Gameday: Blue Jays (36-31) At Phillies (36-27)

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Thu, June 18, 2009 11:49 AM

jayslogo Toronto Blue Jays (36-31) at Philadelphia Phillies (36-27)
Brad Mills vs. Joe Blanton (4-3, 5.17 ERA)
Time: 1:05 p.m. at Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia
Weather: Cloudy, 67
TV: Comcast SportsNet
Twitter: Phillies Nation

Joe Blanton and the Phillies will face off with Brad Mills and the Blue Jays for a Business Person’s Special today at the Bank.

Mills is making his major league debut against the Phillies. He was selected in the fourth round of the 2007 draft, ascending the Jays’ system quickly thanks to some high strikeout numbers. Mills went 3-2 with a 1.10 ERA for triple-A New Hampshire this season, getting the call to Toronto because Casey Janssen hit the disabled list with shoulder inflammation. The lefty has a weird delivery, throwing a lot of curveballs and changeups with his fastball to get his strikeouts.

The Phils will be without its best lefty hitter, as Raul Ibanez hit the disabled list today. In his place comes John Mayberry Jr., who will start in right field today. Jayson Werth goes to left field; meanwhile, Jimmy Rollins will lead off and Mayberry will hit seventh.

Your gameday beer: We’re feeling pretty crummy lately, so we need something hard and strong. I suggest Bigfoot by Sierra Nevada. This Barleywine is loaded with flavor and alcohol content, coming in at more than 9 percent. It’ll hit you like a ton of bricks. Get ready for the Gs. We sure need them today.

Go Phillies!

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323 Responses to “Gameday: Blue Jays (36-31) At Phillies (36-27)”

  1. Morris Buttermaker Says:

    Ok guys, we got a game with the Blue Jays today. And that only means one thing. Bad news for the Blue Jays!

  2. Caleb Says:

    With these at-home numbers, I wonder if I should pull for the AL at the all-star game this year.

  3. JeffS Says:

    I can’t have a gameday beer for a !:00 game.

  4. The Little Guy Says:

    Morris, no, it’s bad news for the Phillies..

    You do say that same line everyday don’t you? lol

  5. John Fire Says:

    hey tim – nice call on the big foot barleywine! a great, great beer. i’ve got a few in the fridge that i might tap into tonight.

  6. Bruce Says:

    Just a quick comment on the Toronto’s patchwork rotation and yet another rookie pitcher starting today. It’s amazing to see the Blue Jays hanging tough in their division when they lost ALL FIVE of their starters to injuries. It’s an indication of how talented their position players are and the depth for replacements (pitchers).

  7. metsblow4show Says:

    Hey Tim, New Hampshire is the Blue Jays Double A affiliate, not Triple A. I saw them 3 weeks ago against the Reading Phillies.

  8. Tim Malcolm Says:

    Oh, right, sorry. He’s a double-A callup.

  9. Griffin Says:

    A crappy day and the Phillies crappy play have put us all in a crappy mood.

    Only 10 more games and then it’s intraleague time!!

  10. Bruce Says:

    The rain has been steady here in Central NJ. The same in Philly?

  11. The Little Guy Says:

    Why don’t they just post-pone the game until like 7:05? When the weather is supposed to clear up? No point in starting the game since it’s going to be a steady rain. They have a home game tomorrow anyway.

  12. Griffin Says:

    1st and 2nd no out and we don’t even get a guy to 3rd base.

  13. Philly Geoff Says:

    Depressing. I don’t know what to make of this team, but I am loving Joey B. these days. Hopefully, I don’t have to eat these words in the near future.

  14. Tracey Says:

    OK: No sweeps allowed. Let’s take these birds down.

  15. Tracey Says:

    ugh.

  16. Griffin Says:

    Raul freaking Chavez hits a home run. The backup freaking catcher.

  17. Philly Geoff Says:

    I give up. Just awful…

  18. Griffin Says:

    50 pitches through 2 innings for Blanton. Looks like the pen will get abused again.

  19. Geoff Says:

    This pitching staff has COMPLETELY melted down and burned out and tanked. EVERY one of these guys has looked like garbage at some point this season. IF YOURE GOING TO BUILD A SMALL BALLPARK YOU NEED CRAZY GOOD PITCHING! Yes, Happ and Hamels are still going well, Blanton is ok. But TOO MANY home runs, too LITTLE innings pitched leads to a tired burned out and injured bullpen.

    Amaro and Charlie get it, they know they need at least one SP and oone RP, and a bat. but theyre trying to get away with buying time until the deadline. GUESS WHAT GUYS? YOU DONT HAVE THAT TIME. You have to start making moves THIS WEEK.

  20. Philly Geoff Says:

    I am watching the play by play and I can already see the Werth at bat play out… look at strikes and swing at balls, missing badly.

  21. Geoff Says:

    Thank you Jayson Werth.

  22. Tracey Says:

    Ah… that’s more like it…

  23. JeffS Says:

    Forget the bullpen…we need 10 starting pitchers, so each one can pitch a half game.

  24. Philly Geoff Says:

    Sweet… the re-jinx is on!

  25. A.J. Says:

    I am sick of the gloom here

  26. JeffS Says:

    AJ – sorry, I was trying to be funny.

  27. Philly Geoff Says:

    Can anyone who is watching the game on TV give me an update on the weather? All I am getting through Gamecast is a light rain.

  28. Geoff Says:

    Look, theyre still in first, but we know what it takes to win and we ALL know they need a few more good arms if theyre going to repeat this time. Thats TOTALLY feasible to get which is why I still think theyre going to repeat.

  29. A.J. Says:

    JeffS – not you. Just everyone implying the season is over. We’ll be fine, maybe not in June, but we’ll be fine.

