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		<title>By: The State of the Phillies &#124; Phillies Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>The State of the Phillies &#124; Phillies Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on MLBTradeRumors.com, (a site that I wish I came up with when I was nine years old.) As I stated here, Polanco represents the best upgrade at the hot corner because he adds a new dimension to an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on MLBTradeRumors.com, (a site that I wish I came up with when I was nine years old.) As I stated here, Polanco represents the best upgrade at the hot corner because he adds a new dimension to an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woo!!!</description>
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		<title>By: jrollpatrol08</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrollpatrol08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i too say beltre. he can be comfortably signed multiyear, which is more than you can say for polanco, derosa types. you need a multiyear guy now. the only heir to 3rd base for the phillies was sent to cleveland for cliff lee. there is no position depth in the minors at 3rd so sign beltre and his numbers/production will be great in the phils lineup. 

u cant give up the farm for one year of halladay. you just cant. what if the phils do that and do not win the ws in 2010. then you have no trophy, no farm system, and no halladay. the only way the deal makes sense is if ruben can sign halladay multiyear and justify spending min 40mil per year on lee/halladay. you will see werth and ryan howard leave because there isnt enough money. you have no prospects to fill in the OF so youhave to spend more money on FA to fill in. you have an overpowering pitching with no offense, and become the sanfrancisco giants. no thanks. good luck sellin tickets with no homeruns</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i too say beltre. he can be comfortably signed multiyear, which is more than you can say for polanco, derosa types. you need a multiyear guy now. the only heir to 3rd base for the phillies was sent to cleveland for cliff lee. there is no position depth in the minors at 3rd so sign beltre and his numbers/production will be great in the phils lineup. </p>
<p>u cant give up the farm for one year of halladay. you just cant. what if the phils do that and do not win the ws in 2010. then you have no trophy, no farm system, and no halladay. the only way the deal makes sense is if ruben can sign halladay multiyear and justify spending min 40mil per year on lee/halladay. you will see werth and ryan howard leave because there isnt enough money. you have no prospects to fill in the OF so youhave to spend more money on FA to fill in. you have an overpowering pitching with no offense, and become the sanfrancisco giants. no thanks. good luck sellin tickets with no homeruns</p>
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		<title>By: psujoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>psujoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a nice look at the possible bull pen arms out there for those interested.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Phillies_Free_Agent_Preview_The_Pen.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a nice look at the possible bull pen arms out there for those interested.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Phillies_Free_Agent_Preview_The_Pen.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Phillies_Free_Agent_Preview_The_Pen.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: psujoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>psujoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love Pedro back at 3.5-4 mil.  Sign Jammie Carroll as the new Bruntlett. Load up the pen and find a left handed bat in the OF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love Pedro back at 3.5-4 mil.  Sign Jammie Carroll as the new Bruntlett. Load up the pen and find a left handed bat in the OF.</p>
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		<title>By: Don M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Jayson Stark... Pedro Feliz was &quot;hurt&quot; that the Phillies did not pickup his option..

Baltimore is said to be very interested in Feliz 


I think there fall-back plan is Pedro Feliz.. maybe for $3, or even $4 M, which would save them $1 or $2 Million, perfect for Relief Pitching

