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Gameday: Orioles (31-37) At Phillies (36-30)
Posted by Amanda Orr, Sun, June 21, 2009 12:37 PM
Tim is on vacation this weekend, so Amanda’s doing the gameday post and Brian is making the beer selection.
Baltimore Orioles (31-37) at Philadelphia Phillies (36-30)
Jeremy Guthrie (4-7, 5.42 ERA) vs. Cole Hamels (4-2, 4.48 ERA)
Time: 1:35 p.m at Citizens Bank Park
Weather: Cloudy, 71
TV:MyPHL 17
Twitter: Phillies Nation
The Phillies look to get back on track and avoid the sweep. They have the right guy on the mound to do that. Many times this season, Cole Hamels has had high pitch counts. He’ll have to work ahead in the count, and keep the pitch count down to work late into the game.
Jermey Guthrie is coming off a tough outing against the New York Mets. He allowed five runs (3 earned) in 6.1 innings, including a three run first inning.
Shane Victorino is batting .429 with a home run in seven at bats against Guthrie. Brian Roberts, the hero for the Orioles last night, is 2-2 with a home run off Cole Hamels.
The Phillies are once again without Ryan Howard, who still has a high fever. Greg Dobbs will get the start.
Your Gameday Beer: This afternoon we need something strong, so we’re going with Innis & Gunn from Scotland. This beer is aged in oak barrels previously used to mature bourbon – a novel concept. Think vanilla, toffee and orange aromas, with a malty, lightly oaked palate; soothing and warm in the finish. Have some pepperjack cheese fries with bacon with dad today.
Happy Father’s Day and Go Phillies!
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June 21st, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Ok guys, we got a game with the Orioles today. And that only means one thing. Bad news for the Orioles!
June 21st, 2009 at 1:22 pm
That being said, with what has transpired this week, I think we can all agree, today’s drink is whisky straight up.
June 21st, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Baltimore fans, get the brooms out cuz there is going to be a sweep in philly, great game last night!!
June 21st, 2009 at 1:37 pm
8-3 Phils today, watch.
June 21st, 2009 at 1:39 pm
good call on the whisky
June 21st, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Little Guy, if you get that right again it’s going to creep me out a little.
June 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Haha seriously. If i do, im going to Atlantic City.
June 21st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
After 1 inning, that was an abnormal amount of Curve Balls thrown by Colbert.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Where did Hamels get this velocity
June 21st, 2009 at 2:05 pm
His mother.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:07 pm
little guy – i like seeing the curveball, i think he needs that third pitch, however i don’t like seeing our staff learning new pitches in the game…this is what spring training is for or if in your in the minors that’s when the work should be done….I was listening on the radio and didn’t see him pitch. How did the curve look?
June 21st, 2009 at 2:10 pm
seems like everyone is trying to hit homeruns
June 21st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
and his father
joshua- last few times out, Hamels was pitching in colder temps. – air denser, more drag, decelerates ball
June 21st, 2009 at 2:13 pm
joshua – this is the Phillies -we live and die by the long ball
June 21st, 2009 at 2:23 pm
good boy chase
June 21st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Morris, are you taking to my drinking games?
Can Jim Moyer replace Wheels? His commentary was better.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Cole seems to be using his breaking ball a lot more. Should be a good compliment to his fastball and changeup.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Have no fear, your beer is here.
Happy Father’s Day, dads!
June 21st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
OK, guys, I know we’re winning, but we need more of a cushion the way the relief has been playing lately…
June 21st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Agreed, Tracey. Anyone else notice the empty comment section after last night?
June 21st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I think 2 shots of whiskey is more like it
June 21st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Oh, that’s awful.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Re comments last night: what I needed last night was some of that whiskey. I had a bit of whiskey-tango-foxtrot last night.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Dobbs almost had a close-encounter with the camera there.
June 21st, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Hamels is really having a good day. And he’s only at 77 pitches. Think we could get a CG out of him?
