Happ Will Miss Next Start With Elbow Strain – Phillies Nation

Happ Will Miss Next Start With Elbow Strain

According to Ruben Amaro, J.A. Happ will miss his scheduled Wednesday start against Atlanta.  In a press release, Amaro said, “J.A. Happ experienced soreness in his left elbow after his last start. He was seen by Dr. Michael Ciccotti and had an MRI.  The MRI revealed a very mild flexor pronator muscle strain.  J.A. has been progressing and improving since then, but we will take a conservative approach and skip his next start.  He is scheduled for a bullpen session on Thursday.”

The Phillies rotation for their upcoming series in Atlanta is as follows:

Tuesday – RHP Kyle Kendrick

Wednesday – RHP Roy Halladay

Thursday – LHP Jamie Moyer

There were concerns over Happ’s velocity and it looks like this strain is the culprit.  In his last start, Happ allowed six walks, but somehow left without giving up an earned run.  A candidate to jump in for a spot start should the soreness linger would be Nelson Figueroa.  Since joining the team prior to the start of the season, Figgy has done quite well in relief duty.

The news on Happ isn’t good, but it isn’t awful either.  If he misses one start, and all he needs is some rest, then the Phils will get off easy here.  Let’s hope the velocity is back on Thursday, when he is scheduled for a bullpen session.

Joe Blanton will pitch tomorrow for Class-A Lakewood as he continues to rehab that oblique injury.



  1. Chuck

    April 19, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Like I asked in the other thread….What is exactly is a flexor pronator??


    I would imagine the Braves are licking their chops over the prospect of seeing both Kendrick and Moyer this week.

    I’m really not worried about Moyer….he’s a professional…and for 10 out of 12 innings so far this season, he’s been brilliant.

    However, it’s time for KK to show up.

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  3. Ryan H.

    April 19, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    this rotation can ill afford to lose another starter. If we lost happ for any period of time (especially while Blanton is still out) we’d be in some serious trouble. The offense would need to put up a minimum of 7 runs in any game started by guys not named Hamels or Halladay. Thankfully it seems like Blanton is getting close to coming back and he will provide much needed stability.

  4. Joepa

    April 19, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Discouraging, but not unexpected news.

    By the way, in case anyone was thinking ‘…if we just had Drabek now we’d be in good shape…’ – well think again.

    The Reading Phillies faced Drabek a few days ago, and they smoked him for seven hits and seven runs. Here’s the article from the Reading newspaper if anyone is interested. Interestingly, he faced off against Phillippe Aumont who had a better outing – giving up three runs before being lifted.


  5. Ed R.

    April 19, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    Chuck…I am not a Doctor but I have seen every episode of House so I feel qualified answering your question.

    The flexor pronator is a muscle above the wrist and below the elbow on the inside part of your arm. it is located right next to the bone. It’s pretty much right there in your forearm section.

  6. Phan in Atl

    April 19, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    I bought tix for Thu to see Doc…ugh. Oh well, guess I’ll dip into the change jar and grab some $8 tickets for Wed.

    Might the Phils consider going ahead and get something going with Pedro? Considering it will take some time for him to get ready, it would be nice if this is a sign of things to come.

  7. teejvee

    April 19, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    I’m thinking 1 of 3 v Braves.
    Afraid a sweep vs Giants is likely.
    2 of 3 v the D-backs would make it a palatable (3-6 )road trip.

  8. Chuck

    April 19, 2010 at 4:42 pm


    Can we add you to the list of whiners and complainers on here??

    Also, what’s your definition of “palatable”? For me, 3-6 is DEFINITELY not even close to palatable.

  9. karen

    April 19, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Can we clone Halladay? This is not good. I do not want to be negative, but we need blanton and romero back soon. not sure about lidge and happ. maybe KK will have some magic in atlanta tomorrow

  10. Chuck

    April 19, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Thanks, Ed. Sounds like this COULD be more than just missing one start. Time will tell, I suppose.


    We all just need to B R E A T H E………

    Halladay is as advertised.

    Hamels will give us 15+ wins before it’s all said and done…. Yesterday was a great start.

    Blanton is coming back.

    Except for 2 bad innings, Moyer has actually pitched well.

    Happ’s injury hopefully won’t last too long.

