Gamenight: Red Sox (37-24) At Phillies (35-24)

Posted by Tim Malcolm, Sat, June 13, 2009 06:04 PM

sawxlogo Boston Red Sox (37-24) at Philadelphia Phillies (35-24)
Daisuke Matsuzaka (1-4, 7.33 ERA) vs. Antonio Bastardo (2-0, 2.45 ERA)
Time: 7:05 p.m. at Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia
Weather: Cloudy, 71
TV: MyPhl 17
Twitter: Phillies Nation

The thrills continued last night in a heavyweight bout between possibly baseball’s best two teams. The Red Sox came away the victors thanks to a game of pinball off Kyle Kendrick. He was just demoted again.

Now the Phils counter with Antonio Bastardo, the cagey lefty with a plus fastball and supposedly plus-plus changeup. He might have to use that more often tonight with the big-hitting Sox lineup ready to take him down. Bastardo last kept the Dodgers at bay Sunday night, going five innings and giving up two runs on seven hits.

Boston has Daisuke Matsuzaka on the hill. He’s had many short outings thanks to his high-pitch tendencies and an injury earlier in the season. In fact, he hasn’t ever finished six. And he’s very hittable: Lefties are hitting .333 against him; righties are striking at .418.

Boston hitters are .266 against left-handed pitchers.

Your gamenight beer: Here’s a beer I just purchased: Three Philosophers, by Brewery Ommegang in Cooperstown. Baseball’s first town has some pretty good beers, and this is no exception. It’ll be the first time I try this one tonight, so I’ll deliver some thoughts on Three Philosophers via Twitter. I’ll be eating some pasta with olives and peppers, maybe grilling some pork to keep the carbs low. Here’s to good beer.

Go Phillies!

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290 Responses to “Gamenight: Red Sox (37-24) At Phillies (35-24)”

  1. jmus97 Says:

    i’m about to check the starting lineup and if jimmy is leading off i’m not even going to watch… alright i am gonna watch but i’m not happy about it

  2. Griffin Says:

    Big test for Bastardo tonight. With Beckett going tomorrow, this is the Phils best chance at a win. Let’s go Bastardo!

  3. EDGE Says:

    Rollins
    Victorino
    Utley
    Howard
    Ibanez
    Werth
    Feliz
    Ruiz
    Bastardo

  4. Adam Says:

    WHY!!! This is starting to really get me angry, the whole jroll leading off. And I don’t want to hear the whole “he only leads off once” talk. The whole job of the leadoff guy is to see as many pitches as he can so the rest of the line-up knows what kind of stuff the guy is tossing, not just to get on base. Rollins just does not do that. He better explode tonight and prove me wrong.

  5. EDGE Says:

    “The whole job of the leadoff guy is to see as many pitches as he can so the rest of the line-up knows what kind of stuff the guy is tossing, not just to get on base. Rollins just does not do that. He better explode tonight and prove me wrong.”

    Who should lead off then? Werth? He sees the most pitches per AB.

  6. Adam Says:

    EDGE, go ask the ‘93 team what helped get to the WS the most. I’ve heard most of them talk about it, and they all say that Dykstra’s ability to take pitches and foul off so many pitches helped the rest of the line-up when they stepped up later. So Werth is out since he just watches two pitches and then misses. Now if Rollins was had a .400 OBP, then seeing pitches wouldn’t matter as much. But he’s not doing either of those things.

  7. EDGE Says:

    Adam, I’m not disputing that JRoll doesn’t see a lot pitches or is the prototypical leadoff guy. But, I don’t think there’s anyone in this roster that fits that mold. Vic probably takes less pitches than Rollins, his OBP is higher but not all that great. I wouldn’t mind Vic leading off because hes hitting better than Rollins right now.

  8. Ed R. Says:

    Wow this is borderline laughable…

  9. Adam Says:

    wow. not used to seeing this kinda stuff from the team

  10. kt Says:

    so are they trying to lose or what??

  11. Sean A Says:

    Jeez this isn’t the way i was hoping for this to start.. jeez

  12. Ed R. Says:

    Why do the Phillies play so poorly at home? I just don’t get it.

  13. Adam Says:

    uhhhhh….ummmmm….what?

  14. Joshua Says:

    thats what happens when u only have one pitch

  15. Thunder Lips Says:

    Keep throwing that fastball 95% of the time, Antonio, and it’ll be 10-0 Bosox before you know it.

  16. kt Says:

    its supposed to rain the whole night…dont know if they will even get far into this game

  17. Thunder Lips Says:

    Pray for a rainout before the 5th inning!

  18. Griiffin Says:

    Damn, I was worried the AL East would expose Bastardo. I think it’s obvious that we need to trade for another starter.

  19. Adam Says:

    i thought we sent kendrick down? and since when did he become a lefty?

  20. Terri Says:

    what a disaster!

  21. Sean A Says:

    Wow it has been awhile since i last seen the Phils play this sloppy before.. oh man

  22. Adam Says:

    its like we turned in to a bunch of castillos out in the field that inning. that was brutal

  23. Joshua Says:

    PLEASE RAIN OUT>>

  24. Ed R. Says:

    glad I looked forward all day to the game…guess I’ll just watch something else.

  25. Joe Says:

    Unable to tune in PHL-17 tonight over the air. (Yes, I am using a digital tuner). Is anyone else having difficulty?