  30. Griffin Says:

    way to hold the runner there, Joe.

  31. Geoff Says:

    Guarnateed Charlie gets thrown out of this game…

  32. Marc H Says:

    These American league clubs are just flat out better than we are. The Blkue jays would probably anyt division other than the AL East

  33. Geoff Says:

    NOBODY is saying the season is over..NOBODY. They CLEARLY need help though, and they cant afford to wait to go and get that help.

  34. JeffS Says:

    Why? What is Charlie doing? I hate weekday afternoon games…we should put a TV in our office.

  35. Geoff Says:

    No theyre not. THe Phillies are one of the top 2/3 teams in abseball talentwise. theyre just not PLAYING like we know they can…its called a slump offensively.

    Pitching wise the Phillies need help.

  36. A.J. Says:

    Geoff – read the other board. They are, they are.

  37. Geoff Says:

    Theyre playing so bad that if I was the manager id get thrown out to try and fire them up and because i cant even watch them scuffle like this without blowing up.

  38. A.J. Says:

    No – we are a better team. They are PLAYING better.

  39. Griffin Says:

    The Phillies starting pitching is getting beat down by the worst offense in the AL East.

  40. Griffin Says:

    70 pitches through 3

  41. Dan Says:

    You all are doomed. LET’S GO METS. They are playing the Os, which you all could not even beet in 1983

  42. Greg B Says:

    This is the worst series of the season. Charlie needs to get tossed or something.

  43. Greg B Says:

    My bad, didn’t notice that had already been discussed.

  44. Geoff Says:

    Look, this is happening because the club is taking too long to bring in help..so the universe is basically beating Amaro over the head saying ” YOU CANT WAIT THAT LONG, YOU HAVE TO MOVE NOW” Its making it really obvious that they need TWO starting pitchers not just one. Moyer…SEYA PAL, Bastardo..BULLPEN. bring in cliff lee & a RH 4th starter. bring in bullpen help, bring in bench help.

  45. Griffin Says:

    Have the Phils been swept in a 3 game series this year? I know they lost both games of a 2 game series against the Mets, but have they been swept in a 3 game series?

  46. Dan Says:

    Yes Griffin, they did LOOSE to the METS. LETS GO METS

  47. Geoff Says:

    IM SICK of arguing about Moyer…its over, get it over with, hes gone. GONE. THey need to beef up their rotation now, screw him. He can only beat bad teams now.

    they have a DEEP farm system and theyre going to need that depth once theyre finished dealing prospects.

  48. PGD Says:

    the phillies should petition to play all their games on the road

  49. A.J. Says:

    Moyer is not done. he is fine. We also do NOT need to blow up the farm system or we will be the Washington Nationals in 2012 until 2018

  50. Griffin Says:

    I wish we were playing the Nationals this weekend

  51. Dan Says:

    You all are no fun

  52. rivlez Says:

    Listening to this game on my iPhone. The commentators suck and the one guy sounds like Rocky. HAHA

  53. Geoff Says:

    I didnt say blow it up…I said WE HAVE THE DEPTH TO GO OUT AND GET HELP AND STILL HAVE A GOOD FARM SYSTEM LEFT.

  54. Greg B Says:

    Yes, whenever we’ve hit the doldrums thus far the Nationals were there to spare us. There was a nice Utley for MVP on Baseball Tonight. Big hit here would be nice. Someone needs to put this limping team on their shoulders.

  55. Dan Says:

    rivlez – Yes, LET’S GO METS, friend. We will be in first this weekend and it will be glorius to stick it to these boo birds. HAHAHAHHA

  56. rivlez Says:

    what a double play ball right now….

  57. The Little Guy Says:

    This weather blows.

  58. rivlez Says:

    Some of you guys are absolutely ridiculous. YOU ARE 36-27 FOR CHRIST SAKE!!! Just by reading what most of you write, I would swear you guys are last place in the NL. Just calm down. Every team goes through bad stretches.

  59. The Little Guy Says:

    This pitcher reminds me of Zito..anyone else?

  60. Miles Says:

    That was ball four but I’ll take the sac fly. His at bats are emotional roller coasters….he looks terrible on almost every pitch but there is always a chance he’s going to rip one in the gap. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anything like it.

  61. Greg B Says:

    pick pick pick. Blow the gates open, Feliz.

  62. The Little Guy Says:

    Yeah, i agree with rivlez, (who i assume is a Mets Fan). This bitching and whining about the team is ridiculous. Who cares if they don’t play well against the AL it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. They play well against all the NL competition, and thats what they do every year in the 2nd half, so calm the hell down.

  63. beta sigma shag Says:

    at least J wreth got the run in, this guy onlly throw junk they should crush him

  64. Miles Says:

    Joe: Please keep this game where it is at. Please.

  65. Chuck Says:

    Yeah…all you guys need to freakin calm down. I think we win this game today.

  66. rivlez Says:

    The Little Guy, I am a Mets fan that reads lots of blogs and have been on this site for a few years. Mets fans and Phillies fans are the same shit. They lose a game and the world is over. All I read lately is get this guy and that guy. If it was only that easy. I think the biggest culprit this year has been the bullpen this year for the Phillies. The offense had the same outages as this year but the bullpen was ridiculous. We’ll see what happens.

  67. Greg B Says:

    Have the strikes been hard to come by this homestand? The pitch counts and walks have been ridiculous.

  68. beta sigma shag Says:

    geoff needs to take a break, Moyer is your fifth starter he is going to have outing like that he will be in the rotation all year, the offense needs to score like 10 runs against this AAA pitcher who is affraid to thow a fast ball to anyone

  69. psujoe Says:

    geoff, I have to agree on Moyer. He’s just painful to watch. All a team has to do is be somewhat patient and it’s game over. We have to get pitching and now or the pen is going to be destroyed.

