Gameday: Phillies (37-32) At Rays (38-35)
Posted by Amanda Orr, Thu, June 25, 2009 06:00 PM
Philadelphia Phillies (37-32) at Tampa Bay Rays (38-35)
Antonio Bastardo (2-2, 5.21 ERA) vs. Andy Sonnanstine (5-7, 6.60 ERA)
Time: 7:08 p.m at Tropicana Field
Weather: Dome
TV: Comcast Sportsnet, MLB Network
Twitter: Phillies Nation
The Phillies will send Antonio Bastardo on the mound for the rubber-match against the Rays. Like the World Series, the Phillies took game one, and the Rays took game two. The only difference is that the series is still in Tampa, which may not be a bad thing with most of the Phillies success coming away from Citizens Bank Park.
In his outing against the Baltimore Orioles, Bastardo was roughed up in the second inning, but he settled down. He was effective throwing 73 of 108 pitches for strikes. The rookie pitched a career high seven innings in his effort against the Orioles.
In the World Series, Sonnanstine earned the loss in game four. In four innings, he allowed five runs, three earned, on six hits and three walks. Ryan Howard homered off him.
Sonnanstine’s numbers may not be impressive, but he has pitched better in his last two starts. He was effective against the Mets in last start, however a three run home run hurt him. It also notable that he is 12-9 with a 5.01 ERA at Tropicana Field.
Charlie Manuel has benched Jimmy Rollins for tonight’s and Friday’s game. Manuel says Rollins will return to the leadoff spot when he returns, however he’ll ride the pine for the next two days.
Tonights Lineup: Victorino (CF)/ Dobbs (1B)/ Utley (2B)/ Howard (DH)/ Werth (RF)/ Stairs (LF)/ Feliz (3B)/ Bruntlett (SS)/ Ruiz (C).

Your Gameday Beer:The Phils are still in Florida so we’ll go with another local beer. Landshark is brewed by Anheuser Busch and the new king of Florida, Jimmy Buffet. It seems to be a direct competitor to Corona – the beers look similar in appearance and are really only palatable when they’re ice cold and you’re burning in the sun. So if you’re lucky enough to be in that climate, have some spicy Thai food tonight. -By Brian
Go Phillies!
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June 25th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
It really pains me that Bruntlett has to step in to take the place of a slumping Rollins and his batting average is almost 60 points lower than Rollins. Unbelievable. I guess the only other option is Donald and he’s on the DL. It’s just frustrating.
June 25th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
why isn’t mayberry playing tonight??
June 25th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
This team has no direction. First off I agree with benching Rollins. Bruntlett is just bad. Bring one of the kids up. Now you have Bruntlett, Feliz, Ruiz.. all outs at the bottom. Stairs is pathetic starting. Get Mayberry in there. This kid can hit. I hope Charlie loses his job..
June 25th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
cm I don’t think they like Mayberry playing against righties. I can’t really blame them considering that he hasn’t had the best swings off of them so far, but obviously they are going to have to let him get a few swings off of them. Sonnanstine isn’t that tough of a righty, though. Either way I like having him off the bench to pinch run or come in for defense.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
I know it is not related to baseball, but still Michael Jackson dies at 50 in LA Hospital
June 25th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Thank you, Charlie Manuel. Benching J-out was the best choice.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Mets won 3-2 today, so they are currently 1 game back of Phillies.
Yes howard!! 2-0 Phillies on Howards double
June 25th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
@ “I care to(o) much”….i assume you are gonna take over as manager? We don’t have anyone to bring up to play short with Donald hurt and Mayberry has crushed lefties but that’s it. He doesn’t exactly have a lot to work with right now.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
woah stairs!!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Nice Stairs! It’s a good thing that Charlie didn’t lose his job “I care to much”. I guess he just got lucky since Stairs is “pathetic as a starter”.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Stairs double!!! 3-0 Phillies
June 25th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
All right Feliz!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Feliz delivers!!!! 4-0 Phillies.
I guess Feliz isn’t an automatic out hey “I Care Too Much”
June 25th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
4 run lead for Bastardo heading to bottom of first
June 25th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
This is good. This is good.
