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56 Responses to “Howard/Pujols Not Just Another Trade Rumor”

1. Havoc Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 9:53 am

   It might not be as absurd as it’s being painted, but I don’t think it makes a ton of sense for the Phils. Setting aside the clubhouse impact that Howard has been. If we look at this from a financial standpoint the Phils are going to have a tough time resigning Howard to an extension. He’ll probably be in line to make a minimum of 150-175 on this next contract, but Pujols is going to be in line to make even more. Financially if it’s going to be hard to afford Howard it will be all but impossible for Pujols.

   Plus i’m going to keep dreaming that Howard will cut the Phils a discount.

2. Maverick Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 10:11 am

   I don’t know why so many people are dismissing this as a pipe dream. The Lee/Halladay deal is a clear indication that this GM is not afraid to make power moves! Do I think this will happen. No. but I wouldn’t be shocked if it did.

3. Chris.I Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 10:35 am

   Logically this doesn’t make sense for the Phillies…They aren’t even sure how, or if they can even afford Howard after 2011, so what makes them think they can afford to keep Pujols? Or maybe the Phils realize that they wont be able to retain either player once their contracts expire, and just feel more comfortable having Pujols in the lineup for the next 2 seasons rather than Howard…Personally even though some may say Pujols is better (Which may be true by a small margin) I would still rather keep Howard. Either way this will ”never” happen (atleast not this season)

4. Chris L Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 10:40 am

   As has been discussed on this website well before the rumors came out, Pat is right that it could happen – just not a big chance. No team wants to trade their biggest star and finances sometimes force them. And if you are forced to trade them or lose them to FA (like the Cards might be next year) then shouldn’t you try to get something back?

   The cards need two things if they lose AP: a corner infielder and a power bat. That’s on top of the bullpen help and left handed power they are looking for now. They may not trade Ap for Howard straight up but that would be the logical starting point both financially and positionally. While Howard won’t be cheap, longterm there’s no way he can ask for the amount that AP will. Plus he doesn’t have the leverage for a longterm deal (7+ years) that AP does. They would need more though – so if this is discussed next summer (and that would be the earliest) look for Raul, Rollins or (I hope not) Brown to leave town too.
   And yes, both sides would want a gaurenteed extension before signing off.

   This may seem ludicrous now but wouldn’t a smart GM (like Gillick) use a “rumor” to set the ground work for a huge trade later. Now, without an official offer, the Cards at least have the idea in the back of their minds in case negoitiations so South……..What better way to ease the pain of losing AP than bringing in a hometown son who thrives at Busch and balances your lineup. If nothing else, it keeps AP and RH away from BOS and NYY which in some small way placates lots of fans.

5. Jim Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 10:45 am

   The cardinals would need A LOT in order to move pujols. I mean we would have to lose howard and probably another core player like hamels in order to secure the deal not to mention the prospects involved.

   STILL- it might be worth it. pujols is definetly the best hitter in the game and would really solidify our line up. dont think for a minute that the cards wouldnt move pujols for the right price. the price just has to be high enough

6. The Original Chuck P Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 11:04 am

   I think that Chris L is on the right path. In my opinion, this is posturing more than anything else… maybe Ryan Howard can be had down the road. Maybe the Cardinals are just searching for a way to save face when Albert walks. You throw a few lines out there and see who bites. I’m sure that the Phillies would love to negotiate with Albert before free agency hits (who wouldn’t?). Ultimately, the Cardinals have not been able to reach any sort of agreement with Albert… Pujols is not even the highest paid player on his team… he’s a “bargain” and I’m sure that doesn’t sit well with him. In my opinion, the writing is one wall… so he’s not interested in Cardinals offers but maybe, just maybe, he’ll be willing to listen to what the Phillies have to say… they do have the best pitcher in baseball, the best second baseman in baseball and arguably the best shortstop in baseball. Further, I’m sure that he would be licking his chops thinking about how many home runs he could hit at CBP. The Yankees don’t really need a first baseman so the Phillies can be a player in the Pujols sweepstakes… if they’re not really interested, at least it puts it out there to the Red Sox that they are willing to be creative (so that they don’t think they’re the only big market team fishing in that pond).