    It may be censorship for my own good, though, from the way MLB GameDay is describing the events of this game.

  26. Corinne Says:

    uhh… what just happened? have the phils even had a 3 error GAME this year?

    …3 error inning?? seriously??

  27. Joe Says:

    I forgot how little I enjoyed the Interleague month last year.

  28. Brian of CO Says:

    Sorry this is “almost laughable” This is by far the most embarrassing game I have ever watched. Are you serious? 3 walks, 3 errors and 1 HR, in ONE count that agin 1 inning. The headline at the end of the game, “The game was over when…The Red Sox woke up”. 3 up 3 down against Daisuke? WOW.

  29. Terri Says:

    I hope it rains all night!

  30. Griffin Says:

    The Phillies are telling us to spend some time with friends and family tonight. Nothing to see here tonight.
    Now we have to face Beckett tomorrow.

    Thank goodness we play in the weaker league or this would happen more often.

  31. lm Says:

    i didnt even think they would have started the game considering the weather but i hope it gets rained out..the phillies need a day off anyway

  32. PGD Says:

    the bullpen is going to be dead after this weekend

  33. Brian of CO Says:

    There is a god! Rain Delay. Boston is only .500 on the Road too. Well thanks to us, because they were 1 game under .500 on the road until yesterday, and if they continuing playing today it will more than likely be 1 game over .500.

  34. Brian of CO Says:

    Has any of our pitchers given up 3 walks and 5 runs in the 1st inning this year?

  35. Matt Says:

    mother nature loves the phillies.
    Except for the WS

  36. Brian of CO Says:

    Should they have even started the game if it was bad in the first place, and already a delay after the first inning? BS. Be prepared for the trolls coming in any second now.

  37. PGD Says:

    it aint over yet!

  38. j reed Says:

    I just got in…was listening to the carnage on the radio…was it raining like this when the game started?

  39. Brian of CO Says:

    Thats what Im afraid of PGD. LOL.

  40. NJ Says:

    missed the top of the first, can someone please summarise what the f*ck just happened…?

  41. Ed R. Says:

    Well I wonder who starts when the game resumes? Maybe move Happ up a day and then call someone up to start tomorrow? Unless Park wants to pitch two days in a row. I bet he would if they let him. Somehow Park coming in is sort of a good thing….WOW

  42. CT Says:

    to pass the time, if you have comcast in philly, you can watch the lehigh valley iron pigs play the charlotte knights on channel 272

  43. Ed R. Says:

    Phillies had three errors, Bastardo walked a couple guys…I think 3. Bastardo threw 95% fastballs, one of which Bay hit out for a 3-0 homer, there were a few more hits and then the Phillies went 1,2,3 in the bottom half.

  44. boxage Says:

    embarrassing

  45. j reed Says:

    ed r.- I was on the road listening to radio so i didn’t see Bastardo
    pitch…of the 5% that were not fastballs what did he throw? How about his slider….was it breaking well?

  46. Ed R. Says:

    The 5% that weren’t fastballs were generally taken for balls. There a little break, not enough that you could consider it an out pitch or anything.

  47. Antonio Bastardo Says:

    Just trying to pass the time during the rain delay. I want alll you guys to relax. I’ll come out and only throw 90% FB for the rest of the game.

    Hey if any of you guys are going to be in the Lehigh Valley area tomorrow, look me up, I’ll be down there tomorrow morning.

  48. Adam Says:

    anyone know if/when play might resume? i dont know why i want to subject myself to the pain that will be the last EIGHT innings, but oh well.

  49. doug Says:

    Come on Phillies!

  50. CT Says:

    the game will resume at 9:10 according to Scott Lauber and Todd Zolecki, via Twitter

  51. Terri Says:

    chad durbin is the pitchers

  52. CT Says:

    the Phillies bullpen is going to be decimated by the all star break if this keeps up

  53. Brian of CO Says:

    Are you kidding me CT. Why re start the game id they only got in 1 inning? Neither starting pitcher can come back in I wouldnt think, and the tell a BP to pitch 8 innings is stupidity. Oh wait drunk man Selig is the commissioner.

  54. CT Says:

    the game is resuming right now. durbin just got pedroia to ground out

  55. Brian of CO Says:

    Ok so If Durbis is on his stuff tonight, he can hold them scoreless, if he off at all, the Phils will give up 15. Durbin is like a box of chocolates. LOL

  56. Ed R. Says:

    Kinda sucks that there was a delay, I felt better about facing Dice-K than any of the Sox relievers.

  57. Brian of CO Says:

    is it still raining?

  58. Terri Says:

    no it is not raining. Quick inning for Durbin.

  59. CT Says:

    wow, great 1-2-3 inning by durbin there. i wonder how many innings will he stay out for.

  60. Brian of CO Says:

    Question is, will the offense wake up today? I can almost guarantee, they will hit the bottom of the 5th, and call it just to make it official.

  61. Adam Says:

    so they send bastardo down and bring in an arm for the pen tomorrow?

  62. CT Says:

    wow, Daisuke is still in the game

  63. Ed R. Says:

    I spoke too soon. Looks like Dice-K is back out there.

  64. Terri Says:

    Dice K is pitching.

  65. j reed Says:

    thanks ed r.
    crap hoped the game would be cancelled

  66. Brian of CO Says:

    Yea avoid any more embarrassment for the team.

  67. CT Says:

    haha, Howard just tried to steal 2nd! Charlie had a good laugh off that.