Go Bastardo!!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
miles baby,,stairs is pathetic as a starter. luckkkky..i guess its good he benched rollins for bruntlett too. charlie couldnt manage turkey at a farm. last year. great hitting, pitching and daffey..
June 25th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
By everyone’s Moyer logic from the other night Bastardo should be unhittable since he can attack the strike zone with the early runs on the board. Oh wait, he just walked Upton.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Whatever you say “Care to much”….you are just making yourself sound like an idiot by trashing the defending WFC manager….for no apparent reason. And as you can see earlier, I also echoed the frustration of only having Bruntlett as an option to fill in, but we really do have no other options unless you want to bring Cairo back up. And I don’t think everyone is real pumped about that.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Nice job by Bruntlett!! See… he’s good defensively too!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Burrell batting 3rd today after solid game yesterday
June 25th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I thought we got away with one there but it looks like Beard either made the tag or at least got him when he came off the base.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Hahaha Smoltz getting rocked by the Nads in his first start for the BoSox…gotta love it
June 25th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Yup, Upton looked out on the replay.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
4-1 now. Burrell scores the run.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Ahh Antonio….JWerth has gotta make a better play on that though. Burrell scoring from first? Cmon.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Cmon Bastardo I wanna see that nasty changeup you’re supposed to have
June 25th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Good lord….
June 25th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
f-ing bastardo!!!!!!!! wtf??????????
June 25th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
good bastardo only 26 pitches so far..IN THE FIRST. GO BACK TO AAA
June 25th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
And this is why successful MLB pitchers need more than one friggin pitch.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Uh oh
June 25th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Gives the lead right back
June 25th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Really small strike zone by the ump
June 25th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
bastardo cannot get away with throwing fastball after fastball especially to this team!! but the only good thing is that usually he has only 1 bad inning and then most of the time gets under control after that, so hopefully this was his bad inning!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
He looks unbelievably uncomfortable out there…I have no idea what he’s doing.
By the way, I just wanted to point out to Geoff and others who were trying to discredit Moyer’s work the other night because he had a big lead to work with that you can still give runs back right away, as Bastardo is showing us.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
can they take him out. he is aweful. 4-4
June 25th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Since Bastardo has been called up, you can see he throws alot of pitches in one inning and he throws lots of balls. To be honest, in the future I think Bastardo will be a reliever. See Zobrist homers 4-0 Phillies lead is now 4-3. 2B Ben Zobrist having career year. 16HRS and 44RBI. Utley = 16HRS and 49RBI. Not comparing but just telling Zobrist having great year. We should honestly trade Bastardo in upcoming trade deadline. 4-3 Phillies after 1.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Bastardo does not belong in the starting rotation. That’s all.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Cmon Chooch that was a hanger.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Maybe its not just Rollins, maybe our lead off hitters are instructed to swing on the 2nd pitch?
June 25th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
who would take bistardo’s spot in rotation?
June 25th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Nick we can’t overreact to bad starts by saying we need to trade him. I think he would be great to hang onto. Just remember that he is not supposed to major league ready yet so really this isn’t that surprising. We just had a need and he was pitching the best at the time.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Vic not faring well YET in leadoff postion.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Antonio Bastardo is not a major league pitcher. He has a 30% groundball rate (the ML average is around 40%) and he does not have control over his secondary pitches.
Keeping him in the rotation at this point is just giving away games.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
1-2-3 Phillies go down. 2 called 3rd strikes.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
i really hope bastardo either starts throwing his other pitches or gets better location on his fastball because this team can hit pretty well
June 25th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Haha we have to get someone else in there fast, that was almost laughable there
June 25th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
the worst part is we have no one to bring up. No one.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Wow, first pitch homer. 4-0 lead has officialy evaporated
June 25th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
mayberry would have caught that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
CM it has nothing to do with location and everything to do with the fact that he has one pitch.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
this kid is aweful. needs more time. you are not winning with him in your rotation.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
you would think a 4 run lead would last a little longer
June 25th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
I guess Bastard doesn’t like playing with a nice lead. I think it’s becoming obvious that he isn’t ready for the big time yet.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
OK how many runs given up is enough? 7 ? 10?
