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Victorino Wins 3rd Consecutive Gold Glove

In a press release from the Phillies:

Center fielder Shane Victorino was among nine National League players to win Rawlings Gold Glove Awards for the 2010 season. It is the third career Gold Glove Award for Victorino, who also won the honor in 2008 and 2009.

In 143 games for the Phillies this past season, Victorino, 29, posted a .995 fielding percentage, committing only two errors in 373 total chances.  He finished tied for the NL lead in outfield assists with 11, tops among all NL center fielders, and ranked second in double plays (4).

“It’s an honor to be recognized by the managers and coaches as one of the top defensive players in the league along with all the other deserving candidates,” said Victorino. “I take a lot of pride in my defense and this award means a lot to me.”

Victorino is now the sixth Phillie to have won at least three Gold Glove Awards, joining Mike Schmidt (10), Garry Maddox (8), Manny Trillo (3), Scott Rolen (3) and Jimmy Rollins (3).  Victorino and Maddox (1975-82) are the only two outfielders in club history to have won at least three awards and Schmidt, Maddox, Rollins and Victorino are the only four Phillies to have won Gold Gloves in at least three consecutive seasons.

20 Comments

20 Comments

  1. Bacardipr05

    November 10, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    Silince the Victorino haters for a day…lol

  2. Bart Shart

    November 10, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Congrats to Victorino !!!!

  3. mike

    November 10, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    why the phils can’t trade vic.

    his defense is top notch.

  4. JAY-AKA-PHILLYBOY

    November 10, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Who is better in center????——–GREAT JOB VIC!!!!!

  5. JAY-AKA-PHILLYBOY

    November 10, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Also for the people who think werth is coming back,PER ESPN-
    Werth
    • Not Werth it: Here’s one Phillies source on the odds of his team finding a way to keep Jayson Werth: “No chance. None. Zero.” In the end, it might not even be the annual dollars that will force the Phillies to move on. It’s their unwillingness to go beyond three or four years for a player who will turn 32 next May.

    So where might the Phillies turn? Reports of their interest in guys like Magglio Ordonez, Pat Burrell and Andruw Jones appear highly exaggerated. General manager Ruben Amaro Jr. continues to talk up Ben Francisco, at least in a potential platoon with Domonic Brown — or with Ross Gload if they decide Brown isn’t ready. But the Phillies would still shop for another right-handed-hitting outfield bat. One name we’ve heard a lot: Jeff Francoeur, who has told friends he’d love to play for Charlie Manuel.

    • More Phillie phodder: The free agent the Phillies have been most aggressive about trying to re-sign isn’t Werth. It’s right-hander Jose Contreras, who struck out 57 in 56 2/3 innings in his first full season in the bullpen.

    Amaro wouldn’t confirm that, but did say: “We’ve made contact with 40 free agents, predominantly bullpen guys.” He also said: “Left-handed relief is a priority for us.”

    Two names that could top that shopping list: Mets escapees Pedro Feliciano and Hisanori

  6. pheeling it

    November 10, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Why do people hate on Shane? He’s one of the only guys I wouldn’t wanna lose. I think he’s the core of this team now, Jimmy Rollins is losing that role. Then again he was out the whole year, and Utley, and Howard, and Polanco. The whole top of the order was injured so I’m not sure we need another bat this offseason.

    People have been telling me that we’re going after Cliff Lee, I don’t see a need for it but what if? Just typing it get’s me excited for no reason, of course the dumb yankees will blow us out of the water with an offer.

    Bullpen-
    Kendrick
    Contreras
    Bastardo
    Madson
    New Lefty
    Lidge

  7. pheeling it

    November 10, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Yankees are prepared to “overspend” on jeter by offering him 60 million for 3 years when the only team interested in jeter is the yankees. Cliff Lee only want’s money, it would be a shame if the Rangers couldn’t lock Lee down but I’m not so sure about him after that 0-2 World Series

  8. bacardipr05

    November 10, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Why they sign ibanez when he was 36 for 3 years. Surely we can do 4 for Werth or 4 that will put him at 36 just bout right…pat the bat nah why would they re-sign him?

  9. bacardipr05

    November 10, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Pheeling not sure why they hate Victorino. My guess a few moments where he a few lapses. Some think that he was playing offensively above what he is really capable of. Since he had a so-so year this year that further reinforced their theories. So in essence he is a viewed(by some here) as good defensive player and a slightly above average player with the bat. That can be easily replaced. The school of thought(by some) is he is more valuable as trade bait. He is perceived as an easily replaceable slightly above average player(by some Phillies Phan) though most teams view him in nearly the same class as a Jayson Werth. I think i got that right…(:

  10. biz

    November 10, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    D Brown in RF every day. Platoon Ben Fran and Ibanez.

  11. Greg

    November 11, 2010 at 1:00 am

    People don’t hate Vic. They just understand he’s replaceable. He’s average at the plate (yes, I know he’s had the highest BA over the past 3 yrs on the Phillies), but he gets what you pay for. People know he’s a great defender/baserunner, but he’s not a 5-tool player, as much as he’d like to be. We saw that this year. When he tries to hit for power, his BA drops 50 points. When he doesn’t hit homers, he’s a .290-.300 hitter, but a slap-hitter, much like Polanco. He’d be much more useful as a lead-off hitter if he could take a walk and reverted to slap-hitting, but he wants to swing for the fences, a la J-Roll. Werth in Center, D Brown in Right, New LF in Left would be just as serviceable as an outfield defensively, especially if the LF is an average-above average one. Werth will play Center similarly to Vic would, might not get to as many balls, but still possesses incredible athleticism that would make him above-average, Brown will become a top-defender if he pans out the way he’s expected to (he’s young, people). And anyone with the exception of Pat Burrell is an upgrade in Left, probably including Roy Oswalt (Defensively, of course).

