Comments on: All Stars + Blanton = Victory

By: Griffin

Griffin — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:28:30 +0000

If the Angels include Jered Weaver (doubtful) then I don’t think we’ll be able to match that.

Drabek is not without health questions and some prospect analysts think his future may be as a closer.Taylor is tearing it up in AA, there are still questions about his power once he reaches the major leagues.Roy Halladay is proven.

I just think that getting Halladay is worth it, especially since Halladay is arguably more valuable to the Phillies than any of the other contenders.

By: NJ

NJ — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:54:39 +0000

I’d see the attitude as the Jays can have guys that can help them now in bulk or guys that have a higher upside down the road, by all means work on a deal in the middle-ground which is where I’m sure both parties are at but not both. I want to know what teams like the Angels are willing to offer because bidding against ourselves were going to loose every time.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:44:25 +0000

In the long run Marson MAY be better….but…..I think Ruiz is a very good catcher and has proven to be offensively good as well (although he has struggled as of late). I just think that if the Jays were to say no deal unless Marson was included then I think you have to part with him. But you already said that. Also, putting Marson in the deal depends on who else is in it as well. It’s that “not wanting to give up the entire farm” thing again.

By: Griffin

Griffin — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:38:50 +0000

Chuck, I think Marson will be a little better than Ruiz. The reluctance to trade Marson shouldn’t preclude getting Halladay. I’d rather put someone else in the deal as the 5th prospect. If the Jays demand Marson or no deal, then I’d part with Marson.

By: Geoff

Geoff — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:33:47 +0000

After the initial frenzy as passed I think everyone now is much calmer and realizes the folly in trading away 2 or 3 of those top 3 prospects we have. I mean, 2 of those guys will be on the Phillies in 2 years. One of them may still be blocked. You can afford to deal one (Brown) and thats about it – along with the lesser prosects like Carrasco/Donald, and the filler.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:07:44 +0000

Griffin…I hear you on the Marson thing….but I’m not sure if he’s not expendable at this point in a trade. Wouldn’t Chooch be the catcher for the next 2 years?

By: Chuck

Chuck — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:05:27 +0000

Yeah Griffin….the O’s completely got the best of that deal. Sherrill is a stud in the 9th inning and Adam Jones is going to be an incredible long-term player.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:03:12 +0000

I have to agree….the chances of landing Halladay are much less than 50%…not sure if the 20% Peter Gammons threw out there is accurate….but the point is that it has more of a chance of NOT happening than happening. Amaro has to stay in control of this and not give up the farm. I’m confident that he will take the right approach.. Also, I ve said this repeatedly…..we can’t trade Happ AND Drabek….one or the other, Drabek being my preference for going. (Happ is too proven at the major league level to be traded now.) That’s just me….maybe I’m completely wrong with my thinking.

By: NJ

NJ — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:58:55 +0000

Personally I think Riccardi’s playing a clever game knowing he doesn’t need to trade Halladay and has two more conventional windows of opportunity to get a deal done. I think he’s being floated to swell his value so that the Jays can get what they want when a deal is revisited down the road.

I can see a deal with a much as say Donald, Carrasco and Taylor plus minor prospects but I think any more an a deal fizzles until talks resume in the off-season. Just my personal opinion.

By: Griffin

Griffin — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:57:55 +0000

Yeah, I’d love to get him, but if a package of Drabek, Brown or Taylor, Donald and Marson doesn’t get it done, then it’s starting to become silly.

Also, I’d like the Phillies to keep Marson (who is hot of late) because I think he’ll be the Phillies starting catcher next season.