAAA… Let’s go Phillies

  272. NEPA Says:

    Well thats a start.

  273. AC in NJ Says:

    Hater – you got it so wrong. Mets are team with some luck recently, but no class. Let me tell you what is about to happen – you can write it down and check back here in 3 weeks.

    The Mets are going into their locker room tonite, after this one game, and will celebrate…CELEBRATE as if they won something. Not all the players, but the idiots like Reyes, Beltran, Reyes, Easley, Reyes and Delgado. (I said Reyes 3 times on purpose – there is no shallower player in baseball). “Oh we got the monkey off our backs, etc.” They’ll treat it like the won a playoff game. Meanwhile, the Phils will start a new winning streak…5 of 7, while the Mets will start losing…to the Nationals, to the Braves.

    We’ll see come the last week of the season, when the Mets have to beat the Cubs and Marlins.

  274. SJ Mike Says:

    Dobbs, man. One swing doesn’t tie it. Why are you swinging at the first pitch like that?

  275. Fred Says:

    Bottom line is Phils needed a big game from Hamels tonight and didn’t get it.

  276. Manny Says:

    I was thinking the exact same thing AC.

  277. SJ Mike Says:

    AC, don’t forget the Mets fans will do the same thing.

  278. AC in NJ Says:

    The Mets will not win another 11 games this season. Count on that. The Marlins, Braves and Nationals will continue to bring it just as hard against them and they’ll surprise.

  279. Manny Says:

    Alright Stairs

  280. NEPA Says:

    Haha, wow. That was a bomb.

  281. Kevin Says:

    Geoff- the lowest of the low are people who SPEND ALL THEIR TIME ON BLOGS. Interact, go outside.

  282. Georgie Says:

    How old is Stairs?

  283. SJ Mike Says:

    Stairs is 40.

  284. Manny Says:

    3 more runs to go.

  285. AC in NJ Says:

    Damn…that was close!

  286. Geoff Says:

    i do that kevin, there are 24 hours in a day you know. but then again, you probably dont even know what continent you live on.

  287. AC in NJ Says:

    oh well…close…

  288. Joshua Says:

    What makes you think it’s not possible for the mets to win another 11 games?

  289. Manny Says:

    Rollinssss please…at least get on base

  290. NEPA Says:

    Just get on base J-Roll, give Utley a chance.

  291. Rob Says:

    Sit down Jimmy.

    Aren’t the Mets supposed to choke in this spot?

    Isn’t Delgado supposed to be done?

    Isn’t Rollins supposed to be outshining Reyes?

    Isn’t this the year Hamels was to reach Cy Young form?

    Aren’t the Phillies going to win 100 games?

    Isn’t Utley poised to make it an MVP three-peat?

    Isn’t this going to be Pat Burrell’s career year?

    And hey…Mike Schmidt….

    aren’t the Phillies supposed to be better than the Mets?

    God have Mercy on Philadelphia…a town that now doubts what it was absolutely sure of!

  292. Manny Says:

    J-roll…..damn it

  293. AC in NJ Says:

    look at the idiots in shea…they think they just won a playoff game.

  294. Geoff Says:

    and cole hamels, after producing a fraudulent and disgraceful outing, gets charged with the deserving loss there.

  295. PhilPhan Says:

    rollins was 1 for 9 today, should’ve been 0 for 9. rough

  296. Runshouse Says:

    Mets lose this game last year… Santana did his job.

  297. SJ Mike Says:

    Hey look, the Mets won the World Series…..oh wait, they won one game….

  298. phillies hater Says:

    AC in NJ, Mets are team with some luck recently, but no class? You must be crazy. The Phillies like I said are a good team. I agree with that. But the mets lucky? They owned the Phillies this year. They have more talent, better starting rotation and better offense its not luck its a FACT! No class I think you mean when Victorino took out McCann at home or Utley taking out the catcher last week. Is the saying “if you can’t beat them then try to beat them up?” And atleast reyes has more class then Rollins and reyes shows up in time! And he is not even the spokesman like Rollins. And as far as losing to the Nationals and Braves only the Phillies do that. By the way.
    PUT IN THE BOOKS!!! METS WIN!!

  299. AC in NJ Says:

    Rob – you are going to be crying in your beer 3 weeks from now. You know it, don’t pretend.

  300. Rob Says:

    AC,

    No they weren’t.

    You’ll likely be able to see the difference in about 3 1/2 weeks.

  301. AC in NJ Says:

    Hater and Rob – I hope you come back here in 3 weeks when the Mets go home.