June 21st, 2009 at 2:59 pm
(sigh) I spoke too soon.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:03 pm
We might go into extras with our JV lineup out there.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:03 pm
OK, we haven’t given up the lead yet, it’s time to get serious about hitting!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Hey Shane! Thanks for taking my advice!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Its time for Charlie to get Rollins out of the lead off spot.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pm
(sigh!) Better luck next inning…
June 21st, 2009 at 3:09 pm
do we ever think about stealing. shane has speed. i fear when baby ahole from the mets gets on. why cant we make things happen. watching stairs hit is like watching the guy at wawa make me my sub.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
We used to get a lot more stealing action. Rollins and Abreu used to get about 30 steals a year each.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
mets are losing again. they suck. got we could be up by ten games. they are horrible.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
YES!!! NICE PLAY!!! That’s what you get for being greedy!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm
@Jeff: The only reason I pay attention to the Mets games is because I want to know if their loser fans are going to be here harassing us. Not much chance of that when they’re getting whipped.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Mets are losing again where are the Philly haters today
June 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Wow. I didn’t think there was any way of getting that DP the way Utley fumbled it.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Sadly, they are losing to a team with a winning record, and if we dont start hitting alot, we may get swept by a team with a losing record. Why is it whenever Cole Hamels pitches, the Offense looks horrible. The last week of baseball has been very depressing.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Brian
Our offense has looked like crap for over a week
June 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Yes, that blonde fan at last night’s game in the World Series hoodie summed it all up
June 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I know, but I was trying to not get overly pissed off with how bad this team has looked lately. Thanks for the reminder Jeff of NoVa. LOL
June 21st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
When the best hit of the week is a guy who took a few hours away from the hospital to PH, you know you’ve got an offense problem.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
June 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Dobbs who was hitting close to .180 a few weeks ago, not had a better batting average the Rollins.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Now has a better average then rollins it should have said.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Ugh that commercial just depressed me even more. Come to think of it, I think I started seeing it when the Phillies started this awful homestand. So that’s a double whammy.
Three hits in seven innings against Jeremy Guthrie? Amazing.
With our JV offense out there, this will go to extras. With our bullpen and how they’ve been pitching, that’s if we’re lucky.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
You think we could roll Howard’s hospital bed out to the park for another big hit?
June 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Nevemind, it dropped again from .219 to .215 after his last at bat.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
And after I said that, a leadoff double. Jee-ZUS!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Hamels is over 100 now.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Mets 5-4 on Rays in 6th
June 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Sorry to depress you even more Mike D, but seeing how this team witha lising record has 8 hits against our ACE, this wont be going to extra innings. We might be tied in the 9th, Manuel will put Madson in and they will end up beating us byt 3 in the 9th.
Damn its not even 5 and I need a drink already.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
(sigh) and they take the lead.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
crap
June 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Or they could just win it right now. F****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
we cant even win a game at him, much less a series. We are going to get swept again.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
This freaking team better score some flipping runs in the bottom half of the inning
June 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm
No. We will NOT get SWEPT BY THE ORIOLES! I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT WILL HAPPEN AND I REFUSE TO BELIEVE OUR BOYS WILL EVER LET THAT HAPPEN!
NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm
well looks like only 1 game up now. Thanks Madson for giving up 2 freaking homers and a single in the 9th yesterday.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:33 pm
WHEW! OK, not too much damage, but we really need to get hitting.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Lets call up Howard and get his butt out here to help us LOL
June 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
6-5 Rays
June 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I will gladly buy everyone on here a beer next time Im in Philly if somehow this supposed first place defending WS champs decide to beat this last place losing record team.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Thank you for the slight “ray” of hope Jeff of NoVa. Ok bad joke, but at least the mets are also losing.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Wonder if Victorino can get another hit with 2 outs?
June 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
bad call unless he is out of the basepath
June 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Go Charlie! At least someone cares!
June 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Its about time the old man sroked out.
Now win some games.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
it should be tied now
June 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Second time in a week that this team could potentially lose two games because of blow calls. WTF? It’s one thing to play poorly and lose, that I can stomach. But having a chance to win taken from you…garbage.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
I hate the umps they have been just as bad as the Phils have been in this homestand
June 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
wow that blown call…that ump needs to be suspended for a few games like NFL offcials are when they blow calls
June 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
well not looking good
June 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
that was a grown man move by jimmy and he got robbed
June 21st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
still shaking my head on that blown call
June 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
The problem is baseball umps are not held accountable like NFL refs. Mostly because they ump 162 games so the MLB sees it as, mistakes will be made with that amount of games and calls being made but with the NFL, each bad call can have a drastic effect on a teams record. But I agree, something should be done about this crap. Especially the home run call that was not reviewed when replay is in the stadium. This one though, I just don’t understand how you can blow that call…he was 5 feet away and had a perfect view, the play was coming towards him and not away from him. No one was in his way, nothing and he still blew it.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
yeah well when you are playing this poorly you are not going to get calls like that go your way
June 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
oh I forgot Budd Selig is comissioner…he’s to busy whining about how NFL gets a few pass while MLB doesn’t…well maybe if he grew a pair like actually reprimanding umpires for a start
June 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
oof…
June 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Well at least the Mets are getting beat
June 21st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
bases loaded 2 outs Burrell is pinch hitting
June 21st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
and they have a rain delay LOL
June 21st, 2009 at 3:58 pm
argh. Stairs got robbed.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I bet if they had a keg at the end of the first base line Stairs would have beaten that out
June 21st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
my god Werthless
June 21st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
OK Mayberry: Your chance to be a hero
June 21st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
so impatient swinging at ball 4
June 21st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Ugh. What an awful loss.
