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69 Responses to “BREAKING NEWS: Ibanez On 15-Day DL With Groin Strain”

1. Trout Boy Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 10:43 am

   Well, shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. That hurts. I’m getting worried…

   Things look a bit bleak right now.

2. Joe D Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 10:48 am

   Well, its Johns time to shine and maybe we can use him as a better trade bait for a solid pitcher.

3. Chuck P Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 10:49 am

   Explains a lot, I guess…

   Silver lining- we get to see Mayberry every day for a little while… would love to see if he can be our RH bench bat.

4. adam Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 10:50 am

   Lets just hope hes only out for the minimum 15 days

5. Justin Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 10:52 am

   I’m sure he does a rehab stint, they won’t rush him back, specially if they’re calling a groin strain they don’t want it to be anything more serious where he misses more time.

6. Buffalophilsfan Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 10:53 am

   OK, lets just settle down. I wanted to get in before Jeff chimes in and says the season is over and let’s look to rebuild by unloading Howard and Rollins for prospects.

   This is a setback, but better it happened now than later. Even more of an issue I feel is the starting pitching. We can get by without Rauuuul for a couple weeks, but there is no way they can survive without adding 1 and probably 2 starters.

   We are still +3 on the Mets and the Braves and Marlins seem to be fading well below .500. Keep treading water until we land those arms. Zach Duke goes today for the Buckos and he is my man to right this ship. Grabbing Duke and moving Bastardo to the pen will help both situations. In the meantime, lets get Rauuuul healthy and hope Mayberry gains some valuable every-day playing time to increase his trade value (or maybe Werth or Vic!!)

   One more thing, Charlie PLEASE take JRoll out of the 1 hole. The way he is going it is like having pitchers hit back-to-back in the lineup.

7. The Dispy Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 10:53 am

   I was watching the Boston game on Sunday and I thought I saw him pull up a little going to first. I wonder if thats when he did it. Oh well. Perhaps a nice little stretch by Mayberry can bump his trade value a little.

   The Dipsy

   “Always striving to make the Phiilies a better team”.

8. Casey Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 10:55 am

   NOOOOOOOO

   on a pure selfish note – i hope this does not affect his all star standings – would love for him to still be able to go as a starter!!

9. mkelly Says:
   June 18th, 2009 at 11:02 am

   mayberry will shine. he is a great young talent

10. JeffS Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:08 am

    On a selfish note for me, and since I don’t have tix for Philly until sometime in July, maybe I’ll get to see Raul in a rehab game in Reading or A-town.

    After getting lots of good breaks early in the season, anyone else feel like there’s a storm cloud following the Phils lately?

11. Geoff Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:09 am

    At least hell get to play this time. The injury storm is coming now. Eyre, Lidge, Ibanez, etc. I predict Lidge will be lights out again when he comes back – IF hes fully healthy.

    The bullpen is burned out though as Manuel said last night.

    They need a reliever – and fast – and a good one at that. AND a starter that still is missing. they may have to overpay for cliff lee because the other aces are dropping like flies.

12. Bruce Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    I was about to post this quote by Charlie Manual on Ibanez before I read Tim’s news blurb;

    ” LF Raul Ibanez(notes) went 0-for-3 Wednesday night and is 3-for-17 (.176) during the first five games of the Phillies’ homestand. He has been bothered by a sore left Achilles tendon caused by an uncomfortable new pair of spikes, and after grounding into a double play in the fourth inning Wednesday, he hobbled to first base. “It looked like he couldn’t turn it on,” Manuel said. “He kind of gimped. It looked like it might’ve been bothering him.”

    Apparently the groin injury may have occurred when Ibanez attempted to avoid a doubleplay in straining to outrace the relay to first base.

    The Phillies, unlike the Mets and other teams, have been fortunate to avoid injury to their position players early in the season. It’s now catching up to them.

13. Steve-o Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:13 am

    ut-oh. I’m partially excited to see Big John, but it looks like the injury bug is coming to our city.

