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48 Responses to “Phillies Sign Catcher Paul Bako”

1. Brooks Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

   Fine, just what we need – career backup catcher with a terrible average.
   What a warm cozy -

2. The Dipsy Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 5:46 pm

   Phillies sign Bako? Who cares.

   THE DIPSY’S HANDICAP – THE STARTER THE PHILS WILL TRADE FOR ON JULY 18.

   As the spring turns into summer, and the swallows return to Capustrano, a teams start to realize who they are and who they aren’t. Thats said, lets take a look at the pitchers the Phils are most likely to trade for this summer to eat innings, keep the ball in the park, and push Brett Myers down to #3 starter, only one spot above where he actually belongs.

   Dan Haren 50-1. The Diamondbacks suck now but they have pitching and I think they’ll bounce back so Haren probably won’t go anywhere. Even if the D’Backs are shitcanned by July and the D’Backs look to move him, the Phillies will NOT give up the boatload of talent Arizona will want. Think Donald, Marson, Carrasco AND Victorino.

   Mark Buerhle 25-1. He’s still good but he makes a lotta money but he MIGHT be the kinda guy the Phils might look at if he’s merely pitching well as the season goes on and not tearing it up. Plus the Sox have to blow, which they will.

   Erik Bedard – 22-1 Hey, this guy can pitch. He’s been in Seattle for a while now and he’s pitched really well. Makes good coin and Seattle doesn’t really have a history of deadline dumps. Plus he’s not that old. But, as with all of these teams, if Seattle gets bad enough, the M’s would have to consider trading him for the right price.

   Gil Meche – 20-1. 2 years ago it was “Gil who”? Now he’s a nice pitcher. Can pitch innings. Very solid….and a Royal so the sharks will be circling sooner or later.

   Jon Garland 13 – 1. The kind of pitcher the Phils like. Very Blanton-ish right now: Lotsa innings, doesn’t dominate but keeps you in games. A vet. If the D’backs fall apart this will be the guy that goes.

   Roy Oswalt 7-1. The salary, the “bad” arm, the bad team he plays for and their bad management. He’s reached his apex but he’s not so bad on his way down the bell curve. Still capable of 15 wins, 210 IP and a 3.40 ERA. I’ll take it. And he’s in his walk year.

   Aaron Cook 5-1. Ah yes…this guy. Has quietly put together a string of good years playing in Denver. He’s 30. Not young. Not old. Makes money but not too much. If the Rockies tank they may feel they have enough good young pitching to let him go. And we’ll give them a pitching prospect, too. he would be sweet.

   The Phillies are W.S. champs and any man that doesn’t feel that the Phils have a MORAL obligation to bolster the roster in a meaningful way if they find themselves in mid July with Cole Hamel and the Hamlettes (ok, I know its a little off) is no fan I care to know. Ruben…..commence dialing.

   The Dispy

3. Jeff of NoVa. Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

   The Dipsy,
   I agree and disagree.

   I don’t see them getting any of those guys, I think they are work to commit to the system, and if no one steps up by end of June then the dialing will start.

   I think the odd of none of them are more like 2-1
   I would love for them to get Bedard but Seatle is winning

4. The Dipsy Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

   I totally agree Jeff. They will get someone though. I keep thinking about Jon Garland, though. Probably a 3/4 starter type who will do them no good in the playoffs. My thing is that Marson or Ruiz and Donald are blocked. Donald can play right I guess and move Werth to center and trade Vic. Or third but I love Feliz there. So. What are you gonna do leave Marson and Donald down? Trade em. Thats what you do with a good farm sytem. Plug in the positions you need and trade off your quality excess.

   The Dipsy

5. mikemike Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

   After reading some article it seems that Bastardo will take moyer place if necessary. And the catcher was signed because they only have three catchers in extended spring training, And twenty-four pitchers, so they needed help.

6. Havoc Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

   To be honest with you this signing makes me think that perhaps a trade may be in the works. I know the sox were interested in Marson earlier in the year. Perhaps with another albeit less inspiring major league ready catcher in the minors the Phils are going to move him for a starting pitcher. We would still have Travis coming up even though he’s several years away.

