Mutual Interest in Oswalt Return to Philadelphia – Phillies Nation

Mutual Interest in Oswalt Return to Philadelphia

Could Oswalt return to the Phils?

According to Fox Sports’ Jon Paul Morosi, Roy Oswalt‘s price tag is falling yet his preferred suitors remain strapped for cash and may not be able to sign the righty. It is no secret the World Series-winning Cardinals and runner-up Rangers are Oswalt’s top choice due to their proximity to his Mississippi home, yet Morosi reports that the Red Sox, Reds, and, yes, the Phillies have remained in contact with Oswalt as contract demands decrease. Oswalt is the best free agent pitcher available, yet teams looking for cheaper options are exploring trades, with Morosi mentioning the Nationals’ John Lannan and the Rays’ Jeff Niemann and Wade Davis being available with affordable, team-friendly contracts.

Of Oswalt’s interest in returning, Morosi says:

Oswalt had a positive experience in Philadelphia, where he went 16-11 with a 2.96 ERA in 221 2/3 innings after arriving in a trade midway through the 2010 season. Oswalt remains interested in returning to the Phillies, sources say. But they haven’t been aggressive in looking for rotation help this off-season, given the formidable – and expensive – cast of starters they currently possess.

This off-season, the Phillies have picked up a few role players whose salaries total what Oswalt may be asking for ($8-$10 million, 1 year). Phillies fans: is Oswalt someone you would be willing to go over the Luxury Tax for, do you have confidence in our fifth starter (Joe Blanton, Kyle Kendrick, or other), and are you disappointed that the money given to players like Ty Wigginton, Laynce Nix, Jim Thome, Chad Qualls, and others could have been used to re-sign Oswalt or does the strengthened bench outweigh fortifying what remains one of the most formidable rotations in baseball?

Click here for Phillies Nation’s Roy Oswalt 2011 Year In Review.



  1. Dave P

    February 4, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Well, it’d be nice to wear that four aces shirt for a second year. 😛

    • Ian Riccaboni

      February 4, 2012 at 6:34 pm

      It may be time to buy that “Four Aces” pennant at Five Below after all! Also, for those looking for the Four Aces shirts? They’re still out there at various locations and are mostly now on clearance. Honestly, I’d go over the luxury tax for Oswalt on a one or two year deal if I knew we’d still have a puncher’s chance at resigning Hamels long-term.

      • Chuck A.

        February 4, 2012 at 6:53 pm

        That’s the ONLY way I would re-sign Oswalt….. if it meant we had a really good shot at Hamels long-term. And if his market is slipping then offer him one or two years at 5-6 M Per year.

  2. Jeff of Nova

    February 4, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    I would take him for 5-6 for 2 years then sign Hamels to a contract similiar to Lee’s more back loaded.

    • EricL

      February 4, 2012 at 10:22 pm

      Just FYI, the backloading of contracts doesn’t matter with regard to the salary cap. The consider the average annual value for the cap calculations.

      If you were advocating a backloaded contract for non-cap reasons then disregard.

      • Brian Sr. of CO

        February 5, 2012 at 1:10 pm

        I am guessing you mean for the Luxury Tax? MLB does not have a salary cap.

      • EricL

        February 5, 2012 at 1:17 pm

        Yeah. Tomato to-mah-to.

      • Brian Sr. of CO

        February 5, 2012 at 1:28 pm

        LOL. Just figured I would throw that out there. 🙂 Besides, depending on you ask, we wouldnt have to worry about it, because apparently Oswalt will sign for $3-4 Mill. LOL. NOT.

  3. TheDipsy

    February 4, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    I told ya, Chuck. He’s comin back here.

    The Dipsy


    February 4, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Frankly, I’d bring him back if he is healthy, then he will be stellar. It is worth the gamble. I have changed my tune on Roy.

  5. Ryan H

    February 4, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    If he comes cheap, with some clauses in his contract for innings pitched and staying healthy then I’d go for it. He still has ace ability if he can stay healthy. that’s a big if though

  6. Lefty

    February 4, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    IMO- Not worth going over the L.T. If there was a way to move someone else to make room to keep them under, sure, why not? But we shouldn’t cross the threshold for him. And I’m not disappointed in the Phils other moves, they were much more important than a fourth starter.