14. Jeff Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Sorry boys but this season will end…NOW. No pitching. No leadoff hitter. No closer..and a manager that just makes excuses. Cant wait to see Moyer against Tampa. There outfilder said he cant wait. He runs baby…

15. Steve-o Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    In a partially unrelated note, my fantasy team is getting killed right now. I’ve now lost Votto, Aramis, Peavy, and Ibanez to the DL right now…

16. pb Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:16 am

    Maybe Charlie should’ve giving him a day or two off earlier in the season or pulled from some of the games that were one sided, the guy is 37 after all.

17. Terri Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:17 am

    From Ruben Amaro Jr.: The groin strain is unrelated to the Achilles’ problem and has been bothering Ibanez on and off since April, although he only made the Phillies aware of the injury last week. Ibanez will undergo an MRI exam later today, and it’s possible, Amaro said, that he could miss more than 15 days.

    “There was no reason for him to talk me out of [putting him on the disabled list],” Amaro said. “If he was clearly hurting, he can hurt himself even more if he continued to play.”

18. Don M Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:20 am

    What excuses is the manager making?

    Ibanez has been the most consistent player on the team this season.. no need to give him days off unless he was hurting.. which he finally did.

    Lets not blame the manager for injuries, and the hitting coach for lack-of contact last night..

19. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:21 am

    The fact that the mets are only 3 games back with all the injuries they have had is absolutely pathetic

20. Chuck Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:22 am

    Everybody…..Jeff are you listening??…..just SETTLE DOWN. We have the ability to get through this. Mayberry is a good talent and, while Rauuuuuul will be missed, we should be able to weather this.

    Pitching, however, is a huge issue. I don’t know about you guys, but I’m really sick of watching Moyer talking to reporters in the locker room about how he has no answers for his poor performances and as to why the Phillies can’t win at home.

21. Don M Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    That fact that Our closer, our #2 starter, and now our best hitter are all hit with injuries.. and we’re still 3 games up! is absolutely awesome

22. JeffS Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Don M’s glass isn’t half-full, it’s overflowing!

23. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:32 am

    your best hitter just went on the DL….your #2 starter sucked anyway…..and your closer also sucked

24. Chuck Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:32 am

    It IS awesome…..good thing the injuries are coming early enough. Ok…Myers is probably done….but Lidge and Raul will come back strong and with some pitching help (hopefully) we should be ok. I’m excited to see Mayberry, too. Someone mentioned the silver lining of getting to see him everyday for awhile…which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

25. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Have fun trying to upgrade your horrendous pitching staff also….Peavy (DL), Bedard (DL), top prospects are hurt, your only hope would be Oswalt- and Houston has indicated they dont want to trade him

26. Chuck Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Explain how Brett Myers “sucked” any more than any of our other pitchers besides Hamels.

27. Phil Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    I say they call up Michael Taylor and see what this kid can do. He’s 23. He’s old enough and ready for the majors. He’s projected to be a future all-star. He is raking in AA. AA is the spring board to the majors. That is where all the best talent is. AAA is just a holding station. Let Taylor come show us all what he can do. Anyone with me?

28. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:36 am

    Well Brett Myers might be the worst “Number 2″ starter in baseball, but I guess your right he was good for the Phillies

29. raul Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:38 am

    jays bring out the broms baby!

30. JeffS Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Phil, you know I have a man crush on Taylor, but I don’t want him called up yet. If he does well, he could end up trade bait. Besides, position-wise, we want Taylor in left, not right.

31. Phil Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:39 am

    Dan, get out of here you little homer. Stop acting like the Mets are god’s gift to baseball. They have the best 3B and CF in the NL but after that they have Reyes who is good, but not nearly as great as everyone thinks he is(see his OBP for reasons why) and Delgado who is pushing 40. Who are the Mets corner outfielders again? And don’t get me started on Luis Castillo. Then there is that suspect pitching staff that outside of Santana isn’t all that good. Santana also seems to be having some issues as well. The bullpen is very much improved, but that’s it. With or without injuries the Phillies are still a better team.

32. JeffS Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:39 am

    I got those reversed – should stop working and doing this at the same time

33. Ben Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:40 am

    If only Justin Verlander or King Felix were available…

34. Phil Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:40 am

    JeffS, Taylor plays LF now, and besides Werth can play left anyway.