7. The Dipsy Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

   If that happens then where does Moyer go? To the pen then I guess Park gets let go?

   The Dipsy

8. The Dipsy Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

   Havoc…….ah, I don’t think so.

   The Dispy

9. Bruce Says:
   May 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

   Interesting and thought out wish list to ponder and fantasize for the next few months. Yes.. after all, it’s May 18th and 126 games left in a marathon season. The World Champions still have their last year’s rotation (with the exception of Park) and Manual and Dubee certainly have not reach a point of desperation so early in the season. Injuries (primarily Hamels and Lidge) had some havoc on pitching in rotation and bullpen. The team survived that and the offense continue to percolate. Happ is waiting in the wings and Manual will determine if and when it’s necessary to make changes with the rotation.

   By the way, when it comes to injuries, the Phillies should consider themselves fortunate in comparison to the Mets’ problems. Delgado is on the DL (hip injury) and if surgery is required he could be out for the season. That’s a hugh blow for the team. Their starter, Perez is on the DL and are in the market to add another starter.

   I’m sure there are other posters (Geoff?) who will respond to you in the like manner of tossing names on a wish list. I’m not one of those.I rather wait to get a bigger, fuller picture of team’s situation..say in June
   and speculate what the manager and the GM are thinking and the moves and options they may consider.

10. The Dipsy Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Well Bruce, and I’m not being sarcastic when I say, that you probably lead a rich and rewarding life. I don’t. I live in my parents basement. I spent days putting that list together. To have it so easily dismissed in the manner you chose hurts a bit. But thats ok. I have lists upon list that I have planned for the near future.

    The Dipsy

11. Geoff Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    Park would be more useful in the pen than Moyer. Moyer would go.

    If they are trading someone right now then its Marson because this guy Bako is actually worse than Coste so there would be no reason to have him on the major league roster. Travis is awesome, but hes still a few years off and it would be mistake.

    I firmly believe that Park will be switched out for Happ soon – probably before the weekend for IL play. I also believe theyre going to give Moyer 1, 2 more starts to get his 250th win and then thats it. If he continues to be this terrible theyd have to make an early trade. Carpenter is even more useful than Moyer right now, which is sad. At least Carpenter kept the ball in this continent with his sinkers – jeez.

    Im not sure theyll get someone from that list, but theyll definitely get someone. Garland would be useless. Cook – eh. Bedard and Buerhle would be nice. My guy is Dan Haren, but there is a better chance of the Phillies getting Jake Peavy than that, as were talking like zero and 0.5% chance there…I saw Oswalt totally get embarrassed at the WBC so Im not too keen on him anymore. Gil Meche would be great but the Royals arent looking to bad right now…I think hell stay there but he innings so hed be great here.

12. Terry the troll Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    I think the mets will get Cliff Lee But I hope they can some how get Adrian Gonzalez.

13. Terry the troll Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Victor Martinez would be nice too but Adrian Gonzalez is my first choice

14. Terry the troll Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    If they can’t get any of them they can get Nick Johnson for a cheap price. I also forgot about Abuery Huff.

15. Terry the troll Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Are the Phillies off today????

16. The Dipsy Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    Geoff, Garland is OK. You should take a look at Cook over the last three years. The guys can just flat out pitch. As for Oswalt, if you you give me a team full of players of guys that sucked at the WBC, Id have a pretty damn good team.

    The Dipsy

17. Terry the troll Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Geoff the only reason why Oliie is on the DL is because he was pitching bad not because of injury.and as long as we have sheffeild and can play murphy at first we will be fine and as I said before they will get some body at the trading deadline.

18. mikemike Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    It looks like the mets will get johnson. or de rosa according to mlb. and then they will according to reports try for peavy, They have the prospect according to what I am reading, The owners have open the checkbook to whatever it takes. Peavy would get a extension for waving his no trade. if not then it’s badard for sure.