  70. The Little Guy Says:

    Rivlez, completely agree. As long as the Mets lose when the Phillies lose….who cares? Its the AL, these games don’t matter in the grand scheme of things. The Phils went 3-11 last year in interleague, won the NL East, Won the Pennant, Won the World Series. I guess everyone would of been much happier had they took 2 of 3 from the Angels last year, and swept the A’s.

    Its 3-2 bot 4, put the razor blades down.

  71. Marc H Says:

    The Blue Jays are a good team and the Phillies might have been due for a let down. It’s just frustating to keep losing @ home

  72. beta sigma shag Says:

    good quick inning for JB actually home from work today, did not realize they were on this afternoon, bad fan bad fan, so I will check in during breaks buy I can actually watch it live instead of dvr today.
    Missed the runs how did the Jays score was it a three run hr by the catcher

  73. Jeff Says:

    I just wish a Phillies pitcher could go 7. Blanton has 81 pitches in only the 4th inning. Hopefully he can streth out 6 innings. This bullpen is dying.

  74. rivlez Says:

    2 run HR by the catcher and RBI double by Wells

  75. The Little Guy Says:

    shag, 2 run homer by the backup catcher, and rbi double by Wells.

  76. The Little Guy Says:

    Jeff, i disagree, i think they should make Blanton go 7, i really dont care what his pitch count is, as long as he keeps the score the same, keep him in the game, let him throw 120 pitches or so, he has 4 off days coming anyway.

    Pitch counts are the death of baseball. For a starter to pitch 6 innings and give up 3 runs, they praise him, thats a joke.

  77. Lets go Mets Says:

    Sweep Sweep Sweep

  78. Miles Says:

    Btw…I brought this up a couple weeks ago but imagine if Eaton was still on the Orioles and was on the mound this weekend. I promise you the walk-up ticket sales would have set a record. And it would have gotten our offense back on track. Damn.

    YES JIMMMMYYYYY

  79. Greg B Says:

    ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLINS!

  80. The Little Guy Says:

    Rollins 2 for 2. single, 2 run homer, and bb.

    Wheres the Jason Donald slurpers?

  81. Griffin Says:

    Nice

  82. rivlez Says:

    There you go

  83. beta sigma shag Says:

    nice JRoll, walks will kill you way to walk the pitcher, is that two hits for JRoll today, still need to take him out of leadoff now or will he be a god if they win this game today

  84. Greg B Says:

    Yes Blanton has got 140 pitches in him today.
    Would LOVE to see JRoll really heat up. That alone would fix our wagon.
    I suppose the starters need to start going deeper into games.

  85. Jeff Says:

    Little guy relax. Nobody is yelling for Jason Donald. Jimmy has a long way to go before we can start jumping up and down. He has been so bad this year. I hope he starts to get back to his all star status…

  86. Miles Says:

    Well with all of the damage we have been allowing the visiting pitchers to do to us, that walk by Blanton returned some of the damage by getting us two runs. I’m going to count that as a second bomb by Blanton since I know he will never hit another.

  87. The Little Guy Says:

    Jeff, he has been hitting the ball hard for about 3 weeks now, now their finding holes, and the stands.

  88. Chuck P Says:

    J-Rollin…

  89. beta sigma shag Says:

    Well Jimmy seems to be doing ok leading off today huh,
    And as much as this is going to kill me to say, cause LIttle guy is usually full of sht I have to agree with him there

  90. Miles Says:

    shag you know just I do that everytime he has a bad game all of the managers will come on here and say MOVE HIM DOWN! But as I’ve said before, Jimmy is an all-star caliber player and he needs to perform wherever he is in the lineup. Charlie should not have to keep moving him around. You only lead off the first.

  91. The Little Guy Says:

    Haha Sarge is the man. When he joins the booth it seems like all the praising of the Phillies and what not stops. He tells it like it is and doesnt make excuses like Wheels and TMac.

  92. Dave Says:

    What’s with Werth lately? Seems like every other hit he’s gotten these last couple days has gone long.
    Oh, and good job Jimmy. Haha, shouldn’t have walked the pitcher

  93. The Little Guy Says:

    shag? Full of shit? What are you talking about?

  94. Miles Says:

    I’ve said it before but the strike zone that is called against Howard is one of the biggest that I’ve ever seen. Pitchers still get the low pitches but also get pitches that are way up. It contributes to him being behind in the count a lot more than he should. No excuses though, still gotta find a way to knock one through there.

  95. The Little Guy Says:

    Miles, it’s because he’s a big man.

  96. beta sigma shag Says:

    Another quick inning by JB would be nice here, 140 is a bit high but between 110 125, and how was that 2-1 pitch to howard a strike it was below his knees

  97. Miles Says:

    Little guy I realize that but the strike zone needs to be more consistent. Just because a guy is huge shouldn’t change the zone as much as umps generally change it.

    Oh boy here we go again.

  98. Griffin Says:

    damn it, Blanton.

  99. Jeff Says:

    Boy Blanton is going to give it right back.

  100. The Little Guy Says:

    Well the strike zone is from the knees to the letters, so…People like Howard, Randy Johnson have huge strikezones. Than you have Eckstein, Pedroia and Victorino with smaller strikezones..

  101. Justin Says:

    even if people were calling for Jason Donald the kid’s on the DL with torn meniscus so he’s out up til mid July. just throwing that out there to Little Guy.

  102. The Little Guy Says:

    Justin, i know. I was being sarcastic.

