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Phillies, Castro Agree to Terms
Posted by Amanda Orr, Tue, November 24, 2009 03:25 PM
The Phillies reportedly agreed to a deal with utility infielder Juan Castro, pending a physical. The deal is for one year with a club option for 2011. The deal might not be officially announced until next week.
Castro will fill Eric Bruntlett’s spot on the roster. The 37-year old batted .277 in 112 at-bats with the Los Angeles Dodgers last season. Castro was given a minor league contract worth $700,000 in 2009. If the deal is official, it is unlikely to exceed that price.
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November 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Wow Bruntlett better look out. There is competetion now.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Um, Bruntlett was taken off the 40-man roster, hes gone.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
kind of got that eh… feeling about this one, but I guess it will give them some options. He seems to be an improvement over the beard at least.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I think this would close the book on Derosa since I can’t see the Phils taking a chance on him full time at third.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Well, good. Thats one need met.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
True, glad a need has been met on the cheap. Wonder if he’s at least good enough for Charlie to use once a week to spell Chase or JRoll.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I meant that last comment in terms of being good enough to convince Charlie to actually use him, and feel comfortable doing so, instead of letting the bench rot except for PH like last year.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
He hit .277 last year in that role…so thatll get him two starts a week (one for chase, one of jroll).
November 24th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
it shoudl at least, should…
November 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Castro is a lifetime .233 hitter with little power. He is probably an improvement over Bruntlett, but not a significant one. He has a lot (14 years) of experience as a utility player. I trust Ruben Jr.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Castro can also play 3rd base. He played 8 games there last year.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Yeah, plus. He is the 24th or 25th man on the roster. So, liek Don always says, what more do you want for a guy making not much more than the minumum.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
TOMAS PEREZ WHERE ARE YOU ?????? Tomas has a higher lifetime batting average than Juan Castro, more power and is younger. Maybe we could get him for an even cheaper price. ANd, oh yeah, he did not play in the majors last year. Plus Tomas is a switch hitter and mastered the “Pie-in-the-Face” routine.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Yeah guess this would mean no Derosa unless he’s playing third full time, but It could be good if the Phils are saving that money to make a run at Beltre for third and maybe some top free agent arms.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
One year deal with a club option for a second.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Can’t hit, doesn’t walk, doesn’t steal, strikes out a lot… sounds a lot like bruntlett, except he could at least steal a base or two
November 24th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Bruntlett 2.0
I like it.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Bruntlett gone? I am canceling my season tickets.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Hopefully, Chan Ho Park will re-sign, so we’ll at least have one beard on the team.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Wow David Bell better look out. There is competition now.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Dude, what the fu*k! Our first signing this season is JUAN CASTRO? Hes a bum! I would have loved to have kept Bruntlett over this piece of shit. With all of the upgrading that were trying to do to this club, why worry about replacing Bruntlett now? Couldn’t that have came last, when all the ‘’shitty picks” were left in free agency? I mean, cause he is a shitty pick.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
HE IS THE 25th MAN ON THE ROSTER, HE WILL NOT MAKE MUCH IN BASEBALL TERMS, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THAT? Its a need, they addressed it, fine. Good. It was always going to be a guy on the cheap.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Castro should have been given an invite to spring training not a guaranteed contract as the first free agent signing of the season.
There are many better (and possibly cheaper) options available so why Castro and why now?
November 24th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Lucky I couldn’t agree anymore with you. I too would have rather just kept Bruntlett than sign Castro
November 24th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Better, but not cheaper. Ill bet they really got this guy cheap. I am FINE with this signing. DeRosa is going to get paid as a starter, that was always the case. If the Phils sign him it will be to start.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Bruntlett was awful. He lost the confiedence of his manager and fellow players Bye, bye. I think the Phils could’ve done better than Castro, but he’s a well liked player and a decent fielder. Hopefully the $$$$ is being used to sign a top reliefer, 3b and possibly a starter.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I wouldve like Uribe but Uribe might want more PT than we could give him.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
If they wanted to stay competitive, and upgrade over bruntlett they should have signed Garciaparra
November 24th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
This from Baseball Prospectus’ Joe Sheehan: “at his peak Castro was a good enough defensive SS to be a credible starter despite his limp bat. Now, he should not longer even be on a roster.”