  68. Brian of CO Says:

    oh crap. 2 outs in a second im afraid. Hopefully im wrong.

  69. Brian of CO Says:

    well heck at least he made contact.

  70. j reed Says:

    hope j-roll was taking notes during that feliz ab

  71. Brian of CO Says:

    I really just have no idea what is up with J-Roll and Werth. J-Roll was an MVP because he is a vacuum in the field, and was a good hitter, I believe around .300 I think, now, he is at .220, and only because of the time he was hitting lower in the lineup. Its not like werth was a .350 hitter or anything, but this slump is disturbing. I am also not sure if Daisuke has ever pitcher 2 shut out innings this season.

  72. Tracey Says:

    I was hoping the rain would bail Bastardo out of that nasty 1st inning. I guess the bats will have to do that for him. But not like that.

  73. Brian of CO Says:

    Well At least it took him 6 pitches to get out this time rather than the normal 3-4 pitches.

  74. Brian of CO Says:

    not sure if its good or bad that Dice-k is already over 50 pitches. LOL.

  75. Tracey Says:

    @Brian: base stealing was another thing J Roll was known for. He was the fastest Phil until Victorino came along. NICE HIT!

  76. Tracey Says:

    I don’t think there’s anybody else on the team who could have gotten a double out of that well-fielded hit.

  77. Brian of CO Says:

    Come on Utley, show the world why you are a consistent All Star.

  78. The Little Guy Says:

    Phillies don’t hit japanese pitchers. Honestly wasn’t looking for much production from the offense as long as Dice K is pitching, but Bastardo and th defense? Wow. Bad first inning

  79. Brian of CO Says:

    Utley taking first pitch is nice actually. Drive upthe pitch count a bit.

  80. Ed R. Says:

    I get Charlie wanting to be loyal to his players but when the guy with the worst average of your starting 8 is the lead off hitter then something needs to be done. It’s about winning ball games not feelings. This crap has to end. Rollins needs to go back in the 6 hole.

  81. Tracey Says:

    I missed the first inning — it was raining so hard here in the ‘burbs, it never occurred to me that they were playing!

  82. Brian of CO Says:

    Bad? 1 error 3 runs is a bad first inning. 5 runs 3 errors and 3 walks is a HORRIBLE first inning.

  83. Tracey Says:

    @Ed: Yeah, we seemed to get more production with JRoll in the 6 spot and Victorino up front. I know JRoll doesn’t likie it, but you can’t argue with what works.

  84. CT Says:

    WOOOO on the board!

  85. Terri Says:

    Good Job Utley!!

  86. Tracey Says:

    Whee! As soon as I saw that thing come off the bat, I know Victorino was coming home.

  87. Brian of CO Says:

    That would be why Utley is an All Star. Is this his 4th in a row? or 3rd?

  88. Tracey Says:

    The good thing about that rain: apparently, it’s past the trolls’ bed time. :)

  89. Brian of CO Says:

    Well at least we werent shut out. Howard already at 0-2.

  90. Brian of CO Says:

    true dat Tracey!

  91. The Little Guy Says:

    Stop it with Rollins, he is hitting the ball hard consistently, just not getting the hits. Ortiz is hitting .200 and is batting 4th for the Red Sox.

    Does it really matter where he is batting after the first inning? He’s hitting the ball hard but right at people and not being able to get the 2/3 hit games to help his average.

    Here’s a better question who you gonna put lead off instead of Rollins? Victorino? He is just at bad, swinging at bad pitches, first pitch pop-ups.

  92. Tracey Says:

    argh… Howard got gyped…

  93. Brian of CO Says:

    Is anyone back in the stands, or is it empty?

  94. CT Says:

    damn, that was a good snag by Lowell, you have to admit

  95. Ed R. Says:

    Son of a b*tch…great catch by Lowell. Can’t catch a break tonight.

  96. Joshua Says:

    wow…if the shift was on..it was a hit..

  97. Tracey Says:

    @Little Guy: No offense to Rollins; I don’t know why it works, but we did seem to get better run production when he was in the 6th position.

  98. Tracey Says:

    Looks surprisingly full on TV. I would have been, as Harry would say, “Outta here.”

  99. Joshua Says:

    It seems like Rollins is pressing too much to get his average up in one swing…. he needs to just hit it into the hole.. that year he hit all those homeruns killed him

  100. Tracey Says:

    Oof.

  101. The Little Guy Says:

    Tracey he went 3for4 ONE game in the 6th hole.

  102. Brian of CO Says:

    Tracey has a point, defend him all you wants, facts are facts, he hits better this year when he isnt leading off. Even Victorino was more patient when he was leading off. Also kind of funny you saying how Victorino isnt good at lead off when his average is 60 points higher than Rollins, and he just hit a double. LOL.

  103. Brian of CO Says:

    yea and 2-4 in another and 1 for 4 in a few others. When he is leading off, I dont think he has more than 2 hits in a game.

  104. Brian of CO Says:

    The Little Guy, you are acting like everyone wants J-Roll top be benched. People are saying mix it up. No one is saying pull him, people are saying mix it up for a while.

  105. Ed R. Says:

    Little Guy he also went 2-4 for the night before when he was also in the 6th hole. Then when he went back to lead off…0-5. Since going back to leadoff he is 1-17…yep, thats exactly what I want out of my lead off hitter. It would be one thing if he took a lot of pitches, let the other guys see what the pitcher has that night, jack up the pitch count but he doesn’t even do that.