    KK needs to step up….NOW.

    The bullpen has its concerns….but no more than any other year or for any other team.

  11. Mego

    April 19, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Heh, I wouldn’t count on KK for anything besides giving up atleast 5 runs, hope he proves me wrong but KK is not a major league pitcher. As far as pedro goes I don’t belive he is the answer. Most baseball people are of the opinion he’d only be good for about 10-12 starts anyway, and that he wouldn’t be ready for atleast 3-4 weeks.

  12. George

    April 19, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Kendrick has never done well against Atlanta, but that was before he even had any secondary pitches. I’m hoping they’re unfamiliar with him this time, and he can locate a little better. He’s not always bad.

    I look for Figueroa to take a few starts in place of Happ, because the Phils aren’t the Mets, and don’t mess around when it comes to injuries. It’s bad news, but so was the loss of Myers last year. It’s not the end of the world.

    The fact that Happ did as well as he did in his last start, with the reduced velocity, shows that he’s probably not the “flash in the pan” that some people think he is. He must know something about pitching to allow no earned runs with a fastball that isn’t as fast as it should be.

  13. Chuck

    April 19, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Let’s try to channel some of this negativity twoards KK into some SUPPORT for the kid. I agree, he’s on thin ice. But automatically assuming he will suck tomorrow night achieves nothing.

  14. George

    April 19, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Who cares what some baseball people say about Pedro? Last year the same people said he couldn’t pitch at all.

    I agree though that he’s not ready and can’t help anyone for at least three weeks. By then Blanton will be back, and probably Happ, too. Right now, no one else is ready, and it’s going to have to be Kendrick, Figueroa, or Carpenter.

  15. George

    April 19, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Like I said about Kendrick, “He’s not always bad.” He’s proven a lot of people wrong before (he has won 24 major league games). Let’s hope he proves the naysayers wrong tonight, and if needed, proves them wrong the next time he pitches, too.

  16. Michael N.

    April 19, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    I wonder whats wrong with the dude last year during the end he was doing good now this year its so sad and pitiful i kinda like the guy but he really needs to do something or else.

  17. Repeat!

    April 19, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    I’m not worried. I’m dating a voodoo chick. And she told me that the Phillies will go 138-12 the rest of the way. Why would she lie??

  18. BurrGundy

    April 19, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    Poor Happ. Poor Phils, Poor fans, Poor me. DAMN, I hope Happ recovers. I have a lot of trouble being optimistic when I hear about arm trouble on a pitcher. I need a stiff dose of optimism….perhaps in beverage form.

  19. Chuck

    April 19, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    “poor fans”

    BurrGundy…..PLEASE don’t have pity on me……ok?? I don’t feel all bummed out and depressed like you do. Why??

    Because I have phaith that the Phillies will be just fine. This team has the ability to rise to the occasion….they have shown it time and time again.

  20. mikemike

    April 19, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    yeah trading lee was the voodo for this team. third place is now a reach for them.

  21. jeff of nova

    April 19, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Chuck I agree with 100 percent let’s get behind KK we are off to a great start.

    Remember if we had Lee still he would where Blanton is.

  22. karen

    April 19, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    KK was decent in spring training and he was also good last year in AAA. Yes, this is not minor league or spring training but he does have something, not sure where it is. I am hoping that Cole can have a good outing next time…..hoping that the loss he got will not impact his confidence, he looked good, the hitters were dead again.

  23. WFC010

    April 19, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    mikemike, out of all the whiners I find you to be the most annoying and negative.

    You never EVER have anything positive to say, yet to keep hanging around here all the damn time.

    I try not to get too carried away over the internet or trolls(and I seriously think you are one), but it’s quite clear that PhilliesNation would be quite better off without you.

    Even the other people who are a bit negative usually have something positive to say, but you NEVER say anything good or even valid.

    Don’t you have something else you could be doing, like calling into WIP to bitch about how awful the Phillies are?

  24. BurrGundy

    April 19, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    Hey Chuck, Please cut the edge in your comments. You come across as an overly sensitive ass. Take what I say as being literary license. Of course, I don’t care about you. I have lived and lived well through the thick and thin of Phillies baseball since 1958.
    I wish you well, despite your sarcasm. And I do hope the Phils’ pitching rectifies itself.

