Gameday: Mets (62-78) at Phillies (79-59)

Posted by Jason Bintliff, Fri, September 11, 2009 06:04 PM

New York Mets (62-78) at Philadelphia Phillies (79-59)

Cole Hamels(8-9, 4.32 ERA) vs. Nelson Figueroa(2-4, 4.74 ERA)

Time: 7:05 at Citizens Bank Park

Weather: 66 Degrees, Rain

TV: MyPHL 17

“From the cradle of liberty, Philadelphia Pennsylvania. Do we have closure? No. No, the heinous acts of terrorism last Tuesday will be with us as long as we shall live.”  -Harry Kalas

It was eight years ago today that the meaning of life was put into perspective for people all across America. As Major League Baseball decided to suspend its games in wake of the terror attacks against our great country, we realized that baseball is just that, a game.

When baseball resumed that weekend, it had a whole new meaning and importance than the week before. Baseball crossed over from a just a game, to a distraction from the rigors of what can sometimes be a brutal life. Baseball became the beginning of a healing process that still takes place eight years later. It became our collective defiance as a country. It was America’s proclamation that, “You may have knocked us down, but we as a people will ALWAYS rise again.”

Coming off a heartbreaking loss against the Nationals last night, the Phillies look to get back on track against the New York Mets. The Phillies bats finally woke up and showed signs of legitimate life for the first time in a week, but it was too little too late for Phils as their bid for a ninth inning comeback was dashed.

With the Marlins starting to breath down the Phillies necks, the Phillies need a productive weekend against the Mets. But don’t expect the Mets to just lay down and die.

Sure, they have been riddled with injuries to half of their starting line-up and have a AAA squad taking the field, but remember, these minor leaguers are playing for a paycheck in 2010 and beating the Phillies and making their postseason lives miserable, would be a nice notch on their belt.

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Go Phillies!

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237 Responses to “Gameday: Mets (62-78) at Phillies (79-59)”

  1. therover Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Any news? Game on, game postponed? Crappy night.

  2. Bill Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Harry’s quote says it all. Today is a sad day, but it also a day that we can be thankful to be an American.

    Now let’s sweep the Mets!

    http://www.mlbcomplete.com

  3. Phan in TN Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    from your keyboard to God’s ears, Bill

    amen

  4. Sean Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Go Cole!!! Shut em down!

  5. Grrrumpy Miner Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Well…here we go again.I am an American first,Mets fan second.However I know I am in the minority here in my hope,but I would like to think I earned a right to voice my opinion.I do hope for the Mets to finish strong for the next 3 weeks beginning tonight,but if it comes at the expense of the Phillies so be it.Remember Jason said it best,Its just a game.I just hope that IF the Mets show up and play ball,Jackasses like Eli stay clear from this room because the Mets and most of our fans have nothing to be proud of this season.

  6. Brian Michael Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    I was at that first game back after 9/11, the Phillies played the Braves and it was the first game in all of baseball. It was pretty somber and emotional. I think the Phillies won though.

  7. Jason Bintliff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

    Brian, me too. I went to all three. I will never forget all of the flags. Grown men were crying(including myself) I had tickets for the games because I was going into the army the following week, so those were important games for me. Rolens curtain call after his second bomb was amazing.

  8. Jason Bintliff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Remember that was the day the God Bless America tradition started during the 7th inning stretch.

  9. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Brian I was also there, 9/17/09. It was vs the Braves and they won 5-2. Robert Person got the W. Mesa the Save and Rolen had 2 homers. I think Chipper hit one out too.

    You are absolutely right, it was very sober, pretty sad actually.

    It looks like it is really pouring out there, I wonder if they should have even started the game.

    Are they just trying to get it in because it is towards the end of the year and make up days are hard to come by?

  10. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    That should read 9/17/01…my mistake.

  11. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Ed R. – well the radar says the rain should be passing soon…besides we already have a few double headers don’t we

  12. Rick the Marlins fan Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    My Marlins keep going boom in the first….4 after tonight. love it..