  103. Miles Says:

    Little Guy, when ESPN or MLB.com or whoever use their KZone technologies it doesn’t all of a sudden get bigger when Howard walks up or smaller when Vic does. My point is not that the zone shouldn’t change, but that it is too drastic. Otherwise you could just throw 5 foot nothing guys up there all game and hope for walks.

  104. Justin Says:

    Way to fight back Joe!

  105. Griffin Says:

    Nice escape job by Joe B.

  106. beta sigma shag Says:

    way to bare down JB and thanks J’s for first pitch swinging, that is the JB i know and love, never rattled just get the job done, now is time for the O to get some insurance runs

  107. Griffin Says:

    98 pitches through 5 for Blanton.

  108. j reed Says:

    shag: was watching post-game show one night and Batalico and Mitch made an interesting point…Most lead off guys only lead off once a game which is the first inning, after that, chances are you won’t be batting first….I think batting behind the pitcher which happens more often than not, means you’ll not get alot to look at strike wise….how ever batting between Ibanez and the resurgent Feliz means pitchers can’t paint or afford to throw to many balls…

  109. Miles Says:

    What an escape by Blanton btw

  110. Chuck P Says:

    I agree with you, Miles… he’s a big guy to begin with so his strike zone is bigger than most to begin with but he doesn’t do himself any favors, either. I mean, he stands so far off of the plate and he’s so tall that most pitchers know that he can’t reach balls low and outside. A lot of umps will call those strikes because they’re tailing across the plate and it’s tougher to judge height… most of those pitches that are strikes for everyone else (normal sized guys) probably should not be for Howard.

  111. Miles Says:

    SEEEEYAAA

  112. The Little Guy Says:

    Okay John

  113. beta sigma shag Says:

    John MAYBERRY

  114. beta sigma shag Says:

    it will be nice to see what the kid can do playing everyday

  115. Miles Says:

    good point about the stance Chuck….although I think you would probably agree that if he did move closer to the plate people would just jam him all the time. I’m not sure he would be helping himself out that way either.

  116. Chuck P Says:

    What did I tell you??? When Ibanez gets back, Mayberry deserves a legitimate chance to be our RH bench bat… he is an opportunistic kid. Every time he gets a moment to shine, he takes it. Isn’t that what you want from a pinch hitter? I don’t think that he has to play every day to be successful… he’s not going to forget how to shag fly balls. I think that he’ll gain confidence by spending time in the bigs and getting his moments.

  117. Miles Says:

    And Chooch turns the lineup over. I bet Wheels is wetting himself with excitement.

  118. Chuck P Says:

    You’re probably right, Miles… he’s not a great inside hitter, either. I guess that he’s doing what’s best for him.

  119. Chuck Says:

    Way to go Mayberry!!!!!!!!

    Werth….3 homers in the last 3 games and 4 in the past 5 days or so. Just what we need from him at this time

    J-Roll!!!!!!!

  120. beta sigma shag Says:

    I agree, I like JRoll at the lead off spot, and you are right you only lead off once a game usually, maybe two, I was just saying so many people were saying where he was hitting was making him a worse hitter

  121. Chuck Says:

    I agree. Chuck P…..Mayberry for the RH pinch hitter/4th outfielder/spot starter. Get the kid 200 ABs and he’ll do ok.

  122. Chuck P Says:

    Adam Lind is some kind of hitter…

  123. Griffin Says:

    well that’s great

  124. Terri Says:

    We were doing so good.

  125. Griffin Says:

    ok, that’s enough of Blanton. I understand that Chollie wanted Blanton to pitch one more inning, but he’s done.

  126. The Little Guy Says:

    Chan HO!

  127. Chuck P Says:

    Mayberry just seems to shine when you tell him, “Alright, you’re going to get a chance… it will probably be a few at bats… make the most of it.” He loves that kind of pressure…

    Blanton not getting it done…

  128. Chuck P Says:

    C’mon, Ho…

  129. Marc H Says:

    The Jays have been relentless in this series

  130. j reed Says:

    miles – strike zone’s height is a function of player’s height…the revised parameters are supposed to be under the arm pits to bottom of the knees….that’s why Pete Rose and Bowa had hunched over batting stances…it shrunk the strike zone but compromised there power which didn’t matter as they hit for contact

  131. The Little Guy Says:

    Parks 2 seamer is coming in nice lately.

  132. The Little Guy Says:

    Right on j reed, right on..

  133. The Little Guy Says:

    He has been nasty lately. I’m digging it.

  134. Tracey Says:

    WHEW!!! OK, so Blanton still has a chance of picking up a W. Park always makes me nervous…

  135. Griffin Says:

    Chan Ho is a pimp

  136. Chuck P Says:

    this Toronto lineup is pretty good… everyone except Vernon Wells is batting over .275.

    Great job, Ho.

  137. beta sigma shag Says:

    never easy but Chan Ho did the job,

  138. Miles Says:

    Money out of the pen baby! No more starts for you Chan Ho!

  139. Miles Says:

    After his recent run of success I’m going to place him above So, but still behind Tad. He will need to be effective for a couple months yet to pass Tad.

  140. Mark Says:

    Phils traded Donald, Escalona and Cash Considerations to Milwaukee for Dave Bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  141. j reed Says:

    yeah, little guy i think when he uses it with the slider he does well…sometimes he tries to pitch a more asian style game as and he gets to, well for lack of a better word …”pitcherly” for his own good

  142. j reed Says:

    mark – where’d you hear that?

  143. The Little Guy Says:

    Yeah i second j reed. I just went on mlb trade rumors, nothing on there..