June 21st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
nope so sad
June 21st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Ed R. – yeah with 162 games things play out in the wash, but I think that playing everyday and the subsquent short memory allows mounting problems to go unaddressed. Ultimately it is what keeps the game from evolving …. (not that I think they play to many games), but …oh crap! Time to tear up the clubhouse
June 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
One of the strongest hitting teams in baseball, and they get only one solo homer in 9 innings against the Orioles??? Awful…
June 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
well thank you to Cole for lasting a good 8 for us! our ‘pen is all too grateful for the rest, I’m sure. too bad our O couldn’t do their jobs today……. I live in the DC area and I’m embarassed that I have to face fans of “Birdland” tomorrow. ugh…..LET’S GET IT TOGETHER PHILLIES!! YOU ARE WFC!!!!
June 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I’m done trying to search for words with these game. Every game has made me more angry and more upset. What in the hell is going on here?
June 21st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
This team is a disgrace. The fans have been too kind. 10 blown saves and a leadoff hitter who should be playing in the special olympics.
June 21st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
one word….PATHETIC
June 21st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
protest the game and make sure the ump is suspended…After the crap Selig pulled during the WS its the least he could do. Supposedly there’s a command center where every game is viewed…yeah by chimps cause nothing ever is done.
June 21st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
(I really hate that commercial… stealing pennies from children to buy a burrito?)
June 21st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
well i give up on this season like this team has. they are going nowhere. utley looks pathetic. werth swings at pitches inside on a 3-1 count. how can you not score more then 1 run against a pathetic pitching staff.
June 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
The umpires are not to blame…WE SUCK!
June 21st, 2009 at 4:09 pm
We just made Guthrie look like Greg Maddux
June 21st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
They just don’t seem to take these Interleague games seriously. They had the same problem last year. That’s why I thought they were in trouble for the WS.
June 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
yeah, i thought this team wide batting slump might have been an anomaly last year but, to see it again, well it’s a pattern and not a matter of things not going our way…”that’s baseball” attitude is simply not an adequate way to describe the cumulative effects of poor, undiscilplined play….and enough of this pop psychology by media commentators
June 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Alright yes the Mets are losing. But even if we lose we still are only 2 games back of you guys. Wow, the Phillies are pathetic!!! You guys go 1-8 on your 9 game homestead. You lost two out of three to the Red Sox and then you get swept by the BLUE JAYS AND ORIOLES!!!!!!!!! wow, even the nationals are doing better than you. They atleast won once against the O’s and won two against the Jays. now you guys go on a road trip to TB, Toronto and Atlanta. Expect your road record to melt down as well. Wow bad luck for you. The Dobbs foul in opener vs boston. then the 5 runs bastardo allows in first inning before rain delay and then 11-6 loss. Then you came back vs the sox to win. Then blue jays game. Your closer madson blows a 3-2 lead by walking in tying run and then you allow 5 runs in extras. Then get mowed down by Scott Richmond. and then wow ROD BARAGAS HOMERS OFF MADSON IN NINTH to win. Then O’s kill you 7-2. then yesterday. 5-3 lead to ninth after classic howard homer. but zaun homers and roberts on final strike homers. Then today hamels pitches great but you guys O stinks it up. Phillies now 36-31. 23-9 on road and 13-22 at home. 2-8 in past 10. 6 game losing streak. 1-8 on the 9 game homestead. Not to mention your so closer madson is now 2-3 with a 3.06 era and only 4 saves with 3 blown saves. PATHETIC THE PHILLIES ARE. NOW the braves and marlins and we the amazin mets have caught up. myers, lidge, eyre, ibanez on dl with howard sick. good luck in WS rematch in tb. Get swept by O’s and now for Rays turn. PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
June 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pm
you keep saying how pathetic the phils are, what does that mean for your mets who actually have to win to take over first, and have only made up 2 games in the east while the phillies have gone 1-8
June 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
dude don’t you Mets fans have anything better to do than rant on a Phillies blog? Which one of you morons lost your helmet?
June 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
baseball is filled with crap psychology which sabrmetrics has done well to weed out…unfortuanately our line-up buys into superstition like “hitting is contagious”. Sometime but always, you have to play with your and not rely on your talent
June 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
baseball is filled with crap psychology which sabrmetrics has done well to weed out…unfortuanately our line-up buys into superstition like “hitting is contagious”. Sometime but always, you have to play with your head and not rely on your talent to take you through the rough patches
June 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pm
THIS TEAM WILL NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! The team that was never out of it earlier in the year, no matter how far behind they were HAS LOST IT’S SWAGGER. Cole did his best, but it now takes a shutout for this team to win. WFC now changed to BFD.