  106. Tracey Says:

    @Little Guy: Well, he only played two gamesin the 6 slot, right? And I’m not just thinking about his batting average; I’m thinking about the team’s overall run production, which seemed to be better when he was in that slot. The overall strategy changes when people are in different slots.

  107. Tracey Says:

    Hmn… sounds like a lot of the remaining fans are Red Sox fans. There was a lot of cheering on that walk.

  108. Tracey Says:

    Definitely looks like he’s doing the pee pee dance.

  109. Brian of CO Says:

    Tracey, he played a few more in the 6th, and also I think hit 5th a few games with Raul hitting 6th or something.

  110. The Little Guy Says:

    Brian, im not saying Rollins isn’t off this year or anything.

    Early in the year is what brought him in the hole he is in now, lately he has been hitting the ball hard for the most part, just right at people.

    How many times have you seen Victorino come up with men on base and swing and pop the ball up, he is a dinky little slap hitter. When he swings like your supposed too he drives the ball, he gets caught a lot by dropping his elbow and hands and getting under the ball, much like what Rollins has been doing for most of the year, except lately he has kind of fixed that problem.

    Stop looking at all the numbers, and look at at-bats. I realize Rollins is struggling, but half the people wake up in the morning, look at his average and box score from the night before and see he is 0-3. and .220, but they don’t see how he is hitting the ball, he basically has absolutley no luck either, which isn’t helping him.

  111. Tracey Says:

    (the pee pee dance, for those who don’t get the reference, is the dance you do when there is a long line for the toilet and you’ve *REALLY* got to go…)

  112. The Little Guy Says:

    People i think he is playing better in the 6th hole, but your reading into where they bat too much. It doesn’t bring in a different mentality no matter where thye hit, they still do all the same things.

    To me it seems that you think Ruiz and Utley have completely different approaches at the plate. No, they go about their business the same way, honestly, you could make a case for Ruiz being in a tougher situtation because he doesn’t get much to hit AT ALL with the pitcher on deck, and who is behind Utley? Haha Howard.

  113. Tracey Says:

    RAUUUUUULLLLLLL!!!!!!

  114. CT Says:

    RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!

  115. Terri Says:

    RAUL!!!!

  116. The Little Guy Says:

    Enough about Rollins playing like spit, lets get this joke Dice K out of the game, and score some runs.

  117. Brian of CO Says:

    What scores run not getting luck and hitting right at people but really hard, or hitting the gap once a game. But honestly Little Guy, I suggest you do the same, and look at his averages from where he is in the line-up. He has hit other than lead off quite a few times, and his average is over .300 when he isnt. So what is the harm in switching up the line -up. Thank god for Raul.

  118. Tracey Says:

    Agreed, especially since the game is getting interesting!

  119. Brian of CO Says:

    Nice Werth with a hit. Its about time buddy.

  120. CT Says:

    PPPEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

  121. Terri Says:

    YES YES YES!!!!!

  122. Tracey Says:

    WOO HOO!!!! IT’S A 5-4 BALLGAME!!!

  123. The Little Guy Says:

    Sometimes it looks so easy…..

  124. Tracey Says:

    Fe-LIZ!

  125. Ed R. Says:

    VOTE FOR PEDRO!!!!!

  126. Brian of CO Says:

    Wow only if we didnt give up 3 walks and 3 errors in the first. Dice-K is making this game bearable. LOL

  127. Ed R. Says:

    This is exactly why I was praying Dice K would come back out after the rain delay. Amen

  128. Joshua Says:

    we usually win the games after a long rain delay

  129. Brian of CO Says:

    All we needed was Howard to walk last inning, and we would be tied. LOL. Hopefully we can get a few more.

  130. The Little Guy Says:

    Brian, im all for moving him back in the line up, basically cause it make him concentrate more on putting good at-bats together, instead of trying to hit a double to get in scoring position.

    But i know, you know, Jesus knows, Manuel isn’t going to drop him for a long period of time, he loves him at Leadoff, and is going to stick with him. It’s going to either make him look like a genius if he starts hitting or a moron, we shall see, more than half the season to go…

  131. Brian of CO Says:

    I guess Durbin is out already huh? Maybe Coste can at least move the runner up.

  132. The Little Guy Says:

    Wow, dice K got squeezed on that pitch, thats a strike.

  133. The Little Guy Says:

    When Coste walks up to the plate anymore, i just chalk up an out.

  134. Ed R. Says:

    Just curious…why would we use Coste to face Dice-K…we do have lefties on the bench…3 of them in fact.

  135. Brian of CO Says:

    @The Little Guy, you are confusing me, first you say “your reading into where they bat too much. It doesn’t bring in a different mentality no matter where thye hit, they still do all the same things.” than just said “cause it make him concentrate more on putting good at-bats together, instead of trying to hit a double to get in scoring position. “

  136. Brian of CO Says:

    @ The Little Guy, I do the same, but I also do the same for Werth and J-Roll, and look at what Werth did!

  137. Terri Says:

    at least he did not hit into a DP!

  138. Terri Says:

    WTF Shane?!?

  139. Brian of CO Says:

    Is he swinging for the fence again? What is this first pitch swing crap.

  140. Matt Says:

    F*** Coste and Rollins.
    I’m happy we narrowed it to 1. But rollins and vic need to do more with their AB’s, mainly Rollins. And for God’s Sake Chris Coste can you look like a professional batter just once.