   Look, I said this yesterday… you’d be crazy not to pick Pujols as the better player (over Howard) and if I could have either one of them long-term, it’s Pujols BUT if it comes down to trading one year of Howard and prospects for one year of Pujols, I’m keeping Howard… if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Chemistry is very underestimated… I’m thinking that this rumor is not so much about the here and now as it is about what could happen down the road.

7. Matt Kwasiborski Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 11:14 am

   Accordingly to Olney, who is a very respected reporter and isn’t into breaking stories just for publicity, the Phils have had internal discussions about the deal. So, someone from within the organization is leaking this info. Why the Phils would consider this deal:
   1. Have come to the conclusion that they will let Howard walk. Ownership probably has given them a projected payroll for 2012.
   2. Offer Howard straight up for Puljos who is a RH bat to our lineup for the next few years. Puljos brings power and a higher OBP and AVG than Howard.
   3. Let Puljos walk, since they wouldn’t re-sign Howard.
   4. The Cards figure they have a better shot at resigning Howard, a hometown boy, than they do Puljos. And Howard would command less than Puljos on the open market simply because he is a better player.

   This is why the Phils are discussing this option. If they are going to let their big time bat go, might as well upgrade then.

   On a side note- ESPN really seems to be pressing their reporters to break stories as fast as possible lately. I respect Olney alot but it seems as though he has only one source for this story. I cannot imagine two members of the Phils management team leaking this info.

8. The Original Chuck P Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 11:18 am

   I don’t know how much Pujols is worth via trade by himself… he’s owed $15+ million and he’s only under contract until 2012 so there are only a couple of situations that fit. Adding Pujols and subtracting whatever is required to obtain him would have to net a legitimate championship contender or the negotiation would have to include a long-term assurance (an extension). So that leaves two questions… how many teams think that they’re a Pujols away from a championship? How many teams would he negotiate an extension with prior to any trade? The answer… not many.

9. TwoTonsOfIrony Says:
   March 16th, 2010 at 11:43 am

   From the Phillies side, the reason this deal gets done is beacuse they know they cannot sign Howard. So they would rather have Pujols for two years than they would Howard. For anyone to say that Pujols for 2 years vs Howard for two years is not a good deal is a homer and there is no other way to put it. Howard has the chance to be the greatest power hitter ever. Pujols has the chance to be the greatest hitter ever.

   Here is his stat line if I take his worst year between 2001-present for each stat.

   BA: .314
   RBI: 103
   OBP: .394
   SLG: .561
   OPS: .955
   Runs: 99
   HR: 32
   SO: 69

   That’s HoF, and that’s cherry picking his worst stats from a 10 year career. I’ll take two years of Pujols over two years of Howard any day.

10. Don M Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    The reason this doesn’t make sense is that the Cardinals arent going to trade the best player in baseball.. for less talented player, making similar money

    Do I believe the Phillies had “internal discussions” .. YES

    But I also believe that they probably still talk about ARod, Lincecum, Matt Cain, .. they probably check in on Brandon Webb, Zack Greinke, etc..

    because that is part of baseball . . .

    Buster Olney was having a slow day… and created a news story out of something that he knew would never, ever happen. He could have reported this same story about EVERY team in baseball… I’m pretty sure the Yankees, Mets, RedSox, etc… all talk about Albert Pujols everyday.

    this whole thing just got blown out of the water.. the Cardinals would never do it

11. BurrGundy Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    Overall, the trade does not make sense unless the Phils add something. Or, both Pujols and the Phils agree to a deal that is extended beyond the current one. Both teams need to benefit and I do not see the Cards benefitting that much unless we sweeten the pot considerably. Maybe we add Moyer (just kidding).

