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107 Responses to “Phillies Need Better Outfield Depth”

1. shag beta sigma delta Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

   My questions is what would it take to Jenkins back did he sign with anyone, and would he come back

2. ChaseUtleyMVP Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

   so what Brunt had a rough game. It’s baseball…peopl ehave rough games.
   and his low average is because he hardly plays.

   don’t forget he gunned down Kershaw at 2nd and then almost gunned down Ethier at 2nd

   they could probably use a righty with some pop.
   Jenkins is lefty, they dont need another lefty.

   Mayberry sure why not..

   but don’t rip Brunt.

3. Don M Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

   The problem isn’t a a lack-of-depth.. its a lack-of-playing time..and no the role-players not being able to stay game-sharp

   When Bruntlett was playing everyday in Spring training, he was hitting the ball.. now that he never gets to face live pitching, he can’t be expected to perform well when he gets that very rare chance

   People wanted to rip Geoff Jenkins head off last year.. eventhough he hit .246, 9 HR, 29 RBI in 293 at-bats

   Nobody is ever going to be happy with what we have on the bench.. and like I said before.. there is a reason that these guys are on the bench, not on the field.. your team is made up of 25 players, each with a role.. and Bruntlett is on this team for his defense and versatility.. not his bat.

   Mayberry wouldn’t fare any better in the same role, i’d imagine he would actually be worse, as he would grow extremely frustrated with his lack of playing time

   …
   Remember 3 weeks ago when everyone bitched about Miguel Cairo being the worst player of all-time??

   well in AAA, he’s hitting .375 in 14 games (56 ABs).. 2 HR, 9 RBI, 11 Runs scored, 2 Stolen Bases (.536 SLG%) … its funny how that happens when guys get regular at-bats

4. GWFightinsFan Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

   You’re probably right, Tim. But its not one of our more pressing needs, so they can deal with it for now, see if someone better becomes available for very cheap, and if not, let Mayberry get some more at bats down in Lehigh, then bring him up July or August to ride out the rest of the season with the big club.

5. pb Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

   Jenkins hasn’t signed with anyone because he stinks, He’s stickly a corner outfield and not even a very good one. Plus we have enough LH bats on the bench…. I’d love Sarge Jr. on this team but the Angels would have to eat 85-90% of his contract. He’s a great fielder can run and is switch hitter. He’d be a great 4th OF on this team. I thought Charlie should’ve of rested Vic in one of those Nationals games on the last home stand. It was just a case of bad timing, they would’ve sent Taschner down and kept Mayberry if Vic went down a day earlier.

   Who knows maybe there is somebody who could get DFA’ed. Dellucci did last week but he’s alot like Jenkins.. can’t run, corner OF, that bats LH…. plus he can’t hit anymore either

6. Geoff Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm

   They need a RH bench bat, but not Mayberry because he needs PT. They need a guy used to it, a VETERAN bench player whos RH and who is ok with his role.

7. Chooch's Cooches Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

   we need sheffield!

8. Justin Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

   Having Jenkins on the bench wouldn’t have changed Charlie’s mind last night if anyone watched the game last night McCarthy and Wheeler talked about the fact that the only reason Bruntlett was in instead of Stairs or Dobbs was that they wanted another right handed bat in the lineup against a lefty starter. So if they can find a decent right handed OF for depth bring him in or call up either Mayberry or Ellison (cheap OF depth type player). I’ve heard rumblings the Phils might be interested in bringing Marlon Byrd back to town if the Rangers puts him on the trade block.

9. ChaseUtleyMVP Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

   i think we all need to calm down a bit.

   Dobbs has been coming around lately.
   Stairs is Stairs.
   Brunt is a very useful player off the bench
   Coste can give Chooch a rest

   these guys have the 2nd best record in the majors, the best record on the road and a 4 game lead.

   why are we trying to find problems?

   the rotation is just about back to what we all thought it would be thanks to the young guns.

   The pen is stellar again.

   The defense is the best in the game

   and the offense scores a shit load of runs, and as we saw last night they can do it without the long ball.

   once they get going at home, these guys are gonna run away and hide by about 10 games.

   lets enjoy this winning streak (on the line tonight with Jamie)

   no NL team scares me.
   Not the Dodgers (Manny or no Manny)
   Not the Mets
   Not the Brewers
   Not the Cards

   the Phils are the class on the NL

10. Morris Buttermaker Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Eric Bruntlett is the baseball equivalent of a punt. However, he is on the team for his defense. He can play every position besides pitcher and catcher quite well. Just look at the Mets, they don’t even have 8 guys who can play one position. And with the Phillies potent line up, it’s ok for them to have one person in the lineup for his defense alone.

