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		<title>By: SJ Phillies Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ Phillies Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crashburnalley.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Somewhat of an Update</title>
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		<dc:creator>crashburnalley.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Somewhat of an Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Don M. Golson is almost major league-ready now, if he could just get him OBP up and cool off the strikeouts. 

Golson is not Bourn, people. Bourn had nothing but speed and defense. Bourn never had pop in his bat, and never really had the inate ability to get on base. Golson is like a Bourn who can hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Don M. Golson is almost major league-ready now, if he could just get him OBP up and cool off the strikeouts. </p>
<p>Golson is not Bourn, people. Bourn had nothing but speed and defense. Bourn never had pop in his bat, and never really had the inate ability to get on base. Golson is like a Bourn who can hit.</p>
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		<title>By: RichieAllen</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichieAllen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we know we cant compete with The Big Checkbook teams&#039;  dollars....How can we even keep Jamie Moyer?Will the home town interest keep him here?There is limited pitching out there ,and teams need it.
I dont think were going to give him more than 8/mil for 2 years,but if one of those teams gives him 3+years and more money,he&#039;s probably gone.
I  think he&#039;s more valuable than wins and innings to the Phils.
Then again ,his best might be behind him.
I dont envy Amaro on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we know we cant compete with The Big Checkbook teams&#8217;  dollars&#8230;.How can we even keep Jamie Moyer?Will the home town interest keep him here?There is limited pitching out there ,and teams need it.<br />
I dont think were going to give him more than 8/mil for 2 years,but if one of those teams gives him 3+years and more money,he&#8217;s probably gone.<br />
I  think he&#8217;s more valuable than wins and innings to the Phils.<br />
Then again ,his best might be behind him.<br />
I dont envy Amaro on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t have a shot at Oswalt right now, rumor is we&#039;re back in the Burnett sweepsteaks with a low offer.

I&#039;d be all for packaging Golson if we can add an upper tier starter or outfielder but it&#039;s wishful thinking, I like the kid but there&#039;s two guys just like him about a years development behind and for all the potential Golson has no plate vision. On a sideline Coco Crisp has been traded to the Royals, really don&#039;t see us adding anything more than a Jason Michaels right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have a shot at Oswalt right now, rumor is we&#8217;re back in the Burnett sweepsteaks with a low offer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be all for packaging Golson if we can add an upper tier starter or outfielder but it&#8217;s wishful thinking, I like the kid but there&#8217;s two guys just like him about a years development behind and for all the potential Golson has no plate vision. On a sideline Coco Crisp has been traded to the Royals, really don&#8217;t see us adding anything more than a Jason Michaels right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Don M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg Golson already has MLB-ready defense and speed, ...not sure about his throwing-arm (i&#039;d imagine its decent).. he can hit for average and has some pop in his bat

obviously, you&#039;d like to see him strike out less.  He&#039;s a young guy, &quot;toolsy&quot;, with lots of upside, so i&#039;d like to see them hang onto him, unless you can get a Garret Atkins, Jermaine Dye, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Golson already has MLB-ready defense and speed, &#8230;not sure about his throwing-arm (i&#8217;d imagine its decent).. he can hit for average and has some pop in his bat</p>
<p>obviously, you&#8217;d like to see him strike out less.  He&#8217;s a young guy, &#8220;toolsy&#8221;, with lots of upside, so i&#8217;d like to see them hang onto him, unless you can get a Garret Atkins, Jermaine Dye, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Dipsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dipsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ponder Gentle Reader:  If another pitcher comes, and he absolutely MUST if we are to be able to say we have a strong enough staff to contend for another WS via a trade, it may come via a trade.  Hamels is a #1, but we have no #2.  The other guys are all 3/4 types on really good teams.  That said, perhaps lets start with Luke &quot;I Am Your Father&quot; Donald.  Jammed at his position.  If he can&#039;t play third then lets trade him.  His value is high and he won&#039;t play for us.

Golson.  He is starting to feel very Jeff Jackson-ish to me.  His value is still on the high side but another year of striking will sap that.  He can go.

Those guys as the centerpiece of a deal should garner you a lot. A third player of mild pedigree, big league or minors, could be involved.

NOTE:  I hate parting with good prospects. Thats how the Braves get their players in a pinch.  Thats the benefit of a good farm system.  Play em or trade em for what ya need.

Does the name Roy Oswalt mean anything to anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ponder Gentle Reader:  If another pitcher comes, and he absolutely MUST if we are to be able to say we have a strong enough staff to contend for another WS via a trade, it may come via a trade.  Hamels is a #1, but we have no #2.  The other guys are all 3/4 types on really good teams.  That said, perhaps lets start with Luke &#8220;I Am Your Father&#8221; Donald.  Jammed at his position.  If he can&#8217;t play third then lets trade him.  His value is high and he won&#8217;t play for us.</p>
<p>Golson.  He is starting to feel very Jeff Jackson-ish to me.  His value is still on the high side but another year of striking will sap that.  He can go.</p>
<p>Those guys as the centerpiece of a deal should garner you a lot. A third player of mild pedigree, big league or minors, could be involved.</p>
<p>NOTE:  I hate parting with good prospects. Thats how the Braves get their players in a pinch.  Thats the benefit of a good farm system.  Play em or trade em for what ya need.</p>
<p>Does the name Roy Oswalt mean anything to anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: maxhole</title>
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		<dc:creator>maxhole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michael bourne helped us get lidge.  if that slew of guys could get us someone who put out half the production lidge did, i think the team might win a few games</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michael bourne helped us get lidge.  if that slew of guys could get us someone who put out half the production lidge did, i think the team might win a few games</p>
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		<title>By: J cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>J cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This name is bothering me... Greg Golson.  It looks way too close to Michael Bourne.  Here is a piece to any package, Golson and Kendrick.  Throw in Coste or Condrey (or both) and I am still not complaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This name is bothering me&#8230; Greg Golson.  It looks way too close to Michael Bourne.  Here is a piece to any package, Golson and Kendrick.  Throw in Coste or Condrey (or both) and I am still not complaining.</p>
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		<title>By: KM</title>
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		<dc:creator>KM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you used the right word when you said the chances of a big free agent for the Phillies was bleak. 

Moyer could probably get 9mil + if he goes out into free agency, but hopefully we can get him back in the 7-8 million range. I wouldn&#039;t mind  a 2 year, 16 million, with 12 million guaranteed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you used the right word when you said the chances of a big free agent for the Phillies was bleak. </p>
<p>Moyer could probably get 9mil + if he goes out into free agency, but hopefully we can get him back in the 7-8 million range. I wouldn&#8217;t mind  a 2 year, 16 million, with 12 million guaranteed.</p>
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