  13. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    nice curve change combo cole

  14. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    yeah they have what 2 or 3 double headers coming up? It would be nice to get on a hot streak and sweep some of them.

  15. Grrrumpy Miner Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    I do remember Sept. 21,2001 Braves/Mets at Shea.That game took most New Yorkers back to reality again.With Marc Anthony doing the Star Spangled Banner,Diana Ross singing God Bless America and Liza Minelli singing New York,New York Complete with a chorous line.But the moment I will remember is Mike Piazza’s 2 run homer in the bottom of the 8th where the Mets won 3-2.That game brought back the spark and helped me move forward with my life.

  16. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    This team is going to need to string together some hits if they want to win this game. Home runs will not come easily I think. But what do I know, I was a pitcher, I couldn’t hit for crap. It was probably good that I was a pitcher otherwise I would have been useless.

  17. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    You know miner, that game that you just described was probably one of the few times I ever actively routed for a NY team.

  18. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Ed r. – sweep would be nice, but another not another double header. This is why I want them to play tonight even though normally i think this kinda rain degrades the game and is unsafe for pitchers esp. when they plant their glove side foot

  19. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    that ’s “not another”

  20. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    I agree with you completely J-Reed. I used to hate having to pitch in weather like this. It amazes me the control some pitchers can still have over their pitches with weather being like this.

    Utley just swung at ball 4.

  21. Baseballfan Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    That game was so emotional. Chipper jones even said that he wanted the Mets to win that game. Or at least, that was the best he ever felt after a loss. that was the first baseball game period after 9/11. Emotions were wild.

  22. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    I hope J-Roll is taking notes at 2nd, this is how you work a count.

  23. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Damn it Utley. You couldn’t even give us a single. I wasn’t asking for much, just a single.

  24. Rick the Marlins fan Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    you guys cant score…lol

  25. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Grumpy – is any pitcher from the opening day roster still in the mets starting rotation?

  26. teejvee Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    It’s groundhog day for poor Cholly.

    Another scrub pitcher, who can’t get anybody else in the league out, shutting down his overrated offense.
    Utley chokes again with Risp.

  27. Mostone Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Well, at least they got one!

  28. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    works like a charm Teejvee comes on and they drive in a run

  29. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    way to go Pedro!!! Big knock baby big knock!!

  30. Grrrumpy Miner Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    JReed…….Mike Pelfrey was on the Opening Day roster….but sad to say,he is now the “Ace” by committee.Now I take nothing away from Larry Jones,but as a competitor and to say that,thats an excuse.You want to win regardless of any situation.However I almost wish John Rocker was a Brave that day for him to see how New Yorkers truly are and how we get together under the circumstance.

  31. Rick the Marlins fan Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    I hate the phillies but teejvee you are an idiot. the phillies with an overrated offense. 4 guys with 30 plus homers. they have the BEST offense in the NL. They are going through a rough period. I might hate the Phillies but I fear that offense. Your crazy dude.

  32. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Wow I didn’t know Marlins fans hated anyone.

    And miner…f*ck John Rocker that ignorant red neck piece of crap.

  33. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    I didn’t know Marlins fans existed, let alone hated people.

  34. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Cole looks like his stuff is very sharp tonight!

  35. Baseballfan Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    Yea Rocker is ridiculous. Why do you care if he was at that game to see how New Yorkers were? Does it matter what his opinion is? not at all. He sucks so bad and deserves to be in the bottom of society for the rest of his life. That may be harsh ,but he was a terrible person.

  36. Baseballfan Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Hamels has some stuff right now.

  37. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Does Hamels really have 75 pitches already? He just struggles putting hitters away. We should have 10 runs against this team already.

  38. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Man i am in Doylestown and its cleared up…i thought this rain would have ended by now

  39. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    just one more inning and it’s a game

  40. teejvee Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    if you think the offense isn’t overrated,you haven’t been watching the last 5 series.

