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2. Glutenous Says:
   July 30th, 2010 at 5:06 am

   Quite the turn of events.. we got away with highway robbery on this one. Glad the new server is in place. Looking forward to the rest of the season. GO PHIGHTINS.

3. Kate Says:
   July 30th, 2010 at 6:04 am

   Doesn’t going back to the WS in 2009 merit a mention?

   Oh, right, they didn’t win, so it doesn’t really count. /sarcasm

   I enjoyed the game at the Bank last night for a number of reasons. Sure, I would’ve liked to get home a bit earlier, but there’s nothing like a walk-off win in extra innings.

   Two guys I’ve been defending all season (Ibanez and Lidge) came out and produced in a big way. Ibanez homered and got on base and Lidge had himself a pretty sweet 1-2-3 inning.

   Not that I ever had a doubt, but I think we’re headed back to the post-season.

4. Lefty Says:
   July 30th, 2010 at 6:49 am

   Roy, Roy, and next year D Brown will be R.O.Y.

   Okay, Okay, I threw RAJ under the bus last week. I no longer want to trade him for a hot dog vendor. He’s climbed out from under that bus and despite EMS response, came out just fine. I wish he could have pulled off Matt Capps too, but what was the chance the Natinals would trade him to a division team anyway?

   Nice recovery RAJ!! If we can get any help from the bullpen (Hopefully, Lidge has been energized by his old teammate joining him) we’ve got a real chance to do what no National league team has done in a very, very long time!

5. BrewTown PhilsPhan Says:
   July 30th, 2010 at 7:12 am

   Roy, Roy, and King Cole…

   …We Three Kings?

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7. Brian Sr. of CO Says:
   July 30th, 2010 at 7:29 am

   I hope Roy Story 2 works out, he is amongst the best in the league in the 2nd have of the season almost every year, but I will miss J.A. Happ. I was hoping he would be with us for a long time. I even bought the signed Rookie baseball. Oh well. Lets go Phils!

8. Brooks Says:
   July 30th, 2010 at 7:56 am

   This has been an amazing series of events and we all are right in the middle of it – way cool.

   Kate, I was there to with Keith. Disappointed not to see D Brown other than a PH opp, the sight of seeing vintage Lidge, Ransom getting some key hits and Chooch being Chooch — great stuff. Side note, Ryan once again was 0 for, this time 0 for 5. JW was 0 for 5 with 3 k’s, looking like he did pretty much 2 weeks ago. When you see a W and 12 hits on the board, you’ll normally assume that at least 1 or 2 belong to our big men.

   Last night, it was pretty much hitters 6, 7 & 8 with 7 hits and 2 rbi. Good to see, yes, it was the D’Backs but we all know how the Phils have played ‘up to their competition’ this year. A win, a huge win.

   Is Jimmy still slated to return vs the Nats this weekend?

9. The Dipsy Says:
   July 30th, 2010 at 8:09 am

   As I mentioned prior, because I would like everyone to know, the Astros HAD to trade Oswalt and that’s why RAJ took Wade (so glad he’s still in baseball with another team) to the proverbial cleaners. And you give us 11m? Thats just hysterical. Of course, I’ve been around long enough to know that trades that look to good to be true usually are. So that scares me. I wish JA well. Ruben has really done well with this. We now have a #1 at 8m a year for a a year and two months as opposed to committing to a guy that is only marginally better, but someone we all love (Cliff), for 5 years 100m+. Pretty nimble. I know this was not Ruben’s master plan but that is the sum and substance of his moves. Go Phils. I think we get Downs before it al over.

   The Dipsy

10. "PHILLYBOY" Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:20 am

    PHILLY FANS-WE HAVE ROY FREAKING OSWALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11. Brooks Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:34 am

    I am hoping that with all the cheese being passed around, somewhere in this mix with all the trades, upgrades, terrific hopes we have now – evidence supplied by Corey that at this point in the season, our record is better than it has been in the last 4 years – somewhere, somehow – the name Cliff Lee will be dropped from the all time whiners list – of course if Roy Story 2 does not work out (injured back, whatever…) the matter will be brought up again.. Until the worst happens (if it does), can we just stop?!?!?!?

