Comments on: Commentary: Moyer Is OK, For Right Now http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/ More than a blog Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:31:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Lock-Picker http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64776 Lock-Picker Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:48:47 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64776 I don't agree with Tim that the Phillies positioned themselves as awkwardly for the future as he suggested. If, like Tim thinks, Moyer might be a slightly lesser, still productive/wily version of himself in '09, than the Phillies can simply enjoy his services next year, and then present him, however respectfully, with the information that if he wishes to play out his contract, then the Phils would likely make him a useful middle-relief guy (assuming that one of the prospects/a signing has arrived by that point). He can always choose to retire. I don’t agree with Tim that the Phillies positioned themselves as awkwardly for the future as he suggested. If, like Tim thinks, Moyer might be a slightly lesser, still productive/wily version of himself in ‘09, than the Phillies can simply enjoy his services next year, and then present him, however respectfully, with the information that if he wishes to play out his contract, then the Phils would likely make him a useful middle-relief guy (assuming that one of the prospects/a signing has arrived by that point). He can always choose to retire.

]]> By: Chuck P http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64543 Chuck P Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:35:25 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64543 This article was written before the deal was announced. This guy assumed that we were going to have to pay $10 million per year for his services... the deal is not written that way. The guaranteed money is only $6.5 million. If he performs like we hope he performs, then he's worth $10 million per year. The pendulum swings the other way when you realize the deal we got for his services. This article was written before the deal was announced. This guy assumed that we were going to have to pay $10 million per year for his services… the deal is not written that way. The guaranteed money is only $6.5 million. If he performs like we hope he performs, then he’s worth $10 million per year. The pendulum swings the other way when you realize the deal we got for his services.

]]> By: James http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64510 James Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:29:23 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64510 Came across this story, this guy doesnt seem to like the move, I kind of agree http://pcpsports.com/2008/12/09/moyer-the-wrong-guy-for-the-phillies/ Came across this story, this guy doesnt seem to like the move, I kind of agree

http://pcpsports.com/2008/12/09/moyer-the-wrong-guy-for-the-phillies/

]]> By: Manny http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64490 Manny Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:45:13 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64490 Actually, NJ, after getting Moyer and Park, I think that getting Lowe now wouldn't be the smartest thing to do. That would be just too many pitchers that wouldn't leave space for Carrasco/Happ/Kendrick, plus too expensive overall. I knew it was gonna be Moyer OR someone at least better than him (like Lowe). The minute we resigned Moyer, I knew Lowe wasn't gonna happen. I'm not mad at Moyer, but just upset that we didn't stay in the game for Lowe. I remember reports saying that Yankees and Phillies were the highest bidders at a moment... later the Yankees lost interest... then the Braves... then the Mets lost some interest... Obviously, Boras is asking for too much money, but he can ask all he wants... eventually the price should drop. We simply gave up when could have had a decent shot at Lowe. If Lowe ends up with something close to a 3/45M deal, I'd be very pissed at Amaro. If Lowe ends up with something similar to a 4/64M deal, then resigning Moyer would've been the best choice all along. Actually, NJ, after getting Moyer and Park, I think that getting Lowe now wouldn’t be the smartest thing to do. That would be just too many pitchers that wouldn’t leave space for Carrasco/Happ/Kendrick, plus too expensive overall. I knew it was gonna be Moyer OR someone at least better than him (like Lowe).

The minute we resigned Moyer, I knew Lowe wasn’t gonna happen. I’m not mad at Moyer, but just upset that we didn’t stay in the game for Lowe. I remember reports saying that Yankees and Phillies were the highest bidders at a moment… later the Yankees lost interest… then the Braves… then the Mets lost some interest… Obviously, Boras is asking for too much money, but he can ask all he wants… eventually the price should drop. We simply gave up when could have had a decent shot at Lowe.

If Lowe ends up with something close to a 3/45M deal, I’d be very pissed at Amaro.
If Lowe ends up with something similar to a 4/64M deal, then resigning Moyer would’ve been the best choice all along.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64486 Jeff Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:12:08 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64486 phillies scare me soo much.....nat phillies scare me soo much…..nat

]]> By: christopher http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64481 christopher Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:19:10 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64481 i like lowe a lot, i've been saying the phillies should go after him since the middle of last season. still, the contract boras is asking for is preposterous. if amaro gave him that he'd be a moron. it just wasn't realistic. i like lowe a lot, i’ve been saying the phillies should go after him since the middle of last season. still, the contract boras is asking for is preposterous. if amaro gave him that he’d be a moron. it just wasn’t realistic.

]]> By: NJ http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64477 NJ Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:47:36 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64477 But your still not happy because you want Lowe and are going to keep on banging the Amaro screwed up drum I assume... But your still not happy because you want Lowe and are going to keep on banging the Amaro screwed up drum I assume…

]]> By: Manny http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64475 Manny Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:45:43 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64475 I'm happy for you. I’m happy for you.

]]> By: NJ http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64473 NJ Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:41:55 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64473 I don't need to, I'm not over the moon but I'm on board with what he's doing. I don’t need to, I’m not over the moon but I’m on board with what he’s doing.

]]> By: Manny http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-64470 Manny Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:38:06 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/12/commentary-moyer-is-ok-for-right-now/#comment-64470 Ask him. Ask him.

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