    It’s been a run-free chokathon.Tonight.TWO runs against Nelson friggin Figueroa.Embarassing.

  41. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Utley’s been killing us. Notice that as he and Rollins go, so goes the offense. And Howard, unfortunately, can’t carry us indefinitely.

  42. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    games like this where the Phillies leave runners on base and allow the other team to hang around never seems to end well anymore. Especially with our pen being as mashed up as it is.

  43. teejvee Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    and looks like howard’s back in the tank,Mike.

    But Ibanez is out of it.

  44. Terri Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    I am starting to think Chase is overrated. He is so frustrating lately.

  45. Grrrumpy Miner Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    I know John Rocker is an a$$hole,however he needed to see what New Yorkers truly are.I am working the 7 line tonite and he couldn’t have been more wrong with his comments.This line is very diverse and most are good people here.John Rocker even humbled himself and played for a New York team (If you consider the Long Island Ducks a hometown team) and was released late in the season.

  46. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    I guess he made up for those two errors last night with that catch! Beautiful!

  47. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    @Terri

    WTF?! Utley overrated. LMAO.

  48. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Welcome back Raul. We missed you. Now never leave us again. Thank you.

  49. teejvee Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Get a chair Raul. You’re in scoring position.

    You won’t move.

    CHOKE time.

  50. teejvee Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    …as predicted

  51. Phan in TN Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    very glad that our only Mets fan is mister G Miner

    go Phillies!

  52. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Gotta knock some home obviously. 10 LOB through 5. Cole is looking really good right now and Nelson FREAKING Figeroa can only hold this offense for so long.

  53. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    TV’s dead. They warming anyone?

  54. teejvee Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    This game is one Cole meatball away from being tied, And we all know Cole’s penchant for serving meatballls.

  55. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    thanks Teejvee, once again, never fails.

    Way to go Cole. Hopefully that was your last inning.

  56. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Especially over 100 pitches. Please answer me someone – is anyone warming??

  57. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    @ Mike

    Didnt see anyone warming.

    Cole needs to squezze one more inning out, it’s not a warm night. Plus with MoyerKendrick/Pedro going the pen is going to get some work this weekend.

  58. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Time to do a rain dance like in “Man of the House.” Let God Himself pick up His first save of the season.

  59. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Who is this homo a fan of. Teejvee. He has to be a mets fan. Geek sitting has his computer bored because he has nobody in his life. maybe his mom. thats it

  60. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Anyone know how many assists Frenchy has?

  61. Dave Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Oh boy, another RISP…

    The suspense is killing me.

  62. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    mike d. – there hasn’t be s shot over to the bull pen and no on’e mentioned anything sorry.

  63. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    on’e = one’s

  64. Dave Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    I could really go for a home run from the Big Piece right about now.

  65. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Ill take an RBI in any form

  66. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    yeah, I’ve gotta a feeling

  67. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    so much for that feeling….maybe we could aks the Padres to lend us david eckstein to teach these mopes how to hit for contact

  68. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    j-reed that feeling must have been gas.

    And Frenchy has 11 assists.

  69. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    It really is amazing we cant score a runner from third. This is a AAA team. I knew once Vic stopped at third it was over. Thats why werth needs to hit 5th. mix it up/

  70. Stuart Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Mark my words, we will get swept first round. If we strand 12 runners on the bases tonight against the mutts, we cant score against anyone else. not even a chance. you cant win if you cant score.

  71. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Well you can win if your team has 2 runs and the other team has 0

  72. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    4-2 Nats.

  73. teejvee Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Can you say CHOKE?

    Atta boy Howie.

  74. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Pretty sure Charlie will look like a fool for leaving Cole in to start the 7th.

  75. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    I hate leaving 12 runners though 6, it sucks. But they are freaking winning the game 2-0.

    Hell they were something like 5 for 42 with RISP at one point in the World Series.

    Playoff games are not going to be high scoring with the quality of pitching. You win with pitching and you hit in certain spots.

    Seriously people need to relax!