  302. Manny Says:

    Seriously. They won 1 out of 3 at Shea. Luckily we do have our feet on the ground, and we will fight this till the end.

  303. AC in NJ Says:

    Manny – you got that right buddy!

  304. Eli Says:

    regardless, still a good day in philly sports

  305. SJ Mike Says:

    A 2 game defecit is not hard to overcome. Nobody has won anything yet.

  306. Joshua Says:

    SJ Mets, correction, they have won 80

  307. Kevin Says:

    Good one Geoff. Original and intelligent. Hahaha. Now I feel bad, maybe you are just 12- which would explain why your name appears all over this site at all times of the day. Good try though.

  308. phillies hater Says:

    Stop calling the Phillies fans idiots just because they are at shea. They can’t help that. And its bad enough they have a long ride back on thier short Yellow buses. Give them a break!

  309. Runshouse Says:

    11 out of 18 for the year. Good Times.

  310. Rob Says:

    AC,

    You got it…

  311. SJ Mike Says:

    Joshua, nothing is won until something is clinched. Until then, don’t act like you’ve already won it all.

  312. Smith Says:

    The Mets are 11-7 against the Phillies this year and are 2 games ahead of them in the standings. That is far from “domination”, but it is plain fact that they have out-played us in every which way this year.

    This was a series that the Phillies had to come in and sweep.

    All of you who are counting on a Mets collapse again – get over it. It is plainly obvious that they are a much different team right now. The Phillies will now have to go 15-4 over the next 19 to win the division, IMO.

  313. Mets fan Says:

    Good series guys. Fun day. NY and Philly sports look good now with the Eagles, Giants, Jets, Phillies and Mets (and no Yankees).

  314. Fred Says:

    It’s a shame Hamels didn’t bring his A game today. A sweep would have been nice.

  315. SJ Mike Says:

    Nobody is counting on any collapse. 2 games isn’t running away with it all and losing 2 games isn’t collapsing. It’s whoever fights it out the hardest the next 3 weeks. The Phillies took 2 out of 3, which was important. If the Mets were so dominant over the Phils, they would’ve set us back 6 games with a series sweep.

    Nothing has been won yet, so stop acting like you just clinched the division.

  316. gplad Says:

    Well , when they eject our coach, the premier managing mind in all of baseball, the original “diamond genius” as I like to call that big lug, how can we be expected to compete.? I mean really…. with all of the brains back in the showers, we never had a prayer….. Anyway, 2 of 3, it’ll work. Mets are losers and they WILL fold. Goodnight. PS – BIG 5 is back…WoooooHoooo!

  317. AC in NJ Says:

    Mets fans – you gotta believe: YOUR BULLPEN SUCKS, and other than Santana, so does your rotation. PEDRO – done, retire already (I’ll take Moyer any day). PEREZ – please, at some point the old Ollie will show up again – that’s a Schizo pitcher if there ever was one. PELFREY? He’s also thrown more innings than ever before, time for the flower to fade. MAINE – oh yeah, DL. I can’t even remember who their 5th starter is now.

    Here’s the other secret (Mets fans know it too). Every other team in the NL East hates THE METS – not even close. Irrespective of the Phils being division champs, THE ENTIRE NL EAST DESPISES THE METS. So i’m pretty confident that the Nationals, Braves and Marlins will play very, very hard against them and I think we’ll see some big wins out of them.

  318. Fred Says:

    I didn’t think losing Charlie had any effect on the game. His clone, Jimy Williams, seemed to make all the same moves Charlie would have made.

  319. Geoff Says:

    kevin, you probably think that either barrack obama or john mccain will save us somehow. that is essentially the equivalent of not knowing what continent you live on….chief.

  320. Fred Says:

    We never had a chance in the nightcap. For whatever reason Hamels pitched awful. His fastball was never clocked above 88. Maybe it’s time he goes on his yearly trip to the DL.

  321. Geoff Says:

    bsck to baseball. at least the phillies won this series. a net gain over the mets and a little bit of momentum perhaps to carry forward.

  322. gplad Says:

    Fred …sarcasm for catharsis in time of defeat…thats all .. but none-the-less
    Go fightin Phils. If we throttle the Brew crew things could change as well …

  323. SJ Mike Says:

    Unfortunately the Mets have off tomorrow, and somehow Thursday as well (which whoever scheduled that has something wrong with them).

    But we just have to take care of business now with Florida, who have fallen off slightly (but not to be under-estimated).