12. Pat Gallen Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    Don M, I agree, the Cardinals won’t do it. But it’s not some far fetched trade that you would come up with in a video game or fantasy baseball. Howard is inferior of course, but it’s not like we want to send Ibanez for Pujols.

13. Repeat! Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    Great article Pat. I’d tried to tell’em this yesterday…. The move(.0001% of happn) would be a stroke of genius by the Phils and the Cards. Let’em go get his 250 mil from the Sox, Yanks(as a DH) or anyone else…

14. Manny Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    I think it would make sense for the Phillies because for 25 million (offering a contract to Pujols) you would get the best RH bat in baseball, letting him bat 4th behind Utley. You then lose the need for Werth –no need to resign him now with lefty Brown debuting in 2011…

    So the Phillies would actually save money by trading Howard… Resigning Pujols at 25 M per year is cheaper than resigning both Howard at 20 M per year AND Werth at 13 M per year.

    Anway, I don’t know why the Cardinals would trade away Pujols in any scenario… They are righty-heavy, so Howard would be a welcome addition, but I always thought they signed Matt Holliday as part of a bigger scheme to keep Pujols in the long-run…

15. Bruce Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    I agreed with Don M except I don’t see any evidence of “internal discussion” from the Phillies organization. I DO think it was an irresponsible rumor created by “unidentified sources”. Plus there are writers of tabloids fanning the rumor and “blown out of the water”. The rumor was not simply denied but rightly ridiculed by both team officials and players involved. Let’s face it, you will have guillible fans who loves to dole on rumors. After all, it’s that time of year and baseball fantasy begins anew.

    Here is a quote by Albert Pujols..”There’s people, stupid, that like to write something when it’s not the truth, and that’s all I have to say about that,” he told reporters. “If I’m getting traded, they need to come to me. That’s not my job to go to them. I’ve been saying all along I want to be here, but whatever, it’s not up to me. I just think somebody tried to be funny, but it’s so stupid when somebody takes something like that serious.” Right on!

16. Don M Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Right, Pat.. no blame on you guys.. its just amazing to me how the media took this story and ran with it . All the talk radio shows trying their hardest to get callers… all the blogs running stories on it.

    It just really wouldn’t ever happen.. If the Cardinals ever let Pujols go, it would be for the simple fact that they didn’t think they could afford him. Howard thinks he’s worth about the same, so its not like there is any match there

    …
    The pitching equivalent of this move would be like Cole Hamels, for Tim Lincecum . . .

    and our theory being that Cole Hamels is from California

17. Don M Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Yea, the fact that this made its way to both players and stuff.. THAT is the joke

    Buster Olney, wouldn’t name his source, because he would lose an inside to the Phillies . . . and that source would probably get fired

    But in all honesty, every team talks about every good player… and what it would cost to aquire him. That is how you can measure where you stand, what you need, how much to offer Free Agents, etc..

    I don’t know who gets the most blame for this story, but really the fact that reporters went to Howard and Pujols for comments… is ridiculous

18. Matt Kwasiborski Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    The deal ultimately becomes cheaper for the Cards in the long run. They realize Puljos will demand and probably get a ridiculous contract. I mean his stats are easily HOF material. Howard is brought up only as a potential HOF candidate at this point in his career. Therefore, he will cost less to the Cards than Puljos will. For the Phils or ANYONE in baseball, who would you rather have for the next 2 years: Howard or Puljos? I would bet Albert’s next contract the overwhelming majority would be Puljos. So, the Phils know this nucleus has another solid 2-3 year run in them before they begin rebuilding and probably won’t match either Howard’s or Puljos’s demands.

19. psujoe Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    One thing I don’t see being talked about is the fact that Howard, Pujols and Gonzalez all become FA’s in 2011. Not sure how, but the fact that all 3 of them may be on the market at the same time complicates things, doesn’t it?