  76. Stuart Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    bob:
    but when you play teams that are not the mutts, and are in the playoffs, like the cardinals or the dodgers. we are gonna get smoked.

  77. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    and the wheels on the bus are coming off….

  78. Terri Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Why did they bring Cole back out? This is what happen when you don’t score with RISP!

  79. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    What part of our friggin bullpen is gonna be taxed over the next 3 days dont people get?? We need to attempt to get Cole through 7 innings. He’s been good and earned the chance to keep going.

    Charlie is correct in sticking with Hamels.

  80. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Damn it, Ed, damn you and you’re being correct. TV not working – please tell me someone is warming. Didn’t Cole lose his last start against Florida (beginning of August) this way?

  81. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Ed R. – yep. they are committing so many cardinal sins at the plate they need to go to confession. Thanks for the stat.

  82. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Yeah Mike, it was rather similar.

    Anytime j-reed.

    2-1…ehhhhh

  83. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    @ Stu

    I get that but this team can win games 2-1 or 3-2. They can pitch too. Even with a night (like the last 3 wks) that they cant hit w/ RISP.

    We will repeat or fall with our pitching first, offense second.

  84. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Come on Park. Sit this guy down and lets get out of this inning with a lead.

  85. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    This is what happens when you let a joke of a team hang around. We had so many chances to score.

  86. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    5-2 Nats. We need to knock them back a peg.

  87. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Ok Chan Ho, lets go!

  88. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Last year, this isn’t an issue. Romero pitches the 7th, Madson the 8th, Lidge the 9th. This year, we’ve a short bullpen – that is, we’re short on Guys Charlie Trusts to Hold and Save a Game. Romero and Condrey both being gone has secretly crippled us in late innings.

  89. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    well done Chan Ho. Well done.

  90. joedad Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Chan Hoooooo chan ho chan ho chan ho. Chan Hoooooo. Chan Hooooo

  91. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    bob – i agree about the bullpen….however one of the reasons we got away with our RISP struggles last year is lidge and the pen could maintain the lead on these types of nights. We didn’t lose one game where we has the lead after 7 innings (i think it was 7 innings).

  92. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    Ah, but bob, pitching includes our bullpen. Our bullpen’s deficiencies have highlighted our struggles with RISP. Last year, we grumbled about it, but it wasn’t a huge concern because our pitching was solid, innings one through nine. A one run lead this year causes most of us to scramble for the emergency beer kit in the later innings.

  93. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    True J Reed. But the pen is perfectly capable of doing that again. The pieces are there. Since they are gonna use Lidge in certain spots and use Madson/Myers in other situations this should help.

    Just look at the starting pitching we have this season. Head and shoulders above last year’s. So I think it balances out. And as frustrating as the RISP woes are, we all know that this offense is too good to be down all the time. They will get theirs.

  94. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    @ Mike,

    Still not as bad as pre-2007 though.

  95. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    well pleasantly surprised with the day. Not only are the Phillies winning for now (I sure hope that stays) but the Nats are beating the Fish (I hope that stays as well.)

  96. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Where the hell was that bounce on the wild pitch last night?

  97. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Mike D. – how many of us thought we’d be saying how much we miss Clay Condrey…early to day I thinking back to that Yankee game is saved.

    I don’t like the idea of pitching Myers in these slolppy conditions…One slip and that hip….bad idea

  98. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    I don’t know about Romero, Mike. He didn’t do much while he was here, but Condrey being out definitely has had its affect on the pen.

  99. DC Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Have you noticed that there are no Mets fans at this game. They usually swarm to Citizens Bank Park to annoy us. This just proves that they are all bandwagons. They are no where to be found. Those Mutts fans….its about time they stayed in stinkin NY

  100. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Well done Pedro. Very quality AB right there!

  101. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Chooch will come though. I am sure of it.

  102. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    @DC

    They know their team is awful, but I think the weather has something to do with it. There havent been as many at CBP this year, but I would think there would be a few more for the next 3 with nicer weather.