Go get him already
We scored 4. so try to keep it close
June 25th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Let’s give Park another try… he has been great lately!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Go talk to the guy Chooch!
June 25th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
i hope park is available because we are def. going to need him soon… man bastardo couldn’t have at least waited a couple innings to give those runs back – gotta do it in the first
June 25th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
0 movement on the fastball, combined with a mediocre breaking pitch means happy hitters.
This kid is not cut out for the majors yet. he could be a solid reliever, or future starter, but is nowhere near a successful starting pitcher in the big leagues.
I like Oswalt, Lee, or Halladay, in no particular order.
June 25th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I didn’t even have time to enjoy our lead….I’m depressed.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
i think 2 innings is enough for bastardo – they need to get him out before the lead starts to get too much
June 25th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
great job charlie leaving him in. GAME OVER.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
The mess won again today too. the only team that every year thier big “name” players get hurt and the team surges. Beltran is a cancer if he hit .600 I would not want him on my team. The mets are with him hurt.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Rays take the lead. Get this Bastard out of the game. This sucks.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
I cant bear to see Bastardo start another game.
Ruben needs to make some moves now if he wants to both develop Bastardo in the minors, and still have potential to do damage in the latter half of the season.
6 runs in 2 innings is unacceptable.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
50 pitches so far in two innings. get drabek up. he cant do worst.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
FINALLY! OK, now we need some bat action…
June 25th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
So at this point you have to assume they can’t throw Bastardo out there again. That basically means that we spot start someone else (Carrasco, Chacin?) or make a trade before his next start. This is the worst that one of our guys has gotten shelled this year. Even when Park was bad in games it was mostly just walks and singles, not doubles and bombs like Bastardo is serving up.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
bastardo better not be in the 3rd. there’s no way he will hold the game at 6 runs if he goes back out there. i
June 25th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Bottom of 2nd Inning: Homer, Double, Single, Pop Out, Double, Ground Out, Strikeout
Phillies scored 4 in the first, 0 in the second
Rays scored 3 in the first, 3 in the second
After 2 innings, Rays lead 6-3. Bastardo no clean inning yet
June 25th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
It’s fine… you pretty much HAD to keep him at least to finish the 2nd inning… especially since he’s shown that he can have a really bad inning, and then settle down.
I wonder why he doesn’t throw his secondary stuff… I thought his changeup was good.
We’re only down by 2… and we can hit their pitcher too.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Jeff the game is not over. It’s the third inning. And Sonnanstine has been anything but effective this year. Bastardo is hopefully done for the day and whoever else is coming in will surely do a better job. We will hang around in this one. Again, its the third inning. Ahhhh nice rip big poppa, damn.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Ugh I thought that was a dinger by the big man
June 25th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Yeah, I thought that was out. We needed it to be out.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Bleh.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
he’s back! wow. this will be great
June 25th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Sonnanstine on his game now
Gonna go watch NBA draft. can’t watch Phillies for time being.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Nice K by Bastardo
June 25th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Nick…Sonnanstine does not have a “game” to be on. Howard ripped the crap out of that ball and he walked Werth on some brutal pitches. We could explode for four more at any time against this guy.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
… And this is why you leave Bastardo in the game!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
at least the phillies are showing they can hit off of sonnastine, so that’s encouraging…
June 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I like having Bruntlett starting this game and the next, even if he doesn’t do much at the plate… at least he’ll get some at-bats and perhaps that’ll lead to better pinch-hitting.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I think it’s time to part ways with Bruntlett, what is he bringing to the team?!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Chooch’s avg is dropping way too fast
June 25th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
i know its early in the game still, but im just hoping bastardo’s bad innings won’t cost us the game because in his last start it did
June 25th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Whew….thought that was 8-4
June 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
I’m almost surprised when he gets people out with the fastball.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Did anyone else just see that Elvis Burrell has a world series ring collar? I don’t know if I find that funny or upsetting….
June 25th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Damn it… ANOTHER injury?