20. psujoe Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    After 2011, sorry.

21. Chuck Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    I will give Olney credit for one thing….and that’s that he made sure he talked to Amaro BEFORE writing the story….

    He was on 97.5 The Fanatic yesterday and made it clear that Amaro said that this was all “lies” …..and so Olney reported what Ruben said..

    Other than that….this whole thing is a joke.

    But Don’s right…..teams talk about their players ALL THE TIME…..if they didn’t they wouldn’t be doing their proper due diligence.

22. Manny Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    Don’t forget Prince Fielder, psujoe! As of today, it’ll be FOUR elite first-basemen hitting FA…

23. Chuck Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Supply and demand….

    ..and with prices hopefully easing off a bit…..one would think that teams will be mor ein the driver’s seat with signing these guys.

24. Johnny Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    If the Phils were offered such a deal, I think they’d punce on it. That said, I don’t think the Cards would ever dream of dealing Pujols.

25. Heather Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    Chuck, you raise a good point about supply and demand. I am curious to see what happens next year when (if) all these good 1st Basemen hit free agency and the Yanks are out of the running due to Tex’s contract. Pujols will get a monster contract of course, but I wonder if Howard/Fielder/A-Gon all competing (there might be more, but those are the ones I know) will drive prices down to more “reasonable” levels.

    Personally I would think a 5 yr/$100 mil contract for Howard would be more than fair, but I think he’s probably wanting more than that. Just will be interesting to see where the prices are next year.

26. Philly Texan Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    This is a total non-story.

    No way the Cards deal Pujols any time soon, if ever.

    Just some fun spring training banter with little basis in reality. I’m sure teams like the Phillies have internal discussions about all kinds of scenarios. It can’t really be a rumor until they talk to the OTHER TEAM!

    I mean, our team must really be stacked if the FO is spending time on far-out trade fantasies like this. Most years we’re scouring the waiver wire for more pitching…..

27. philsgirl Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Hey, what forethought from the FO, maybe we got Aumont/Gillies/Ramirez so we could throw ‘em in a trade with Howard for Pujols down the road.
    Just kidding.
    As Pat says, we’re one of the franchises that have the resources right now to make the big moves. Even if it’s a rumor blown out of proportion, I give what Amaro says publicly zero weight, since he said about the Halladay trade just before it was done it was “out of the question.” But right now, I agree this whole Howard for Pujols thing is just posturing. A one-for-one deal would really have to be out of the question from the Cards point of view, and not long ago, we were all discussing how we could retain both Howard and Werth, and now to suggest *both* for Pujols? Hopefully it’s way too early for this to be anything resembling serious talk. Although the post-2011 1st base FA would be really interesting with all those guys on the market..

28. philsgirl Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Make that *2011* 1st base FA

29. shag beta sigma delta Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    OK so most of you have spent the afternoon discussing a trade that almost all of you see having little to no chance happening, what fun.
    Has anyone heard about PP knee is it just sprained or will he be out for a while, you know news about something that might matter.

30. Don M Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Dear Lord,

    Please speed up the rest of Spring Training, so that we have actual things to talk about.

    Amen

31. Ashton Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    This nothing more than a cheap stunt for Buster Olney to get his name back in the reports. Its so annoying, I didnt get all the facts that morning and almost swerved off the road. Howard is Philadelphia split the Utley/Howard leadership the whole team would start coming undone. This whole rumor just gives me a headache

32. Chris.I Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    Shag Beta,
    Polanco is fine and expected to be back on Friday

33. philsgirl Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Last I read, as of about an hour ago, “Polanco was examined by the Pirates medical staff, which told him there was a sprain in the back of the knee as well as a slight hyperextension of the upper calf. Polanco said he could return by the end of the week.” I haven’t heard of any formal MRI results or anything more definitive so hopefully it’s not serious..