  141. The Little Guy Says:

    I know Brian, that was awful, im confusing myself. Forget what i said in the beginning, because while i do believe that, for Rollins, your right, he does have a different mentality, when i said it doesn’t matter where people bat, i was thinking of Ibanez, Utley, and Werth.

  142. Brian of CO Says:

    Taschner scare me a little, but not as much as Kendrick.

  143. Ed R. Says:

    I honestly can’t remember a Philadelphia athlete cashing in on the merits of a few good months from two years ago like Coste has the last two years.

  144. The Little Guy Says:

    See what i mean about Vic, the only people in the lineup who consistenly put together good at-bats are Utley, Ibanez and Ruiz.

  145. Brian of CO Says:

    LOL. You are definately correct about Ibanez and Utley, not sure about Werth. I even think Victorino has a different mentality.

  146. Brian of CO Says:

    Feliz as well. Hell he is hitting .314!

  147. Ed R. Says:

    Why do you bring in Taschner who gets mauled by righties when 3 straight righties are due up? WTF is Charlie doing tonight?

  148. The Little Guy Says:

    Sometimes Victorino reminds me of a slap hitter in womens softball.

  149. Matt Says:

    god i hate this reliever

  150. Brian of CO Says:

    Oh crap. Please dont make me eat my words Tashner. At least Kendrick has a 1-2-3 inning.

  151. Adam Says:

    so we could have kept durbin (who was looking pretty good) and used him to move a runner along…but instead bring in “K-man” Coste and then have to go with taschner? Some of chucks moves the last two nights have me going “huh”

  152. The Little Guy Says:

    Taschner defintley doesn’t get “mauled” by righties.

    Righties are batting .232

    While lefties are batting .304

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=6314

  153. Matt Says:

    F*** YOU JACK, F*** YOU
    YOUVE DONE NOTHING PRODUCTIVE FOR THIS TEAM
    WORTHLESS

  154. mg52 Says:

    Did Tom McCarthy just say “helluva play?”

  155. Ed R. Says:

    I guess Charlie would rather play from 5 down…way to go fat Charlie…way to misuse your bullpen…again.

  156. CT Says:

    durbin couldn’t have stayed in longer. he threw 56 pitches which is the most he’s thrown all year. you need to preserve his arm somewhat, and after going 3 innings strong he needed to come out.

  157. PGD Says:

    great taschner just proving why he never comes into the game

  158. Brian of CO Says:

    Charlie has been doing wierd stuff all season. It makes me wonder who was really in charge last year, him or the Bench coach. LOL.

  159. Terri Says:

    goodness, can we please keep this a close game

  160. The Dipsy Says:

    Taschner should not be on this team.

    The Dipsy

  161. Matt Says:

    Seriously, Chris Coste to provide needed offense?
    Jack Taschner to get out righties?
    Jack Taschner and Kyle Kendrick do not deeserve to be in the major leagues.
    Period.

  162. The Little Guy Says:

    Yo matt, calm down dude.

    He came in and his throwing strikes and they are putting some hits up against him. What more can he do?

    It’s the 5th inning, as long as he doesn’t come in walking people, the other team does it too, oh yeah..their pretty good too that Red Sox team..

  163. Brian of CO Says:

    Hmm, I cant believe I am wondering if we can bring Kendrick back to get rid of Tashner.

  164. Matt Says:

    case in point

  165. Terri Says:

    yup, should have left durbin in the game. Taschner sucks

  166. The Little Guy Says:

    Matt, genuius i mean.

    Lefites are batting .304, while righties only .232.

  167. Adam Says:

    I dunno, CT. The whole pen’s been taxed with all these extra inning games, and this is one of those nights you just gotta squeeze a little more out. Oh, and can we just start bringing up ALL the prospects who can get a ball 60 ft 6 in. and just see if any work.

  168. The Little Guy Says:

    genius*

  169. PGD Says:

    this is so damn frustrating after getting within 1 run, just release this guy already he has no value to the phillies or anyone else

  170. Brian of CO Says:

    Hmm, I was bashing Kendrick for giving up 3 runs in 2 innings against the top of the lineup, and Tashner comes in and gives up 2 in 1 innings from clean-up on, with only 1 out

  171. Matt Says:

    I just don’t understand why you bring Taschner in a close game. Escalona has shown glimpses of steady pitching, why not use him. Chawlie brought him up. In a game like this, where a relief pitcher shows his true colors, Jack “Unproven” Taschner should not be brought into the game.

  172. PGD Says:

    wow a strikeout

  173. Brian of CO Says:

    Wow, Talk about a slump. Ortiz.

  174. Brian of CO Says:

    Matt I think Taschner is proven. Just not the proven we were looking for. LOL

  175. The Little Guy Says:

    Jack Tascher WOULDN’T be in this game if the starter didn’t get knocked out after the first inning and if the bullpen wasn’t already taxed with so many innings.

    Your all right, he’s not the guy i want in this situation, but their in a tought situation with Bastardo getting knocked out, and thats all they got for now. Only the top of the 5th tho.

  176. Terri Says:

    OMG, Taschner has got to go! All that work for nothing!