12. Lewisauce Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:36 am

    This wasn’t a trade. It was an exorcism of Cliff Lee’s ghost.

    I’m not complaining, and yes, we took Wade to the cleaners. (With the money and years, this deal was better than any of us anticipated.)

    But I can’t shake the feeling that our rotation was at its best for about four hours over the winter, and that the current rotation doesn’t equal that one.

13. Dennis Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:37 am

    Wow, 3 aces! Things have definitely turned around in the last week or so, remember back when everyone was debating whether to sell or buy at the deadline? The bigger question that always will pop into the equation…. Does this deal make up for trading away Cliff?

14. Brooks Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:42 am

    I heard Jimmy is still questionable for tonight’s game – anyone hear different?

15. Bacardipr05 Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:43 am

    The way i see this trade we traded a young future All-Star pitcher and sold the Astros 2 prospects. It sounds like a win for us on the surface and maybe for this year it is. Next year when Happ goes 19-6 with a 3.10 Era while makin a 1/4 of the salary and controlled for the Astros for 3 years then the balance will shit to the Astros. Blue Jays wanted Gose like a fat chick wants a piece of chocolate. So you have to wonder of his potential.

16. Bacardipr05 Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    oops have a mispelling feel free to edit.

17. Brooks Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:52 am

    Just your logic Bacardipr05 – are you implying that Happ will someday become an AS pitcher, or win 19 games? I’ll play poker with you bud.

18. Psujoe Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am

    I actually think it was a good trade for both teams. Astros flipped gose for Wallace who will start at first base. Now the Astros can dump Berkman. Happ is a pretty good, inexpensive starter. It will be interesting to see how Happ and Oswalt perform in 2010-2011.

19. Dennis Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:05 am

    Happ is not winning 19 games…..

20. NickFromGermantown Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    I have to say, whatever you think about Amaro’s skill at signing free agents and drafting extensions, he has displayed a pretty good acumen at making trades. Although I hate that Cliff Lee isn’t here, the deal to bring him here, then the deal to add more certainty to the future by bringing in Halladay on good financial terms, and now to bringing in Oswalt has been quite good. It’s gotten the fans engaged. That’s key really at this point too and may be overlooked. The Phillies need to keep selling tickets!

21. The Dipsy Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Happ will be Ted Lilly. Which is a nice career.

    The Dipsy

22. Manny Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Crazy turn of events, indeed. I did call for a Phillies WS appearance in 2008 when we were playing the Red Sox (June 08?).

    Great to see that the server is back. I was anxious to read and post comments regarding yesterday’s trade for Roy Oswalt.

    Basically, I agree with the consensus that we STOLE this guy from the Astros. Hopefully he’s durable and his injuries won’t come back, because when this guy is on, beware. I’m very sad to see one of my favorites, Happ, go in this deal.. but this was a very, very favorable deal for the Phillies… and even for the Astros cause they ended up getting Wallace (what the hell was the Jays GM smoking to swap Wallace for Gose!!! ESPECIALLY after they had already swapped Taylor for Wallace in the offseason!! Why not just keep Taylor?)

    Guys, 2.5 games back in the division!!!!
    H2O!

23. Philly Texan Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    This is just a tremendous trade!

    Happ is a nice pitcher. I’ve always liked him. 10-12 game winner for sure. I do worry about Happ staying healthy. He’s had two trips to the DL in two years—which is more the Oswalt. And he seems to have developed some control problems lately.

    Amaro deserves a ton of credit. Oswalt may not be as good as Lee, but I’d rather have Oswalt for 2-3 years than Cliff Lee for one.

    Right now the bullpen is the key to this team. If they can pull it together—and Lidge did look good last night—then we could be in for another special season.

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25. Manny Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Also, for those who watched last night’s game: Brad Lidge looked pretty damn sharp. He’s so much better when he’s rested. Take note, Charlie.

26. NJ Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    This is a tremendous trade much because of what we didn’t have to give up to make the deal.