  103. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Come on Chooch let’s get it on so you don’t have to call another harrowing 8th and 9th.

  104. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Rutro – I bet a dribbler to the 3rd basemen

  105. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    told ya

  106. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Well done Carlos!!!!!

    Patience, this team will knock in their share of runs.

  107. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Call the mayor!

  108. DC Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    I will say that Angel Pagan is a good player. I wouldn’t mind having him on the Phils

  109. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    What…what was that?

  110. joedad Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    One of these days, we need to rank phillies nation trolls of the year. Terri, teejvee, chuck

  111. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    not sure if I like Myers coming in with the mound being as disgusting as it is. Oh well, if he can pitch through this then he is good to go.

  112. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Nick Johnson just hit a double in the 8th. 0 outs. 5-2 Nats. Hold on baby

  113. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Oh Florida hit a leadoff double. Damn them. Won’t they go away?

  114. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    don’t slip brett…please don’t slip

  115. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    WOW!!! Vintage Jimmy Rollins one of the greatest defensive SS to ever play this game

  116. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    This year, Romero sucked, but last year, he was one of the Trusted Guys. And yeah, I can’t believe I miss Clay Condrey. Bizarre.

  117. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    whoa troy tulowitski eat that

  118. Keith Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    great inning for Myers!

  119. Dave Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    2 inning save!! 2 inning save!

  120. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    6 Pitches. Leave Myers out for the ninth and Madson warming up.

  121. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    i like where your head is at joedad.

    Way to go Brett. Thank God you are back.

  122. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    1 and 3 marlins nobody out. crap

  123. Stuart Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Please dear god leave myers in

  124. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Nats are teetering – men on the corners, bottom of the 8th, no out, and the Nats have a terrible pitcher on. Hell.

  125. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Madson is coming in. Darn you Charlie the aweful.

  126. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Bob you are correct. J-Roll is one of the best Defensive SS’s to play the game. Probably why everyone was so surprised with his errors yesterday! All that proves, is he is still human while in the field. Sadly, he keep swinging at first freaking pitch when up to bat.

  127. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    I agree, I wish we would leave Myers in there. Save Madson for tomorrow. I don’t get why Charlie will let starters go too long and is afraid to use a reliever for more than one inning. It drives me crazy. Myers is good to go.

  128. Stuart Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    why, oh why did i see madson warming up. give myers a chance.

  129. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    1 out and still 1 and 3rd. 5-2 come on Nats

  130. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Charlie can’t give Myers a chance to go two, it’s not in him. For a guy who can’t handle pitchers he is all about one inning max for relievers.

  131. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Well I can understand Charlie’s logic, Madson is your closer right now.

    But I agree that Myers only threw 6 pitches, let him start the 9th

  132. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Ed R. – man if myers would have gotten hurt….If his surgeon was watching this, he probably needs the heimlich manuver cause he’s choking on his beer nuts. Crazy.

  133. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Yes sir!

    We may not have to worry about it

  134. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Amen Chase. Amen.

  135. fitz Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Utley is my homeboy.

  136. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Come on big man. Single at the least.

  137. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    I’d agree with you guys about Myers but why play with fire…give Walker the nod if he’s available

  138. Stuart Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Howard just frustrates me to no end.

  139. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Way to go. 3 strike outs today.

  140. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Double Play. Nats got out of it with no runs against. 5-2 Yes. UTLEY…

    You need to put Werth up after Howard. They make it to easy for a lefty.

  141. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    agreed J-Reed. That being said, I am all about throwing him out there for another inning. Totally illogical I know.

  142. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Go Phils, Go Nats!

  143. Stuart Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Jeff I agree. They need to put werth in there and shuffle it up. and ibanez is not as good as a hitter as werth right now. he isnt the protection for howard that he was in the early part of the season.

  144. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Hell at least he freakin made contact! How many strikeouts did he have yesterday. He appears to like the one month on one month off theory. Player of the month for August, followed by this crap, hopefully that means (granted we are playing deep in October) he decides to be the player of the month again.