June 25th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
WHO GOT HURT?????They need to revamp this staff. Hamels, Moyer, Blanton are fine. Get Happ and Bastardo out.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I hope it’s not an injury because that would make us look even more desperate for a starter AND he wouldn’t be as valuable in a trade if another team had wanted him. He very easily could have just wanted to get out of there though. His body language was just very poor tonight so he either had something bugging him or he just was not focused for tonight’s start.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Drabek was dealing thru 5 innings but got roughed up in the 6th. Bastardo will be fading into obscurity soon.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
What’s wrong with Happ, Jeff? He is certainly better than the best alternative….
June 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
@Miles: Yes, World Series collar tag for Elvis.
Well, maybe now we can put this ugliness behind us and score some runs…
June 25th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Shane works the count and hits a ball hard with nothing to show for it. That sort of shows how its goin for us huh?
June 25th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
This team effin strikes out too much! its sickening!
June 25th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Ok I’m officially frustrated now. There is no reason we shouldn’t be able to score at least 2-3 runs more against this guy.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
What’s the deal with those space man masks and the cowbell? A little over the top eh.
June 25th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
This ump is clueless btw.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
sorry I sucked guys
June 25th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
What an absolute JOKE of a stadium. People say crap about our stadium being too small….well at least its a legitimate field and MLB ballpark. You won’t see a bounce like that in CBP. It will probably cost us two or three runs….
June 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Cmon Durbin. Navarro is barely a viable MLB player.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Just fall behind by 10 so I can watch Geraldos special on Michael Jackson and not flip back to this torture.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
WAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
WHEW! But really, I could do with less of these exciting innings….
June 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Good Job Durbin!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Way to get out of it Durbs…..can we please respond. I’m begging.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Miles, that’s got to be the ugliest stadium I’ve ever seen, no wonder no one shows up.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
That at bat was so bad he looked like he was a Phillie LOL. Cmon Phils, let gets a few hits!!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Isn’t it about time for Werth’s solo shot of the day?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
At least the 2009 Phils don’t strand a ton of guys on base offensively.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Whew werth jus got lucky
June 25th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
YES!!! I’ll take some offense however I can get it!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
What a break. What a break. Have to do something here.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
They counted that as a hit? That’s generous. Looked like an easy double-play to me.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Oh good freaking grief.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
WTF WAS FELIZ DOING THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
oops Feliz
June 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Did that really just happen
June 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
haha double playyyyyyyyyyyyy
June 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
OK, am I the only one who is bothered by this awful commercial where a guy steals pennies from everyone, including little kids, to get a burrito?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
You’ve got to be kidding me
June 25th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
If Stairs was like Mark Teixera (and a robot) he would have run top speed there. Oooooooooooooooh Pedro, I will choose to remember your game winning RBI against the Rays in the WS.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Mets: Let us harass our own team. We’re much better at it; we have more experience.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Well that was Churchesque….
June 25th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
AHHAHAHAHHAA We take first. Goodbye Phillies. Hello Mets 2009 World Champs and Florida marlins Wildcard
June 25th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
@cxl: Yeah, that’s a Matt Stairs running error too.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
this team is so not displined. you dont know how many outs, and yes maybe stairs could hustle a little,.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Seriously?!
Did Pedro lose the ball in the dome?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Eli: You count about as well as Feliz does. Even if we lose, we’re still half a game ahead of you. And there are three more innings in this game.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I just vomited.
does it have to be something every game?
Updating Jermaine Jackson just did a press conference about MJ.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
HAHAHHAHAHHA THIS IS PRICELESS
June 25th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
@Corinne: Pedro apparently thought there were two outs, and didn’t think he had to tag up. Either it would be caught (third out) or it would be dropped (no need to tag).
June 25th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
I remember a very similar play with Pedro last season…
June 25th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Eli–just in case you forgot: it’s June, not September.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Carma, this is carma for stealing 2007 and 2008 from us
June 25th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
No wonder you think the Mets are going to win, Eli. You are so ignorant of baseball that you can’t tell the difference between a whole game and a half game.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Eli you little B1tch it is June! Priceless is your f@cking team blowing leads 2 years in a row and US yea US winning the WFC!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Hear, hear, DJ. Wait until Choketember.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Put a little C on utleys chest and let him get on these guys asses. Obviously the coaching staff isnt doing it.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
We can beat anyone right now. We beat the Cardinals and plan to beat the Yankees. This is so great. We have Santana and K-Roid. Our team is AAA level and beating everyone.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Its Karma you ignorant @sshole! Learn how to spell!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
wtf is the umpire? damn he must have something against the phillies.