    Happ is a very nice even-keeled pitcher you need in your rotation for such a long season but the Phils have that in Blanton. Gose could be an impact player as Toronto view him as… But the Phillies acquired Gillies who could be even better at the major league level. We don’t have the guarantee that option and get enough salary relief to make Oswalt a very affordable pitcher and make that option seem less hefty if we do pick it up. We didn’t have to give up Worley or Singleton or any prospect who could have helped the Phils in the near future.

    Oh and we get an absolute stud that you can go blow for blow with any team in the majors in a play-off series and Cole Hamels becomes the best 3rd starter in the play-offs by an absolute mile… Oh and we go into the following year with that and your innings eater and a ton of versatile options for the 5…

    RAJ and his guys have completely overhauled the Phillies beginning with that Lee trade to turn us into a legitimate top team capable of being one for years.

27. NJ Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Oh I’d expect Lidge to be a hell of a lot more comfortable with Oswalt back next to him and a ring on his finger… We may have just addressed our closer situation.

28. Bacardipr05 Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Yea its just the way im seen it Brooks…everyone sees it different…

29. Geoff Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Oh man, I still cannot believe how badly RAJ fleeced the Astros, that is just outrageous. Amaro is a very good GM when he zeroes in on one particular player.

    Our projected three-man playoff rotation is now officially ridiculous. The Braves are scared, the rest of the Wild Card teams are scared, we will be back in the playoffs.

    I think we will get an infield player who can hit fairly well and play several positions as cover for our injured infielders. That seems an obvious move. Maybe they will get some bullpen help. But I think they will likely prioritize some injury cover for their infield.

30. Bacardipr05 Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Ps…Nj says not so fast with Lidge..he had one good outing on a not so good team…

31. NJ Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Bacardipr05- I know, I’m just optimistic as I think Lidge obviously can still get the job done if the peripherals aren’t hanging over him every time he takes the mound.

32. The Dipsy Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Ruben just did an amazing job. Gose, who has about 100 steals along with being caught 75 times, and Villar, who I gotta say, for A ball he looked pretty good. Gose can’t hit. My lord. An, oh, I almost forgot. We got 11m, too. Yeeeeee-haaaaaaaa. Its just like, as soon as Ed Wade starts to run a team, players just wanna start getting out.

    Brian, Is the server fixed for good now? We need the Nation now more than ever.

    The Dipsy

33. Jeff Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Peter Gammons said both owners spent one hour finishing this up. GREAT JOB. I like many phillies fans killed this team for getting rid of Lee. I fell in love with Cliff while he was here. Like when your girlfriend breaks up with you. Then you one move on to the next. Like we just did. I have been a huge fan of Oswalt forever. Leads the league in k’s since 01. This guy knows how to win and is a great pitcher. Just on a bad team. Give him a few runs and see what happens. Just knowing you have these three guys going into any series makes us a favorite. Watching Doc pitch is like watching a surgeon. He is just that good. not good that GREAT. You give doc a few runs and you will not lose. Also, watching Brown the other night was one of the most exciting games. He is so much fun to watch. I cant wait to see him again. I almost would rather trade victorino away. Sign Werth and move him to center. Raul seems to be coming out at the right time. Stick Brown in right. Just to see, Utley, Howard, Ibanez, Werth, Brown. WOW.

34. Manny Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Good thing we didn’t release Raul as was suggested on this site, amirite?

35. Bart Shart Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    I missed not having Nation up and running. Are we cool now with it being fixed? Thanks and welcome back.

36. Philly Texan Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    Manny,
    Good point. Nice to hear those Rauuuuul! chants after big hits again.

    I admit I was really down on Ibanez. I thought he was done. But he’s starting to hit. In fact, his whole month of July has been very, very good. I hope this means he’s finally healthy. If Ibanez can keep this up, the offense will be scary good when Chase gets back in there.

    Credit to Raul for grinding through a terrible first half. He’s incredibly hard worker and class act.

37. steve Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    RoyStory2!