  177. PGD Says:

    ahhhhhhh! take him out already

  178. PGD Says:

    thanks alot taschner for completely wasting feliz and ibanez homers

  179. Adam Says:

    “Jack Taschner was released by the Phillies this morning.” I want to see that in print tomorrow

  180. Ed R. Says:

    The worst part is, we are stuck with this sad excuse for a pitcher at least until Eyre comes back. And even then, unless Escalona pitches lights out, we are still suck with him.

  181. Matt Says:

    Jack Taschner must like getting mollywopped by professional batters, and killing every ounce oh Phillie momentum. Congratulations, you Jack continue to prove why you are not worth pitching.

  182. Terri Says:

    This inning will never end.

  183. Ed R. Says:

    Great idea…let’s walk a guy to load the bases for Youk…he is only hitting 341 but go ahead, that whole pitching around Ellsbury thing will work out I am sure.

  184. Brian of CO Says:

    He hasnt given up enough runs. Charlie doesnt want to take him out because it might ruin his confidence. As if giving up 3 runs in the first innintg he pitched, and walking the bases loaded with 2 outs wont ruin his confidence. What happened to Charlie?

  185. The Little Guy Says:

    I hate TMac, he’s such a tool.

  186. Ed R. Says:

    Nothing happened to Charlie…Jimy Williams left, thats what happened to the team.

  187. beta sigma shag Says:

    yea tashner is not pitching the best , and I usually never say anything about the umpires, and I know the phillies put themselves in this position. But this home plate ump really sucks, he calls the same pitch a ball and then a strike, they are getting more inconsistant then NBA refs, something really has to be done about that. I am not saying it would make a big difference in this game but this guys sucks

  188. Adam Says:

    THANK YOU SHANE!!! THANK THANK THANK YOU! and that my friends is the end of the Taschner experiment.

  189. Terri Says:

    I wonder why they decided to go with Trashner. I mean really? The game was 5-4, now it is 8-4. Good Catch Shane.

  190. Matt Says:

    I would say Jack Taschner was saved by being buried alive from Victorino, but unfortunately, good ole jack already dug his grave

  191. CT Says:

    we can’t blame charlie on this. blame all of the extra innings games we’ve had lately. you can’t keep taxing the bullpen by pulling guys and putting in more relief whenever a pitcher gets in trouble. after 3 long games in a row, you have to try and get as many pitches as you can get from someone like taschner since he’s thrown the least over the past couple of games.

  192. SDO Says:

    Taschner MLB Pitcher
    Kendrick MLB Pitcher

    GM should know better than that.

  193. The Little Guy Says:

    Youkilis-i think he is the most hated player in the league for opposing fans.

    I do not like him one.bit.

  194. Brian of CO Says:

    That was my point from earlier Ed R. I just honestly forgot Jimmy Williams name. Appreciate putting the name in there!

  195. beta sigma shag Says:

    but the sox can’t have much left in the pen, here comes another 4 run inning

  196. Adam Says:

    The good news is, when the pitching is horrible, the bats usually come alive.

  197. PGD Says:

    wow, taschner just proved that he is not even qualified for mop up duty anymore, complete and utter waste

  198. SDO Says:

    Youkilis has got to have the most annoying stance in baseball.

  199. Brian of CO Says:

    At least Kendrick went 1-2-3 his first inning in. Wasnt that also against the top of the lineup?

  200. SDO Says:

    Should read:

    Taschner not a “” MLB Pitcher
    Kendrick not a “” MLB Pitcher

    GM should know better than that.

  201. SDO Says:

    Pedroia is the whiniest little 2nd baseman in the league

  202. Adam Says:

    So which is the more annoying stance, Youkilis or knoblochs(sp?) awkward straight back bat thing he had going on. That always looked like it just hurt his elbows

  203. Brian of CO Says:

    Welcome back Chase Utley, we missed you yesterday. LOL.

  204. j reed Says:

    Brian of CO
    I always say it takes skill to hit a baseball but some luck for it to be a base hit. As long as someone is taking good swings at good pitches, makes contact and shows stituational awareness i.e plate discipline, the Law of Averages will eventually reward them…that’s why there’s 162 games…J-Roll’s fly ball that Ellsberry case in point, pretty text book but what he did in LA when Torre walked Stairs to get to him with men on 2nd and 3rd with two outs was anything but….I am not worried about him just impatient…as for Werth (that last AB was good) when he is slumping he looks lost as evident by the strike-outs on bad pitches. I think he loses the rotation on the ball which maybe from fatigue esp. IQ since he’s gone from platooning to everyday play…He has too much raw athletic ability, like his speed and agility which is god given, to give up on…however his baseball IQ is a little low…this is teachable. If lack of rest isn’t the culprit, then Milt Thompson needs to teach him how know pitches by their rotation because on some of those swings (ace pitching aside) he looks complete fooled. Now Ut, he’s the full package….

  205. The Little Guy Says:

    Red Sox do have some nasty pitchers coming out of the Pen

  206. Terri Says:

    Good Job Howard!

  207. Brian of CO Says:

    Annoying or not it seems to work for him sadly. I recall kruk had an odd stance as well.

  208. Ed R. Says:

    No prob Brian. I actually have been saying all season, actually since the day Jimy Williams left that Charlie was in serious trouble. Notice how often you would see Charlie talking to Jimy Williams last year. It seemed like before every pinch hitter, or pitching change Charlie was there with Jimy to his side…now…nothing. Charlie sits there by himself with his stop watch and pen and makes head scratching move after head scratching move.