  25. shag beta sigma delta

    April 19, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Like all pitchers KK has to locate his pitches, he is not good enough to give free passes. I’m on a wait and see about Happ’s injury, if it is only one or two starts I think the Phillies will be fine. The offense, despite what they did this weekend, will carry this team at times, hopefully this road trip they will rebound.
    I do not expect 8 runs a game and PP to hit .500, but 4-6 runs a game should be plenty. The guys on MYPHL 17 made a good point after the game Sunday, the Phillies bats do not like the cold. The first couple of weeks it was unseasonably warm and they were on fire, and then it got chilly and so did the bats.
    On a point off subject the Nats have 6 wins now, so the fact that the Phillies went 4-2 against them means maybe they are not as bad as advertised. I would like to see a 5-4 or 4-5 road trip and I would be happy with that 13-8 coming home to face the Mets and start May would not be that bad.

  26. shag beta sigma delta

    April 19, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Also I will be in AZ on Saturday for the Phillies game and San Fran on Tuesday for the Phillies game, anyone in PhilliesNation going to be at those games

  27. Scotch Man

    April 19, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Kyle Kendrick vs. Tommy Hanson. Gee, I wonder who wins that duel!

  28. Scotch Man

    April 19, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Hence my name!

  29. Manny

    April 19, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    So the injury bug is here:

    and now Happ

    Those are 5 KEY players that we’ll need to win this division. I hope they get better soon. For now, we’ll need KK and Moyer to step it up, and Figueroa to keep doing what he’s been doing out of the pen.

  30. Scotch Man

    April 19, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Yeah shag, I’ll just hop on my jet and I’ll be right down there for that game in San Fran!

  31. shag beta sigma delta

    April 19, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    That is why they play the games Scotch Man. The Phillies historically actually hit good pitchers well, more often than not they have trouble with the guys everyone else hits. Also Chipper is not 100% and McCann has looked bad lately. Other then the kid Hayward, Haywood? their offense is not that great. IMO KK has a chance to have a good outing against them. And the Phillies will hit Hanson, Plus the Phillies love the road, haven’t they been over .500 on the road for like 3 years now. Phillies will take 2 out of three in hotlanta.

  32. Wine Man

    April 19, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    C’Mon Happ! You’re supposed to use your non-throwing hand when you rub one out! That’s rule #1 in pitcher’s school!

  33. shag beta sigma delta

    April 19, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Hey Scotch Man you just like being an a## I live in VT and just happen to be going on vacation when the Phillies are out west, I know there are Phillies fans everywhere so I was just wondering if any of them are making the trip to either of those games. I also have the Sunday package so I do drive down from Vermont to Phila. on Saturdays to use my tickets thank you very much

  34. shag beta sigma delta

    April 19, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    As far as injuries go, would rather have them now and have time to get back 100% for the dog days of summer then in Sept. As long as they all can recover and play they way the were able before the injury the Phillies will be fine

  35. Scotch Man

    April 19, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Vermont? We don’t welcome Phillies fans from Vermont! Go root for the Red Sox!

  36. Manny

    April 19, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    BTW.. I agree with tonight’s Jeltz. Off days are depressing! Guess I’ll have to watch the Mets vs Cardinals?

  37. shag beta sigma delta

    April 19, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Phillie fan since 1970, so I am not a bandwagoner like you Scotch Man. I may move around the country, but my heart is always with the Phillies. Why don’t you go root for the Mets you know you followed them until the Phillies starting winning

  38. Ed R.

    April 19, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    Scotch Man I hope you are just joking.

  39. George

    April 19, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    I’m glad I’m not named after a roll of cellophane tape. I’m also glad I don’t have to use my name twice, like a pet doggy or a little mama’s boy, as mikemike does.

  40. WFC010

    April 20, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Just wondering, but is there any way to implement an ignore button to hide specific posts, or to ignore ANY posts by problem users?

    guys like mikemike and the Yankees trolls are practically begging for something like that.