  324. Runshouse Says:

    gplad Says:
    September 7th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
    How is it that NY ends up with 2 days off this week??

    Last days off of the season.

  325. AC in NJ Says:

    BTW, just curious – who did Delgado contact in late June to help resuscitate his career – Clemens or McNamee? McGwire? Sosa?

  326. Fred Says:

    Phils needed to sweep this series – two wins only picked up a game. A season of missed opportunities.

  327. AC in NJ Says:

    Hang in there Fred…keep the faith. It’s not just the Phils, the Mets will come back to earth soon…its coming.

  328. Smith Says:

    AC in NJ: I’m a Phillies fan, and I must say – I hate fans like you. Not to mention – just about everything you said in your second to last post is false. Give credit where credit is due, and grow up.

  329. Geoff Says:

    indeed fred. thats the theme of this year. there was so much optimism heading into interleague play and they got crushed and their season derailed there and shortly thereafter. the weak division has let them hang around and itd be nice for them to take advantage of that, theyve been given opportunity after opportunity.

  330. Georgie Says:

    I think Hamels is really starting to worry about how many innings he’s pitched, he obviously keeps a very close count of his pitches, going by some of his comments recently.

  331. SJ Mike Says:

    Just can’t hang heads on missed opportunities. Once you get into “could’ve, should’ve, would’ve” territory, that’s admitting defeat.

    Nothing has been decided yet. Hamels had a bad game. Just got to move on and take care of business this week against Florida.

  332. AC in NJ Says:

    Smith – how long you been a fan?

  333. GPR Says:

    I am not one of the guys who comes here and trolls you guy, thats just stupid dumb asses, but lol at you guys saying the Mets are acting like they won the WS. I remember at the very beginning of the season (like the 2nd or 3rd series), the Mets has won the 1st 2 and were going for the sweep. The Mets were down by 1 in the bottom/top of the 9th w/ Reyes on 2nd and Easley on 1st and Beltran up to bat w/ 2 bats. He hit a rocket grounder up the middle, but Bruntlett playing short, dove and made the play. When Howard caught it, he did the whole arms shaking thing that you see when a WS game ends in a grounder.

    Just looked it up, this was the game: http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/wrap.jsp?ymd=20080420&content_id=2562236&vkey=wrapup2005&fext=.jsp&team=away&c_id=nym

  334. Smith Says:

    15 years. What does that matter? I have no desire to talk to people like you.

  335. AC in NJ Says:

    Smith – I wasn’t asking you to talk to me, you chimed in with your dumb ass comment of your own volition.

  336. Smith Says:

    “Volition” is way too big a word for you to be using AC.

  337. phillies hater Says:

    AC in NJ, I can understand and feel your hurt that your team will not be in the post season and the better team (THE METS) will be. I feel your pain but its ok there is always next year!

  338. reasonable met fan Says:

    you know for all the talk about the mets being classless and such, i dont see jose reyes talking about a sweep after the first game of a series. And i cant picture david wright saying yeah the phillies know we’re better than them. Yes the mets dance and the phillies talk. It goes both ways

    That being said we lose this game last year and people making comments that the mets will lose from here on out or even that the mets will win from here on out is just mindless fans trying to top one another. This is coming down to the wire. people on both try to enjoy it

  339. GPR Says:

    Yeah, funny you guys go around calling the Mets classless when you have your MVP saying “They know we are better than them.”

  340. AC in NJ Says:

    Smith – you’re a funny guy and Phils fan, so I say good one and truce, OK?

  341. Smith Says:

    lol. ok AC. truce.

  342. AC in NJ Says:

    Point of fact, “volition” is too big a word for Mets fans to use. LOL. I just read that Wagner had to shut down his simulated start today, so the smile on face has started to come back.

  343. SJ Mike Says:

    The Mets have an advantage though because they won’t have to use too many spot starters with their 2 days off this week. So their pitching will be in relatively good shape with rest.

  344. Smith Says:

    Def. good for Phils fans that Wagner is shut down. Although, they are now something like 22-10 since he went down, so who knows.

  345. AC in NJ Says:

    SJ Mike – be cool. Phils will get days off on the 15th and 25th, Mets have no more days off after this week. Starting the 12th, it’s 17 days in a row for them…

    Let’s hope for 2-3 from the Mutts in the next 5 games, and if Phils can go 3-2, they’ll be 1 back going into the last 2 Brewers games on the weekend.

  346. AC in NJ Says:

    Smith – if the Mets go 15-4 or 14-5 the rest of the way, then they deserve it. I don’t see it happening. Go Phils!