i love how sonnastine got all those strike 3 called and both off durbin’s last pitches were strikes
June 25th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
and what’s carma? Last time I checked, it was karma. You spell like a 12 year old. Oh wait, you probably are one.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Leave Eli alone, he is defending our honor. We are trolling all the Phillies sites as you did with us when Castillo dropped the ball.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I’m pretty impressed with Stairs’ arm…
June 25th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Eli,
Your maturity level that you display leads me to believe that you are under the age of 21. That being said, maybe you should do something productive with your time, perhaps de-virginizing yourself. You seem to spend aimless days and hours waiting to scold the Phillies fans here who actually have something productive to say.
Congratulations,
You, like the Mets, are destined for failure.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Phan1 you are a big schmuck
June 25th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
“As you did”? Sir, I never once in my life trolled a Mets site. I barely pay any attention to the score in the Mets games, let alone who drops what. And the fact that there are a couple of @ssholes out there who claim to be Phillies fans doesn’t give you the right to be an @sshole to people who never did anything to you.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Let’s go Mets!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I see Eli is back.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
I don’t like this move….I would have let Durbin fight out of it.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Why do the Rays innings last so long and ours are so quick! Patience maybe
June 25th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
aaargh, at least the cow bell volume is down from last night.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Well its looking like 8 out of 9 and 10 out of 12! Somethings gotta give Seriously!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
@DJ: Yeah, we keep swinging for the rafters on the first pitch. Makes for short ABs.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Damn….
June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Man at least Vic made a good stop and great throw! Damn this is frustrating
June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
(sigh) Well, the Phils managed to get 6 runs from this team in one inning a couple of nights ago. They’ll just have to do it again.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
No one can blame Jimmy tonight. Not sure what the heck is going on now
June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
things im not proud of:
1) the 2009 phillies
2) my absolute hatred of the mets and their fans
3) my love of patrick swayze movies
June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
The mets arent even a threat. They arent even players at the trade deadline. The issue is we suck. Everyone be happy the NL least sucks. Because we will still be in first for awhile. The mental mistakes are highly pissing me off.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Can I get a score on your game?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
We are going to be in second place by the weekend, maybe that will wake this team up. They have been playing bad baseball for about 2 week now.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Good point, AJ. So who gets the Jeltz tonight? Pedro’s certainly a contender for that rally-ending base-running error.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Next time the ump squeezes a pitcher Ol Cholly needs to get tossed, a Lou Pinella toss! They need some fire
June 25th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
those 3 runs should have never happened because durbin threw TWO perfect pitches right down the middle of the plate to burrell which were called ball 3 and 4. wow, incosistent umps are seriously the story of the phillies.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Charlie had a “talk” with Jimmy? What was that about?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
@Tracey….Bastardo Bastardo Bastardo. This game was looking great until he threw a pitch.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Hahahahaha Andrew….how are the mets not a threat? They have three starters playing right now and are a 1/2 game behind you.