11. pb Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    I’d like Marlon Byrd or how about Ryan Spilborghs? The Rockies called up Carlos Gonzalez today so their OF just got really crowed. But I think these guys will cost more then what Ruben is willing to part with for someone who is just gonna be a part time player.

12. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    IF I had a choice, I would suggest Cody Ross. He has a cannon for an arm and a lot of power at the plate. I still think Mayberry should come up for someone and play. See how he does too. I still say we must wait until June 30 and assess then. I would love to see Cody in a Phillies uniform. he plays hard and isn’t afraid to get dirty.

13. ryan Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    the phils desperately need a 4th or 5th outfielder who is a right handed bat off the bench with some pop. for now, that guy has to be John Mayberry Jr. He certainly gives you a lot more than bruntlett does. Defensively as well as more pop in his bat.

14. SpinJamin Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    I think Don M hit it right on the head. Guys do need at-bats and being able to find a guy who can perform well without at-bats is a luxury and lucky find. I’m not about bringing in veterans who we hope will accept sitting on the bench most of the time and then perform when they have their limitied chance. I’d say if they you either bring in a young guy from another team who has potential or stick with the young guys in our farm system and give them a chance. I want young hungry guys willing to sacrifice for the team….not vets who think they are entitled to anything. Even if you find that veteran it might not be worth the price you pay.

15. Chuck Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    I was on Bruntlett’s case all last year because of his bat. But I’ve opened myself up to the fact that he is a VERY SOLID HARD-NOSED player who will give you 110% ALL THE TIME. He hit like crazy in Spring Training so that proves the regular at-bat theory which he’s not going to get unless there are multiple injuries. So we all need to just accept the fact that he is there primarily for his defense…..and right now with this team……that’s ok.

16. Don M Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    If the difference between us winning and losing this year is how much offense we get from our 4th Outfielder… we’re in trouble anyway

17. Chuck P Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    C’mon… no need to get our panties in a bunch. I’ll admit that I’m not a Brunt fan… he’s a poor man’s Nick Punto… but if our RH utility guy is our worst problem, I can live with that. I would rather see Mayberry with the club… why does he need to play every day? The kid is athletic and he’s a pedigree; he’s not going to lose his ability to shag balls in the outfield and he’s a guy that seems to relish those spur of the moment opportunities (he was awesome at the beginning of ST and he was pretty good during his callup… a guy that lives for that one opportunity sounds like a pinch hitter to me). Keep him around and see what he’s got in that role.

18. Greg V. Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Keeping Cairo and ditching Jenkins never made sense to me.

19. JeffS Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    While we’re complaining about minor issues like the 4th outfielder, I’d like to put in a complaint about the Paulino-Jaramillo (sp?) trade.

20. Don M Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    It was a trade that made sense… Jaramillo was not going to get any time, since Marson was AAA-ready.

    Paulino was going to push Coste for the MLB-backup, but lost..

    once that didn’t work, we traded for Taschner, who did an alright job while Romero was suspended.. smart baseball moves all-around this offseason

    Mayberry has the “talent” to be an everyday player, instead of just a utility guy.. but guys need to play everyday to reash their potential.. Mayberry was crushing guys early in spring training, when most pitchers were throwing nothing but fastballs, just to get their arms in shape… once guys started really pitching to him, he was overmatched

21. JeffS Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Don, I was joking – guess it wasn’t funny.

22. shag beta sigma delta Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    My mistake earlier, forgot about the left handed bat thing oops.
    But I am not sold on a young kid needs to play everyday, but if the FO feels that way then maybe we need to pick up a RH bench bat they can play outfield. I would like to see Mayberry up for a month spelling Werth, Vic, and dare I say it Raul. Raul played ever game last year so many he does not need a rest, but could it hurt a day off or two in a year. See what the kid has. Like I said a few days ago about young pitchers getting shelled in a call up start, If the kid bats .110 in 20 at bats and that ruins his whole career at 22 23 years old, he is not made out to play in the big leagues

23. Don M Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    I took it seriously.. because right now.. Jaramillo would look like a really good backup-catcher option to Ruiz

    not to complain about Coste. b/c he can’t be expected to rock the ball if he never gets any at-bats either..

