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Buster Olney on 97.3 ESPN FM
Posted by Pat Gallen, Mon, March 15, 2010 03:30 PM
ESPN’s Buster Olney joined The Sports Bash with Mike Gill today to talk about the reported “internal discussions” the Phillies are having regarding Albert Pujols.
Olney says the Phils are talking amongst themselves – and has reiterated that they have not talked to St. Louis – as they figure out if they can pry Albert Pujols away from the Cards for Ryan Howard. The Phillies first baseman is a St. Louis native, but Pujols is their native son, so a trade of this magnitude is unlikely to occur.
Listen to the entire Buster Olney interview: Buster Olney on 97.3 ESPN FM
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March 15th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
you have a better chance of signing Big Brown to a long term deal than Pujols..
so..why trade Ryan..then have Pujols for a year and then have a HUGE hole in the middle of your lineup…
dumb idea. use money and sign Big Brown
March 15th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Sounds like Olney admitting that he’s an idiot…
In other words, the Phillies would never trade Howard to the Cards without an Albert extension in place and the chances of Albert signing an extension are about as remote as them signing me to an extension… it sounds good because Howard would probably love to go to St. Louis and St. Louis would probably love to have him but the Phillies aren’t going to give up Howard without getting a long-term commitment in return. You don’t mess with the chemistry of this team unless you can benefit of the future. Yes, Albert is better than Howard and an even trade would look good on paper for the Phils but when you factor in chemistry and loyalty, you need to keep Howard around if all else is equal. The only way this is considered is if Albert says, “I want to play in Philadelphia… make it happen” and I don’t see that with all the money that’s likely going to be tossed his way when he becomes a free-agent.
March 15th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
..i/m not going to debate Olney’s iq. But the move woud make the Phils the favs over Yanks(10/11) even before Albert’s plane landed in Philly. Let the Redsox spend 250 million on one dude(that get’s banged up a lot). Let the Cards go spend over 120-180mill on Howard( he’s clutch; but Albert makes us unbeatable))…. Our lineup as is continues to be vuln to staffs with 2 good lefties(See 09 WS). Ibanez’s swing seems to get slower by the hour and he’ll be gone after 2011. . Use the saved dough on keeping Werth(and pitching) would be much cheaper to sign to 3-4 yr ext….. An outfield with Brown/Vic/Werth after the 2011 season would be sweet.
March 15th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
….and don’t forget that lidge comes off the books after the 11 season as well(we’ll get a good first baseman even it means moving Pola. to 1st base and getting another 3rd baseman…. Howard gets his dough and (love) from his hometown despite Cards fans inital reaction… Redsox fans gets to finally replace Bip Sloppy and their inferior complex to Yanks recent scc…and the Phils get their 3rd ring in 4 yrs after going back to back… Dynasty tested. Dynasty approved! all while saving tens of million of dollars…. if only the Cards FO brass can be druged…..
March 15th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
howard already makes us unbeatable. he takes the big shots. while he is surrounded with talent i think he’s what got the ball rolling and made us who we are. i was watching this espn special on reggie miller vs. the knicks and patrick ewing actually reminds me of howard. at the final buzzer, he’s the guy you want at the plate and he always makes the most of it.
it was a combo of pedro and lidge that cost us the world series, howard went ice cold but we could have still won with the kind of pitching we had last year. it was a bad year, that turned out to be an amazing year? HK would be proud. howard for president, can’t believe everyone thinks pujols is that much better. i mean raul corner is just asking to be renamed to pujols langing, but check the numbers. Howard bangs just as hard. even when he’s cold.
Now if we could get on track this spring ryan. i know your working on lefties, but dont forget how you shoot against righties.
March 15th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
wait? freddy krouger faced, viagra popping jackie chan won the WS MVP?? one man to blame, whos your daddy! i thought happ deserved a start, and now i wish we ran cliff lee to the ground (3 world series starts) wow bringing up bad memories but we still almost won the god damn series! HOWARD FOR PRESIDENT
March 15th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
..the blame for /09 WS L goes to Charlie. end of story. taking out Happ/Blanton from rotation was nuts. Allowing Pedro to face Matsui in the 6th inn of Game 2;giving Pedro (perdo is still the man) that Game 6 start , leaving Ruiz at the bottom of the order, keeping a one legged Dobbs on the playoff roster over Cairo, no Mayberry(not sure if he was elgb) over Stairs, not changing lineup around…. etc, etc… Charlie has really gotten a free pass on his dec making in WS last yr. Joe Girardi was trying to give that series away with his own wacky moves…
I’m not bashing Howard. I love the dude. I really. But this deal (if of course the Cards brass are interested) would be the greatest trade in decades. How can anybody played up to a 250 million dollar deal. A-Rod finally got them a title(but how long did it take?) Howard bashes, but his toll of unprotective outs(ks) is mind boggling…. and in my op. is not worth 150 mill plus in a lefty heavy lineup.
March 15th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
true. mayberry woulda loved the lights of new york, i still have faith in him. at least FO pulled the trigger on getting rid of everyone charlie couldnt let go. (stairs, bruntlett)
you know i thought the lineup was perfect with shane as a 2 hole, but we won it with werth there. maybe polanco and dropping victorino will give us 100 wins. this is the best team on paper i’ve ever seen in philadelphia. no doubt. buster olney loves to get our attention when spring training isn’t enough. come on april!
March 15th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
go point… the deal will happen…. in our dreams only…
March 15th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
olney is a tool, and exactly what’s wrong with the state of the media in 2010
March 15th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
…I like ponies….
March 15th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
the “internal discussions” were the Phillies saying, if the Cardinals don’t sign Albert Pujols, what kind of package would it take to get him..