19. mikemike Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    The Dipsy why does Tim not stop them from posting, he did last year.If you stop posting he wins never. tim will bar them from posting. You can judge people from how they act this guy is like nerds on that show afraid in person to say anything, but on a computer he thinks he is brave. Wonder why so many guys are losers

20. mikemike Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    The phillies just traded for manny ayala a relief pitcher

21. The Dipsy Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    He’s got a good arm.

    The Dipsy

22. The Little Guy Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 7:46 pm

    Where you see that mikemike?

    Also, who did they give up?

23. mikemike Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    its on phuture phillies no names on who they gave up

24. The Little Guy Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    phuture phillies?

25. mikemike Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Phuture phillies is a web site that talks mostly phillies prospects, not a lot of major league talk. They follow the daily progress of the prospects really good blog. they said there were two trade the other was the padres and indians.

26. Geoff Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Thought they did that a while ago…

27. pb Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    they did back in april

    http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/04/phillies-acquire-reliever-manny-ayala/

28. The Little Guy Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Ohh, i was thinking of Luis Ayala, the RHP for the Nats whose pretty good..

29. mikemike Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Geoff’s right I read the thing and didn’t look at the date sorry, didn’t know who the hell ayala was anyway. if they did this were is he now>

30. Frank Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    what kind of deal could be in the works with the sox???? nothing probably i would like to see somthing but if there was a deal i woul think it would involve marson and maby myers (contract year remember)???

31. Griffin Says:
    May 18th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Roy Oswalt is NOT a free agent after this year. He is signed through 2011 with a 2012 club option.

32. Havoc Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Not sure who we’d get or if the sox’s would want to deal a pitcher, but I know they want a catcher for the future and do have a surplus of major leage ready pitching. Of course seeing as that’s the one glaring weakness on our team it’s unlikely we’ll get anyone decent for even a fair trade, when team’s know you only need one or two pieces they like to over charge you.

33. Bruce Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Very few if any comments on the minor league deal for Paul Bako. My sense is the Phillies wanted this 10 year ML veteran as added depth in case something happens to Carlos Ruiz or Chris Coste at some point. Again, it appears the front office philosophy is in going with experience over youth (Marson).

34. Shawn Victorino Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 2:03 am

    I know its totally off topic, but there was nowhere else to post it. Anyone get a chance to watch the mets totally blow that game? A bunch of errors and communication problems helped the Dodgers big time.Lets get a win tomorrow ! P.S. Church next time touch the bag haha

35. Keith Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 3:03 am

    ha yea I saw it.

36. Kevin Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 6:50 am

    Yeah, this move does nothing to excite me.

37. mikemike Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 7:57 am

    Terry are you allright. Just got up didn’t see mets game. now they posted, the mets blew the game. Just want to make sure you okay.

38. The Dipsy Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 8:01 am

    How about Mark Buerle coming over from the Sox?

    The Dispy

39. Don M Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 9:49 am

    I was posting yesterday that I think Buerhle is already out there as someone who his team wants to move.. and White Sox are 15-22 right now

    He’s having an unreal start to the season.. 45 Innings, 5-1, 3.00 ERA, 1.09 WHIP, 30 Ks, 12 Walks

    Also,
    The Mariners ARE NOT winning.. they started hot (so did the Padres.. so did the Marlins).. The M’s are now 18-21 and 6 games back of Texas in the West, 2 games behind the Angels, who are getting their #1 and #2 pitchers back

    The Mariners should, and will be SELLERS at the deadline…

    Bedard in 42 innings, 2-1 record, 2.53 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 43 Ks, 11 Walks

    My best guess for what either of these guys would cost:
    We’d have to give up one of the OF prospects, probably one of the top-pitchers, and then a throw-in prospect as well..

40. Geoff Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 10:14 am

    Buerhle is the one to go after. Bedard would cost less, but Buerhle is under contract next year too I beleive. This guy would tear up the National League.

    My Guess:

    Drabek is off limits, Taylor and Brown are off Limits, and Im not sure about carrasco.

    So:

    Michael Stutes, John Mayberry, JR, David (name?) Schwimmer, & ONE of Lou Marson/Jason Donald.

    Would anyone do that? I mean, this is mark Buerhle were talking about here, I think it might be worth it since hes under contract for a year longer at least. can someone verify the contract?