    Jaramillo hit his first carerr MLB HR against Jo-Who Santana the other night

24. Steve Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    How about bringing up Taylor from Reading? He’s won minor league player of the month two months straight so he’s swinging a hot bat. And if he is the Phillies most likely bargaining chip in a trade for a pitcher (as the Inquirer suggested last week) than showcasing him at the big league level would be helpful too.

25. Evan Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Stairs or Dobbs make fine replacement outfielders against a RH starter, but the Phils could use someone a bit better than Bruntlett off the bench to face lefties. Its not like this is a new need though, Vic going down just emphasizes it.

26. The Little Guy Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    On Greg V. comment, how you never understood why they got rid of Jenkins for Cairo.

    It was between Stairs and Jenkins. Two LH Bats off the bench, they chose Stairs, well, i guess everyone can see why they chose him…

    While Jenkins is better defensively over Stairs, Stairs isn’t asked to play the field much often, and when he does, he will be lifted for Bruntlett late in the game for defensive purposes.

27. pb Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    I’d love to have Cody Ross also but I’d be afraid whatever mediocre prospect(s) we gave up for him would turn into superstars for the Marlins to destory us with year after year….the marlins can scout!!

    I read the Braves almost dealt for him before they got Mclouth so he is available.

28. Chuck P Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    I just don’t agree with the premise that EVERY young player needs to be playing every day for developmental purposes… for some players, yes, but not all. Some guys might be better off hanging around the big league.

    shag feels me on this… it’s not going to ruin his career if he comes up and doesn’t perform. If it does, he should be thinking about another career anyway.

29. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    JJ Putz to undergo elbow surgery, to miss 8-10 weeks.

30. Big-G Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Everyone needs to relax. Shane will be fine. Our starting pitching is coming around and our relievers are great except Chan Ho. Don’t worry we will be ok. Our leftys are batting good. Our defense is #1. If we were the Mets then I would be concerned.

31. Chris.I Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Are you guys F’ing kidding me? Why would we go after another OF in the situation were in? Were already over our heads in payroll. Right now we NEED to adress our pitching… And none the less you want JENKINS back? Thats almost as funny as wanting Eaton back. We have an outfielder who is ready and waiting to become our everyday RF…His name is John Mayberry Jr. I’m still confused to know why the hell Manuel has let Werth struggle this long, without calling Mayberry up to take his place…To be honest I was expecting to see him in the lineup since last week. I know Manuel wants to wait until the Jays series to bring him up, but right now is not the time to ”overlook” and continue to give ‘’second chances” to Werth…Bench his ass

32. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    I’m not about bringing guys up straight from AA unless its a pitcher making a spot start (referring to Steve’s comment about Taylor). I think a utility player should spend some time at AAA first.

    The whole Cairo vs. Jenkins thing is really a dumb comparison because Cairo is a right handed utility infielder which we needed and Jenkins is a left-handed extra outfielder, who we already had with Stairs. The real comparison there was Stairs vs. Jenkins and Stairs won.

    If the starting pitching continues to contribute more innings in the coming weeks as they have been doing, I think the Phillies send Taschner down (assuming he has options) and bring up Mayberry for good. That way they will have another right handed bat in the outfield and someone to be this year’s go-to-pinchrunner. If we keep seeing 7 innings consistently out of starters, then there is no need for Taschner and Park to be on the team.

33. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Chris, I hate to burst your bubble but Werth actually had a good game last night and you are basing your assumption that Mayberry would be a better option on the fact that he had a good spring training (as Bruntlett and Park did) and that he hit a nice home run and a bloop double against the Yankees. That’s it. Meanwhile, Werth was an integral part of our WFC team and has already done many positive things this year (although almost none of them have come in the last 2-3 weeks).

    We need Werth to be on this team and producing to win another Series and permanently benching him does no good. If Chollie wants to sit him for a few games then fine but you can’t just permanently take him out of the lineup.

34. Big-G Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Chris.I, Werth is one of the most underrated players in the Majors. he will come around.