  145. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Oh God, the ninth inning. I hope my beer isn’t skunked.

  146. joedad Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    why the hate for Madson with a 3 run lead?

  147. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Isnt it weird bob. Last night we were rooting for the mets and against the nats. now its the other way.

  148. Colorado Joe Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Let’s go Ryan. Close it out!

  149. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Amazing in this weather and no mets fielding blooper reel errors

  150. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    I meant howard with the strikeouts and month by month. FYI, Nats got out of that jam.

  151. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    Werth was after Howard for like the last two months, Ibanez finally shows life and now he moves back to the 5 hole. I don’t really get it.

    I am all for giving Walker a chance too but more than that, I would rather we save a reliever and just burn Myers for 2 innings and get out of tonight using 3 total pitchers rather than 4.

  152. joedad Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    j reed franceur misplayed the ball in right, blloper worthy

  153. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    oh good lord. Madson already has 5 blown saves. I sure hope he doesnt add to it.

  154. Terri Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    oh boy…

  155. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    charlie sucks. should of left myers in,

  156. Stuart Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    I wouldve loved to see myers stay in and I think he should have. my only reasoning is that maybe cholly is trying to get some confidence in madson before the end of the season/post season. but i think we should have a committee closing games and myers should be in now, and we would prob not be pulling our hair out like we are now.

  157. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    I think Madson is trying his best Lidge impression. 6 pitches and bring Myers out. Charlie sometime makes some REALLY stupid decisions.

  158. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Walker Texas Ranger

  159. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    joedad for me its not about hating on Madson. I am all about him being the closer right now, actually, scratch that. I’d rather it by Myers or Walker but I am ok with Charlies decision to use Madson as the closer. My issue with tonight is that Myers threw 6 pitches last inning, he is fresh and still good to go for another inning. If he gives up a hit or two, then bring in Madson but atleast try and save him if you can.

  160. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    Meatball, even GameCast said so. And joedad, Madson’s blown 3-run leads before, remember?

    j reed, that you up to bat? Could you line out to Utley so he can double up Santos?

  161. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Very odd Jeff, but the beauty of pennant race baseball

  162. Mostone Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Whew!

  163. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    ok, I will trade 1 run for 2 outs. Lets get this last out Mad Dog.

  164. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    I my name is converted save. I show up every so often. Pleased to meet you.

  165. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    there you go Mike D. not a line out

  166. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    5-3 Nats now, Uggla just homered. Die, Fish, die!

  167. Andrew Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Guess the phils arent going to get swept?
    Plus the marlins are losing
    I guess the sky isnt falling and jsut maybe the phils will make the playoffs this year
    Losng 1 of 3 to the senators and youd think we were the nationals or the mutts

  168. fitz Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    lol nice. Don’t know how confident Charlie will be to throw Madson out there again.

  169. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    I just dont feel comfy with Madson. Myers is a much better option with Madson in his normal role.

  170. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    5-3 Nats. Uggla led off the 9th with a homer. No outs.

  171. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    mike D.
    but the double play as requested

  172. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Ok, so thats the difference between Madson and Lidge. Lidge gives up a hit then flips out and loses. Madson settles down. Oh crap 5-3 Uggla hit a homer, Ross single, no outs. Freakin Nats in the 9th inning.

  173. Andrew Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Wes Helms on decl for the marlins
    that should end it

  174. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Still no outs, man on first. Damn it.

  175. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Single by Cody Ross. Runner on 1st, no outs. 5-3 Nats.

    Can I get a GIDP?!?!?!

  176. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Loom Andrew, I told you I dont ALWAYS disagree with you. But it is hard to disagree with that comment since its fact and not opinion. :)

  177. Andrew Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    How pathetic theres what 400 in the stands in Florida?
    And they are getting a new stadium? why?

  178. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Here come the Marlins. Please hang on.

  179. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    Definitely Myers…more tools in the tool box than Madson but not tonight to sloppy considering his hip

  180. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Ok I am not going to update on the Fish game anymore. Enough people are doing it.