  41. bfo_33

    April 20, 2010 at 6:57 am

    I think there may have been a comment or 2 about the Phils above, but I’ll have to read through it a few times to find them.
    Phils will be going to warmer weather, and the bats will come back. If they can put up some runs early, it will calm down KK, keep it close through 5. The bullpen had a day off Mon, will have another day off Wed, can afford to hit it fairly early, just keep it close.
    Not great news on Happ, but it could be worse. Agree that it is very good news that Happ could get guys out without having any velocity. The Phils have one of the better training staff in the MLB, seem to hit the injuries quick (instead of letting the guys play, hoping it will work out, then losing the guy for the season).

  42. Chuck

    April 20, 2010 at 7:13 am

    It’s like I said yesterday….if we didn’t have clowns like mikemike and Jeff and some of the other whiners on here….then it wouldn’t be nearly as intersting on here.


    BurrGundy…. I will NOT cut the “edge” on my comments. When someone like you CONSTANTLY cries like a baby over some of these issues with the Phillies….it’s really hard NOT to say something. I know you are a phaithful phan since 1958 and that’s cool. But, please, for the love of God, STOP acting like every day is September 1964 reincarnated.


    shag…..have fun on vacation. Believe me, if I was anywhere near Phoenix or San Fran I would be at one of those games. Have fun, man….and report back!

  43. George

    April 20, 2010 at 8:38 am

    People like mikemike always renew my faith in humanity, because they are always put in their places by someone more intelligent and widely read, who doesn’t function solely on knee-jerk prejudices. There are always imbeciles in the world, but there are far more real thinkers here than I would have ever suspected.

    Keep the mikemikes; they’re nice reminder that man has evolved to a higher state.

  44. The Original Chuck P

    April 20, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    I’m optimistic… I pour out the kool-aid in healthy doses on regular occasions… but I think that we’re approaching a critical juncture for this team. This injury bug is biting us… seemingly minor injuries across the board but what happens next is what will define this season. We’re probably going to drop a few games over these next couple of weeks and it’s very important that RAJ, Charlie and the rest of the gang keep their fingers off of the panic button. We can’t have a team of guys trying to do too much… stick with the plan; ample rest for the guys in the field, pitch counts and regular rest for starters and don’t overwork the bullpen. I would hate to see us rushing guys back or asking guys to do things that aren’t good in the long run or forcing guys to play through things that they shouldn’t be playing through… let the players play. Keep in mind that it is a game… the players have enough competitive juice to help them find ways to win, it falls on Charlie to make sure that he doesn’t let them try to do too much. It falls on RAJ to make sure that he doesn’t do something stupid out of desparation.

  45. loupossehl

    April 20, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    “I have lived and lived well through the thick and thin of Phillies baseball since 1958.”

    Signing in from Culver City, CA: That’s pretty good – but I can do better than ’58. Been a Phillies fan since 1947, by way of the Utica Blue Sox.

    (For you young whippersnappers who may not get the connection, check out Phillies’ ancient history. Recommended reading: “The Whiz Kids and the 1950 Pennant”, co-authored by Robin Roberts.)

    My hero back in ’47 was some flashy kid named Ashburn.

    For those of you who think you know the pain of a Phillies fan, think of the up-and-down experiences of this Phanatic for 60-plus years.

    Current edition (Fightins ’10) looks great. Rotation of Halladay-Hamels-Blanton-Moyer compares favorably with Roberts-Simmons-Heintzelman (and Ridzik?). Position players: ’10 club wins hands down, although would like to see Granny Hamner filling in right about now.

    I’ve learned an awful lot of baseball by following the comments of the regulars on this site, for a couple of years now. It’s never too late to learn, and it’s never to late to be young: when not checking the sports page, I’m busy raising a 5-year-old. He has the build of a Darryl Daulton, but it’s early …

    Bottom line: keep the faith; think positive. “Team sucks” is for the faint of heart and losers. Phillies are winners; no room for whiners.

  46. George

    April 20, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    The Phils’ training and medical staff so far have shown no inclination to rush players through injuries, and Manuel seems to go by what they say. It’s the players themselves who seem to want to push too hard to get back.

    What troubles me most, though, is that 1) This team has been somewhat lucky the past few years when it comes to injuries; there haven’t been a lot. The law of averages might be catching up with them. 2) Core players, though not yet really old (except maybe Ibanez) are getting older, and the older a person gets, the more injury prone he can sometimes become, and those injuries will require longer healing times.

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