November 24th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
This from Baseball Prospectus’ Joe Sheehan: “at his peak Castro was a good enough defensive SS to be a credible starter despite his limp bat. Now, he should no longer even be on a roster.”
November 24th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Woops, sorry for the double post.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Jeez. ITS A FREAKING BENCH UTILITY PLAYER! What is wrong with you people! Who cares? If he sucks, you can get another one during the season. Hes better than Bruntlett and Cairo. Hes cheap, and it saves money to be used on OTHER pieces.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Juan Castro?? Seriously, though. I hope this signing isn’t based solely on his performance off the bench in L.A. He played on a team that hit pitchers so hard that by the time he would get a chance off the bench, teams were using their mop-up pitchers that struggled themselves. Yeah, that seems like a good reason to sign someone. Lifetime .233 hitter — one year of .277 off the bench, limited usage on a team of L.A. caliper… Just doesn’t worth the risk, especially at his age. No offense to Juan, maybe — hopefully– it will work out. But, if we’re really looking at going deep into October again next year, we need younger with more talent, someone who can produce more effectively, and more consistently. I pray that Amaro has something HUGE planned to counteract this and make it seem okay. I’m just not sold on Castro to be the Godsend-backup up the middle. There has to be better options….
November 24th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Phils weren’t going to spend more than a million on a bench player when they have other more pressing needs. I’ll reserve judgement when the final off-season acquisitions are completed. Seriously though, they better have gotten him for cheap because Omar Vizquel is superior, IMO. Viz cost $1.375.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
The problem with this signing is that it is a guaranteed contract. If the Phils cut him in spring training they still have to pay him.
If the Phils brought him to spring training as an invitee and then he earned a roster spot, then fine. But why guarantee him a contract?
November 24th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Geoff,
Who cares if hes a utilty guy?? Are you serious? Listen to yourself. Its not the fact that he’s a utilty player, its the fact that this is THE FIRST SIGNING of the 2010 season, and the choice was horrible as Bruntlett himself. This is almost like going deep sea fishing, expecting a nice size fish, and reeling in a fish stick. Im sorry but this just caught me off guard. Juan Castro would still have been available long after we addressed our ”priorities” first.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Griffin, Dodgers would’ve resigned him well before spring training. They were in negotiations with him as well.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
This news is completely underwhelming.
The Dipsy
November 24th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Anyone else here thing Omar Vizquel would’ve been a superior signing?
November 24th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Who cares if he was the first or last signing of the season? He is a utility player, that is all. Bench players in baseball are not like bench players in basketball where your 6th guy could probably be a starter on a lot of teams. And for the record, we already have that in Ben Francisco. Castro is a versatile fielder who can play 3 positions, can play sufficient defense and pinch run. And to be annoyed that they didn’t just break the bank to sign a bench player is crazy. In case you haven’t noticed, no one worth a darn has signed yet. There is a reason for that, good players want to wait it out and see how much they can get. That’s the nature of the business.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Why did we sign Castro “so early”? Cause the Dodgers wanted him, too
November 24th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Ed R. Do you like Castro more than Vizquel or is Viz too expensive for 1.375?
November 24th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Some of you guys are the typical negative fans here, like they have no clue what theyre doing.
And, you dont know anything about baseball then if youre all upset that hes the first signing. Usually a few of these lesser guys sign independently before the big boys sign. Who cares when he signs? In what order? Its the offseason! Its not like theyre losing games right now because they signed this guy, they havent even got going in reloading this team.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Personally I like Vizquel more but I don’t think any bench player is worth 1.375 mil. But that is me personally. For how often a bench player is used, I’d prefer the extra coin go to a pitcher.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Does anyone understand this? Honestly, Beardo at least has the triple play on his side……I am lost, this is not power of the bench that I can see.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Were not typical neggative fans…Like Karen said, were lost & confused about the news.
Who cares if the Dodgers were close to signing him, they should have.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I’d like to point out that Vizquel signed with someone else for 1.385 million. That means the Phils would have had to pay even MORE to get him. Castro is old, but remember, Vizquel is even older!
The remark about Castro’s performance being helped by the Dodger’s lineup is completely irrelevent. If this were a real argument, Bruntlett should have hit better after Howard, Utley, Ibanez, Werth, etc. had destroyed the other team’s bullpen.