  144. Mark Says:

    Joke

  145. The Little Guy Says:

    Cool! Mark

  146. j reed Says:

    I can see whjy lh batters would have a hard time with that Jays reliever

  147. j reed Says:

    Chan Ho – keep it stupid- two pitches: two seamer and slider.

  148. Miles Says:

    That was a cannon by Mayberry, but didn’t he kind of take his time after he picked the ball up there?

  149. Terri Says:

    Yea, Mayberry made a mistake taking his time and now it has cost them. Tie game

  150. tk Says:

    i wish chan ho was still pitching….ugh..romero cant find the strike zone!!

  151. Miles Says:

    This is a nightmarish outing by JC

  152. Griffin Says:

    Romero looking awful

  153. Terri Says:

    Also, this team has trouble keeping one run leads. I am not a fan of Romero b/c he is too wild. Bases Loaded.

  154. Miles Says:

    That was so close at first. What in the world is Chavez doing turning around?!

  155. tk Says:

    romero has been REALLY wild lately…

  156. JeffS Says:

    That did not just happen? I need to pick me up some of that 9% beer.

  157. tk Says:

    jeez romero has a lot of luck

  158. Miles Says:

    Well he sure has the flair for the dramatic. Just can’t make it any easier on yourself can you JC…..

  159. j reed Says:

    well mr. ump
    finally calling the corners?

  160. Griffin Says:

    Let’s get some freaking runs

  161. The Dipsy Says:

    Miles. You’re back. You got a little angry yesterday. Someone post under your name?

    The Dipsy

    “Always striving to make the Phillies a better team”

  162. Geoff Says:

    Romero hasnt been the same since coming back and being “clean.” Romero has imploded completely and has been largely useless. Their needs grow by the day.

    They need help now. Starting, Relief…now. Like this weekend.

  163. Miles Says:

    @Dipsy: Yeah it wasn’t that that really bothered me though. Just general disrespect of everyone on here and just player bashing. I come on here to talk about the Phillies not fight with other posters and make ridiculous comments.

  164. Dennis of VA Says:

    Last 5 batters have struck out…Where is the discipline?

  165. Philly Geoff Says:

    Is that 5 KOs swinging a row by our top 5 hitters?

  166. Griffin Says:

    That was a quick inning

  167. The Dipsy Says:

    Do you think player bashing is ever warranted?

    The Dipsy

  168. j reed Says:

    Jayson Werth’s strikeouts look like Howard’s but just from the right side

  169. Miles Says:

    Geoff you have been saying Romero was going to be ineffective since before he came back so I think you are a little biased. Let’s move on from the suspension please. His ERA is almost right at 1.00 so I don’t think that’s a problem. He’s always been wild so that’s nothing new.

  170. Jeff Says:

    Romero has not been the same since the first year with the team. I do not like him in our bullpen. Very hittable. God this is Toronto. Not the yankees or boston. They are average at best and will be out of the race soon enough…

  171. The Little Guy Says:

    Dipsy…Honestly, what does me or you bitching going to solve? What we say has NO relevance to what Charlie, Ruben, the players will do. Thats why im with Miles. Bashing players over and over is worthless because it solves NOTHING

  172. Chuck P Says:

    Clay needs a good outing… been on a downward trend lately.

  173. Miles Says:

    @Dipsy: I just think there is a difference between being critical of someone and saying that they are totally and completely useless. I also think player bashing should be put on hold for a year after someone wins a WS. You can’t be successful everyday in baseball.

  174. The Little Guy Says:

    It’s because Romero is being used more against RH batters than the usual LH on LH situation.

  175. Chuck P Says:

    so much for that idea…

  176. Miles Says:

    Ouch Pedro.

  177. Terri Says:

    Wow, Feliz.

  178. The Little Guy Says:

    The whole team seems to be out of it. The Youkilis play where he stole 3rd on the drop by howard. The Scutaro play earlier, then the Rolen base running play. Rollins and Feliz errors.

    The Phillies NEVER give those plays up, and for some reason are lately..

  179. Miles Says:

    Well this sucks.

  180. Griffin Says:

    Crappy starting pitching, disappointing offense, disastrous bullpen and now shoddy defense. Yup, all the ingredients for a sweep are now in place.

  181. Geoff Says:

    BURNED-OUT. RED ALERT! The Pitching staff is in need of help…NOW.

  182. rivlez Says:

    Condrey sucks?

  183. tk Says:

    take condrey out!!!!!!

  184. The Little Guy Says:

    Geoff, thanks for stating the obvious….over and over again..

  185. Griffin Says:

    Scott Rolen reminds Philadelphia that they still haven’t replaced him.

  186. rivlez Says:

    Rolen is loving playing the Phillies LOL

  187. Geoff Says:

    Yes, the WHOLE team is totally scuffling right now. Total meltdown this week.

  188. Terri Says:

    I don’t know what is happening with the Phils. They are just not playing good basesball. Ugh, what a bad series for them. Everything has been fallen apart lately.

  189. Steve-o Says:

    this game is over.

  190. Justin Says:

    Wow Clay you are just awesome, 2 games you’ve now killed us in this series how bout you tell MLB Network all about it, bum.

  191. Geoff Says:

    Do you need me to say it again just in case?

  192. Dennis of VA Says:

    This team needs pitching like the Eagles needed recievers! Better get it before its too late! Oh and Ive been reading everyones comments since i got back from Iraq and I have to agree with Dipsy Moyer is done he is no Randy Johnson or Nolan Ryan pitching at this age! My 5 year old son even says Moyer looks older then his grandad!

  193. rivlez Says:

    The Little Guy, remember what I said before? Get ready for a ton of that right now!

  194. The Little Guy Says:

    Alright, lets go Orioles..