38. MysteryMet Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    I am going to root for the Phills to win the division this year, cuz it will teach the Mets a thing or two, too go out and try to get the best players available wheither it be free agency, or trade, but the Mets are so damn cheap, and hold every single minor leaguer high on a pedestal, as if their going to be the next big thing, that they will continue to lose till they get a new GM. Good job Phillies, and fans at least you have a GM that knows what it takes to win, and until the Mets realize that Phillies may continue to win the division.

39. Brooks Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    Wow, look at the positive vibes going across the airwaves now! Even Jeff got into it!

    Bacardi – I am totally with you about Lidge. I was there last night and there on Monday – 2 different pitchers altogether. Although it was nice to see “Lights Out” pay us a visit! Hope to see more of him soon

40. Brooks Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:30 am

    Mysterymet – start at the top. I dont think the Mets are cheap, but they do have the wrong chemistry. Santana, FRod, Reyes, Pelfrey, David Wright (the ONLY Mets player I would not mind seeing in pinstripes) – they have spent some money they just need better leadership. The other thing is that 12 out of the 25 roster players were born in the 1970’s.

    Get rid of Jerry Manuel first.

41. Land Shark Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Not to sound greedy but we still need one more solid arm in the bullpen, and possibly another bat off the bench

42. Jeff Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Thanks Brooks. Now I have to be negative. LOL….I heard Oswalt say Lidge was a big reason for him coming here. They are friends. Then I thought OH NO. Will he still be saying that when Lidge comes in to save one of his games. LOL. SORRY…

    I know why Charlie started Madson last night in the 9th. He was so good in the 8th. Its like he hits a wall in the 9th. I also know why JC was out there against all those lefties. I still would of liked to see Lidge start that inning. That double play was HUGE. Close play at first. Call could of gone either way.

43. Jeff Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Talk about the Mets and go no farther then the owner. They are the worst.

44. MysteryMet Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Brooks your right, and I really didn’t mean cheap cuz they fill the needs , but they don’t get the hard gritty players that certain team haves, they just fill the spot, just to save money, I also think the Mets aren’t doing anything, just to put the blame on Jerry Manuel, and Omar Minaya to fire them. Now I have one bad comment about the Phills, and that is they really don’t have a promising future after about the end of next season what’s their plan, cuz that lineup, and rotation will get real old soon.

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46. Jeff Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Your right Mystery Met but us Philly fans just need to enjoy the next three years. Win as much now. Play for now. I have trust they will make the right moves. I like that they have shown Doc they want to win.

47. mark Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:51 am

    RAJ is quite the wheeler dealer, no?

    For the past 2 years, the Philies have been the #1 story at the trade deadline

48. Brooks Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    It’s hard for me to look past this year and the next too but in the mean time, I could be getting my picture with 2 more WS trophies

    B )

49. psujoe Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Site is so much faster. Sweet. Doesn’t seem to be scrolling the comments on my iphone though. Coincidence?

    Manny, Raul has proved everyone wrong. His July numbers .333, .417 OBP and a .929 OPS.

    Rubin will have to really bear down to keep Weerth or obtain another power RH bat, but that’s after the season.

50. NJ Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    I think the thing that’s become apparent is the front office will be aggressive in addressing needs but will keep a next-step plan in place. I’m really impressed because instead of frittering our money and our prospects/young players on small deals their focused on big moves coupled, retaining our guys and developing a next generation.

    Ups and downs the Gillick/Amaro front office have built the Phils into a legitimate powerhouse franchise.

51. Ted Bell Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    The Phillies already have 16 players under contract next season for $145 million. The remaining nine roster players figure to be very inexpensive. In other words, Jayson Werth won’t be here next year…

    I’m Ted Bell.

52. Manny Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    Overall, the front office has done a good job. They’ve stretched our winning window through 2012, when at first it was supposed to end in 2010 or 2011. I expect them to keep doing that as we move along. I don’t think it’ll be a dramatic shift from costly veterans to a bunch of minor-leaguers.