35. John Fire Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Welp, that settles it. The sky is falling.

36. JeffS Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    I like his arm better in right, although the thought of Taylor and Werth in the outfiield — might keep some runners from going home.

37. jeff Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    hey

38. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Great now theres a Dan that’s obvious a Mets fan posting here. Can’t the Mets fans stay on their own blogs i’ve been posting on this site under this name for several years. (Phillies fan Dan) :/

39. psujoe Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    This is exactly why Mayberry or a 4th outfielder that can play should’ve been on the roster. I’ve been saying all along that Werth and Victoino are injury prone and need breaks. Ibanez is 37 and should be getting days off periosidclaly as well. A guy like Mayberry could easily get 200+ ABs as a rotating starter and bench player.

40. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Your right Reyes is no Jimmy Rollins

41. A.J. Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:45 am

    Those with glass houses should not throw stones, Dan. You have a good third basemen and the rest are all second rate. You are second by default, when your team fields balls, tags bases and stops commiting stupid errors then come back and talk.

42. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Speaking of second rate….the city of Philadelphia as compared to New York

43. Jack Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:48 am

    Its amazing that every time a guy has a rough few games or so, they automatically blame it on an injury. Ruben said this has been bothering him since April? I couldnt find this more hard to believe. I would love for Charlie to say in the Locker Room, “If you are hurt… get it taken care of, stop bitching and making excuses and come back ready to play. If not tell Kyle Kendrick I said hi! This includes all 25 players on the roster, from Utley to Tacshner!” Its getting annoying people and we cant trade away 42 prospects for 3 pitchers, an Outfielder, a SS and a bench bat or 2. Man the F*** up already! 2008 is over, time to sober up!!!

44. Jack Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Dan seriously shut up. All your doing is wasting time because most people look right past your posts. Your probably from the “outskirts” of New York anyway you phucking blow j.

45. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    P*ss off Dan, and go back to your Mets blog, seriously. I don’t get these Mets fans coming to a Phillies blog and now I am lucky enough to have one who shares a name with me. Just great.

46. Don M Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    You could put Jose Reyes’ at SS and combined they wouldn’t be as good defensively as Rollins..

    my glass isn’t overflowing yet.. but it’s June 18th.. and we lost games to the RedSox and BlueJays .. last time I checked, they are two of the better teams in baseball

    I won’t be surprised at all if we take 2-of-3 from Toronto when we’re up there next weekend.. its baseball and it’s a LONG season

    Here in Philadelphia.. our team worries about winning games when the pressure is on.. not jumping out to early division leads only to serve them them up late in the season

47. Don M Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    two* Jose Reyes’ ..

    His OBP is better than Rollins.. but until he LEADS that team somewhere.. you can’t say he’s better..

    David Wright is a hell of a ballplayer.. but also isn’t great defensively..

    Beltran reminds me of Utley.. a non-vocal leader.. who makes too much money, but is among the best overall players in baseball

    It doesn’t say much about the Braves if they can’t jump on us, or the Mets with all these injuries

48. psujoe Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:58 am

    Philadelphia second rate to New York? LMAO. new York is going broke. I hope you enjoy your 25% taxes!

49. A.J. Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    I do not live in Philly or PA, Dan, and I enjoy my lower taxes, so try another argument. Wait, I seem to remember 2007 and 2008 when the Mets wrapped up the East Division – OH WAIT – forgot… That was us.

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    June 18th, 2009 at 12:21 pm

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51. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Mets will be in first place by week’s end. You all are done, done, done for the season and we are going to be league champions this year, it is our year. I am getting tingly down there just thinking about this. Seriously, it is growing down there with the thought of my Mets taking over your city. LET’S GO METS

52. NJ Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    There goes his MVP bid…

53. Chris Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Mets will be in first soon.
    This is coming from a die hard Phils fan.

54. Bruce Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    NJ, individual awards are the last thing on Ibanez’s mind (as well as the fans). He wants to recover from his injuries as soon as possible knowing his team needs him in what shapes up as a very tight race to the end of the season.