    As for Youk…why is he hated? I actually think he is an excellent ball player and a true gamer.

  209. Brian of CO Says:

    Wow 2 hits for howard. Come on Raul, pad those stats buddy.

  210. Brian of CO Says:

    Thats exactly why he is hated by opposing teams and fans. Because he is a gamer.

  211. Brian of CO Says:

    Oh darn. Cant say much about that from Raul seeing how he already hit one out, and his average is still above .320 honestly. Would have like to see a sac fly though.

  212. Nick Says:

    Say the phils do make an amazing comeback and take the lead. Anybody have any idea who would close because madsons pitched 3 days in a row now.

  213. SDO Says:

    Werth, finally… pulling through this game.

  214. The Little Guy Says:

    Brian, i beg to differ on that about Youkilis. His own teammates don’t even like him.

  215. Adam Says:

    Nick, I say let stairs close. I’m sure that wiley vet has a few pitches up his sleeve

  216. Brian of CO Says:

    Wow, Werth with 2 hits today. First time in awhile. Nice work Werth! Homer ties it up.

  217. The Little Guy Says:

    Madson will close. This is a big game, Beckett is pitching tomorrow.

  218. SDO Says:

    Youkilis is a gamer but his ass shaking is not the most flattering stance a baseball player can have.

  219. Brian of CO Says:

    Well that might be true, but Im not the one wondering why he is hated by the opposing teams. LOL. I just know that alot of teams dont like him because he can hit the ball.

  220. The Little Guy Says:

    No, i don’t dislike anyplayer because their good, Youkilis is just annoying, stance, always complaining, stupid ass beard haha

  221. Ed R. Says:

    Raul…Utley…are both gamers and I am pretty sure they are not hated by the other players and fans.

  222. Brian of CO Says:

    Cant say much about Feliz either, already hit a homer today and hitting over .300. Again though, would have rather seen a fly ball to the outfield at least to try to move Howard to 3rd at the very least.

  223. Eli Says:

    Ill take Youkilis 8 times over Howard

  224. Eli Says:

    Well def in the long run

  225. Brian of CO Says:

    Utley is hated by the entire city of New York. LOL. Im pretty sure New York also hate Ibanez right about now also. LOL.

  226. The Little Guy Says:

    Eli, why is that?

  227. Eli Says:

    New York hates Ibanez ,but New Yorkers respect Utley. He is just too good of a player at second.

  228. The Little Guy Says:

    I don’t think so Brian. They hate Hamels and Rollins. I don’t think Utley or Ibanez very much..

  229. SDO Says:

    How didHoward not score on that play?

  230. Adam Says:

    ok chooch, keep it rolling. Anyone else get REALLY excited to see Howard just blow up a catcher?

  231. Brian of CO Says:

    Was that a hard hit and fast, or was Howard really doggin in?

  232. CT Says:

    oh man, i’d rather see Stairs here, but it’s probably too early to use him

  233. SDO Says:

    Let’s go Dobbs, lets prove how much of an ass that ump is

  234. The Little Guy Says:

    Hard hit right at Baldelli.

  235. Brian of CO Says:

    Don;t forget in New York last year for the All Star game the “Boo, F$%^ YOU!” LOL. Not to mention, They are probably hated because Both Utley and Ibanex beat the mets in extra innings last week. LOL.

  236. Mike D. Says:

    Why Dobbs? Why?

  237. Brian of CO Says:

    Hopefully Dobbs takes the same shot as yesterday just 40 feet to the left. LOL.

  238. j reed Says:

    Wonder who would win: Varitek or Howard if Howard kept coming and Varitek blocked the plate?

  239. SDO Says:

    How did Sarge get his job?

  240. Terri Says:

    Dobbs, just not the same as last year.

  241. Eli Says:

    Youkilis is so good on defense. He will have some gold-gloves. His average is so much higher. He is good for 30 home-runs. I also don’t think Ryan Howard is gonna last that long. He is a big dude and their careers are generally shorter. Youkilis could be a firstbasemen for the next 10 years.

  242. Ed R. Says:

    Way to go Greg Dobbs…rally killer.

  243. The Little Guy Says:

    Howard is a man child

  244. Adam Says:

    I don’t think there’s a single catcher who would win against RyHo on a play at the plate.

  245. Eli Says:

    But Ill take Howard for this 3 year deal.

  246. Brian of CO Says:

    Basesloaded 2 outs, do you want to put a.) Dobbs in hitting .192, no power. or b.) Stairs in hitting over.300 with power. Tough call I guess. I think they need to go to Jimy Williams again. I know they begged once, but please, try one more time. Throw the damn back at him.

  247. Ed R. Says:

    Youk won a gold glove in 2007.

  248. PGD Says:

    no stairs, WHY??

  249. SDO Says:

    What’s the point of “saving” Stairs for later when there might not be a later!!? These managerial decisions have been frustrating at the least.

  250. SDO Says:

    Who cares about how good Youkilis his. He still has an annoying stance.

  251. Brian of CO Says:

    and Howard won MVP in 2007.

  252. Mike C. Says:

    Thats charlie being a big fat pig that he is…I keep saying it. He is horrible. TRASHNER AND ROLLINS IN THE TOP SPOT. Dobbs could not hit my mommy with his fist. Come on Charlie lets put in lidge you big fat old man. Hairy ballls….