41. Geoff Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 10:16 am

    Or, Maybe if they took out one of those guys they could get away with a few lesser throw-ins.

42. mikemike Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    The only untouchables are Drabek, because he projects as a one or two. and the way brown is developing it would be hard to part with him. He is a five tool stud. Yesterday the phillies said he isn’t in reading. because they want to go slow with him. Taylor is really coming on but he had diabetis and sit out games. Maybe they would part with him .

43. Don M Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 10:59 am

    I HIGHLY doubt they would consider moving Carrasco either..

    he’s young, with a ton of upside… and once he gets called up, the Phillies have him under their control for a couple of years.. instead of trading him for a veteran that you’ll lose to free agency one year later..

    Considering we just won the World Series.. I really doubt we’ll see them move any top-pitching just for a chance to make another post season run.. they earned the right not to mortgage their future to go “all-in” right now..

    If you could give up Donald, Savery, and ? for Mark Buerhle.. you would probably pull the trigger

44. mikemike Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Carrasco in the right deal will be move. You have to remember he projects as a three or four, according to scouts, law and others who really know prospect, so if you can pay the money to a buerhle and it for more than one season, you make the move buerhle is already a established two or three carrasco might never make it so if you are serious about another pennant and series you do it, and also for the first time in years they have a lot of arms. three more of those arms are in extended spring waiting for willamsport to start. May, Cosart, arroylo

45. Don M Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Myers, Blanton, Moyer … might not be on the roster in 2011… at the same time that Buerhle would leave.. and when Hamels would become a Free Agent for the first time (or is that 2012)..

    Whatever the case.. you need FIVE starting pitchers for your team.. and i’d rather have Carrasco as a solid three or four.. then have to keep trading prospects for Lidle, Lohse, and Blantons every year

    Carrasco is 23 year old.. he’s got plenty of time to develop.. and from everything I ever read about him he project to be a “Mid to Top of the rotation Starter” … whatever that means Im not sure..

    But Hamels, Happ, Carrasco, Drabek, ? .. sounds nice a few years down the line

46. Bill Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    phils have $20+ million coming off the books after 2009 in Myers/Eaton…I think if they can make a deal without killing their minor league system they will come summer….which means anyone in that $5-$14 million range could be in play as long as they’re also signed for 2010..at that price, myers could be resigned for a more reasonable 3 years – $21 deal and they strengthen team for ‘09/’10 without adding ‘10 salary from ‘09 levels. We know there is no way Bretty gets anything on the open market resembling the $12 million phils paying him this year plus he wants to stay in philly so 3 yrs $20-$25 million is about right.

    big question is do the phils have enough in their system to go after a Buehrle/Peavy/Haren/Bedard come July? They could easily add a Garland or a Cook but I don’t see that happening unless injuries hit the staff…they’re locked into Moyer this year and he will get 20+ starts at minimum before any hook. you just don’t yank a guy after 7 starts coming off a 16-7 3.71 era season and two year big contract signing…he’ll get 20+ to prove he didn’t age out of the league over the winter. blanton will get 20+ starts as well, he has proven he is a solid(if unspectacular) major league starting pitcher.

    boy would be nice to land one of the big arms come July and go to battle with Hamels Myers and ____ _____ come september. I think they’ll do it money wise if they can mak a deal that makes sense.

47. Don M Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Haren is signed with the Diamondbacks for a while I think..

    Harden on the Cubs might not be signed, but he’s an injury risk and the Phillies wouldn’t be interested.. they are in love with “Innings Eaters”

    I think they go after Buerhle is the White Sox stay under .500 and look to rebuild..

    They have John Danks as an ACE in waiting for them.. they can afford to move Buerhle for prospects..

    Peavy is nasty, but I think they’ll ask for a TON in return.. in hopes that the Yankees and Cubs outbid one another

48. mikemike Says:
    May 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Peavy is going to hold up any east coast trade with crazy demands to waive his only certain team deal. I like him but he will cost a bundle, plus san diego will want so much it might just be better to pass. What I Don’t get is you can go to a winning team why not/

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