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26 Responses to “Odds and Ends: Halladay, Park, Duchscherer”

1. bfo_33 Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pm

   ***News Flash***
   In an effort to further lower the Jay’s bargaining position, Roy Halladay accidentally killed a hooker, burned a Canadian Flag, and said he hates hockey and donuts.

2. Georgie Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:16 pm

   I have to think it’s become an extremely stressful and unpleasant situation for Roy in Seattle. They should do everything they can to find him another team, I just don’t see how they would want him there for another year when he wants out so badly. His attitude, eventually, will affect his pitching and the morale of the entire team.

3. Andrew Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:17 pm

   Aaaaand Brian Schneider is now a Phillie.

4. Georgie Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:19 pm

   *Toronto

5. Georgie Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pm

   I had a message from a friend of a FB friend this am, and he told me I have a mental illness because of my liberal tendencies, so I would welcome someone who also has some head problems.

6. David, the Mets fan from Queens Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pm

   I wonder what you, Phillies fans, think of the Brian Schneider signing? Presuming that Brian passes his physical, the Phillies will have an excellent catching duo of Carlos Ruiz and Brian Schneider. That’s not a bad catching duo to have, at all!

7. Don M Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:26 pm

   SWEET.. Brian Schneider will give Ruiz some much needed rest.. and seems to be a perfect fit for that backup catcher role ..

   I was talking about him last week, but thought he would probably command too much money .. Nice work RUBEN

   …
   I don’t think the Ducheserer? will be a “buy-low” … he’s a guy with lots of talent, and the ability to fill either role on the pitching staff

   I don’t think he’ll be expensive.. but I think that teams that don’t have set payrolls will be looking into him .. I don’t know how we would afford him.. plus a closer-type pitcher, plus a starting 3b .. and keep the payroll under $140

8. Andrew Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:30 pm

   Schneider is a revenge signing. Love it!

9. Don M Says:
   December 1st, 2009 at 12:30 pm

   he already passed his physical.. and already signed the deal

   I like it.. it’s not the greatest move in off-season history.. but its a nice “puzzle-piece” kinda deal

   He fills a role on the team.. much better than Chris Coste or Paul Bako

   weird that the mets took Coste, and let Schneider leave ??? when are they going to fire Omar Minaya?

10. John Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    http://talksportsphilly.com/?p=1077

11. Ed R. Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    I am good with the Schneider signing. A clear upgrade over Coste and Bako. No disrespect to Coste. Hopefully Schneider can add a spark to this team on the days he gets to start.

12. Bob in Bucks Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Schneider always seemed to step up against the Phillies. I presume we are not paying him $4million! I would have preferred a younger guy, he is trending down but he knows the league. Seems the Phillies like the back-up to be older.

13. Lucky Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    I like the Schneider deal alot…Is it me or does it seem like Amaro took a shot at the Mets for signing Coste and turning the tables and signing their catcher? If you ask me I would personally say that the Mets won that trade, cause I would take Coste over Schneider anyday.

14. Pat Gallen Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Hey guys, Schneider post is up if you want to jump over that that thread…

15. Don M Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    Coste over Schnieder ?? really ..

16. Chuck Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Coste over Schneider because it’s an “emotional” pick???……I like Chris Coste a lot…..he’s a great guy and one of those “Phillies for life”…..but PLEASE…..Schneider is an AWESOME pick-up!!…..Kudos to RAJ..

17. Ed 2 Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Amaro seems like the type to take a shot at one of those buy low pitchers. He has Duchscherer, Harden, and Sheets to pick from, I just hope he picks the right one. I wonder why no one sees the injury ridden Harden as a reliever with his high K/9 rate? Picking one of those three and hoping for the best seems like the best way to keep costs down and potentially improve the club. Is Moyer/Kendrick really going to be our 5th starter?

