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18 Responses to “Johan Santana To Undergo Elbow Tests”

1. the lopez! Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 1:41 pm

   the mets magic strikes again!

   that team has the knack for picking expensive injury prone players dating back to the craig swan, john stearns days

   at least when they suck this year it will be in a new stadium

2. Crane Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 1:55 pm

   They should make Oliver Perez the opening day starter. It’d be entertaining.

3. Fran Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 2:00 pm

   It will also be an improvement Crane.

   Haha I bet there looking at K-Rod and saying, “Hey can you pitch the 1st 8 instead of just the 9th?”

4. Phil Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 2:28 pm

   i dont wish injury on any player…tough break for the mets

5. Chuck P Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 3:39 pm

   The first of a few Met injuries, I am sure. One of either Putz/K-Rod will have to spend time on the DL because of what Fran said… they won’t ask either of them to be a starter but they will lean on those guys hard and eventually, one of them will crack. They subtracted 4 relievers and gained two… they’re not as good as they think. We have the flexibilty to run out three or four quality relievers at the end of games… the Mets don’t have that luxury. That means, starters and key bullpen guys will be stress tested early and often.

6. mets09 Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 3:59 pm

   Oh, Chuck how are you “sure” this is the first of many injuries. Cause you might be a pretty pecial person if you can tell that.. or if it even is an injury. We also got Sean Green who has been a workhorse in the bullpen for the last few years. We have tons of guys in camp trying out. Bullpen guys are so year to year. you have no idea whos gonna be good or bad in a bullpen except the 8th,9th guys. even 8th is a question. If putz or Krod get hurt it doest matter,thats why they have two clsers so we dont have to deal with long our closer.it is not a bad thing they have two closers.

7. mets09 Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 4:00 pm

   losing*

8. Griffin Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 4:39 pm

   Santana threw again, reported no pain and the MRI was canceled. He’ll be pitching on Opening Day.

9. Ed R. Says:
   March 1st, 2009 at 5:05 pm

   I have no problem with the idea of the Mets sucking, or their expensive acquisitions breaking down, but don’t put Stearns and Swan in that category. Swan was a Met through and through, hardly a pickup, and Stearns barely had a cup of coffee with the Phils before we packaged him for the Tugger (yes!), so he hardly falls into the high-priced pickup category. Just bad luck for the Metsies, who had plenty of it in those days.

10. Craig Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 am

    Why is this even on here?

    Thought this blog was above all the Mets / Phillies shite.

    Why not go the whole hog and start giving us daily updates from the Mets spring training camp??

11. RiVLez Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 8:13 am

    Tim that is just sad that you stoop to such a level that you would post injuries of the Mets. Never in your life would you see this being done at a certain Mets blog. And good job Phillies fans for talking crap because it turned out being nothing. Good job.

12. RiVLez Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 am

    and seriously do you think Lidge is going to be perfect again as well as the rest of the bullpen? HAHAHA

13. Dan L Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 8:35 am

    Totally with you RiVLez…just as perfect as damaged-goods jj putz will be, and exceedingly overrated krod. Why do you think it only cost Omar a bag of peanuts to acquire Putz? Get real pal, the man is cooked. Plus, Krod is a little guy just like Billy Wagner, he’s no gurantee…you guys have nothing close to the Phils’ pen.

    Be patient, Phils fans, Omar Minaya’s foolishness will show on its own. Give it time. Overspending for players in the prime/tail-end of their careers rarely translates into sustained success. The Mets’ roster is full of such free-agent signings/trades (i.e., Delgado, Beltran, Krod, Putz, Castillo, Schneider, etc.). Not to say that these acquisitions havent helped in the past, but I am saying they will not sustain a good ball club. Harnessing and keeping a core of home-grown players will sustain success (even the Yankees had their most success with this kind of formula in the 90s…less success when they just started buying the entire market over like the past 5 years). The Phillies are running on such a formula.

    Trash-talking aside, though, I am getting kind of bored with this whole media-manipulated rivalry.

    Mets-Phillies animosity was a beautiful thing that was growing on its own. why do so many people in the media blow it out of proportion to the point where it approaches laughability rather than a guilty pleasure?

    I want Jose Reyes’s celebrations and Jimmy Rollins’ bravado to dictate this delicious distaste between the pair of division foes. I do not want heavily baited questions, out-of-context sound bytes, and irrelevant news clippings snowballing into confused and stilted feelings. That just leaves a bad taste in your mouth, like a Michael Bay film (forced and tired melodrama).