The team needed a versatile player, and Bruntlett was no longer up to snuff, if he ever had been. It was time to try someone else. Sure, if they’d waited, they might have ended up with someone better. They also may have paid more for an injury prone veteran like Garciaparra, who really can’t play SS very well anymore. Or they may have ended up with someone worse for the same money as Castro.
Remember, too, how little people griped in 2008, when Bruntlett hit a lusty .217. Castro’s a sub, for crying out loud. You don’t break the bank for a sub. Give the front office a break.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Here is the lowdown on Juan Castro…..And it will show the brilliance of Ruben Amaro, Jr. Juan Castro is related to the Castros who run Cuba. Soon, all types of prospects from Cuba will be allowed to play in the USA. Juan Castro will influence the Cuban leadership to get the best players signed with Philly, just like Florida gets the best Puerto Rican and Dominican prospects. This has to be the ONLY reason why we are wasting our time on Juan Castro. I can think of no other reason.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
He is Miguel Cairo’s replacement. He signed a MINOR-LEAGUE deal.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
psujoe i agree i wanted vizquel as a backup option as well. i thought we already had castro’s twin brothers in the system–ozuna and cairo. is castro a step ahead of those bums? hardly
i thought hairston jr would be at least considered for this job. guess i was wrong…
i wouldnt get too worked up over this people. there were some other guys i thought would have worked better as the utility guy…but if the dude does have a halfway decent season then he would be worth the cheap investment…
although come playoff time its gonna feel very familiar. ‘phillies are down 5 to 4 here in the eighth inning…they gotta get somethin going here offensively…to lead off the inning we have a pinch-hitter…juan castro??’
sounds like a .230 career hitter and a hispanic version of bruntlett
November 25th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Castro had a higher OBP last year than our leadoff hitter.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:41 am
HOLD UP?! We didn’t sign Babe Ruth to be our 24-25th man?!
Amaro is an IDIOT……fire him immediately for this joke of a roster he put together.
November 25th, 2009 at 9:22 am
http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091124&content_id=7712250&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi
Its a one year deal with a club option for less than a million dollars. It specifically states he is to be Eric Bruntletts replacement. What is the major issue here? Why are you all upset that they signed someone to replace Bruntlett? Im happy they got it out of the way early.
Marco Scutaro and Mark DeRosa are NOT going to sign to be backups this early in free agency. They BOTH will likely be starters somewhere, or at least be on a team that can give them more PT as a back up (as in, one that has WORSE starters at those positions) than the Phillies could offer. Maybe Juan Uribe wanted more PT, and Vizquel wanted more $ obviously.
To complain about a move like this is kind of just – mentally ill almost.
November 25th, 2009 at 9:49 am
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/92/2009/november/25/castro-joins-team-as-backup.html
November 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am
I like this signing because its for really cheap. But I also think this guy has a really good agent. He got his client a nice, comfortable deal early on a good team with a chance to win a World Series again.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am
According to that article it’s a one year deal with a club option for 2011 for about $750,00. He sounds like a character guy who is defensively oriented and can play ALL infield positions as well as OF, what’s the problem here?
November 25th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I like the move… as it stands, bench players are so moot on this team. We need character guys and money to keep our core in tact. Juan Castro is cheap and he’s a good character guy. Would have loved to see RAJ spend the extra cash to get a super-utility like Derosa but that would mean that we would have less money available to re-sign our guys and less money for a slick 3B so in the end that would probably be a bad move.
I was thinking about something… we need a third basemen now and in the future. We don’t have one on the farm… as much as I would love to see us make a run at Adrian Beltre, I’m not sure if we’ll get him… I’m just not sure if Rube is ready to drop the kind of money that Scott Boras is going to be asking. So then I started thinking about other long-term candidates… guys that are either free agents or going to become free agents on bad teams. Jhonny Peralta’s name jumped out at me… we have had some success dealing with Cleveland (see Lee, Cliff) and he’s a free agent next year so they would be eager to get something for him. He’s not a great defensive 3B but he’s adequate with the bat and in the field…
November 25th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Im thinking Polanco or DeRosa at 3rd now….Beltre may take took long to sign because of Boras.