35. Bill Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    bruntlett is more like the 6th outfielder behind Dobbs/Stairs and general overall utility guy being primary back-up at 2B/SS…so really this discussion is about the #6 OF. He fills the role nicely allowing the phils more flexibility in their bullpen by carrying an extra arm if they need it as he can back-up anywhere on the field except C. phils depth in the OF is solid, as you’ve got the offense in Stairs/dobbs and the D with Bruntlett. few teams have an all-star caliber guy as their #6 OF’er. Jenkins? Stairs/Dobbs are the LH guys off the bench, Jenkins would be lucky to gt 50 AB’s on the year on this team in ‘09 with Stairs here full year hence why he was waived. If any of the OF’ers go on the DL, Mayberry will get the call and start against LH’s with Stairs/dobbs against RH’s…there is zero need for a trade or to pick up a guy off waivers…and Mayberry doesn’t need to be sitting around getting one start every two weeks, he is available in AAA if victorino/Werth/Ibanez go on the DL. there is no point for this topic or discussion.

36. hamels' left hand Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Park’s spot on the team is set in stone (whether anyone likes it or not) until the Phils are able to find another reliever who can pitch multiple innings.

    And who cares about him really? We will only see him if the Phils are getting killed or are blowing the opponent out. There is no chance in hell that Park will be used in a high leverage situation unless it’s extra innings and Cholly has no choice. It’s a roll of the dice for both teams in a game like that.

    The expendable pitcher in the bullpen is clearly Tashner. I’d give him a shot to pitch multiples (he did it once when Cole couldn’t get anyone out) but with Eyre and Romero fully entrenched as the lefthanded options and Condrey, Durbin, and obviously Madson as the high leverage righties, the only way a bench spot is created is by optioning Tashner (and yes, he still has an option).

    Anyone think Majewski or Walker or some other crumb bum reliever in LHV is better suited to pitch multiples when the game is effectively out of reach in either direction?

37. The Little Guy Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    I think what Chris.I meant was give Werth acouple days off against righties and let Mayberry play acouple of those games while he was struggling. I myself was confused about that, they didn’t send him down after the Yankees series, yet they didn’t play him once at all, and let him pinch hit once? If he was sitting on the bench and Werth couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat, why didn’t Mayberry get a couple starts?

38. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    I have a hard time sitting down because I have hemroids.

39. Mike Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Its very simple. Cut Bruntlett and bring up Mayberry. So simple. Bruntlett has to be the worst hitter I have ever seen in my entire 37 year old life. He is worst then Hamels at the plate. Just aweful.

40. The Little Guy Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Reyes tore his hamstring rehabbing too, hes out till at least the all-star break.

    That’s Reyes, Putz, and Delgado who are on the DL for an extended period of time….lets lengthing our lead in the division while we can..

41. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Well Little Guy his words were “We have an outfielder who is ready and waiting to become our everyday RF…His name is John Mayberry”.

    That seems like he was looking for more of a permanent switch.

42. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    I’m glad the more mature posters have finally come to the board. Do you have other feedback or should I just start using your name and attaching childish remarks to it?

43. The Little Guy Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Miles: Oh, then i disagree, no way you can bench Werth. I mean it wouldn’t of hurt to play Mayberry when Werth was basically an automatic out during his slump, but i think he’s starting to stir a little and he’s needed to be the big right-handed bat in the lineup..

44. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    No Mike it is not as simple as cut Bruntlett and bring up Mayberry. In fact its not nearly that simple. Who plays second or short if Jimmy or Chase have to come out of a game? Dobbs?! You have to have a back up infielder on your club and they do not have to be a slugger to fill that role. His play to end the game in San Diego the other night should show that his glove is enough of a positive that he needs to be on the team for now.

    Now if you want to bring up Cairo, Ozuna, or Donald to replace him then be my guest, but Mayberry cannot replace Bruntlett on the roster.

45. Andrew R. Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Why not go out and sign Moises Alou for the league minimum. He was holding out for more money and years this off-season and never got it. He’ll give us steller offensive numbers for 40-50 games before getting hurt, but you know he’ll bat around .320 with production.

    Who knows? Maybe even as a reserve, he might last the rest of the season.

    I wrote this post half-jokingly, but doesn’t it kind of make sense?