You guys are hysterical when you are losing! Priceless
June 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Can they just call the game! They look like they don’t even want to play! Their demeanor is just bad and I think this whole outage started and ends with the pitching! It’s horrible and needs to be addressed ASAP!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
If the game wouldn’t have been so close I guarantee Utley gets tossed back in the bottom of the 6th. He wanted to keep himself in the game to help the team but he wanted to absolutely bite the umps head off. Terrible home plate ump tonight but you make your own breaks, people. Stairs had a ball that he easily could have caught that helped pad the Rays lead and Feliz made a horrible horrible play on the basepaths. And Bastardo….well he threw a lot of fastballs.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
I’m feeling a bit front-runnerish about this one, not going to watch anymore.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
cxl72
I second all of that! Well, not a fan of movies, but #1 and #2 anyway
June 25th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
bastardo pretty much ruined the game from the 1st inning. i mean pedro made a huge mistake but if you have horrible pitching how do you expect to win a game?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
@Arino….I personally think its hysterical that you never show your face on here except for when the Mets win and the Phillies lose. We try to use our WS championship as a comeback but you don’t seem to accept that.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
@Miles: Yeah, Bastardo didn’t have a good night. I liked him in his first start, but he just hasn’t been able to sustain it.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Thanks A.J. We may be proud of the Phils again. They just cant beat AL teams consistently.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Miles…why do you think its hysterical? Phillies fans troll just as much as mets boards….and you would think they wouldntt have to now that you are champions.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
I’m outta here for the night….I’m gonna watch the rest of the game to embrace the pain of this moment but I have to do it on my own. The group negativity is not helping my emotional state.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Yeah you are correct, i do not accept that…One championship for all of your sport teams in 25 years does not impress me.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I’ve got an OK Go song running thorugh my head…
Here it goes, here it goes, here it goes again… aw, here it goes again…
and not in a good way.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Is anyone watching this on MLB network? Mitch Williams is talking crap Im still mad at him! And its time to cut Traschner!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Georgie… I’m about to do the same… but I gotta stay for the 8th inning with Utley, Howard and co due up
June 25th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Dan I totally agree with you. But you have to realize that most of the fans who do this just like to piss you off and care more about making Mets fans mad then they do about the Phillies winning. Don’t get me wrong, I love moments like when Castillo made that error, but I don’t have to go rub it in anyone’s faces to make it any better for myself. I am just against trolling of any kind unless you are going to show your face during the down times as well.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Shitarino- How can u claim Yankees championships if ur a Mets fan let me guess you bounce between yankees, mets, giants and Jets? Yea true New Yorker riding whoever you think is good!
June 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
The mets are losers. when they have 9 game leads with 12 to play they lose. When they need to win on the last day the last game at shea ever. With every player from the past there. They lose.
Tom glavine has the worst game of his career in the last game of the season so the losers are not in the playoffs. Do I need to bring up yadier Molina and So Tagucchi homers for the cardinals?
The mets are not a factor. If they were up 9 games I would discount them. Do somethng. Dont be the biggest chokers in sports. then we will discuss considering the losers. How long ago was Castilla dropping that ball in the big game vs your cross town rivals? Losers are losers. You dont factor losers. At least I dont. I am worried about the Braves and Marlins.
June 25th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
@Dan: So if somebody hits you, that gives you the right to hit somebody who never did anything to you? Is that they way it works in New York?
June 25th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Did anyone else just see Charlie try to spit his gum out (and fail)?! hahaha Hilarious
June 25th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
can someone tell me why if the phillies never feel they’re out of a game even by 5 runs, why are they using TRASHner??
why is he even on the team??
June 25th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
You’re a troll, Dan. You’re an @sshole. And you’re trying to defend your right to be an @sshole by pointing out that people have been @ssholes to you. Well, I’m sorry to hear that, but I never did anything to you, and I’m tired of you taking out your emotional problems on us.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
The worst thing about the way they are playing is my 5 year old son who is upset that they can’t win! And not to mention his favorite player who waved and signed his ball is benched!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
@DJ: You mean JRoll? Yeah, what’s up with that? I mean, I know he’s been slumping very badly, but he’s not exactly the only one.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
J roll is benched for his stupid play last night. So pedro Feliz should be benched tomorrow. Should stairs be?
Soon enough they will all be benched for stupid play.