And you know what>? Since I feel Polanco wont be offered Arbitration, Im OK with either of those two signings, then you get the ebst cheapo backup catcher you can find, and spend the rest of the money on pitching.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:11 am
I would be very happy to see PP back in Philly, don’t know much about DeRosa so I can’t really be too objective, but I like PP ALOT, clutch hitter and good fielder.
Chuck, I don’t know that guy you’re talking about, but when you say “not a great defensive 3b”, I start to twitch a little.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:12 am
did you see the quote from castro’s agent:
“[The Phillies] probably need a guy who can play shortstop if Jimmy Rollins needs a day off or he gets thrown out of a game or he needs a break at the end of a game,” Suarez said.
i like how he tossed in that jroll might get tossed out of a few games. has he ever been tossed? i don’t think i’ve seen it.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:16 am
and then when we get the best cheap backup catcher we can find..
we’ll all have to sit here and read people bitching that Paul Bako or whoever else “SUCKS” .. “HE’S TERRIBLE”… “WTF AMARO !??” ..etc..
but reality is, that you need to spend money on pitching..
November 25th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I think he means like when Jimmy gets benched for a few days, which has happened before…
November 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am
“Adequate” is not an upgrade, and Peralta would cost another player. With a mostly left-handed starting rotation, the Phils definitely need defense at third, because they’ll be facing a lot of right-handed pull hitters. A good hitter would be nice, but a good fielder is more important.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Agreed. But, there are few cheapo guys on the FA list who arent all that bad. How bad would Schnieder be as a backup really? Barrett? Theyll play for cheap too probably in this market….
Bako wasnt bad for a bottom three roster spot guy….
If a guy like Bako, Castro, and Mayberry are your last three position players on the roster, thats really not so bad. I woudl PREFER an upgrade for the final outfield spot, but again, its a 5TH OUTFIELDER. He wont play much. They just need a better pinch hitter than Mayberry who is younger than Matt Stairs.
And yes, spend the rest of it (after 3B) on pitching.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Forget Figgins, and if Beltre wants too much money forget him too…
Polanco OR DeRosa, cheapo backup catcher, 5th OF (which we can really actually find internally during ST, not a real urgent need), then you go best reliver you can afford to sign really…then maybe a cheap reliever or two – even if its on minor league deals as ST fodder, then the best 4th or 5th Starter you can afford who is right handed.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:48 am
I think we’ll here the same “WTF Amaro?!!” when the Phils start to sign pitchers. For some fans, no one is good enough. There were plenty of gripes when the Phils got Lee and Francisco instead of Halladay, and there will be more when the Red Sox or Angels get him. Should the Phils sign Marquis, people will say they should have gone for Sheets. If they sign Sheets, it should have been Harden. Harden should have been Piniero, Piniero should have been Bedard.
I’d take Schnieder, but I’m not as keen on Barrett. But Geoff is right; there are a lot of options, and the catchers out there will either have to play for cheap or not play at all. Still, no matter what, we’ll hear sarcastic remarks about calling Daulton back from retirement.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Schneider would be a great fit.. but wouldn’t he cost at least like $2 Million?
Red Sox are interested in Kelvim Escobar (who was my pick for an under the radar guy that would be a GREAT fit here.. )
…
I’ve now come to realization that I am 100% fine with whatever decisions the Phillies make for their 3b spot
They’ve proven to me that they know what it takes, they know how much to value offense vs. defense vs. payroll … wants vs. needs. . etc.
I didn’t think I would be a big fan of DeRosa, but honestly, he would look great in our lineup
I didn’t think I would be a big fan of Polanco, but he’s a sure-thing #2 hitter.. something this team really needs is consistency and a tough-out in the lineup
I really thought I would like Beltre defensively, and in the lineup … and while I don’t think he’ll command anything CRAZY $$$ .. he might be a little too expensive, or want too many years on his contract
so whatever they decide to do.. I’ll be happy with. .
and give Thanks
November 25th, 2009 at 11:50 am
“Here” should have been “Hear.”
November 25th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Schneider will turn 33 tomrw.. I thought he was like 36+ years old
he made $4.9 M the past two years..