46. Don M Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    I will never understand how when Pat Burrell hits .250 for his career … people talked about him like he was the greatest thing since the cell phone, and actually bitched that we were letting him go for Raul Ibanez

    Now Werth is hitting .250 (in early June).. and people are ready to bench him, despite his above average defense, base-running.. and the fact that he is our only realistic Power option from the Right-side

    you guys never cease to amaze me

47. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Overall I agree with Bill that we shouldn’t be killing ourselves over this. It just happened to work out that Vic couldn’t play last night and the Dodgers were throwing a lefty who’s very good against other lefties. We weren’t going to make a roster move for one game so Bruntlett had to play.

    He ended up making a good play in the outfield, and things could have been much worse. If Vic goes on the DL, Bruntlett will obviously not be the solution, however.

48. The Little Guy Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Agreed Don.

    We should all hope and pray Moyer doesn’t get ram-roded by the Dodgers O tonight and can either keep the team in the game or actually hold them down.

49. Chris.I Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    Sorry Miles but you didn’t burst my bubble one bit…No matter what any of you guys say, nothing is going to change the fact that he’s struggling. He did come through for us lastnight, and even the night before, but he still needs to sit out for a few games to clear his head and work on his swing. In the meantime…Mayberry can get a few Major leauge AB’s before we head into the Jays series.

50. The Little Guy Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Moyer is 0-2 with a 15.83 ERA vs. the Dodgers with the Phillies…

    That’s not too swell…

51. Big-G Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    I’d say start Chan Ho tonight.

52. Don M Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Chris I Mayberry

    really.. trying to bench Werth for Mayberry?? REALLY???

    He is one of the best overall players on the team.. struggling against RHP lately.. but they are facing 3 LHP in this Dodgers series..

    Especially with Vic out of the lineup.. Good thing Werth can play CF

    damn

53. Manny Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    I’ve been saying this since the beginning of the season: they should’ve never let Jenkins go….

    Why not keep him? I could care less if he’s a lefty… but at least he could be a very good replacement offensively and defensively.

    If you have a 37yr old LF, a crazy hawaian that makes wicked dives and crashes into walls, and an unproven full-regular-season RF… why would you not keep the insurance (Jenkins)? We are paying for the guy anyway.

    Keeping him wouldn’t be the difference maker for this team… but it would surely help us in spots like this one (Vic out, day-to-day) throughout the entire regular season.

54. Big-G Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

    J Werth
    PHI OF 50 187 36 48 10 1 8 28 84 25 47 10 1 .352 .449 .257.
    E Bruntlett
    PHI 3B 30 41 5 5 4 0 0 4 9 3 11 0 0 .174 .220 .122
    Werth is doing good and Brunt needs more at bats

55. Maverick Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    why would you ever want Geoff Jenkins back? the guy clearly has issues.

    First his name is Geoff.. that says enough… and if your gonna go with Geoff you have to go with Geonkins to be consistent.

    I personally would like to see us bring up Mayberry… and see how he does..

    Also… release Chan Ho Park to free up a space on the 25man

56. Chris.I Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Burrell hit .250 but he averaged 25+ Hrs, 90 RBI’s, and 90 BB per season. Why are we even talking about Burrell anyhow? Noone is against Werth (atleast I’m not). I just think no matter who you are…Utley, Howard, Ibanez…If your not producing for 2 weeks, it’s time to sit on the bench a game or 2 and let someone else get a shot…Especially when Manuel announced Mayberry would get some time, and doesn’t…What was he waiting for? Werths AVG to drop another 20 points?

57. Big-G Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Maverick, they will not release Chan Ho

58. Chris.I Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Don M,
    In all honesty it didn’t matter who played RF..Mayberry, Bruntlett, Dobbs, or Stairs..Just as long as Werth got a day off (which he finally did until Vic got hurt). I’m not going to lie, I am a premature fan of Mayberry, but I only mentioned him because Manuel said he brought up to get some time and never did…What was the purpose of calling him up for in the first place than sending him back down? Thats all I’m saying

59. JeffS Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    My joke sucked. Maverick’s is hysterical, lol.

    “First his name is Geoff.. that says enough… and if your gonna go with Geoff you have to go with Geonkins to be consistent.”

60. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Yeah Chris but we all know Charlie is old school and doesn’t like to sit guys down (except for Jimmy apparently). It’s the same reason that Francona was so reluctant to bench Big Papi or move him down in the lineup.

    I understand the frustration but I think it would take a lot more than a 2-3 week slump to bench Werth, especially since we have more or less been winning without him contributing at all.