14. Phan in TN Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 am

    An obligation of each Phillies fan is to laugh at the Mets. If certain personages want to be overly sensitive about what should or shouldn’t be in this blog, I would encourage them to pull their lower lips up over their heads and swallow.

    Thanks for posting this story, Mister Malcolm. Yes, I think its funny that Santana will undergo elbow tests. Not funny like the last game at Shea Stadium since that was just funny/sad.

15. David W Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 am

    Tim, im sure Metsblog are looking for some more bloggers to help with their site, being that you love talking Mets….and he’s todays article from the Daily News!!!

    PORT ST. LUCIE – Johan Santana felt so good during a 35-pitch bullpen session Sunday, he canceled a visit to New York to have an MRI and visit with team doctors. Either that’s why, or a snowstorm targeting the city and an already scheduled trip by the Mets’ medical staff to spring training later in the week made aborting Santana’s travel plans sensible.

    The Mets had announced early Sunday that Santana would proceed with his planned throwing session off a mound, then fly to New York for a hastily scheduled checkup today.

    “He feels he’s fine,” GM Omar Minaya said. “He feels he doesn’t need to go to New York.”

    Santana beamed with excitement about Sunday’s session off a mound, which had been his first since Wednesday, when elbow tightness related to his triceps tendon surfaced.

    “It’s the first time in the last four days that I threw, but I feel good,” Santana said. “I felt fine. I don’t think it will be any problem. I was just trying to throw my fastball and some changeups to see how my arm feels, but everything was fine. As you go, you feel better. As you throw more pitches, you feel better. That’s what you want to see. That’s telling me that we’re making progress and getting loose.”

    Santana had expressed curiosity Saturday about whether his elbow would retighten after completing the bullpen session. Sunday he expressed no concern it would stiffen as the day went along.

    Pitching coach Dan Warthen expressed similar approval of Santana’s showing. Santana plans to get on a mound in a couple of days for another bullpen session. Warthen hoped Santana would require only one or two subsequent batting practice sessions, one perhaps a simulated game, before getting into a Grapefruit League game. Warthen mentioned Santana’s 30th birthday, March 13, as a possible target date to pitch in a game. “No guarantees about that,” added Warthen, who estimated Santana threw at 80% to 85%.

    Santana, listening in the clubhouse to an SNY report Sunday morning about Opening Day being in jeopardy, became animated when he heard the topic since he doesn’t think his availability is remotely in question.

    Santana and Warthen both suggested the ace’s desire to represent Venezuela in the World Baseball Classic may have contributed to the elbow stiffening. Santana worked off a mound every other day upon arriving in camp, which is more frequently than he’s accustomed. Warthen said it was the intensity of those workouts, not the volume, which may have knocked Santana off track.

    “That’s my speculation. I’m guessing that he had his own quiet agenda – not sharing it with anybody else,” Warthen said. “I think Johan had an inner feeling that he’d like to go represent Venezuela. I can understand that, and everybody appreciates it because he is the big man down there.”

    Said Santana: “Coming into spring training, my mind-set was to participate in the WBC. Somehow you have to find a way to get ready. … I think that’s what it was – too much throwing too soon. That’s all it was. Once they said I’m not participating in the WBC, then we backed off a little bit.”

    Jerry Manuel said there was a “very good” chance Santana would make the Opening Day start April 6 in Cincinnati. Warthen allowed for the possibility that the ace would wait until later in the first turn through the rotation before making his 2009 regular-season debut.

    “I know that he would like to pitch Opening Day. We’d like him to pitch Opening Day,” Warthen said. “But we will go ahead and not push that envelope whatsoever.”

    The pitching coach complimented Santana’s control. Warthen described the positive session as a weight off of everybody’s shoulders.

    As Minaya watched in a golf cart and Santana threw, Warthen entered a batter’s box and Santana told his pitching coach: “I’m not going to tell you what’s coming.”

    With precision, the next pitch was thrown low and inside, though not nearly close enough to upend Warthen.

    “One-and-two,” Warthen later called out, assigning counts to simulate a game setting.

    The next pitch hit catcher Omir Santos’ glove.

    “Beautiful,” Warthen said.

16. Phan in TN Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 am

    sometimes a link works better than a huge copy paste

    trust me on this

17. David W Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 9:44 am

    nah, you guys love reading about the Mets so i figured the whole story would be better

18. Phan in TN Says:
    March 2nd, 2009 at 9:46 am

    I didn’t see anything about why Beyonce won’t return my calls in that text, so I didn’t enjoy it much.

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