    Don’t get me wrong, I like Shane, I want him to be a Leadoff slap hitter for Polly and Chase behind him, but he isn’t that guy as long as J-Roll leads off.

    My ideal lineup vs RHP next year, if Vic stays:

    Victorino 8
    Polanco 5
    Utley 4
    Howard 3
    Rollins 6
    Brown 9
    Ruiz 2
    Ibañez 7
    Halladay 1

    That is, of course, if Ibañez stays. J-Roll could break up the lefty’s, and he usually excels with RISP. Additionally, since Howard K’s a lot to end the inning, he could lead off the second or third, etc. Perhaps Brown could bat 8th in the lineup and swap roles with Ibañez, but I have a feeling he’ll excel, if given playing time.

  12. Greg

    November 11, 2010 at 1:05 am

    Also on Victorino’s defense, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t read fly-balls as well as other CF’s, but ends up using his speed to make a diving, sliding, nice-looking catch, etc. I couldn’t imagine much difference between he and Werth in Center, minus Werth being less “flashy”.

  13. Andrew from waldorf

    November 11, 2010 at 1:52 am

    Believe it or not. I have sat on this very blog and had to defend his defense. How funny is that?
    The fans mae me laugh.
    In the hangover the guy says its funny because hes fat.
    On this blog its funny because they dont know any better.

  14. Andrew from waldorf

    November 11, 2010 at 1:53 am

    RE Werth

    I was telling you guys 0% chance in may

    Its still 0%
    and it will be 0% till he signs with another team.
    I suppose it will still be posted about again and again though.

  15. bfo_33

    November 11, 2010 at 6:56 am

    First off, if there is a bigger joke award than the Golden Glove, I don’t know what it is. Jeter just won his second in a row, and he has NO range. Errors is one of the worst stats to judge someone by – when you can’t get to balls, you don’t make errors. The NL did a whole lot better job than the AL, though. It’s been said better by Greg, but pointing out a guy is replaceable does not mean you are hating on him.

    In my opinion, this is the first year Vic has actually deserved the GG (although Bourne, who also won, is the best defensive centerfielder in baseball by a pretty big margin, Vic and Kemp are a level below, comparable to each other). Vic’s lines have improved dramatically this year over the last few years. 2008-9, more often than not, his first three steps were in the wrong direction, and he corrected with speed, made a lot of highlight catches that should have been a lot easier, also gave up a lot of extra base hits that should have been singles or outs.

    Vic has an ugly but serviceable swing from the right, but cannot hit from the left. Yes, he’s had a few big homers, but in general is a pop-up waiting to happen when batting lefty. Since there are a whole lot more rhp, it hurts the team. If he would give up switch hitting, his average would probably go up 25 – 30 points. It must be an ego thing that he sticks with switch hitting.

    I don’t hate on Vic, he’s in his prime, has a decent contract, and when’s he’s locked in, can carry the team for a series. He also has too many 1-20 stretches, tries to hit for power when he should rely more on contact and speed, has a lousy stolen base % for his speed, and too often acts like a an over-caffeinated 4 yr old. I’m ok with him in center, but wouldn’t be terribly disappointed if traded.

    Greg, like your line-up, but I’d move the Ibanez/Ben Fran platoon to 7th, keep Ruiz at 8. Ruiz is the only guy on the team who has the patience to hit 8th, take what he is given. I hope the Phils don’t panic and platoon Brown – he needs to see left handed hitting to hit it. It may mean an ugly April/May for him, but I’m ok with that.

  16. The Dipsy

    November 11, 2010 at 7:10 am

    There is NO bigger joke than the Gold Glove. Bobby Abreu won one. Jim Kaat won like 18 straight. Maddux won it every year. Once you get a rep, the GG seems to follow you around. Thats not to say that Victorino is not a good CF because he is. My only point is that the best fielder at his position doesn’t always win the GG and the guy that does very often doesn’t deserve it. Polanco should have won this year, IMO. Sometimes the selection process can be a bit of a racket. Congrats to Shane all the same.

    The Dipsy

  17. sportsphan

    November 11, 2010 at 8:06 am

    TO Dipsy: Absolutely right about the Gold Glove. Larry Bowa got robbed of it more times than I can count–one time it was said because he “lacked grace” in his fielding. But his stats were remarkable year after year.

  18. Chuck

    November 11, 2010 at 8:12 am

    Allright….he won his Gold Glove…

    …Is everyone happy now??

    Now can we listen to offers for him maybe??

    And I’m not hating on him….I just understand and promote the fact that he’s a VERY attractive trade candidate.

  19. The Dipsy

    November 11, 2010 at 8:13 am

    Well, he had had a very high fielding percentage and was a great SS but he ran up against Davey Concepcion for years who was a bit better than he. Little better range and a better arm. Unfortunate for Larry.

    The Dipsy

  20. Lefty

    November 11, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Whether you think the GG process is a joke or not, Shane deserves it this year. He played CF very well for us. As for the argument about his best plays being flawed, I see Michael Bourne often break the wrong way initially on balls he ends up making spectacular catches on too.

    You don’t win more games than anyone else in the Majors without a strong defense up the middle. With Chooch, Jimmy/Valdez, Chase, and Shane we had that this season. If you want to mess with that in an attempt to coax more offense or get younger, then fine. Just know that there could be a price to pay defensively.

    Unfortunately we all have vivid memories of the playoffs where it seems Chase, Shane and Chooch suddenly could not make the plays they made all season. I get that, but I don’t think we would have even made the playoffs if not for our defense (and obviously pitching). Certainly our offense didn’t get us there.

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