Ryan Howard + ??
and on Baseball Tonight.. they pretty much said that any team NOT having discussions about baseball’s best players, then those teams aren’t doing their jobs..
this is a non-story
March 15th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Well, Olney is not really saying much. Amaro could have told Gillick “Hey, how about we trade Howard for Pujols” then both laugh and that would be, technically, internal discussions.
The only way this could be less likely is if Santa Claus was going to be bringing Pujols to town while riding the Easter Bunny. At least we get an interesting debate as to who is the better/most important player for a bit.
March 15th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
I mentioned on the other thread, but in case it isn’t read there….Scott Eyre apparentely hasn’t ruled out pitching. Check out http://www.mlbtraderumors. Hmmmmm…….
March 15th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
You know, it was going to be rough to try to sign Howard long term. Forget it now!
March 15th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Eyre? DO IT!
March 15th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
I agree with Don M, “insider discussions” are what those behind the scenes guys are paid
to do. If they’re not working like mad scientists in a secret lab full of bubbling beakers then I’m not happy with their performance.
There’s an article in the Daily News today about Eyre. He says he hasn’t ruled out coming back, has not “officially” retired, and he’d need about three weeks to be game ready because he’s been pitching BP to his kids…..maybe he’ll show
up in July with Pedro.
March 16th, 2010 at 2:31 am
Hats off to Repeat! who has the brass tacks to point the finger where it belongs as far as the ‘09 series loss; Charlie was apparantly alternately wigging out or sleeping in, in particular but not only with respect to pitching. Okay, no putting Lee in with 3 days’ rest; we’re saving his arm for the post-post season. Fine, don’t take Pedro out, although the close-up shots of him prior to the 6th showed a poster-child for pleading to be pulled. Charlie, it seems the guys love you but were you really directing or reading them right? I find it far from an accident that the manager of a team with three straight division wins and who have been to the series for the second year in a row makes it only to 6th place for NL Manager of the Year.
Would *love* to see Eyre back!
March 16th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Seriously….????…..we’re still pointing fingers about the loss to the Yankees in 2009???
And how about this one….
“I find it far from an accident that the manager of a team with three straight division wins and who have been to the series for the second year in a row makes it to only 6th place for NL Manager of the YEAR.”
First of all, Charlie finished FIFTH…..and Jim Tracy, who won the award, totally deserved it based on the fact that he took over mid-season and helped turn the Rockies around to get them to the playoffs. And look for those Rockies to be a SERIOUS factor again this season.
March 16th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Repeat!’s comments are certainly tiresome, and he should KNOW the exact situation before he passes judgment. Happ was removed from the rotation because he’d shown NOTHING after his late season injury. Blanton did start in the post season. Lee may have been held back on the advice of Dubee. Several players had flu-like symptoms. The bullpen was a shambles, Hamels and Lidge stunk, and no one seemed to have scouted Matsui very well. The Phils lineup had usually worked, and one should ALWAYS go with what has worked, rather than risk taking batters out of their routines.
To blame the series loss solely on Manuel is completely unfair.
March 16th, 2010 at 10:22 am
A lot went wrong in the series wich caused the phils to lose and its very difficult to get over considering we were two wins shy of a repeat. In game four when Damon gets a hit and we decide to put the shift on for texiera nobody decides to go to the mound and remind someone to cover third base if damon steals. It is absolutly inexcusable considering the yanks where out to the mound repeatedly. what hurts more is at the time hughes was warming up to pitch the ninth and in game five we lit him up. That decision is on charlie.
March 16th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
I wonder if “Bluster” Buster Olney is getting the idea of “internal discussions” from “unidentified sources”.
March 16th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Tiresome?? Ha! Blanton was moved back and forth….Rockies… And what was Hamels’s showing Charlie?? Lee was rocked in the starts he had towards the end of the regular season… He basically tried himself out trying to make a good 1st impression…. How did he do in the playoffs?? No one sad Chuck was the only reason… But he is the manager… Also see 2007 playoffs… He bleeped up handling the pitching staff then as well… He can’t manage ptch staffs very well. 2008? He really didn’t have to do very much…..Everything was perfectly in place…. He also blew out Myers late in the season… That’s why the dec to trade Lee makes even less sense…
March 16th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Sorry, 5th place for Manuel. And definitely not taking anything away from Jim Tracy, who did a great job. A great manager makes teams better than expected, and that is who rightly gets voted for for manager of the year. I do see the Rockies as a force this year. And the Cards. And the Braves. It’s not that the loss was *solely* Charlie’s fault, but I just wasn’t around to participate in threads just after the series and I hadn’t seen anyone since mention some of his decision-making as a big factor in the loss, which I still think is significant. He’s been lucky to have the guys he’s had the past couple years, I’ll say that. Again, older news, but did anyone catch the segment on MLB network over the winter where they interviewed Ruben and Charlie regarding the Lee trade primarily, and you could cut the tension with a knife (neither would look at the other), part of me thinks Charlie was just peeved that he wouldn’t have Halladay/Lee and the Phils could essentially go on autopilot to the WS with a little less managerial manipulation needed where pitching is concerned (the bullpen is still our weakest link). But yeah, ’09 is old history and I think we’ve all gotten over it, just couldn’t resist when I saw Repeat!’s post.
Now, finally, up to read the latest from the rumor mill..
March 16th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I think you’re reading too much into that interview, philsgirl….
That’s just Charlie’s style….to not always look directly at people. And ANY manager would have loved to have had that combination in his rotation.
I think Charlie is VERY happy with what he has right now.
March 16th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Well, bullpen worries aside, I would have to agree with you about *any* manager being happy about having the talent and chemistry we have now, even if it could have been better.