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		<title>By: What''''s Wrong With Hamels? &#124; Heard in the Cheap Seats</title>
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		<dc:creator>What''''s Wrong With Hamels? &#124; Heard in the Cheap Seats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pitching.  When Hamels is on the mound, the bullpen is supposed to get a bit of a break.  I am not saying that we should expect the  nearly perfect Hamels of the 2008 postseason, but we should expect more than what has been shown so far.  Look around the league at the aces of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pitching.  When Hamels is on the mound, the bullpen is supposed to get a bit of a break.  I am not saying that we should expect the  nearly perfect Hamels of the 2008 postseason, but we should expect more than what has been shown so far.  Look around the league at the aces of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NJ</title>
		<link>http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/hamels-horrendous-in-11-1-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-111826</link>
		<dc:creator>NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This goes back to the offense not finding a way to at least show positives in losses. The pitching has been very bad at times but when your an offensive ballclub and your bats can&#039;t even manage some small-ball it always feels like the clocks ticking on the pitching imploding.

I really don&#039;t think additions will improve the Phillies right now, a bench bat or starter no matter what the calibre isn&#039;t going to cover over the reason this team is loosing games, too many of them without showing any signs of being able to re-bound by showing strong fundamental baseball giving allowing too many pitchers career performances. 

The fundamentals need to be better, the preparation and game management needs to be better.

Geoff- you seem angry we haven&#039;t landed Dan Haren, maybe if you call Josh Byrnes yourself with your proposal above on behalf of Ruben YOU might be able to get the deal done... You&#039;ll probably need to throw tweety bird and curious george into the offer though, then offer Pat Overholt to JP Ricciardi for Roy Halladay and PTBNL to fill the need at the back of the Jays bullpen. As for Marquis get your facts right again before you start bleating, the Phils balked at a deal that would have brought Marquis and Spillborghs but would have meant sending JA Happ and minor leaguers to Colorado, do you really think that would have been a good deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This goes back to the offense not finding a way to at least show positives in losses. The pitching has been very bad at times but when your an offensive ballclub and your bats can&#8217;t even manage some small-ball it always feels like the clocks ticking on the pitching imploding.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think additions will improve the Phillies right now, a bench bat or starter no matter what the calibre isn&#8217;t going to cover over the reason this team is loosing games, too many of them without showing any signs of being able to re-bound by showing strong fundamental baseball giving allowing too many pitchers career performances. </p>
<p>The fundamentals need to be better, the preparation and game management needs to be better.</p>
<p>Geoff- you seem angry we haven&#8217;t landed Dan Haren, maybe if you call Josh Byrnes yourself with your proposal above on behalf of Ruben YOU might be able to get the deal done&#8230; You&#8217;ll probably need to throw tweety bird and curious george into the offer though, then offer Pat Overholt to JP Ricciardi for Roy Halladay and PTBNL to fill the need at the back of the Jays bullpen. As for Marquis get your facts right again before you start bleating, the Phils balked at a deal that would have brought Marquis and Spillborghs but would have meant sending JA Happ and minor leaguers to Colorado, do you really think that would have been a good deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This team did not overachieve last year, in my opinion... several players fell short of their career numbers but there was consistency and that&#039;s the biggest difference between 2008 and 2009.  Aside from some issues with our back-end starters, we never had to deal with juggling the rotation or the bullpen, for that matter.  I mean, you knew that Hamels and Moyer were there and healthy... you knew that Myers was going to give it a go and we managed the back-end with a mixture of Blanton/Happ/Kendrick.  This year, the injury bug has bit us at almost every position... 2b, 3b, SS (mental injury), LF, SP, RP, CL... it&#039;s tough to fight through that stuff without feeling sorry for yourself.  You can sit here and feel desperate but we&#039;re still in first, guys.  And even if we funk until the AS break, we&#039;re going to be in it down the stretch and if there&#039;s one thing that I feel confident about it&#039;s that this team will fight until the end.  There is no quit in this team... 

On a sour note... I have tickets to tomorrow&#039;s game.  Rodrigo Lopez?  Are you f*ing kidding me?  Where&#039;s Carrasco?  I would take Kendrick, or Carpenter over Lopez.