  253. j reed Says:

    SDO: makes him that much more plunkable

  254. PGD Says:

    yea saving him for later you are down 3 and the bases are loaded, have to use stairs in that situation

  255. Brian of CO Says:

    SDO has a point. Had Stairs gone in and hit a homer, we are up 9-8. if he hits a single, probably 8-7.

  256. The Little Guy Says:

    Touche Eli. Youk is actually older than Howard, hes 30, Ryan 29.

    I’ll take the production minus the average. Howard is playing gold glove defense this season so far, the defensive issue is moot.

  257. j reed Says:

    what a play

  258. The Little Guy Says:

    Mike C is obviously a 12 year old.

  259. Brian of CO Says:

    Sometimes I wonder if Charlie wants to lose. LOL. Way to go Escalona!

  260. Brian of CO Says:

    At the very least the Phightin Phils made a game out if it, despite hairbrained first inning, and decisions since then.

  261. Matt Says:

    jeez rollins

  262. SDO Says:

    So, I’m going to ask this question again. Who chose Sarge to be the color commentator? I can’t make out what he’s saying half the time.

    http://www.the700level.com/2007/03/sarge_matthews_.html

  263. The Little Guy Says:

    Tmac loves talking about anything but the game.

  264. SDO Says:

    “sounds like the creepy old guy from Family Guy” LOL..

  265. Brian of CO Says:

    Utley dude, you are NOT supposed to take advice from J-Roll and Victorino.

  266. j reed Says:

    Little Guy: agreed with his defense so improved and the AVG better (though some bad habits are coming back) gotta stay with him. Though don’t you think that if his defense has improved so much he could, with some direction (Milt), learn how lay off that off speed junk

  267. SDO Says:

    nice pitch!

  268. The Little Guy Says:

    Wheels- Mark Wolover really likes Kelly Dugan a lot.

    Well no sh*t wheels, he drafted him

  269. Brian of CO Says:

    Come on Escolona, calm down dude.

  270. Brian of CO Says:

    If only we could have gotten out of the first inning with no runs. We would be up 5-4 right now.

  271. Brian of CO Says:

    Well Have fun guys, Im getting off of work, hopefully this doesnt get much worse, and at least it was a game for an inning or two. 3 games I guess.

  272. SDO Says:

    Unfortunately for us, it was apparent Bastardo isn’t ready for prime time yet.

  273. Alex Says:

    Ed R.

    You do realize that it’s the reverse of what you said about Coste. He’s had a few bad months in the majors including august and september of last year and April of this year. Check the stats. “A few good months two years ago?” He was good in all of 2006 and 2007 and was white hot for half of 2008. Again, that three month hiccup wasn’t good but he’s been playing pretty well lately. Why such a short memory?

  274. Brian of CO Says:

    Sadly it looks like we will get swept, and Mets will win tomorrow since Santana is pitching tomorrow. DAMN 2 game lead. UGH

  275. SDO Says:

    Jayson!

  276. SDO Says:

    Wow same dude caught that HR.

  277. j reed Says:

    guess he’s unslumped

  278. Brian of CO Says:

    WTF Werth! Holy Crap dude. Are you serious? 1-32 coming into today (exageration a little) and 3-4. HUH? Damn Bartardo. All you had to do was get out of 1 stinkin inning.

  279. SDO Says:

    Beckett isn’t unbeatable. :-)

  280. Brian of CO Says:

    Why couldnt he do that last night. We could have at least avoided the sweep.

  281. Brian of CO Says:

    damn near in the last few starts SDO, especially when we are playing at home. :(

  282. Brian of CO Says:

    Now im leaving. I swear. Thanks for making it a game at least. Later guys.

  283. boxage Says:

    I hate the announcers on NESN.

  284. Georgie Says:

    I must be the only one still watching, but I slept through the rain delay so I’d be good for another couple of innings now.

  285. j reed Says:

    eveyone says its early….but without a solid number 2 anywhere on the horizon, I am sweating. I have little confidence in Dubee to polish a prospect…I mean look at Bastardo whose has decent mound presence and a god-given 95 mph fastball and yet for what, the 3 weeks he’s been here, his secondary pitches haven’t improved one iota….what gives

  286. Philsphan Says:

    Tough loss today… stayed to the bitter end. I think at least 3/4th of the fans at the end were Red Sox fans.

    Once Taschner gave up the 3 runs I think it was over. Tough to have to fight back from another 4-run deficit.

    I think Cholly needs to put J-roll back to the 6th spot. This pop-up or strikeout business every at-bat is absolutely killing us at the leadoff spot.

  287. PGD Says:

    yes we have a guy with a .250 OBP in the leadoff, that sounds really productive to me

  288. Greg V. Says:

    J-Roll should bat 9th!

    I was there from the first pitch until the last one and it sucked! And of course, when we catch up, who do we throw in? Jack Taschner! Next time, just say “is Greg V. in the house?” and I’ll come in and throw with my left arm (even though I’m a righty) and I’ll give you better results! Why is this guy even on the team, let alone in the game in a do or die situation? He should have been gone when Romero came back! But instead we put him in when the game is on the line, AND HE BLEW IT!

  289. Dan Says:

    Awaiting moderation? Um..okay..

  290. mikemike Says:

    Jreed that is why Bastardo should be in the minors, where he can throw his secondary pitches, this is the wfc you can’t come up and try to develop these pitches at this level. A year in the minors and he could be really good, but now he is a one pitch pitcher, its a shame they could ruin this kid.

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