Comments on: Pete Mackanin Named Bench Coach

By: ant

ant — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:49:51 +0000

Mark we should tell him too names who got a lot of security, Hampton, Mulder, that should get him to sign. all that money and they stink.

By: ant

ant — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:35:13 +0000

One thing people are forgetting. Cole Hamels history of injuries works against him. If at his age it was me I would take a 7 year deal to get financial security. He still would be young to get another deal yet he gets financial security for his family a win win for him.

By: T Marty

T Marty — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:00:02 +0000

Who?

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:38:47 +0000

If I were Cole, I’d want the longterm. There are numerous of players who get signed to multi-year deals who are WAY overpaid. *ahem* … Adam Eaton? Who, this past season, was making a half Mil more than Utley! Hahaha.

Who doesn’t want financial security, anyway?

For an organization, if the player has a rather unsuccessful season, then yes, their pay will go down. But, deservedly so.

I love arbitration because it breaks down your performance throughout the season and ends with a dollar amount, which most times, you’re really worth. Example: Ryan Howard. I think the 10 million is spot on with him.

By: Manny

Manny — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:33:08 +0000

I’m not so sure… Hamels is a pitcher who is very prone to injury…so he might prefer signing long-term.

By: Georgie

Georgie — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:27:27 +0000

But don’t they take a chance with that, say if they happen to have a crappy season, would their value go down? To me, going to arb every year would be stressful, rather have the security. Or maybe guys that want to go to arb every year are not sure they want to stay with their current team longterm???

By: Bonezy

Bonezy — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:24:57 +0000

I would think the best benefit would be to sign him now. The best for Hamels would be to go year to year. Matt is right he will get a boat load of cash when he becomes a free agent. This might be the only shot the Phils have at signing him at a bargain.

By: Matt Kwasiborski

Matt Kwasiborski — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:08:58 +0000

I could see Hamels going year to year with us. If he signs with us now he forgoes millions. If he goes year to year he will max out his potential salary by the time he hits FA and then can go to the highest bidder.

The upside for players is that they get financial security. The team gets a bargain basement price if they sign him long term. Rollins is underpaid by his contract. Utley took a long term deal but if he didn’t and hit the open market, his annual salary would have been alot higher then he is getting now.

By: Justin

Justin — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:20:29 +0000

Just to finish off on ur topic Georgie, it wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility that Cole Hamels may prefer it to go year to year. Tim Lincecum has come out publicly as saying he would prefer to go year to year in arbitration to get top dollar for his year to year performance to match other top pitchers until his arbitration time is up. Then sign a long term deal. Hamels may be thinking the same way to match his performance against other top pitchers hitting the market. I don’t think he’ll get 7 mill but definitely 5 mill.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:16:33 +0000

There will always be two sides to that argument when a star player is up for arbitration. One side says, “yeah, of course. Keep it as cheap as you can for as long as you can”, and the other side states “Lock him up long term and avoid ‘hurting his feelings’.”

This is a buisness. I’m fairly confident that most players don’t take arbitration to heart.

Honestly, who wouldn’t want to keep top tier players on arbitration? It flat out makes sense from a financial point of view.