    Hey, Don M., I was so far behind on catching up on articles and happenings, I had a Q for you way back on the evil Beerman Lee trade thread. Purely philosophical. It’s of course the last post b/c it was a week after all the others. I’d rather not pull it up to this thread since apparently even commenting on the current article is getting old, but if you ever get a chance, can you climb down there? It was bugging me.

    And season to start soon, thank goodness!

34. Don M Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    philsgirl . . .

    I’ve said before (actually dating back probably 2-3 years at this point).. one of the greatest things about baseball is that “what-if” that most/many teams have at the beginning of the year

    right now, there are probably 10 teams with a legit chance to win the World Series

    and while I understand that keeping C*L* would’ve greatly improved our chances for THIS year. . . it would’ve lessened our chances in future seasons.

    No matter what decision they made, I would’ve supported it obviously, but I really, honestly, have complete faith is the managers, coaches, scouts, front office, etc.. that run the Phillies organization now… the past 5 years is the best stretch of Phillies baseball that I’ve ever seen. And while winning another World Series would be amazing, it would lose a lot of appeal if the Phillies were to become bottom-feeders in the NL East again

    They tried to trade a player the knew they would lose anyway.. and get value in return. Maybe Aumont won’t be a Cy Young winning pitcher, but I would imagine that by 2012, he’s on the big league roster, helping us win games… Tyson Gillies has a drive that reminds people of Victorino… between him, and Gose.. we should have legit OF options that don’t cost a lot of money

    Which would allow us to offer extension to Howard, Hamels, Rollins, Utley, etc..

    There really isn’t a right or wrong answer.. but I understand that the Phillies made this move, to attempt to give us the best of both worlds.. a legit shot to win THIS year, and have nice prospects that they think will help us contend in the near future too

35. NateB Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Pujols is much better than Howard in all aspects of the game. For the Cards to even consider this you’d have to add Werth to the deal and get both Howard and Werth to agree to hometown-discounted extensions. Then it would make sense for them.

36. Matt Kwasiborski Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    If this trade happens it is purely going to be done for financial reasons. Therefore, there is no need for the Phils to offer anyone else in the deal. Again, if the Cards do trade Albert it is because they feel they have a better chance of signing the hometown guy in Howard and probably could sign him cheaper than Albert because Howard is the man, but Albert is a sure fire HOFer at this point in time.

37. Don M Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    “If this trade happens”

    there is ZERO chance this gets done… it was Buster Olney playing whisper down the lane, to attract people to his blog . . . its a non story, and it has no chance of happening

38. Chuck Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    “If this trade happens”

    Again, let’s just be clear….THIS TRADE IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

    This was really just “tire-kicking”. That’s it. Teams do this all the time….ask about this player or that player.

    Can we just let this rest now? There are far more important things to worry about.

39. Chuck Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    WHAT “pray tell” is that website of yours? Interesting “mix” of articles.

40. mikemike Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    wow four elite first basemen hit the market pujois i believe goes to angles howard to boston or newyork mets, gongalez to either boston or newyork and fielder goes to some off the wall team like cubs

41. mikemike Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    One thing I keep hearing is howards father wants 25 million and up a year, no discount he is advising his son. I really don’t know if the phillies will give him that kind of money for any length of time. I think they would do a three year deal at howard age with a 4th year option, but i believe howard camp looking for 7 or 8 at 25 million a year. just my opinion hope i am wrong.

42. psujoe Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Speaking of Hamels. Solid outing today. 5 innings, 2 hits 4 K’s 0 bbs. No way I trade Howard and Hamels.

43. philsgirl Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Thanks for responding Don M., I definitely get your point, and the bottom line is, of course, there is no right or wrong answer because you can’t forsee the future, there’re just maybe better or worse moves given one’s goal, and “going all out” when you’ve got your best shot is just one goal. I actually was just wondering why you thought a recent WS win should change that philosophy. If I had a choice, I’d rather win one more time and go back to having a decent chance to get to the post-season and continue to rebuild, than get into the post-season, even deep, and lose for the next 2 or 3 years. But that’s just me.