  347. SJ Mike Says:

    I’m just hoping the Brewers can continue their slump and the Nats continue their mini-hot streak into NY.

    But nothing is ever guaranteed in this funky game.

  348. phillies hater Says:

    Its always good to dream! AC in NJ

  349. AC in NJ Says:

    What do you think about keeping Burrell next year? I know it’s hard to replace those type of numbers, but he is too cold at the wrong times, and I think paying him the type of $$ he’d command just is a bad investment.

  350. phillies hater Says:

    Just because the Nationals beat the Phillies does not mean they are on a hot streak. Phillies are just streaky!

  351. AC in NJ Says:

    Hater – go back to a mets blog.

  352. SJ Mike Says:

    Honestly, what to do about Burrell is beyond me. I could see the argument on both sides.

    So I really have no clue. I say worry about crossing that bridge when the season is over.

  353. Smith Says:

    The thing is – unlike last year, the Mets have actually pounded the shitty teams this year – specifically the Nationals, who they now play 6 times. They didn’t fare well early in the season against the braves, but that was a very, VERY different braves team then, and a couple weeks ago the Mets swept the Braves. I’m very worried since they have 12 games now against the braves and nats. I know they have the cubs after that, but by then I think the cubs will have clinched and pinella will rest people. And with Zambrano and Harden with health issues, there is no way they are going to pitch that series if they dont have to.

    We shall see. It will definitely be interesting. The Phils need to show up this week. Big time.

  354. AC in NJ Says:

    Hater, before the Phils won the 2nd game of the Nats series, the Nats had won 7 in a row. They’ve now won 3 of 4 since that loss to the Phils. So that’s 10-2 in their last 12 (I did the math for you as a courtesy, as I know most Mets fans are challenged in basic skills like 2nd grade addition/subtraction). I’d submit that qualifies as a hot streak.

    GO NATS!!

  355. SJ Mike Says:

    Nationals swept the Dodgers too. They’ve been hitting very well of late.

  356. AC in NJ Says:

    Smith – maybe the key then will be Florida. If the Phils can pound them (5-1 or 6-0), but the Marlins play even with the Mets (3-3) or better, that might be it.

    So I agree with you – big week for the Phils, time to show up big.

  357. reasonable met fan Says:

    the nats are running hot but so were the brewers when we ran into them. we’ll see what happens

  358. AC in NJ Says:

    Go Reds!!!

  359. put your brooms away Says:

    all of you should know…

    Us Mets fans LOVE the hate ;)

  360. Phil Thadelphia Says:

    To the REAL Phillies fans who want their team to play better instead of hoping and praying another team plays worse, stop reading now… none of this applies to you. I hate your team as much as you hate mine but for all the right reasons. I’d gladly share a pizza and a beer with you as we watch our teams play meaningful baseball in ANY September.

    Now… for the rest of you. You know who you are. You’re the geniuses peering into the future to predict repeat of a once-a-generation collapse that occurred just one year ago… the ones listing all the reasons why it will happen. Is this really all you can hope for? You don’t think your team can actually WIN? You think the Phillies aren’t capable of their own success? What a sad, sad fan you must be. I pity you.

  361. roid rage Says:

    ryan howard uses steroids. same with matt stairs. and brett myers.

  362. mikemike Says:

    This game is what the owners should look at and realize the shortcomings of this team. A steady righthanded bat a number one starter. And a one more setup guy.If burrell leaves another bat with some speed too.

  363. Rob Says:

    METS.

  364. RiVLez Says:

    Last nights game is where Santana earns his contract. Cole Hamels just didn’t have it yesterday and it could’ve been worse for him. This series is kind of a waste for the Phillies to only gain a game. They needed the sweep and their ace just couldn’t pull it off. Still going to be a great September for baseball.

  365. Fred Says:

    The Mets and Phils are pretty evenly matched teams but I’m afraid the advantage goes to the Mets. Why? They have an ace and we don’t.

  366. RiVLez Says:

    I definitely thought Cole was better than that. I was expecting another Friday game where is was just amazing pitching by both guys. Hamels really didn’t look right out there. Like he didnt’ want to be out there. That is the moment that you wait for a play your best.

  367. roid rage Says:

    howabout lets save the anger for the playoffs and lets take an nl east wildcard. f the brewers right now. its not like were going heads up the rest of this year anyway. i like the thought of a phils v mets nlcs

  368. Tyler Says:

    AC shut your bitch ass up.

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