June 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Who cares. atleast we’ve made up some games. you guys got swept by the orioles. Let me tell you this! The 2009 Phillies are the 2008 Mets. Early division lead, lots of blown saves, bullpen sucks, certain players suck, leadoff sucks, injuries. In the end we missed the playoffs. That’ll be you guys while the 2009 celebrate the 2009 WS
June 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
That’ll be you guys while the 2009 mets celebrate the 2009 WS
June 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
ahhahaha you think the mets are going to win it this year, please you should get on a mets blog and worry about your own team since they cant win, you would like to think the phillies will choke like the mets are so good at but they still have to do it and in the meantime the phils are still the world champs until dethroned
June 21st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
10 Blown saves? Bleh, talk when they blow 27.
June 21st, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Odds Phils make the playoffs: 35% right now
Odds Phils are a .500 ballclub: 80% right now
They are just a bad team this year. Finding ways to lose. No bench. No bullpen. Hope this homestand brought some of the wild-eyed optimist back to this planet. Heard one of the tools on WIP say a couple of weeks ago, how the Phils would win the division by 10-12 games. I’ve read some similar comments by posters on here. I hope this trainwreck (how the eff do you go 1-8 on a 9 game HOMESTAND???) has knocked some of the cockiness out of the fans. Now, if only it would have the same effect on the team! Pathetic state of affairs.
New game I saw online this morning called “Where’s Rueben”? It’s about a little squirrely guy who has disappeared and is not doing anything to help his club. No one can find him.
And one more thing while I’m at it: it is virtually impossible to watch a game on TV with Wheels and TMac. Their cheery outlook on things just reeks of “company shill”, which they both are. God, I was screaming for them to STFU about 10 different times today. They are both brutal. God, do I miss HK.
June 21st, 2009 at 6:55 pm
These hitting slumps are just not okay. They have gone through it in the past, yes, especially against the American League. That does not mean that they will be clutch again for the rest of the year. I certainly hope for it, but we cannot know that this year will be like the last two. It is one thing to have a spell of offensive inconsistency. It is another to be swept at home by one decent team and one weak one – with two losses against a strong opponent thrown in. Manuel does not have to rip apart furniture or shove players into lockers, but he does have to have a civil but firm discussion with the players about how frazzled pitching and moribund offense don’t always fix themselves, but instead need hands-on repair.
A contending team will have its bad times, but will almost never be swept by a last-place team at home. That is just hard to imagine. The fundamentals are so important: singles, doubles, sac bunts, hit-and-runs, stolen bases…in short, smart, basic play. If a pitcher is in good shape, then he should probably remain on the mound; pitch counts don’t even have to dictate decisions all the time. If the current complement cannot adjust to this style of play, then it might be time to import players – from other clubs or from the farm – who can.
June 21st, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Despite all this, I love the Phillies and always will.
June 21st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
A few points I’d like to put out there:
1) In the post season last year the Phils did something that hadn’t all last season. Take pitches and work pitchers. Teams like the Red Sox understand that the sooner you get into into the other teams bullpen, which will probably be full of shitty pitchers, the better off you’ll be. Please Phillies….start to do this.
2) Kyle Drabek is killing it in Reading. In 1982 or 83, the Mets brought up a promising pitcher from single A. His name was Dwight Gooden. Drabek is no Gooden but if his stuff is that wicked then think about bringing him up. Why not? Cuz you’ll ruin him? It’ll hurt his feeling he’ll get hit around sometimes? He’s not a race horse. Then, move Bastardo to the pen and you’ve got a serious upgrade there.
Just blueskying it a little here.
The Dipsy
June 21st, 2009 at 7:33 pm
My dream pitching staff for Aug 1 2009
SP – Hamels
SP- Lee (or a reasonable facsimile)
SP- Blanton
SP- Happ
SP- Drabek
RP- Condrey
RP- Durbin
RP- Park
RP- Bastardo
RP- Madson
RP- Romero
RP- Lidge
Taschner will have been given his unconditional release. Moyer will be traded to a contender who thinks he can turn it on for them down the stretch. The Phils will get a midlevel prospect. Someone like our Joe Savery or Jason Donald.
The Dipsy
June 21st, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Whoops. Forgot Scott Eyre. Which isn’t hard to do by the way.
The Dispy
June 21st, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Get your brooms out O’s fans for the sweep of the phillies, we swept philly and give them ur brooms so they can clean up filthadelpia. Nice stadium, went there sat. If the o’s were in the NL east, we’d be in first place right now after winning all the series vs. ur division.
June 21st, 2009 at 10:40 pm
I am so with Dipsy, except Drabek (maybe not until next year) will be ahead of Happ (who I love and is a great person).