Bruntlet is not a legitimate replacement at SS though. Dobbs can be at third.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
@ Tracey Why even bother Dan, Eli, MR immature Shitarino are here everytime the Phils lose and Muts win regardless! Thats just the way they are more worried about our team then their own! If the Phils win tomorrow and the Muts lose then they wont say anything!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Ah, here’s a detailed article about the JRoll situation:
http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090625&content_id=5530736&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Did the Phils start stumbling once the Castillo picture went up at the top of the page?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
to me, using trashner is basically saying the phillies dont even care and give up….he’s totally useless and cant even go ONE inning without giving up a run
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
this is so badddd. we are playing like the mets. god we are aweful. 4 runs in the first and thats it. Feliz is stupid. Stairs does not hustle. Bruntlett playing short, give me a break. Our pitching is scary aweful..We will be behind florida and the mets soon.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Oh, good grief, just finish the game
June 25th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
@ Tracey yea its JRoll but maybe this benching will be like Mcnabbs! Bring him back to earth and get him focused cus him and Hamels have to start walking the walk now
June 25th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
This is why I didn’t want the replay rule. Bleh.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
I love Eli. We are the two Jews. Thats all thats good about him.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
@DJ: Yeah, I hope this clears out JRoll’s head. He’s better than he’s playing, he’s just psyched himself out, but I’ve never been clear on what’s the best way to get past that.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
@ Tracey, I think the best thing to do is bat him 5th since Raul isn’t in right now to help his confidence! Move him like they did Big Papi and when Raul comes back make him sixth!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Hey Andrew whos Castilla hahaha
June 25th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
THE YANKEES WILL SWEEP THE MUTS. The Mets are so bad.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
@DJ: He seems to do better later in the order, but he doesn’t like being there, and Charlie likes to keep his players happy.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Anyone think Howard shoulda played first, Dobbs at short since he is a third baseman and DH’d Mayberry? Mayberry is good
June 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Im: well with the injury to Eyre and a shakey JC, they need a left hander even if it means shakey followed by more shakey. Odds typically favor lefty pitchers vs. lefty batters. just a guess
June 25th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I’m getting coffee, ugh!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
@DJ: I think Howard may still be recovering from his illness, so they’re taking it easy on him. But I would definitely like to see Mayberry in here. Honestly, I like him better than Stairs.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
@ Tracey, Well he needs to take one for the team then! He opened his mouth about the Phillies beating the Mets again so now he needs to help his team anyway he can! He is one of the leaders time to act like one
June 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
@J Reed: too long and slow for you? I hear you.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
well at least we’ve seen wheeler….I think he was with the Stros….
June 25th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
@ Tracey, I agree I mean you let Werth bat against righties and he has been horrible lately! You have to give a kid like that more shots. I think I like Coste playing first and hitting then instead of the beard!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Ugh.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Somebody heard me! Mayberry is in for Stairs!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
tracey: need to stay awake for 2 hours post game self punishment: listening to sports radio, pouring over stats., checking trade rumors, head scratching, arm chair GMing….
June 25th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
The Phils have 4 scoring innings out of 27 in this series granted if they don’t score next inning! The whole stairs and dobbs line up isnt working! Coste and Mayberry have to be in the lineup tomorrow
June 25th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
The saddest thing of all is the Mets have so many injuries and still are right there. You can’t say anything about the Mets this year because they are using a hybrid AAA team.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
@J Reed: I don’t think I could take that much torture!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
@ Rivlez once their catchers go cold the Mets are done! They have won them alot of games but that can only last for so long
June 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Re Lidge: Um… yeah, not exactly a save situation at the moment
June 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
That was a pretty flip.l
June 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Oh, NICE catch, Carlos!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
It only has to last for a tad longer. They have lost 2 starters and 3 of the top 4 hitters on the team. They just need to keep doing what they are doing now and they will be fine, especially if the Phillies play like they have been. They are an absolutely MESS right now. Why do you guys think so?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Yea that was nice! He was all over that!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
THAT’S what I’m talking about! Why didn’t he start this game, Charlie???