    While we’re killing time on this thread, I heard Lee got ejected after a bench-clearing incident in the 3rd inning at the D-backs spring training game yesterday, after allegedly throwing at batter Chris Snyder, the Arizona catcher who knocked him down in the 1st inning at a play at the plate. Gettin’ into it early. Lee said the pitches got away from him. Sure.

    And OMG, please not Howard to the Mets, mikemike!

44. psujoe Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    If Howard wants 25 per for at least 5 I’d make darn sure I sign werth and do it soon. No way the Phils wil commit $125 million.

45. Chuck Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Howard $25 M/ 5 years????…….Let him walk.

    And, yeah, maybe turn the focus to Werth if possible. Problem is….will HE also want ridiculous money?? I’m glad Brown is having a good Spring….even if it is just S.T.

    Again, though…..at least with the first basemen that are hitting the market in 2012…..as I said earlier….SUPPLY AND DEMAND. That’s a lot of premiere first basemen (4) coming on the market at once. Teams will have some leverage I would think.

46. psujoe Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    I agree Chuck. I wouldn’t mind Gonzalez in Philly if it was a cheaper option than Howard. The 2011 playoff run will determine a lot. Those teams out of it will like the Padres will trade their guy for prospects. probably the same for the Brewers as well.

47. joker24 Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    From a Cardinals fan: there is a 0.0% chance this happens. Zero, none, nilch, nada. If anyone is giving this a chance of happening, then you probably think there’s a chance everyone starts calling your steak sandwiches the St. Louie Cheesesteak.

48. Scott Tully Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Howard and Werth for pujols

    Dom brown plays right field, were fine. and can resign pujols and not worry about having an utley-howard-werth type of lineup next year. That type of deal shouldnt send ST. Louis into revolt, and id be happy with it as well.

49. Jeff Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    THE DISPY IS SHORT FOR DIP, WHOOPS SORRY. Polanco was hurt because he is about 40 some years old. Good job JR.

50. mikemike Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Pujols or Gonzalez I wonder which one of them sets the market? Boston will be hot after either one of those i really believe, and the mets too will be in there on all four of those guys, cubs rangers and angels have to be in on it too, could be near a record for a player if alex gonzalez gets 25 pujois is worth more in my opinion

51. Jeff of Nova Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Well all this rumor does is fill the time till Opening Day.

    Should be interesting to see the next year and come back to this if it does happen

52. George Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if those four elite first basemen becomes one elite first basemen by the end of 2011. Pujols and Fielder may still sign extensions, and Gonzales will be traded and possibly get a huge extension with a better club, probably Boston.

    That leaves only Howard. He might really cost a lot then!

53. philsgirl Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Looks like keeping both Howard and Werth is almost certainly a pipe dream..

54. philliesfan46 Says:
    March 19th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    I would trade Howard and Hamels for Pujols and a frist round draft choice. Howard gets to play with his hometown team. The Philles get rid of Homerun Hamels who is and will be nothing but problems in the future. Pujols is about six months younger that it nake that much difference. But the big thing is Pujols’s life time Batting ave, slugging percent and on base percentge are all better than Howards. Pujols adds right handed hitting to The Phillies line. Either way both clubs are looking at big salary increase for Hhoward Pujols and Hamels. The phillies could pay Pujols his big bucks and save money because they for gotten rid of homerun Hamels. The cards with howard would be paying big money to a hometwon boy. But some of the big bucks being paid to Howard maybe could be made up by increased tacket sales that would happen because of fans coming to see a Hometown Hero.

    Besides all of this we Would not have to watch Pujols strike out as much as Howard which means By Pujols puting the ball in paly more there their is more chance he will make something postive happen rather than going down swinging as like Howard does.

    Their is also a chance the If the Phillies get Pujols we could finely see a triple crown winner in Philadelphila I like Howard and what ever happens I wish him the best of Luck.

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