53. Bruce Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    You can always count on Wade for a good return in a trade.(chuckles)

    @Geoff: “…I think they will likely prioritize some injury cover for their infield.” They already have one in Wilson Valdez who has done an excellent job for both positions, ss and 2b. He is flawless in fielding with an exceptionally strong and accurate arm. He even came through with a few clutch hits.

    After the trade for Oswalt what are the Phillies’ plans for Jayson Werth? The team could use bullpen help right now and replenish their farm with added prospects. I say trade Werth now for something of value even if it is just a salary dump.

54. NJ Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    I think the Phils have addressed the bullpen with the addition of Oswalt. 1-3 the starters will turn in a top of innings so the bullpen will be set-up nicely to not have to be stretched too thin. I doubt there’s a reliever out there who could be had cheaply who are upgrades over the guys we have.

55. NJ Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    ton of innings^

56. psujoe Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    Bastardo is tearing it up in AAA. If he’s healthy I’d have him replace Baez or Herndon on the Roster. I’d never want anyone to get hurt, but a nice 15-30 day stint by one of those guys would allow management to bring up a better reliever.

    Ted Bell,

    If Raul keeps on truckin’ he will be tradable to an AL team to free up money for Werth.

57. Philly Geoff Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Who plays CF for the next 3-4 weeks if you trade Werth?

    This team is a legit WS contender now, and another BP arm and bench player could put them over the top.

    And Valdez has been outstanding… he has really impressed me.

58. Brooks Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    I like your thinking psujoe – I’d bring back Jose Table to replace Herndon..

59. Land Shark Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    I know this might seem crazy, but bear with me here…I know most of you would disagree, and thats fine. I think they should still move Werth out of here while they can to replenish the farm system. I think Brown would do a good job filling in for Werth, and come Post season. He doesn’t have the expierience as Werth, but I think between Francisco and Brown the job will get done……….And we’ll even put some more extra talent back into the farm.

60. Land Shark Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Look…Trade Werth for about 2 good prospects, than go after Bautista

61. psujoe Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Werth isn’t going to be traded. Phils are a serious contender for the WS with their rotation now. The farm is still in very good shaped. Cosart top 25 prospect, Singleton top 50 prospect and Colvin is a top 100 prospect.

62. Land Shark Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    IMO they would be contenders with or without Werth. Keep in mind, were trailing behind the Division and WC (not by much but were still behind). Its not like we have a 7 game lead. Nothing is promised in this game.

63. HighwayFlower Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    I just would hate to see both Cliff Lee and Werth in Yankee uniforms…

64. George Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    The Victorino injury killed any real chance of trading Werth.

65. George Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Lee probably will go to the Yanks, because they really want him. But Werth will only be a Yanks target if they can’t sign Crawford.

66. Land Shark Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    I know it seems that way, but I don’t think it did. We have plenty of platoons options to cover Center and Right until Shane comes back (Gload, Francisco, and Brown) and they could even summon Mayberry if they wanted to for the time being. Werth is good, but he isn’t the face of this franchise

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68. Manny Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD TRADE WERTH NOW?

    Think about it. It makes zero sense, at least for 2010.

69. psujoe Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    The Phils need Werth hitting behind Howard. I like Ben Fran, but not as a #5 protecting Howard. Keep Werth make a run at the WS. Trade Ibanez in the off season. Try to resign Werth, if not look for another RH bat in FA.

70. Don M Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    They wouldn’t have traded for Oswalt if they were going to move Werth .. it would make no sense..

    people overthink this stuff sometimes

71. Bruce Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    @Don M: Do you want to clarified your statement for those who see Werth as expendable and can provide valuable return in trade especially in areas of need such as the bullpen and bench? Also keep in mind the Phillies do not intend to keep Dominic Brown on the bench. He is there to play regularly..be it in CF or RF. What is that expression?..You can have your cake and eat it too..with Oswalt and trade Werth for something of value (and not worry about his contract).

72. "PHILLYBOY" Says:
    July 30th, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    With the money we saved by hosing the astros i still think we can sign werth in the off-season.plus when we win the world series this year i believe he will still want to play for us!!!!!!! WE GOT FREAKING ROY OSWALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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