but lets see if Feliz (multiple World Series&#039; appearances, and a World Series Champion) cares to play for less money in Philadelphia (a place where he now wouldn&#039;t feel wanted) .. or if he takes a slightly more money to play for a non-contending team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Jayson Stark&#8230; Pedro Feliz was &#8220;hurt&#8221; that the Phillies did not pickup his option..</p>
<p>Baltimore is said to be very interested in Feliz </p>
<p>I think there fall-back plan is Pedro Feliz.. maybe for $3, or even $4 M, which would save them $1 or $2 Million, perfect for Relief Pitching</p>
<p>but lets see if Feliz (multiple World Series&#8217; appearances, and a World Series Champion) cares to play for less money in Philadelphia (a place where he now wouldn&#8217;t feel wanted) .. or if he takes a slightly more money to play for a non-contending team</p>
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		<title>By: shag beta sigma delta</title>
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		<dc:creator>shag beta sigma delta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GW I fully agree, I feel Peter Happy will be back for between 3-4.5 million for one year and team option for 2011.  That said if they could add a guy, DeRosa or PP as a bench guy to rest Feliz and Utley that would be Ideal.  I think Pedro&#039;s age and back issues needs more rest thoughout the year.  He started out great at the plate and tailed off after the All-Star break.  So if you can pick up a guy who can play third and second, and even SS once in a while that would be perfect.  I think if  Feliz can have a day off a week and say play 120-130 games a year he would become more consistent all year.
That would be my one and only issue with Charlie, he needs to rest these guys more than he has in the past.  
I do not follow the minors a lot except what I here in here, and from that I think our pitching help can come from within, especially in the pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GW I fully agree, I feel Peter Happy will be back for between 3-4.5 million for one year and team option for 2011.  That said if they could add a guy, DeRosa or PP as a bench guy to rest Feliz and Utley that would be Ideal.  I think Pedro&#8217;s age and back issues needs more rest thoughout the year.  He started out great at the plate and tailed off after the All-Star break.  So if you can pick up a guy who can play third and second, and even SS once in a while that would be perfect.  I think if  Feliz can have a day off a week and say play 120-130 games a year he would become more consistent all year.<br />
That would be my one and only issue with Charlie, he needs to rest these guys more than he has in the past.<br />
I do not follow the minors a lot except what I here in here, and from that I think our pitching help can come from within, especially in the pen.</p>
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		<title>By: GWFightinsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GWFightinsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone is losing sight of the fact that its quite possible that Feliz will return. They declined the option because they probably think that he can be signed for less that the 5 mil or 5.5 mil than they would have had to pay him had they picked up his option. Maybe they can use some of the saved money to improve their pitching...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone is losing sight of the fact that its quite possible that Feliz will return. They declined the option because they probably think that he can be signed for less that the 5 mil or 5.5 mil than they would have had to pay him had they picked up his option. Maybe they can use some of the saved money to improve their pitching&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JJFritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJFritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feliz struggled offensively, agreed -- most likely from his back problems. Defensively, we couldn&#039;t ask for more. It&#039;s a shame to see him go when we don&#039;t really know what he could offensively if he was healthy. Just a thought. DeRosa is a little old, and may not be able to handle every day, as most of us agreed. Beltre -- out of the price range. Figgins -- perfect if we were looking for a leadoff, but with Vic and JRoll, that&#039;s unrealistic. Polanco would be a good fit if we can expect a 34-year old to play 162 games a year... Most of you said that bringing in Polanco would give Utley much needed rest when needed. Moving Polanco back and forth between 2nd and 3rd while giving Utley rest and Dobbs time would not offer a very good transition for Polanco. Not a good idea. If DeRosa and/or Polanco are willing to play off the bench, why not sign both to 1-year deals with incentives and options. DeRosa can play outfield which would be great. And, whichever wins out at third, the other could be used for trade bait this summer. Just another thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feliz struggled offensively, agreed &#8212; most likely from his back problems. Defensively, we couldn&#8217;t ask for more. It&#8217;s a shame to see him go when we don&#8217;t really know what he could offensively if he was healthy. Just a thought. DeRosa is a little old, and may not be able to handle every day, as most of us agreed. Beltre &#8212; out of the price range. Figgins &#8212; perfect if we were looking for a leadoff, but with Vic and JRoll, that&#8217;s unrealistic. Polanco would be a good fit if we can expect a 34-year old to play 162 games a year&#8230; Most of you said that bringing in Polanco would give Utley much needed rest when needed. Moving Polanco back and forth between 2nd and 3rd while giving Utley rest and Dobbs time would not offer a very good transition for Polanco. Not a good idea. If DeRosa and/or Polanco are willing to play off the bench, why not sign both to 1-year deals with incentives and options. DeRosa can play outfield which would be great. And, whichever wins out at third, the other could be used for trade bait this summer. Just another thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Don M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how Taylor, alone, can bring back any kind of insane return

Domonic Brown is ranked higher.. and again, I heard that the Blue Jays were more interested in Anthony Gose than Michael Taylor

I don&#039;t think Taylor is actually in high demand around the league</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how Taylor, alone, can bring back any kind of insane return</p>
<p>Domonic Brown is ranked higher.. and again, I heard that the Blue Jays were more interested in Anthony Gose than Michael Taylor</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Taylor is actually in high demand around the league</p>
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