Yesterday, Ibanez took batting practice with Reading and Michael Taylor hit his 15th HR of the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This team did not overachieve last year, in my opinion&#8230; several players fell short of their career numbers but there was consistency and that&#8217;s the biggest difference between 2008 and 2009.  Aside from some issues with our back-end starters, we never had to deal with juggling the rotation or the bullpen, for that matter.  I mean, you knew that Hamels and Moyer were there and healthy&#8230; you knew that Myers was going to give it a go and we managed the back-end with a mixture of Blanton/Happ/Kendrick.  This year, the injury bug has bit us at almost every position&#8230; 2b, 3b, SS (mental injury), LF, SP, RP, CL&#8230; it&#8217;s tough to fight through that stuff without feeling sorry for yourself.  You can sit here and feel desperate but we&#8217;re still in first, guys.  And even if we funk until the AS break, we&#8217;re going to be in it down the stretch and if there&#8217;s one thing that I feel confident about it&#8217;s that this team will fight until the end.  There is no quit in this team&#8230; </p>
<p>On a sour note&#8230; I have tickets to tomorrow&#8217;s game.  Rodrigo Lopez?  Are you f*ing kidding me?  Where&#8217;s Carrasco?  I would take Kendrick, or Carpenter over Lopez.</p>
<p>Yesterday, Ibanez took batting practice with Reading and Michael Taylor hit his 15th HR of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: keng</title>
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		<dc:creator>keng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, i met my wife at a party 18 years ago i could have just as easily not gone to - i asked her to marry me 1 hour later - i now have 4 great kids and am very happily married - lifes about chance, fortuity, windows of opportunity, capitalizing etc - the phils just barely got in last year - if 1 walk off home run by howard went 5 more feet to the right and landed foul - we would have won nothing! - and of course there would have been no playoffs and world series for these guys where they really caught lightening in a bottle like we all know they are capable of at times - and we all would have been quite disappointed about another season where we came up empty handed - we would have moaned and groaned and complained incessantly - and instead of everyone being tied up over the winter with longish contracts the team would have probably been torn apart - atleast to an extent - and instead of everyone being in love with this team and thinking repeat and about the big red machine etc - we would have thought these guys were dogs - almost every one of them!! - and thats just if the result of 1 out of 60,000 pitches on 1 team had landed differently by 5 feet!!!! - man the difference between great and bad in baseball as in life can be infintesimal!!!! - so is this a great team or a bad team? - or a pretty good mix of a team that had a great year because of lots of little things that broke right for them - but this year things are just not breaking as right!? - i think a little perspective is probably in order both about last year and about this year - and for that matter about baseball and about life - and for that matter about the extent to which we romanticize and tend to turn great things into all around greater things and bad things into all around worse things!! - enjoy ur day!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, i met my wife at a party 18 years ago i could have just as easily not gone to &#8211; i asked her to marry me 1 hour later &#8211; i now have 4 great kids and am very happily married &#8211; lifes about chance, fortuity, windows of opportunity, capitalizing etc &#8211; the phils just barely got in last year &#8211; if 1 walk off home run by howard went 5 more feet to the right and landed foul &#8211; we would have won nothing! &#8211; and of course there would have been no playoffs and world series for these guys where they really caught lightening in a bottle like we all know they are capable of at times &#8211; and we all would have been quite disappointed about another season where we came up empty handed &#8211; we would have moaned and groaned and complained incessantly &#8211; and instead of everyone being tied up over the winter with longish contracts the team would have probably been torn apart &#8211; atleast to an extent &#8211; and instead of everyone being in love with this team and thinking repeat and about the big red machine etc &#8211; we would have thought these guys were dogs &#8211; almost every one of them!! &#8211; and thats just if the result of 1 out of 60,000 pitches on 1 team had landed differently by 5 feet!!!! &#8211; man the difference between great and bad in baseball as in life can be infintesimal!!!! &#8211; so is this a great team or a bad team? &#8211; or a pretty good mix of a team that had a great year because of lots of little things that broke right for them &#8211; but this year things are just not breaking as right!? &#8211; i think a little perspective is probably in order both about last year and about this year &#8211; and for that matter about baseball and about life &#8211; and for that matter about the extent to which we romanticize and tend to turn great things into all around greater things and bad things into all around worse things!! &#8211; enjoy ur day!!</p>
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		<title>By: phanman</title>
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		<dc:creator>phanman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe tonite the HAPPSTER will come thru for da phillies...but the offense is not gonna show up so HAPPSTER must do it on his own....J Ro doesn&#039;t even deserve a nick name .....Vic come on wheres the spirit .....and Howard closing in on 100 K&#039;s before the break ...figures....Hamels should go on the dl list for 2 weeks give him a box of tissues to go let him go cry to Mama poor thing...oh and cut off all the &quot;pitchers&quot; with the little &quot;cud&quot; under the chin ya don&#039;t look menacing for one minutes Brad oh Brad...can anyone guess who didn&#039;t wear their philly colors during the Fluke Parade of 2008 ....hint 1 guy is no longer on the team.....at least the Tmac and Wheelers are still coming up with some bonified excuses for us as to why we keep losing ....would anyone be surprised if Charlie was fired after the All- Star game......the fluke are running down the shore ....lets all go fishing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe tonite the HAPPSTER will come thru for da phillies&#8230;but the offense is not gonna show up so HAPPSTER must do it on his own&#8230;.J Ro doesn&#8217;t even deserve a nick name &#8230;..Vic come on wheres the spirit &#8230;..and Howard closing in on 100 K&#8217;s before the break &#8230;figures&#8230;.Hamels should go on the dl list for 2 weeks give him a box of tissues to go let him go cry to Mama poor thing&#8230;oh and cut off all the &#8220;pitchers&#8221; with the little &#8220;cud&#8221; under the chin ya don&#8217;t look menacing for one minutes Brad oh Brad&#8230;can anyone guess who didn&#8217;t wear their philly colors during the Fluke Parade of 2008 &#8230;.hint 1 guy is no longer on the team&#8230;..at least the Tmac and Wheelers are still coming up with some bonified excuses for us as to why we keep losing &#8230;.would anyone be surprised if Charlie was fired after the All- Star game&#8230;&#8230;the fluke are running down the shore &#8230;.lets all go fishing!</p>
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		<title>By: DHall</title>
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		<dc:creator>DHall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully this team will fall out of first place tonight.  They don&#039;t deserve to be there.  They&#039;ve played like crap for most of season so far.  I&#039;m starting to wonder...did they overperform last year?  Maybe this team is not as good as we thought.  After all, they didn&#039;t look very good last year until the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully this team will fall out of first place tonight.  They don&#8217;t deserve to be there.  They&#8217;ve played like crap for most of season so far.  I&#8217;m starting to wonder&#8230;did they overperform last year?  Maybe this team is not as good as we thought.  After all, they didn&#8217;t look very good last year until the end.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh---what the hell.  The phillies are just getting the hell kicked out of them right now, and looking depressed about it.  Then fans are getting pissed off, and the Phils need to start showing emotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh&#8212;what the hell.  The phillies are just getting the hell kicked out of them right now, and looking depressed about it.  Then fans are getting pissed off, and the Phils need to start showing emotion.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Braves Pummel Phillies on Jurrjens&#8217; 7 Inning 1 Hitter &#124; Blogging-Baseball.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Braves Pummel Phillies on Jurrjens&#8217; 7 Inning 1 Hitter &#124; Blogging-Baseball.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bummer can be viewed by clicking here.  But for the rest of us who want quick and speedy closure, Phillies Nation&#8217;s Amanda Orr offers a quick and concise recap: Jair Jurrjens, the Braves starting pitcher, started with a soft hit to right field.  Gregor Blanco [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bummer can be viewed by clicking here.  But for the rest of us who want quick and speedy closure, Phillies Nation&#8217;s Amanda Orr offers a quick and concise recap: Jair Jurrjens, the Braves starting pitcher, started with a soft hit to right field.  Gregor Blanco [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 4daysrest.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>4daysrest.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple thoughts:

-Cole Hamels is clearly not the same pitcher we saw at any point last year.  He&#039;s shown one flash of brilliance this year, against the Dodgers, and that was it.  He doesn&#039;t have that killer instinct and as soon as something goes wrong, the game gets out of hand for him.

-Kyle Drabek is a stud.  He came on in relief (?) tonight after Scott Eyre started the game and got rocked (including a homer by the first batter he faced).  Drabek gave up 3 runs over 6.1 innings, all of which were in his first inning.  Then he scattered two hits over the next 5 innings.  Oh, and he also went 3-for-3 at the plate while driving in a run.

-These Phillies hitters are pathetic because they play tag-along like a bunch of 6 year olds.  If the first few guys start the game hot and are hitting the ball, everybody else hits.  If the first few guys get themselves out and can&#039;t make anything happen, that&#039;s the story for the rest of the game.  It&#039;s so frustrating to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple thoughts:</p>
<p>-Cole Hamels is clearly not the same pitcher we saw at any point last year.  He&#8217;s shown one flash of brilliance this year, against the Dodgers, and that was it.  He doesn&#8217;t have that killer instinct and as soon as something goes wrong, the game gets out of hand for him.</p>
<p>-Kyle Drabek is a stud.  He came on in relief (?) tonight after Scott Eyre started the game and got rocked (including a homer by the first batter he faced).  Drabek gave up 3 runs over 6.1 innings, all of which were in his first inning.  Then he scattered two hits over the next 5 innings.  Oh, and he also went 3-for-3 at the plate while driving in a run.</p>
<p>-These Phillies hitters are pathetic because they play tag-along like a bunch of 6 year olds.  If the first few guys start the game hot and are hitting the ball, everybody else hits.  If the first few guys get themselves out and can&#8217;t make anything happen, that&#8217;s the story for the rest of the game.  It&#8217;s so frustrating to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: M.P. aka A.J. #54</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.P. aka A.J. #54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mets fan - yes, that would be the only joy you&#039;ll get from the Mets this year. Nice of you to show only after HOW MANY losses in a row and HOW MANY runs could you score? Such wusses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mets fan &#8211; yes, that would be the only joy you&#8217;ll get from the Mets this year. Nice of you to show only after HOW MANY losses in a row and HOW MANY runs could you score? Such wusses.</p>
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