  181. Andrew Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    ok macdougal needs to be lifted

  182. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    AW$^_Q#)^W$%H&W$Y^SE%YG. Freaking Nationals.

  183. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Hell, the Marlins are going to win, aren’t they?

  184. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    1ST AND 2ND NOBODY OUT. CRAP

  185. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Because they think a new stadium will draw fans…nope, it won’t No one wants to sit in the humidity that is the Miami weather. It’s a shame for the team but oh well.

  186. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Yes Mike, they are going to win.

  187. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Come on Nats-friggin pretend for 10 seconds that you are an MLB baseball team!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  188. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    1 OUT STIRKE OUT…2 MORE

  189. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Is the live feed not working for anyone else?

  190. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    We just can not catch a break. This was the break we needed to

  191. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Pretend they are playing us. LOL

  192. jt Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Nats closer doing everything he can to blow the game.

  193. Andrew Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    senators win

  194. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    GAME OVER…WOOOOOO DOUBLE PLAY

  195. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    There was that gift! SWEET!

  196. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    GAME OVER!!! NATS WIN!!!

  197. Mike D. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    *Exhales*

    6 games up, and my, how taxing it was.

  198. David Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    Fish lose. Exhale everyone!

  199. Jeff Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    For one saturday night all good is restored in the land of the Nation. Is this fun or what. LOL

  200. Phils Phan Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Suck it, Marlins. Feel the pain of an almost, but not quite, comeback failure.

  201. Ed R. Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Maybe the Nat’s deserve some credit after all? Maybe not.

  202. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Andrew – yeah…I think they need to move the Marlins franchise to a place like portland, but they would have to have a dome or retractable dome with all that rain. and put them in the AL West. I’m sick of the NL being Selig’s small market experiment…god forbid if there’s another team to take away from the AL talent pool…what would the Yankees do?

  203. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Is tomorrow the double header?

  204. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  205. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Did we really win that game without a Home Run? Wow thats a big step!

  206. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    J Reed, say it aint so, there are people who dont like the drunk Selig? LOL. JK. He is a complete idiot.

  207. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    I wonder if the Nats will fast track Strasburg…they could be a sleeper next year if they get their bull pen stabilized. Their starters are servicable esp. with the way they hit. Although their fielding is so bad, it might just neutralize there offensive prowess

  208. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Brian – does he have job security like a supreme court justice? how can he removed..I know he says he’s retiring in 2010 or 2011…I don’t know if that will give him enough time to position his Brewers into the WS

  209. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Too bad the fans cant vote him out. I agree with you!

  210. Grrrumpy Miners Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Yup…at Tn Phan……..Most of in fact ALL the trolls in this room abandoned ship in early July and left me alone in here to stand up for my Amazins.After seeing the calamities on most of the team,left the Amazins exposed.Omar said he’d rebuild the farm system and keep us competitive? HA!As for Jerry Manuel,he is nothing more than a comic relief giving one liners (If I wanted one liners,I’d look for Henny Youngman to manage them).Bobby Valentine and even Tony LaRussa are managerial free agents and I would gladly take one of them over Henny Youngman and his wacky one liners.This Met team needs a new direction and to focus on actual baseball.Also Omar needs to focus on rebuilding this team and jettison the wastes of space on this team today.

  211. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Grrrumpy Miners, there is one MAJOR difference between you and “Most of in fact ALL the trolls in this room”…You have class. You know how to talk baseball, and some smack talk without all the rest of the crap that comes along with the trolls.

  212. charlie Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Great night for the Phigtins.Lead now 7 in loss column over Fish.We need some margin with this pathetic hitting.That rag arm Clippard who was jacked by Werth and Feliz shut down the Fish in front of the home crowd of 16 that came to support the Fish in a pennant race. What is Phils magic# after tonite? Love it when we pick up 2 in a nite.