  195. tk Says:

    the 8th inning always seems to be a disaster every game lately…bases loaded and 0 outs – phils aint winning

  196. Jeff Says:

    Our bullpen goes BOOOOMMMM…..This team is not going anywhere this year.

  197. Griffin Says:

    We can all hold hands and pretend that everything is great since we won the World Series last year!

  198. The Dipsy Says:

    Fair enough. What should one say if they think that Jamie Moyer is not performing well or Jimmy Rollins has not hit all season, or blah blah? We’re Philadelphians. We boo. We rag. Its in our DNA. But I agree with you for the most part. I can’t critcize Moyer. He’s trying. I can criticize the management for keeping him in the rotation. I’m very unhappy with Moyer, Rollins, and Howard’s incessant wild swinging. I mean….you oughta be able to bitch sometimes if you want to…..ought’n you? Personally, I think your rag comment to constructive comment ratio should be about 1:6. I think that’s about right. I’m tellin ya, math explains everything.

    The Dipsy

  199. j reed Says:

    after watching these Jays, I can say their amazing start was no mere fluke…they’ll be in it with the Yanks and Sox, so no more delusions about Hallady in red pinstripes…not gonna happen

  200. Geoff Says:

    The seasons not over…come on man thats stupid!

    Meanwhile, they need to release Jamie Moyer.

  201. Chuck P Says:

    Where is the team that always played hard at home in 2008? Where are those guys that felt like it was their job to not let us down?

    This team has a major focus problem at home this year…

  202. The Little Guy Says:

    Haha rivlez, good call.

    I know their struggling, im not going to dwell on it, at all.

    They need pitching, every team needs pitching except the 6 man rotation Red Sox.

    So saying the Phillies need pitching isn’t some kind of new trend here.

    The thing that gets me is their is no one that would be a perfect with here that is attainable.

    Nice throw Mayberry.

  203. Geoff Says:

    NICE THROW!

  204. Miles Says:

    Even though he hasn’t given up all the runs, a lot of the fall for this one rest’s on Blanton’s shoulders. He has given us longer innings recently but in a game where we needed him to pitch deep into the game he does not and it results in the whole bullpen rotation starting at least one inning early. It smelled of bad news.

    On a bright note, Mayberry makes up for his earlier mental mistake. Nice toss.

  205. Dennis of VA Says:

    Mayberry is going to be the truth! I really like this kid

  206. rivlez Says:

    If there is anyone who should be upset right now it’s me. The Mets are a mess at this time. They are playing with half AAA team. Bullpen has been the strongest for them so far this season. The injuries just keep on piling on. Oh well.

  207. Terri Says:

    The Jays were swept by FLORIDA, but yet the Phillies can’t even win one game against them.

  208. Chuck P Says:

    Big John Stud…

    Terri, the Blue Jays are 5 games above .500 in the AL East… have a clue before you post something like that. They’re a very good baseball team.

  209. rivlez Says:

    Terri, all teams match up differently. Didn’t the Phillies get swept against Kansas City last year?

  210. tk Says:

    phillies did have many chances to score a lot more runs though…especially in the 1st inning

  211. The Little Guy Says:

    rivelz, in 2007 the Royals took 2 of 3.

  212. Chuck P Says:

    Mayberry leads off the 8th… would be nice to see him get on base and show off that speed.

  213. Greg Says:

    Phil-bos always hit this rough patch. Not only will they NEVER release Moyer they won’t even bench him. Charlie went on record saying he never could. Moyer should do the class thing and void the last year of his contract and go chill in Souderton.

  214. Dennis of VA Says:

    So far Blue jays 22 runs to Phillies 9! Their not scoring and their pitching is just plain horrific

  215. Jack Says:

    Would you people stop crying and whining! We are on the verge of being swept by a worthy opponent we havent seen in quite awhile (not to mention we are slumping regardless of who we are playing). Its insane that most people say trade everyone and can the season after a rough stretch. What would some of you do in a relationship/job if things started to get bumpy? Divorce? Quit? I know what some will say too, “Im just passionate.” And when they turn it around and win say 7 out of 8, “I knew they would turn it around!” Grow up and learn how not to be such BANGWAGONS and balance your pride and loyalty! Lets PHUCKIN GO PHILS!! TURN IT AROUND NOW!

  216. Jeff Says:

    Your wrong Jacky poo. We are the world champs. You dont get swept in your ballpark by and average team with no pitching. We are not facing there best pitcher. You dont get swept by a bunch of nobodys. Like Rolen who looks like Mickey Mantle in this series. When its over he will become the bum he is.

  217. Steve-o Says:

    for the record, I’d like to say I never have said the season is over, or that we need to release anyone. all I’ve said is this GAME is over…

  218. Tracey Says:

    Explain to me why we are taking out Ruiz (.270) to put in Dobbs (.172)?

  219. Chuck P Says:

    Or a strikeout…

  220. Tracey Says:

    Oh, OK, I understand. :)

  221. tk Says:

    clay condrey needs serious rest…his last couple of outings werent too good..i know they didnt have many other options but condrey needs to sit out a couple games

  222. Terri Says:

    Greg Dobb HR!!!

  223. Dennis of VA Says:

    Damn Dobbs must have heard what was being said…

  224. Jack Says:

    Jeff…. Im not making excuses for losing to this team but I can just imagine where people like you were when they got swept by the Mets this time last year. “its over, were done, Screw Charlie!” Im just as mad as the next guy about these past 2 series but grow up and stop bad mouthing the whole team and saying its over and shit. Baby…

  225. The Little Guy Says:

    Tracey….thats why

  226. Chuck P Says:

    Dobbs to Terri: That’s why b*tch… oh and because Ruiz bats RH and Dobbs bats LH…

  227. rivlez Says:

    Jack that was well said

  228. Chuck P Says:

    Hehe… kidding, no panties in bunches, please.