18. Don M Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    It depends on what “buy-low” means … cause Harden and Sheets will probably get $8+ M per year .. that’s not buying low

    It’s high-risk, high-reward

    the risk for Dusch is lower, because he will come cheaper.. but he would probably still get $4 or 5 Million per season I think?

19. beta sigma shag Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    I really do not think Doc will be coming to Philly, first the FO does not work that way, give up a lot for one year of a guy. Second he would be pretty expensive. I do not know that much about Duchscherer, other than I would have a hard time pronouncing his name. I think Park is crazy wanting to start. Does he want to start for Baltimore, Washington, or Pittsburg, or be a key piece out of the pen for a team that has a chance to go to the WS for the third year in a row. It just does not make sense to me. He was pretty good out of the pen for us last year.

20. Lucky Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Yes def Coste over Schneider…Schneider may be the better catcher (BUT not by that much), but Coste has much more power, and much more heart than Schneider. Hats off to the Mets. They got one hell of a guy on their ballclub. It may be an emotional favorite, Im not sure but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Like I said, Im not upset with the signing. Amaro did good here.

21. George Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    Harden and Sheets will command more than Duchscherer, and Harden is a dud because he rarely makes it through the 6th inning. In spite of his tremendous stuff, he’ll strain anyone’s bullpen.

    As 5th starters go, there are options that, though not great pitchers, can at least go 6-7. These “high risk/high reward” types may prove too expensive for the back end of the rotation, particularly if the high risk part of the equation kicks in.

    The only one who might work would be Duchscherer, but even he might cost too much for a number five.

22. Manny Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Poor Jays… at this rate they won’t be getting too much for Halladay…

23. Jeff of Nova Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    I loved Coste, but Schneider is a big upgrade. Those thinking he is a is not are thinking with their hearts not brains. A back up that has such a ridiculously strong knowledge of the NL East hitters is huge.

    Schneider was a Phillies killer glad to have him.
    So my wish list now sits like this for Christmas.

    3B- Beltre

    several low salary relievers that we invite to camp to compete. Signing a reliever cause he had one good year somewhere is not how it works for relievers. We found diamonds in the rough like Durbin, Romero, Condrey,etc.

    Starting pitcher, now we all know Halladay is the best fit here, but seems unlikely unless we are able to get him without giving up, any of the starters we have now or Drabek. If we don’t then a Sheets, or Durchsherer would be a nice option.

    Bench hitters that can hit! I wouldn’t mind seeing Michael Taylor on the bench this year, but noticed that he is not even on the 40 man roster, Quintin Berry is though. I have a feeling that Taylor maybe traded for something we need in the next 3 months.

24. Dylan Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    GET DUKE!

25. jrollpatrol08 Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    jeff,

    yea i agree i want beltre for christmas also. his deal is gonna look like 3yr/24mil is my prediction

    i also like the idea of low salary relievers, especially since these guys always seem to be overpaid to end up playing poorly. from relievers, you never know what ur gonna get. although i wouldnt necessarily consider durbin and condrey to be ‘diamonds in the rough,’ i agree with your overall train of thought. bullpen strength is a necessity but dont need to overspend for a jjputz type that will not be worth a cent

    i dont really see halladay coming here because ruben doesnt want to give up the farm and it would be hard financially to keep him in a 4year extention. i like duchscherer but he is young enough to command a decent salary as far as figures and years. i like him over the sheets, harden who seem to be injured all the time

    the reason taylor isnt onthe roster because he will start out in aa or aaa. you cant just plug hiim in on the bench with the current outfield we have now. he will get more playing time and conditioning at the lower levels and come up mid season maybe

26. George Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    If the Phils sign one of those high risk guys it will be someone like Rodrigo Lopez: really cheap. According to Amaro, they are looking for depth, in case Moyer and Kendrick don’t work out. You just don’t sign a fifth starter for the money Sheets, Harden, and probably even Duchscherer will get, and you certainly don’t pay much for a number 6 or 7.

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