Odds and Ends: Lee, Hamels, Halladay, Gillick, Rotation – Phillies Nation

Odds and Ends: Lee, Hamels, Halladay, Gillick, Rotation

Cliff Lee is fine after suffering a mild side sprain before camp. (Photo: Yong Kim/Philadelphia Daily News)

-Certainly, you caught wind of the news last night that Cliff Lee had been diagnosed with a mild strain on his left side (Bob Brookover of the Inky nailed it) before spring training. That has since healed, prompting Ruben Amaro Jr. to call Lee “100 percent.” Cliff himself made the proclamation that he is “perfectly fine,” so there is nothing really to report here.

The Phillies nipped it in the bud by holding him back somewhat through the first week of ST, and it appears he has not been hampered by it. It’s not really enough to be serious, but you probably read the headline and held your breath a little, didn’t you?

-Cole Hamels and Roy Halladay are scheduled to face live hitting for the first time today.

What that means is they’ll throw some pitches to a bunch of guys who are standing at the plate, not really looking to swing. Following the few batters they’ll face – Hamels and Halladay will throw 40 pitches each – the coaches will rave about how both men looked to be in midseason form. Anyway, Rich Dubee called this the natural progression of baseball – building the arm strength, getting it prepared for the long haul. For us, it’s sort of a tease.

Pat Gillick sort of jumped right into J-Roll’s shoes, saying the Phillies can win 116 games, tying the record of the 2001 Mariners, the team he was the GM for.

Gillick didn’t come right out and say they’ll match that incredible record, but he did mention he believes this team has more talent. While the Phillies pitching staff is head and shoulders above that Mariners team, the offense is what will have to equal it’s production. The 2001 Mariners scored 927 runs while allowing only 627 runs. Amazingly, they won 116 and still only won the west by 14 games. That’s because the Oakland A’s won 102.

I’ve gone on record to say the Phillies will win 96 games this year and I’ll stand by that. Too much has to go right for them to even top 100. Factor in injuries, slumps, etc., and I’ll stay at a safe 96 wins. Hey if I’m wrong and they win more, I’ll feel good about it.

UPDATE, 2:00 pm: The early rotation has been sent for the first few Spring Training games. Here it is from our buddy Dave Murphy of the Philadelphia Daily News (Lawrence, Zolecki, Salisbury, Hale, Housenick, etc., since they all tweeted it):

Thursday vs. Florida State
RHP Drew Naylor
LHP Juan Perez
RHP Mike Stutes
RHP Mike Schwimer
RHP Justin DeFratus
RHP Scott Mathieson

Saturday at Yankees
LHP Cole Hamels
RHP Vance Worley
LHP Ryan Feierabend
RHP Brian Schlitter
LHP Mike Zagurski

Sunday vs. Yankees
RHP Joe Blanton
RHP Justin DeFratus
RHP Michael Schwimer
RHP Ryan Madson
LHP J.C. Romero
RHP Brad Lidge

Monday at Blue Jays
RHP Roy Halladay
RHP J.C. Ramirez
RHP Mike Stutes
LHP Juan Perez
RHP Scott Mathieson

Tuesday vs. Tigers
LHP Cliff Lee
RHP Kyle Kendrick
RHP Eddie Bonine
LHP Dan Meyer
RHP Danys Baez
LHP Mike Zagurski

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  1. Dennis

    February 21, 2011 at 12:07 pm


    I do agree that 116 is a stretch but only 96 wins? This is a team that won 97 last year without Cliff Lee or Roy Oswalt for half a season and with more slumps and injuries than anyone could ever imagine. I think they win at least 100.

  2. Jeff of Nova

    February 21, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    I am going with 105 wins. I think if this team hits like 2009 and 2008 and pitch up to potential, with some new blood inserted in there like DBrown and Ben, I think they could win 120, but hey I am a true optimist…. They really just need to stay healthy!

  3. Dropped Strike Three

    February 21, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    The schedule plays out kind of funny this year with some lengthy home stays and road trips, but I think their interleague schedule is reasonable with only Seattle and Toronto on the road. I think they’ll hit September within sniffing distance of 100 wins, but ease off the pedal at the end and fall somewhere around 98-99 (which will still leave them with the best record in the NL).

  4. bfo_33

    February 21, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Angels, Cardinals, Giants, Phils, Rangers, Red Sox – what do they have in common in 2010? Besides being competitive teams, all had 2 starters pitch 200 innings (Sanchez and Zito also pitched over 190). Of the other 24 staffs, none had 2, many didn’t even have 1. To summarize Pat, stuff happens, and it is unlikely everyone stays healthy the whole year.

    While I’m an optimist by nature, all I hope for in 2011 is no 60 day dls, make it to the playoffs, have 3 healthy starters in October (and off course, another wfc ring).

    I’d take the over on 96 wins, but think winning 100 games is a long shot. While the injury bug can’t be as bad as last year (can it?), an awful lot has to happen to win 100, and all but the Mets appear to have improved in the offseason.

  5. Pat Gallen

    February 21, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Hey I’ll take 96 because if I’m right, I look good and if I’m wrong, we’ll you’ll all be happy with 100+ and so will I.

  6. Ted Bell

    February 21, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    The only number of wins that matter for this team is 11.

    I’m Ted Bell.

    • Lefty

      February 21, 2011 at 2:00 pm

      That’s the most interesting comment on this thread. I agree, that’s the number that matters to me.

  7. The Dipsy

    February 21, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    I think this whole exercise is obnoxious. And possibly bad luck.

    The Dipsy

  8. Bruce

    February 21, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Dipsy’s right regarding a prediction on number of wins THIS early in February. However, have your fun in making a prediction.

    I’m more concern about Gallen’s comment on the revelation of Cliff Lee’s “mild strain” on his side. He has a history of abdomiinal strains that put him on the disabled list. Twice in his career he has opened the season on the DL because of the same problem, including last season with the Mariners, when he did not make his first start until April 30. The same happened back in 2007 with Cleveland when he went on the DL with the abdominal injury and did not make his first start until May3.

    I’m keeping my fingers crossed that GM Amaro’s personal assessment on Lee’s health as “100 %” is correct.

  9. betasigmadeltashag

    February 21, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    i am not big on predictions either, If this team can stay healthy they should win enough to win the east. And As we saw last year the playoffs come down to match ups. Also would like the core players Chase, JRoll, Poly, Raul, and Ryan to get semi regular rest this year. If these only play 135-145 games because of rest and only win 95 games I am good with that as long as that is enough to win the east.

  10. philliesphanmike

    February 22, 2011 at 9:53 am

    We won’t come close to 100+ unless we stay healthy. Even with a healthy roster 100+ is a long shot.

    Im heading to the spring season game against the Yankees, excited to see how long Hamels will go. I watched him progress in the Minors, he dominated when I watched him play for the Lakewood BlueClaws in 03′. I wanna see him get back to throwing more complete games like Halladay and Lee do.


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