  213. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

    Grumpy – was citi field built on an indian burial ground? cause I really have never see a baseball team with this many injuries and can only assume curse….I hardly recognize anyone in the line up. I wouldn’t blame manuel…aside from the bad luck, I think the GM is who set the table by bleeding your farm and overspending.

  214. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Grumpy, I’m no Mets fan but the words “new direction” and “Mets” probably is one of the top 3 sensible things said this evening. Not sure what Omar is doing up there. You guys have one of the best pitchers in baseball in Santana and a top closer in K-Rod. You are one of the few Mets fans I feel for because your a true fan of the game and have something to offer better than “the Phillies suck or the Phillies are a fluke”. You actually talk baseball.

    My favorite quotes tonight: “Chase Utley is overrated” and something along the lines of “this team sucks”.

  215. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    I believe the magic number is 18

  216. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Too bad the Braves are winning in the bottom of the 9th.

  217. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Charlie – nope i counted, a crowd of 8

  218. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Brian – I am glad it’s the fish chasing us….the braves with tim hudson (another sinkerballer to torment us) back , the braves have even more serious depth in their rotation. Better to pitch to the fish than hit the Braves arms

  219. joedad Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Matt Cain is pitching against the Dodgers on MLB. I havent seen him pitch before. He looks good in the first couple of innings

  220. Baseballbriefs.com Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Baseballbriefs.com tracking back Gameday: Mets(62-78) at Phillies(79-59)…

    Baseballbriefs.com tracking back Gameday: Mets(62-78) at Phillies(79-59)…

  221. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    LA 2, SF – 1 3rd inning….I’d rather see the dodgers than the giants

  222. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Well I just hope they were building from the 9th inning yesterday. I dont want them to sleep on the fish! Today was a start with a win without a home run! Yes it was a win against the Mets, HOWEVER, I believe this was a big win, not just because the Fish lost, but because it was without a homer.

  223. bob Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    LMAO, we had a crowd of maybe 25-30,000 with the rain and that probably is still 5X the crowd that the Marlins had tonight.

  224. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    I am still not thinking about who I would rather face. I am thinking about taking my 08 NL East champs hat and having 07, 08 and 09 on it hopefully.

  225. joedad Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    If the Phils play 11-12 the rest of the way, Fish need to go 16-5 and Braves need to go 18-3. As Seinfeld says, “Not bloody likely!”

  226. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Did their “fans” completely give up on them? I put it in quotes because apparently they only show up when they are in first, meaning I dont consider them real fans.

  227. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    joedad – yeah I was hoping the Phils would have seen him the last time we played the Giants…not because I’m a sado-masocist…but the more looks the better your chances are against a pitcher, esp. one you might face in the post season…Glad to hear Clint Hurdle in the booth…I thought he was the Rox fall guy for their early season struggles.

  228. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Brian – which fans are you referring to

  229. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    As long as it is still possible, I will continue to say if. I know I guess I am wierd.

  230. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Marlins. It sounds like they gave up on them.

  231. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Man why couldn’t we have picked up someone like Belliard for the bench

  232. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Francisco has been very good for the bench.

  233. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Well considering the Marlins past firesales could make the Pirates jealous I can’t blame the fans…plus they play in a domeless park which in the middle of monsoon season is dumber than dirt. They do have hot latina go-go dancers workin it on the dug out between innings and that didn’t work. I don’t drink anymore but I can’t imagine drinking beer in that humidity unless you are a sado-masocist.

  234. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Brian – Yes but he’s an outfielder….Belliard can play 3rd, 2nd and 1st and hit for contact

  235. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    To me, “hot latina go-go dancers” would make it all worth it. LOL. Night all. great to see a Phillies win!

  236. Brian of CO Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Well that is a great point, we are lacking the infield bench/utility player at this point honestly.

  237. j reed Says:
    September 11th, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Brian – nothing wrong with saying “if”….the baseball gods reward humility, not hubris.
    Speaking of which, one thing I love about our team….no chest bumps, gimmic dances and patty-cake high five games. We celebrate when appropriate and never to excess.

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