    Also to respond to Manny about Jenkins’ status…I understand your logic but obviously he isn’t that valuable since no other team saw the versatility you are speaking of and thought it would be valuable to their team. Not to mention that they would have only had to pay the league minimum to pick him up. That’s saying something about a guy’s worth in the league.

61. mikemike Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Chris every stat burrell buries Werth , but pat is gone and I can live with Werth if Jimmy starts hitting, Mark De Rosa is going to be moved but I know he has pretty good offense numbers, but how about his defense? Cleveland needs to shed salary

62. Manny Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    You’re right Miles… I wonder..couldn’t that Braves outfield (before McLouth) use a Jenkins or something? or maybe he didn’t want to play for teams that asked about him after we released him??

    Oh well, I still think he would’ve had a .250 avg with plenty of RBIs and nice catches in the OF had he stayed with us.

63. Don M Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Werth finally got regular playing for the first time in his career last year.. and earned the right to play everyday ..

    Mark De Rosa would play where for us? … teams are going to try to get him to be an everyday-player.. we would have to give up pretty decent prospects to get him.. and that isn’t something you do to obtain bench players

64. Chuck P Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    I think that Chris I is the turd that is causing your hemmorhoids…

65. Chris.I Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    Hey Chuck…I don’t got time for internet geek talk…First of all learn how to spell, and get off my di*k

66. hamels' left hand Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    I think Chuck spelled it right…can Chris I spell douche?

67. Bruce Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    Big-G says..”Werth is one of the most underrated players in the Majors. he will come around.”

    Well.. if Werth is underrated, he is giving an underachieving performance at this time.

    By the way, to ChaseUtleyMVP who posted here. I share your optimism. I thoroughly enjoyed your response to those who need to lighten up and enjoy the team’s current success as they now own the 2nd best record (32-20) in the National league.

68. Miles Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    @Manny….I agree with you. After just playing the Nats and the Padres you would think one of those teams could use a solid defensive outfielder who can hold his own at the plate. Especially San Diego. At least Willingham, Dunn, and company can actually hit the ball to go along with their god awful defense.

69. Chris.I Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Yo wtf is everyone talking sh*t to me on here for? First of all its spelled hemorrhoids…Now you both are idiots now.

70. psujoe Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Our run production and defense have been excellent. It’s all about getting a #2 arm by the trade deadline for the post season. I’m sure Mayberry will be getting some ABs against Tb and Toronto in a few weeks.

71. ChaseUtleyMVP Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    some of you guys need to calm down.

    calling for Mayberry to take Werth’s spot..
    wanting Brunt off the team.

    CALM DOWN.

    it’s frickin baseball. guys struggle.
    When Big Brown goes through struggles do you guys want Charlie to bench him?

    Are some of you the guys who want to trade Jimmy.

    the pitching is fine now..I bet they don’t even make a trade.

    Werth is an above average fielder.
    So what he’s struggling a little bit.
    Did he no have a big insurance RBI with 2 outs last night off a righty pitcher?

    Brunt hustles and busts his ass.
    Not every player can be Chase Utley.

    and who is to say Mayberry will be better than Werth?

    Do you forget what Werth did in the World Series?
    take a look at his numbers that series..

    RELAX

    they are rolling and a series win in Flushing from running away with the division

72. ChaseUtleyMVP Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    thanks Bruce..

    I guess winning the World Series didnt effect some of the fans like it did me.

    for how bad the pitching was for a month and a half… for not having JC for 50 games. and having Jimmy hitting .230

    they are the hottest team in baseball and playing great ball.

73. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Bruntlett is fine

74. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    but another righty off the bench would be nice, but idk maybe it’ll come in the ‘#2 pitcher trade’

75. Grrrumpy Miner Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Reyes out til at least July,There is officially something wrong with out Putz,Church is out,Sheffield hobbling a bit,Wright underachieving,Back-Ups on the DL,Swine Flu,etc.Call them excuses if you want,I don’t,I call it the nature of the game.Phils look strong and aren’t gonna let up.With the Mets battling their own demons,you SHOULD go out there and widen the lead.But be careful if they get complacent,you can lose the lead very quick,and also look out for the Braves too.

76. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    yea I agree about the Braves, I think they’ll come in 2nd this year.

77. Griffin Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    If So Taguchi wasn’t so terrible last year, then the idea of Bruntlett playing anywhere other than middle infield would be laughable.

    If the Phillies want to carry another right-handed bench bat, then they shouldn’t carry 13 pitchers.