He won’t come all that cheap, but I would LOVE him as our backup catcher..
but I think a lot of other teams would too
November 25th, 2009 at 11:59 am
2 million for Schnieder wouldn’t break the bank. Backup catcher is a far more important position than utility infielder, especially when Ruiz has a history of neck issues. I’m sure the front office realizes that. If they have to, they’ll pay more than they would for a bench bat or fifth outfielder.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Schnieder will have to settle for 2-2.5M I think…but I dont know Id pay a backup catcher that much…
Ruiz will get a raise too, and hes got that position locked in until they develop a kid a few more years down the line. They have prospects at catcher, but none of them are really closer than 2 years away.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I want to see what happens with Marson, Carrasco, Donald in cLEEvland this year..
I’ll be keeping an eye on those guys for their entire careers
November 25th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Yeah. didnt Carrasco bomb his debut? those three will likely be on the major league roster to start the season though.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Does Correia have any value as a #4 or #5? 4.18 era away. The Pads might not tender if the can’t accomadatea deal.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
I think on the Phillies hed be a 5 with a short leash…
November 25th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
yea.. he wasn’t really ready to pitch in the Majors.. but they had nothing else, so they bumped him up
Correia does a nice job, I wouldn’t mind having him on our team, but Im sure there will be LOTS of teams interested
November 25th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
AW Man, Carrasco first 5 starts:
@BOS: 3.1 IP 9H 3ER 1BB/1K
DET: 5IP 6H 4ER 3BB/0K
KC: 6IP 8H 4ER 1BB/3K
TEX: 5IP 8H 5ER 3BB/4K
@DET: 3IP 9H 6ER 3BB/3K
Wow, I feel sorry for him actually. Thats terrible.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
That right there is why you dont rush Drabek up this season. If hes dominating by the all star break, then maybe you bring him up for a few starts. Otherwise, you wait it out.
They had no business putting Carrasco in there and he got LIT UP. That can ruin a guy for good sometimes.
November 25th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
If the Pads are not going to tender Correia he becomes a FA, right? If so what would it take for Kouzmanoff and Correia? Just trying to think of alternatives to older 3b that cost big bucks.
November 25th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I believe Polanco is the best guy for this team at 3B. You can move him to 2B to rest Utley and let Dobbs play 3rd making his bat more effective off the bench as well. Getting Castro doesn’t negate the validity of picking up another versatile player like Polanco. Could do the same with DeRosa and I would not complain. But I agree with Don about Polanco- this lineup needs a tough out….a fundamentally sound, situational hitter who can move runners. As for that 5th starter role…anybody else notice the improvement in Kendrick at the end of last season?
November 25th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
DaveG
I wouldn’t trust Kyle Kendrick to get me, you, or anyone else OUT ..
He’s not an effective pitcher for a team with World Series aspirations
November 25th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Becuase hes going to be non tenedered so you can get him for cheaper instead of paying 4-5 million in arbitration for him…its the same reason NOBODY will trade for Garrett Atkins because NOBODY wants to pay him 7M+. Just wait two more weeks or so and youll get him for nothing…
November 25th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Kendrick would be a long reliever on this team. Id be ok with that. Thats about it though.
November 25th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Drabek has a different mental makeup than Carrasco… Carlos always struggled with changes in scenery. I’m not sure if it was the pressure or a confidence issue but it seemed to take him a little while to adapt at every level. He’ll be an ok pitcher someday… they have to give him some time.
Speaking of 5th OF’ers… Mayberry is hitting again; .312 with 7 HR for Obregon. Taylor had a minor elbow strain early on but he’s adapting and playing well, too. Another notable… Neil Sellers. I know that nobody is high on this kid but he’s hitting .371 with 3 HR and hit .317 at AA Reading last season with 17 HR (he has never hit lower than .271 in any given season). Best of all, he plays 3B.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I saw Sellers play at Reading this year, that night he was hitting like crazy, but the guy who REALLY stood out was Freddy Galvis, who had just been brought up. He has that natural ability at SS, made a few awesome plays, it’s really exciting to see young guys like that in their developing years. I didn’t think I’d enjoy a minor league game as much as I did, but it helps that our farm teams actually have some real talent now.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Careful calling Sellers a “kid.” I’m guessing that he will be 27 or 28 by next spring.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Talking about back up catchers, what about Pudge, would he cost a lot. That would be nice, he has played in big games and would be decent guy to spell Chooch once every two weeks or so. Not sure what his price tag would be, but I know he is out there looking for a team