June 25th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
I want to see the Phillies lose Howard, Utley and Ibanez. And then lose their 3 & 4 pitchers. I seriously doubt they would even be remotely decent.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Aw, crap. Feliz is another guy who really needs to get his head together.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
remember when we used to win series? those days were fun.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
phillies suck
June 25th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
We lost our #2 pitcher our closer, Ibanez basically Rollins (an actual MVP) and Howard the last week as long as Beltran so don’t give me those excuses! you lost more games with all of them then with them!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
(sigh) Feliz for the Jeltz. His baserunning error killed one potential rally, and he GIDP in the top of the 9th to kill our come-back at the end of the game.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
I mean, I’m glad he broke out of his hitless streak, but really, he blew this game bad.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Yea Last series we won was at the Mets! 3 more Interleague games and its back against the NL
June 25th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Honestly, this is the same record we had in 15 games of Interleague play last year. Didn’t keep us from winning the WS then.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
howard for 2 games rollins is playin never got hurt
June 25th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Triple Mets are half game behind the Phillies…. PATHETIC.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Here’s an interesting blog entry from one year ago today that I hope puts things into perspective:
http://www3.allaroundphilly.com/blogs/intercounty/ontheedge/2008/06/interleague-shows-where-phils-stand.html
June 25th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Lets be serious for a sec. Brett Myers is terrible he’s nothing better than Oliver Perez and as a matter of fact, he’s never had a year as good as Perez has had. You lost Howard for what 2 games?!?! C’mon get real DJ. You didn’t lose Rollins, he is just playing how he should be playing. Ibanez is the only one you can say anything about. DJ you are a delirious person and see only what you want to see. I am being serious and talking as a baseball fan, not a Met fan.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
When ur not playing the field you get out of rhythm! my point is stop making excuses stay on your boards and stay out of ours!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Don’t be a sore loser. Facts is facts.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
RiVLez, you might want to take a look at that blog entry I just linked. One year ago today, the Phils were coming off *exactly* the same kind of slumping losing streak, just barely in first place after a dominating lead, and people were making *exactly* the same kind of comments I’m hearing here tonight… and yet, we won it all.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
The more Phillies fans show how miserable “trolls” make you….and the more you pay attention….the more the trolls will come….it clearly drives you insane.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
That’s not delusion; that’s reality.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Keep reflecting on the past Tracey that will do your team a lot of good….your pitching staff is absolute shit.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
You can’t compare Myers to Perez! Cora is playing better than Reyes was, Delgado is old and Beltran well nothing I can say about him! John Maine is alright unlike you I played against him in High School which he went to North Stafford and I went to Brooke Point so A baseball fan no a player yes!
June 25th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Good point, Bill. Interesting to note that many of them disappeared around 10 PM, though there was plenty of game left. Maybe phan1 was right: they’re 12 year olds, and 10 PM is their bed time.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
DJ = douche . . . I played high school baseball with John Maine. WOW can i have your autograph
June 25th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
I’m sorry I sucked today guys, my shoulder hurt all day.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it, Bill. Yes, we’ve got problems, but to suggest that the season is over because we’re only half a game ahead and play… that’s ridiculous, and we know it’s ridiculous, because we’ve pulled out of situations every bit as bad.
June 25th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Shitarino (aka ToniBastard), you’re up past your bedtime aren’t you?
June 25th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Bill U immature @sshole go back to your hole! He challenged me as a fan, ur probably one of those 40 yr old B1tches that sit around n try to call people names and talk sh1t cus u have no life and sit around and jerk off all day! Stick to softball u fat b1tch!
June 25th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
even the Mets have more heart than this team, I’m the only playing hard.
June 25th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
hahah looks like they are fighting eachother now….this is great
June 25th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
I don’t like hypocrites like Looserino
June 25th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Like I said this week…you put the best 9 out there and hope one or two have a great game.The thing with the Amazins is,people are stepping up while some of the healthy Phils (J-Roll in particular) is showing no heart.Both teams have serious injuries to players who are sparkplugs to their teams Reyes and Beltran for us,Myers and Ibanez for you.Now its a slender 1/2 game that separates us,Someone on your team REALLY needs to stand up because once Reyes and Beltran return…..WATCH OUT! PS How bout that Nieve kid.
June 26th, 2009 at 12:44 am
@DJ, rivelz has a point. the injuries that the mets have sustained this year have been incredible. you really cant compare the phillies injuries at all. losing 3 out of your 4 best hitter, 2 of them for considerable stretches, plus 2 starters, your setup man, your backup ss [which wouldnt matter normally, except the starter was already out], your starting catcher [he may not be joe mauer, but he has experience working with the staff that you lose with a guy like santos] its ridiculous. howard for two days, lidge for 2 weeks, myers and ibanez isnt the same. Ibanez is really the only injury that has been detrimental to the phils since myers was doing much worse than happ, and lidge had already blown something like 6 saves. the mets are the most injured team in baseball by a long shot. the phils should be up 8 games in the standings
June 26th, 2009 at 12:45 am
LOL ShameLooserino!! Thats hysterical. This thread was a great read.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:55 am
A little light reading for Shame Looserino and his ilk:
http://loseloose.com/
June 26th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Or to sum that page up as the title does:
Only losers spell it “looser”