78. mikemike Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    What I read is cleveland wants to move him and wouldn’t want much in return he can play left or right or some third, my question was how is his defense.

79. Griffin Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Derosa is adequate at 3B, a little below average at 2B and can only play SS in an emergency.

80. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Ok, no trading for Cody – how about we pay the marlins some green for their new park and take Cody…

81. mikemike Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Don Jaramillo not playing for us, to me has nothing to do with trading a servicable catcher, for a guy who can’t play. Catcher are hard to find, the phillies don’t give away players , they miss how much this kid could do. You could have gotten something back like a lower level pitcher or catcher who might need more seasoning. which is perfect .

82. The Dipsy Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    I think we do need a nice little righty outfielder to fill out the squad. Eric “The Beard” Bruntlett just doesn’t cut it. Nice throw, though. There are a thousand adequate righty outfielders out there than can be gotten for a mid level prosepect. Its just tweak. No big deal. Putz out two months. Sa-weet. Remember, its not good to wish injuries on Mets players, but that doesn’t mean you have to wish against them. I think I’m gonna put together a working list of available outfielders that we can get and would fit in with the team. Be back in a couple.

    The Dipsy

83. The Little Guy Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Everyone awaits on the edge of their seats for ‘The Dipsy’ odds for serviceable corner outfielder!

84. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    oo, should be interesting

85. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    One name: Cody Ross

86. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    he’d be great

87. pb Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Todd Z. did a story about all the hip injuries in baseball this season

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090605&content_id=5156840&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

88. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Adam Dunn needs to be traded to the AL and become a DH STAT.

89. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    I am a die hard Phillies Phan, but I like Cody’s style. He just plays hard and would fit in with the style of play. If there was a way, this is what would fit perfectly. Only thing is someone would be platooning.

90. adam Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    I think the issue can be resolved temporarily if you send down taschner (if he has to clear waivers, so be it) and bring up mayberry. Give Victorino a couple days off as he recovers and maybe sit Werth after playing CF for a few games. After a week reconsider and if you have to send Mayberry down, do so. Worse case scenario you lose Traschner and bring up one of AAA’s serviceable bullpen arms.

91. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Keith, I see you are watching the Nats/mets too?

92. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Adam – no argument there at all

93. Dave Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    I disagree with the poster that says that Burrell buries Werth with every statistic. Burrell’s average is about the same, Werth will only hit about 5 fewer homers than “the Bat” and he’ll have over 30 steals. Not to mention he’s a far better defender than Burrell ever was (think about Pat trying to play center field). Sure he got walks, but they knew that he couldn’t run and that the bottom of the order stunk. Burrell probably was a better player, but not by much.

94. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    ha yes M.P.

    Nationals just tied it though

95. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    Keith, I know I am watching it. I want Dunn to make up for his misplay and hit a grand salami if they walk Zimmerman!

96. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    DARN IT, Keith. Of all the people to hit into a DP – Zimmerman – the man we cannot get out!

97. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    and a ball drops with 3 Nationals around it lol

98. Keith Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    though the Mets keep getting thrown out at 3rd so it doesn’t matter

99. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Yes Keith, and an ugly Nats situation turned around with an ugly Mets baserunning play. WOW, this is an ugly, ugly, game. I am shocked it is 1-1

100. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
     June 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

     True, I do not know who deserves to lose this game more, but I hope the Nats win. Go Manny Acta

101. Manny Says:
     June 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

     Lets go Nats! Lets go Nats!

102. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
     June 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

     I have heard Ryan Howard’s name 3 times and Shane Victorino’s name no less than 6 times from MASN Carpenter and Dibble…

     Well, Tatis got drilled…

103. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
     June 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

     Here comes Ron Villone

104. Manny Says:
     June 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm

     M.P.: We all know these MASN announcers would give their lives to see Shane Victorino in a Nats uniform.

105. M.P. AKA Phillies Phan SC #54 Says:
     June 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

     Manny – they LOVE him. They are good too, so I am not knocking the Nats guys. Dibble always has been honest. Carpenter is also a tell it like it is guy

106. Grrrumpy Miner Says:
     June 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm

     3-1 Amazins Top 10th

107. Grrrumpy Miner Says:
     June 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm

     Plus Keith….don’t be so hard on the Phillies in third,we all know the Braves will be right behind the 2009 NL East Champion Mets

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