  229. Terri Says:

    Jimmy has had a good game!!

  230. Tracey Says:

    OK… Shane, do me proud…

  231. The Little Guy Says:

    3 for 4 single, double 2 run homer, bb for Rollins.

    The Angels came in here last year and ABSOLUTELY MANHANDLED the Phillies, anddddd whats happened the rest of last year?

  232. Jeff Says:

    When you make the money these boys do you go out there and play as hard as you can. they are not doing that. jack

  233. Dennis of VA Says:

    The Angels finished with the best record in the MLB completely different

  234. The Little Guy Says:

    Jeff, so your saying the Phillies haven’t played hard and didn’t want to win any games in this series?

    Do me a favor..who do you get your pot from?

  235. The Little Guy Says:

    Dennis, swap the blue jays and the angels in their divisions. How much money you wanna bet they could put up a record simliar to the Angels???

    The Jays play against.. the Yankees, Sox, Rays, and Os. doesn’t get much tougher..

  236. Jeff Says:

    your mom little guy. last night.

  237. rivlez Says:

    Jeff you’re retarded. Not even like a funny retarded just plain old retarded. You act like this is the Yankees payroll.

  238. Tracey Says:

    THAT’S MY BOY!!!!! GO SHANE!!!

  239. Steve-o Says:

    Shane!

  240. Jeff Says:

    never use that word rivlez. you will burn for it….go back to taco bell

  241. Steve-o Says:

    see I told you this game wasn’t over hahahahaha

  242. Griffin Says:

    Shane!

  243. Terri Says:

    Come on Chase!

  244. Jack Says:

    Jeff…. If they would have come out and won this game 3-0 with no questions asked, would you still be questioning their “hard work”? Or would it be Happy Day? Just stop before you get all worked up and make bad decisions.

  245. tk Says:

    last thing we need is another extra innings game so lets go offense!!!

  246. rivlez Says:

    what does taco bell have to do with anything?

  247. Dennis of VA Says:

    Yea this year! The Blue Jays always start off hot and then fade! You cant say the Blue Jays have a better team then the Angels who choked against Boston again last year! They by far were a better team then this years Blue Jays

  248. Tracey Says:

    (sigh!)

  249. The Little Guy Says:

    Jeff, really? You said “your mom”.

    How old are you? 10? Dude shut your mouth.

  250. Terri Says:

    IA tk, BP needs a rest. There is still the 9th inning with Chase and Ryan.

  251. Justin Says:

    WHY WOULD YOU STEAL WITH THE HEART OF YOUR ORDER UP TO BAT???

  252. Chuck P Says:

    J-Roll to this site: Damn front runners… I told you I’d be back.

  253. Geoff Says:

    Nice Hit to tie the game, but Shane Victorino is one of the dumbest baseball players ive ever seen. you dont steal there.

  254. The Little Guy Says:

    2nd time this year Victorino did that.

    Remember 2 years ago in the opening series against the Braves he did that, but he was trying to steal 3rd?

  255. Terri Says:

    Well then!

  256. j reed Says:

    whoa

  257. Tracey Says:

    Yes, the radio put it best: “No way.”

  258. Geoff Says:

    AHAHAHAHAH

  259. Steve-o Says:

    ohhhh yeah i forgot. our bullpen…

  260. Terri Says:

    Our BP is killing us.

  261. Griffin Says:

    Fitting way to finish off the sweep. Rod freaking Barajas.

  262. Justin Says:

    I cannot stand barajas. He couldn’t do this when he was in Philly?

  263. tk Says:

    one bad pitch by madson…ugh

  264. Chuck P Says:

    Rod F*ing Barajas…

  265. Griffin Says:

    Barajas couldn’t do anything when he was in Philly. Now he’s 8 for 16 the last two years against the Phils.

  266. Harold Says:

    I almost miss lidge.,…almost.

  267. chrisb Says:

    Good job Madson….Yes, you are the closer that we have been waiting for..NOT
    Stay in your 8th inning hole, YOU BUM

  268. tk Says:

    with the exception of the HR, that was an easy inning for madson…why did he have to throw that pitch?!?

  269. Terri Says:

    we still have Utley, Howard, Werth.

  270. The Little Guy Says:

    Phils will tie it this inning.

  271. Tracey Says:

    OK, boys: here’s your chance to be a hero.

  272. Jack Says:

    Phils will win this inning! Come on now, you three can totally redeem yourselves!!

  273. j reed Says:

    justin – and with 2 outs…could understand if there was 1 out to avoid the dp…hard not to like Shane but sometimes his baseball IQ is….well, raises a eyebrow or two

  274. mg52 Says:

    He may be the most irritating of all Phillie killers. He certainly did not do this as a Phillie and does not do it as a Jay – except against the Phils. It is as if he settles for mediocrity to save himself for confrontations with his former team and thereby to tantalize them.
    Of course, it would be silly to assert that this is really true, but it does at least seem that way. Madson should have thrown off-speed to Barajas; that change-up would have had him shaking his head all the way back to the dugout. The bullpen really is showing its wear and tear; at least Madson limited the damage to a single run.
    Now that they are behind by just one, they need to remind themselves not to try slugging their way back into the game. The previous inning saw good production: an opposite field (see what going the other way can do?) double by Rollins and a nice single up the middle by Victorino. That’s what they need – no clueless swinging at junk or letting cookies pass by.

  275. Chuck P Says:

    I hate this guy… effectively wild. Gotta be patient but you don’t know when it’s gonna go over for a strike… he’s got some fire.

