Comments on: Alfonso Soriano: The One That (Luckily) Got Away http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/ More than a blog Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:44:56 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: SuperFan http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119498 SuperFan Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:40:54 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119498 check out SuperLogoz.com!!! We now offer mugs!!! There is nothing better than reading Phillies Nation while drinking a cup of coffee from your own SuperMug!!! as always – FREE SHIPPING check out SuperLogoz.com!!!

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]]> By: Joel V http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119396 Joel V Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:43:57 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119396 I don't think anyone is taking the Citizens Bank Park factor and the strength of this lineup into account. It's no secret that both factored into Ibanez's career season this year along with Aaron Rowand's career yr before he left! Taking both of those players into account, you would then have to believe that if Soriano played here, you can add 5-10 hrs ,10-20 rbis, and at least a few points to his batting avg. to his final totals the last couple of years. And that's at a minimum! I don’t think anyone is taking the Citizens Bank Park factor and the strength of this lineup into account. It’s no secret that both factored into Ibanez’s career season this year along with Aaron Rowand’s career yr before he left! Taking both of those players into account, you would then have to believe that if Soriano played here, you can add 5-10 hrs ,10-20 rbis, and at least a few points to his batting avg. to his final totals the last couple of years. And that’s at a minimum!

]]> By: Aaron http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119383 Aaron Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:56:09 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119383 lol just saying when it comes down to it he signed a big deal, if he can come on the field and be productive at all than he is going to be out there and not ride the bench and be a complete waste of money. the weight of that contracts weighs on him a bit than he likes i bet. if one of these coming years he comes into the season healthy and remains that way and if the cubs could do the impossible like winning the world series i bet you wouldnt be so down on him. lol just saying when it comes down to it he signed a big deal, if he can come on the field and be productive at all than he is going to be out there and not ride the bench and be a complete waste of money. the weight of that contracts weighs on him a bit than he likes i bet. if one of these coming years he comes into the season healthy and remains that way and if the cubs could do the impossible like winning the world series i bet you wouldnt be so down on him.

]]> By: NJ http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119376 NJ Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:32:09 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119376 Problem as teams like the Yanks know better than anyone is your paying for what a guys done and some guys just aren't going to deliver the numbers they have previously, Soriano being a prime example. Problem as teams like the Yanks know better than anyone is your paying for what a guys done and some guys just aren’t going to deliver the numbers they have previously, Soriano being a prime example.

]]> By: Whack8888 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119375 Whack8888 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:24:25 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119375 Yeah the mega deals are so risky. Unless the guy performs exactly at or above the level you expect him to, and are paying him to, your franchise can just be in the crapper for a long long time. Even organizations like San Fran and the Cubs who have a decent amount of money to throw around can get messed up by it. As the cubs look for their long elusive World Series win, they will have to wonder if this Soriano deal is the reason they cant get it done. Also what is with guys in their late 20s etc. getting tons of money and tons of years for a contract? I would rather the Phillies paid a decent price for a guy in his late 20s or so, but cut down on the years. For instance, 8 million a year is a bit much for Victorino, but what if we only got him for 3 years? That way, if his production goes in the crapper at some point, it is not one of these franchise killing deals. Though I suppose 5 years at 5 million is better -- haha, I dont know what I am talking about Yeah the mega deals are so risky. Unless the guy performs exactly at or above the level you expect him to, and are paying him to, your franchise can just be in the crapper for a long long time. Even organizations like San Fran and the Cubs who have a decent amount of money to throw around can get messed up by it. As the cubs look for their long elusive World Series win, they will have to wonder if this Soriano deal is the reason they cant get it done.

Also what is with guys in their late 20s etc. getting tons of money and tons of years for a contract? I would rather the Phillies paid a decent price for a guy in his late 20s or so, but cut down on the years. For instance, 8 million a year is a bit much for Victorino, but what if we only got him for 3 years? That way, if his production goes in the crapper at some point, it is not one of these franchise killing deals. Though I suppose 5 years at 5 million is better — haha, I dont know what I am talking about

]]> By: Joel V http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119345 Joel V Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:54:00 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119345 One of the greatest NON-MOVES the Phils ever made???? .299 33 hrs in 2007 .280 29 hrs in 2008 You mean to tell me you wouldn't take that??? LOL! One of the greatest NON-MOVES the Phils ever made????

.299 33 hrs in 2007
.280 29 hrs in 2008

You mean to tell me you wouldn’t take that???
LOL!

]]> By: Kennedy http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119037 Kennedy Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:15:21 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119037 If I was training Baseball G.M.s, I would give them one golden rule to live by. Don't sign anyone who doesn't play amazing defense to a $90,000,000.00 or above contract (obviously pitchers are an exception). Soriano was so overpriced, a marginal outfielder, mid-level power, good speed but going on 31. A backloaded deal for an aging player who's game depended largely on speed, it must have been obvious they weren't going to be getting a high quality of play for the last few years. Corner outfielders who can hit 25 - 30 HRs aren't exactly a dime a dozen, but they aren't exactly rare. I still don't know how Adam Dunn has avoided signing a moronic mega-deal, could it be that G.M.s finally learned (and for the Giants not to sign him last winter was nearly criminal, 3yrs 30 Million would have bought them an offense). Adam Dunn=Poor man's Manny Ramirez. If I was training Baseball G.M.s, I would give them one golden rule to live by. Don’t sign anyone who doesn’t play amazing defense to a $90,000,000.00 or above contract (obviously pitchers are an exception). Soriano was so overpriced, a marginal outfielder, mid-level power, good speed but going on 31. A backloaded deal for an aging player who’s game depended largely on speed, it must have been obvious they weren’t going to be getting a high quality of play for the last few years. Corner outfielders who can hit 25 – 30 HRs aren’t exactly a dime a dozen, but they aren’t exactly rare. I still don’t know how Adam Dunn has avoided signing a moronic mega-deal, could it be that G.M.s finally learned (and for the Giants not to sign him last winter was nearly criminal, 3yrs 30 Million would have bought them an offense). Adam Dunn=Poor man’s Manny Ramirez.

]]> By: Pat Gallen http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119026 Pat Gallen Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:52:34 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119026 Ed 2: Mr. Baseball is an underrated baseball movie, good stuff. Amanda: I believe they may have kicked the tires on Bradley, but i'm not sure it was anything more. Everything the Phils touch lately has turned to gold. Ed 2: Mr. Baseball is an underrated baseball movie, good stuff.

Amanda: I believe they may have kicked the tires on Bradley, but i’m not sure it was anything more. Everything the Phils touch lately has turned to gold.

]]> By: Amanda Orr http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119017 Amanda Orr Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:36:00 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119017 Another awesome article, Pat. I almost forgot about Soriano. Worked out for the Phillies. Also weren't the Phillies looking at Milton Bradly last year before they got Raul? Another good non-move. Another awesome article, Pat. I almost forgot about Soriano. Worked out for the Phillies.

Also weren’t the Phillies looking at Milton Bradly last year before they got Raul? Another good non-move.

]]> By: Ed 2 http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2009/07/remembering-alfonso-soriano/comment-page-1/#comment-119004 Ed 2 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:15:47 +0000 http://www.philliesnation.com/?p=6602#comment-119004 I thought only Charlie Manual and Tom Selleck went to Japan to play baseball? I thought only Charlie Manual and Tom Selleck went to Japan to play baseball?

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