55. Phil Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Dan is getting tingly down there thinking about K-Rod.

56. NJ Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    No doubt, Ibanez is a pro. The MVP is more for us fans (and all those haters of his signing)

57. Bruce Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Gloom and doom in June for Chris. Are you going to put away your Phillies’ banner and cap for the remaining 3 months and 99 games?

58. Dan Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Yes, K-Rod does that to me as does Beltran

59. David, the Mets fan from Queens Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Regardless of Ibañez’s groin injury, the Phillies are still one of the most feared teams in the National League. I also believe that Phillies fans can now empathize with Mets fans as their most versatile and prolific ball player is ailing.

    The Phillies now have an overused bullpen, an inconsistent starting rotation, and as of recently, an ailing star player. It is for these mentioned reasons that my decimated Mets have a chance to gain some ground in the NL East. If the Phillies had played the type of baseball that was expected of them from the very beginning of this season, they would have been the equivalent to the 2006 New York Mets; they would have been running away with the NL East.

    Alas, there’s time left in this tumultuous 2009 season.

60. A.J. Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    You know what bugs me? We think we don’t have a chance. Last year we lost first in June when Willie Randolph was fired, in ohhhhh, late June. We bounced back, made the right moves and are WFCs. Will we bounce back? I do hope so, but right now, let’s not be gloomy yet. We are only one of two good teams, according to Power Alley, in the NL. We just are slumping just like last year. I am hanging my Phillies Phlags and wearing my gear. I am fine with it. Am I nervous, sure am, but I know we can do it. As #20 said, we are a much better team than the Mets and we can take back what we give away. My only issue is we cannot take them out of the picture.

61. A.J. Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    David – yes, but I still feel as though the Mets management will never allow the Mets to win as is. We have issues, but the Mets have more. Also, your best player is still on the field. Ours isn’t. Hence, you may be in first, but management will never allow it for long.

62. Chuck P Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Impatience… we would all love to be 20 games up right now and fully healthy and talking about how good we are but the fact of the matter is that baseball is a long, grueling season. Injuries happen… slumps happen… there is no such thing as a perfect team. If you’re Ruben of Cha’lie, you gotta be patient… play your cards right and weather these storms. In the end, you have to hope that all of this brings this team together.

    I don’t think that we need to do anything drastic right now. Making decisions out of necessity means that you’re overpaying and probably acting out of desperation (we could end up with another Freddy Garcia). We should let other teams show their cards and then position this team for the postseason stretch. We have glaring deficiencies… primarily a #2 starter… but right now is not the time to start making irrational decisions. You gotta go with what you’ve got, let it all shake out and jump on the right guy at the right price.

    Resting Ibanez is the right thing to do. We need him healthy in September… this group has showed me that they are a team of destiny and I believe that everything happens for a reason. Right now, things couldn’t look worse except for one glaring point that overrides everything; we are in first place. Let’s not get crazy…

63. Lets go MEts Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    hahahhahahhahahhahahahhah

64. Chuck Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Dan is sick.

    Chris is a loser.

    Go Phils!!

65. Chuck Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    Well said Chuck P…..it’s a LOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGGG season!!

66. Grrrumpy Miner Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Okay,with Ibanez out from what everyone says and thinks could be til the All-Star break.Problem from what I see for the Phils is the same problem the Amazins had in 08,and thats a bullpen that is handing games to the opposition,and will the REAL Jimmy Rollins please stand up.Cole seems to have woken up and Happ has been a pleasant surprise for your pitching.As Gary Cohen said last week Ibanez is the Free Agent signing of the year.Just don’t give up the ship with Ibanez,Myers and Lidge yet….BUT,this does help my Amazins,and they have their own injuries too.

67. SuperLogoz Says:
    June 18th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    We need everyone to get on the same page – Rollins, Lidge and Myers need to get going.

    RAUUUUL – Hopefully, 15 days and he will be back.

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68. paul garrett Says:
    June 19th, 2009 at 12:30 am

    Two things I am certain of: The Phils will win again and eventually the sun will shine.

69. paul garrett Says:
    June 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Two things I am certain of: The Phils will win again and eventually the sun will shine.
    Oops…forgot to say great post! Looking forward to your next one.

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