  276. tk Says:

    it was a bad choice by madson to throw that pitch on a 0-2 count but what can you do now…

  277. The Little Guy Says:

    mg52..the most irritating Phillie killer is Jeff Conine.

  278. Justin Says:

    We’re in this position because Shane decided to run instead of allow Chase Utley the chance to bring him around.

  279. tk Says:

    ryan swings at ball 3 and 4!! good job

  280. j reed Says:

    griffin – wes helms, barajas, rolen..i hope this isn’t a pattern of ex- Phillies punishing us.

  281. Griffin Says:

    I don’t have a problem with Vic trying to steal. A single from Chase wouldn’t have scored him from 1st, so he was trying to get into scoring position.

  282. Griffin Says:

    yeah, I forgot about Helms.

  283. The Little Guy Says:

    Griffs right, if he didn’t steal it would of taken 2 hits to score, rather than 1 if he was safe.

    If he steals, its a great play, Vics the smartest man alive.

    If he’s out, Victorino is an idiot, stupid player, etc.

    Agressive baserunning, i dig it.

  284. tk Says:

    i understand vic in wanting to get in scoring position..not the smartest move though

  285. Terri Says:

    Swinging at the first pitch

  286. Geoff Says:

    First pitch swinging…out…boo.

  287. Griffin Says:

    Jayson Werth never swings at the first pitch….until now. Good AB.

  288. The Little Guy Says:

    Their it is, Wheels said it, “no doubles defense.”

  289. Justin Says:

    Smart baseball there J Werth,

  290. ShameLooserino Says:

    you guys are hilarious when this team is losing

  291. Chuck P Says:

    C’mon Feliz!!!! He is due…

  292. Trout Boy Says:

    Geoff…agreed. Total stupidity. You have 3-4-5 coming up and you get thrown out to end the inning? Again? Really? What a dope.

  293. Tracey Says:

    FELIZ!!!!

    OK Mayberry: Welcome to the big leagues. Show this Philly crowd what you’ve got…

  294. Geoff Says:

    Comeon Big John…you can come through.

  295. Justin Says:

    WOOHOO PETE HAPPY. JMJ BRINGS DOWN THE HOUSE!

  296. Tracey Says:

    oof… That’s a painful end to a painful series.

  297. Terri Says:

    Well, we were swept!

  298. chrisb Says:

    SWEEP BABY..MY BLUE JAYS SWEPT YOUR SORRY TEAM. WATCH OUT RYAN IS UP. OH HE STRIKES OUT ALWAYS. MOYER SCARES ME MOMMMY

  299. j reed Says:

    ugh

  300. Geoff Says:

    Damn iT. That was feeble and weak. Crap.

  301. GWFightinsFan Says:

    Why anyone throws Howard anything other than low and away sliders is beyond me…..but, hope springs eternal, come through Mayberry!

  302. Griffin Says:

    What a crappy, crappy series. Swept by the mediocre Jays without Halladay.

    Let’s go Orioles.

  303. Chuck P Says:

    Are you guys still talking about Vic trying to steal with 2 outs? Gimme a break!

    C’mon Big John Stud…

  304. ShameLooserino Says:

    I dont know why yu guys give up to early on your team whne they won the WS just last year.

  305. The Little Guy Says:

    Tough, better bounce back for the Os.

    I’m pulling for the Orioesss tonight against the Metrapolitans.

  306. Chuck P Says:

    F.

  307. Terri Says:

    I know we can’t win them all, but what a frustrating series for the Phils! I hope they play better against Baltimore

  308. JeffS Says:

    And if I’m in the mood for more torture, I can actually watch the game being replayed on CSN @ 7:00 which is exactly when I get home for work. With my gameday beer.

  309. Blue Jays Fan Says:

    Phillies are a mediocore team this year, better luck when Halladay comes to play in the next series.

  310. Paul Says:

    Can the Phils please go on the road now? Oh, and interleague can end anytime too…

  311. mg52 Says:

    Little Guy, you’re right: Conine was up there. So were/are Vladimir Guerrero, Mike Lowell, Tim Redding, David Wright, Carlos Delgado, many others. But at least none of those guys had been on the Phils as so-so players and then came back to trouble them.
    I don’t like the swing that Mayberry took there. I appreciate the effort he has put in and think that he has potential, but they called up a power bat when they probably should be aiming for a contact hitter. There are many lessons to learn from this subpar series, and while we have seen them emerge from many slumps and likely will see them emerge from this, it might be time to shake some things up. So far, it seems that all parts of their game are struggling.

  312. ShameLooserino Says:

    well said Blue jays fan

  313. Georgie Says:

    TMac’s upbeat attitude is getting on my nerves.

  314. JeffS Says:

    Savery should pitch in Reading this weekend? I know he pitched Monday this week.

  315. j reed Says:

    Little guy – although, throwing out shane is another Barajas moment arghhh!

  316. Matt Says:

    Phillies pitching is very good.

  317. mg52 Says:

    And yes, Helms is indeed in Barajas’s class.

  318. ShameLooserino Says:

    i’m sorry I couldn’t catch that homerun guys I’m a LOSER

  319. phillies game today | Latest Information Says:

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  320. Dave Says:

    I’d like to point out that Madson wasn’t pitching in a save situation. So, this is more of a “you suck, Madson” situation than “you suck as a closer, Madson” situation.

  321. MOAB Says:

    it wasn’t madson’s fault. it was coste’s bad call. watch the replay; he hit the target.

  322. Shitarino Says:

    GET THE BROOMS OUT…HAHA

    you guys have trouble winning at home

  323. phanman Says:

    oh man

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