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14 Responses to “Lidge, Eyre, Ibanez To Have Surgery”

1. HolyGhostClaw Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 7:46 am

   Lidge will also need to have his balls reattached, after completely pussing out all year in big spots. “Lights Out” my ass!!

2. Greg V. Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 10:37 am

   I love all the Lidge frontrunners. Couldn’t say enough good about him in ‘08 and can’t say enough bad about him in ‘09. He is certainly not to blame for being shoved out there with an elbow and knee injury. The front office and the coaches had to have known about this. He had to adjust his mechanics and it didn’t work a lot of the time but he still recorded 30+ saves and got some key outs in the playoffs including the inning leading up to Rollins’ walk off hit off Broxton. So I would hardly say he “pussed out”.

3. Geoff Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 10:40 am

   They need to sign a backup option to Lidge, but still let Lidge have this job heading into the season. Lidges surgery may keep him out the first few weeks of the season anyway. THe ideal guy to me would be Rafael Soriano. When Lidge comes back you then slide Soriano into the 7th Inning or hte alternate setup role behind Madson.

4. George Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 11:08 am

   I wouldn’t say automatically that Lidge was “shoved out there.” He may at least be partly to blame. If he indicated his elbow didn’t always feel right, but then assured management he could pitch, then he wasn’t exactly forced to do anything.

   I do, however, disagree that he “pussed out.” He most certainly pitched under less than ideal circumstances no matter whose decision it was. And he did still save lot of games.

   Fans need to lay off Lidge and Hamels both. A bad year is a bad year, and I’m sure they’ll both get over it. Some so-called fans need to do the same. They also need to stop using such immature and nasty terminology, and stop making personal attacks on a player’s character. Maybe if Hamels or Lidge were serial killers that would be justified. People talk about a player’s selfishness, then demand performances that suit THEMSELVES, make accusations that suit THEMSELVES, and analyze everything in terms of what they THEMSELVES would have done.

5. The Dipsy Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 11:31 am

   Hi Geoff. There is no way in the world we would get Rafael Soriano. How much do you think it would cost to get him? I think a lot. He’s a stud. I love most players when they play well. I rag players most when they stink. “Special players”, proven Philadelphia stalwarts, like Utley for instance, get passes from me. Lidge is not one of them. For the most part, as far as I’m concerned, if you make lots of money, you’re not allowed to suck.

   The Dipsy

6. The Dipsy Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 11:32 am

   correction “rag most players”.

   The Dipsy

7. Ed R. Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

   Soriano will cost a ton I am sure but personally I think he is worth it. He would be my number one priority in the off season. I think if Hamels comes back circa 2008 then your rotation is in good shape heading into next year with Lee, Hamels, Blanton, Happ and even Kendrick as your 5th until Drabek is ready. I’d love a new third basemen but if I had my option, I’d take Feliz and Soriano over Beltre and someone of lesser talent than Soriano.

8. dudley monk Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

   Billy Wagner — a name from the past — has been mentioned on MLB RUMORS as a good fit for the Philly bullpen. He can pitch and we need a closer. Lidge may not be ready for the start of the season next year. We all know Bill “Big Mouth” is a whore, but he CAN pitch.

9. Ed R. Says:
   November 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

   He also ripped the Phillies and their fans right before he was traded to the Sox. He would sooner retire than come back here. He was a P.O.S. I’d rather Myers over him.

10. SpankyYankee Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Wahooooooooo…..didn’t think the man would pay up but he did….section 118 tonight to watch the BOYS…play with the sparrows like toys…..GO DALLAS….thought you were going to re-neg on the World Series bet….so if you add in the 2 tickets plus the EASY MONEY won off the Phillies in the World series all toll $5,950.00….not bad …..got the new BIG “D” hat yesterday….but still waiting for the apology suck up and don’t make me tell your pals on here bro…..who this is ….I know they will eat you up and spit you out….ya gave up the tickets now put it in words on the blog. Its gotta be on here by the time me and my partner get back from the game.

11. George Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Soriano has been injury prone in the past, but he will be expensive based on his performance when he’s healthy. I’m not sure he’d be needed, especially if his arm acts up again. If Lidge can’t start the year, it’s been indicated that he will be ready shortly thereafter. Madson might be adequate for a couple of weeks. Lidge, after all, didn’t start his perfect 2008 season the first week, either.

    The Phils do need bullpen arms, particularly if Eyre doesn’t return. I think left handers are needed most, though. Wagner, however, is too old and too much of a disruption.

    As far as “ragging” on players not earning their money, I don’t find that obnoxious. It’s the questioning of attitudes, personal attacks, and the crude name-calling that I don’t like. I don’t think any of the Phils lack mental fortitude, even if they appear to at times. Some of them make regrettable comments and do stupid things off the field, but I think everyone does, particularly when things aren’t going well. But the real head cases are always weeded out; the Phils don’t even sign the Milton Bradleys and John Rockers of the baseball world, and the few duds they’ve had seem to get released pretty quickly. The PED using infielder they tried in spring training and at Lehigh Valley this year got dumped so fast I can’t even remember his name.

12. Ed R. Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Phillies declined Feliz’s option.

    Bring on Adrian Beltre. Or Dan Uggla.

13. Manny Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    I hope Eyre stays with us. Just look up the stats. Probably THE best bullpen guy in our team in the past 2 season.

14. joedad Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    I agree Manny. He is solid. I am not sure if he has decided if he wants to come back and the Phils want to see how his surgery goes.

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