  7. frank riccard

    February 4, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Little Roy’s 2011 was only questionable due to injury. When he was healthy, he was solid. With his stock being so low right now, I feel like we could definitely have him for insanely cheap on a 1 or 2 yr deal.

    However, I’d only want him back on the condition that Blanton can absolutely be dealt, which I feel like he cannot. He’s still an unknown quantity (other than his weight).

    Bottom line though–I would LOVE to see Rube move Blanton, re-sign Roy-O for another 2 years, and then use that added certainty to get the Cole extension done.

    Fingers crossed.

  8. Bob

    February 4, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    The bench was much more needed. But i say go over luxury tax and if Blanton is healthy then there are teams interested. Might still be over luxury tax but would be worth it. Feeling is Oswalt can be had on 1 year deal.

  9. Groty

    February 4, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Depends… Is he going to jack up his back again doing yard work, THAT HE COULD HIRE SOMEONE ELSE TO DO FOR HIM!?!?!

    • Brian Sr. of CO

      February 5, 2012 at 1:14 pm

      You consider jumping on a tractor to dig out his neighborhood and helping family and friends dig out from a hurricane Yard Work? Huh. ok. Maybe baseball really is more important than family and real life.

  10. E.J.

    February 4, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    IMO, Oswalt has such a history of injury problems I hesitate to bring him back. Although I trust him more than I would Blanton and I would keep Kendrick as our “In case of emergency, break open glass pitcher”. That being said, I’d offer a $3-4M contract that’s incentive-laden up to $4.5-$5.5M total.

    • EricL

      February 4, 2012 at 10:31 pm

      If that’s your offer it’s probably best to just keep it to yourself so you don’t insult him.

      Seriously, you’d offer him a base salary $500k more than Kyle Kendrick after the 220+ innings of sub-3.00 ERA ball he gave you the last year and a half? I think his agent would hang up on you. And rightly so.

    • EricL

      February 4, 2012 at 10:32 pm

      Wait, it’s even worse. Your base offer is $559,000 LESS than Kendrick is making! haha

      This isn’t a video game, man.

      • E.J.

        February 4, 2012 at 10:54 pm

        I’m fully aware this isn’t a video game. But clearly you’re thinking like Oswalt’s agent and less like a GM. I’m sure Oswalt would acknowledge several things: 1) He has back issues in the past and has experienced them in this most recent season. 2) He’s turning 35 this year (in conjunction with the history of injuries) 3) The Phillies are near the luxury tax (albeit Boston is probably as well), 4) Unless the likes of Boston or NYY pay him more, this is probably his best option.

        Thome accepted $3MM, Juan Pierre (who was an everyday player last season) has an invite to spring training.

        Besides, I’m fully aware that $3-4MM is a starting point. Look at how far apart other players are at arbitration and many times they still come to an agreement somewhere in the middle. Learn a little business strategy, you might learn something.

      • EricL

        February 4, 2012 at 11:30 pm

        You’re vastly underestimating how good of a pitcher Roy Oswalt is.

        Chris Carpenter, who is 2 years older and has missed significantly more time due to injury over the last 5 years, is being paid $10.5 million this season and next. Roy was basically a 5-WAR pitcher in 2010 and accumulated ~2.5 WAR despite only making 23 stars, and a number of those while injured.

        Your comment about Thome making $3mm this season doesn’t really help your cause here, since he’s a bench player. So you’re saying that a bench player who will be lucky to get into 100 games is worth the same amount that you would initially offer to Oswalt, the potential 4th starter, a guy one season removed from a 5-WAR season? Further, Jim is making the same amount of money he made last year (also as a bench player/DH), so he’s not taking any kind of pay cut despite his advanced age and history of injuries. Oh, btw, he’s 41, 7 years older than Oswalt! Yet you’d be asking Oswalt to sign for the same amount, which is incidentally less than one fifth of what he played for last season? And you think that would get it done? With 4-5 other teams still in the mix?

        Oswalt is an excellent picther, warts and all. I think if you can get him around $8mm + incentives it’s an absolute steal (depending on the incentives to some extent).

      • Chris

        February 5, 2012 at 12:53 am

        I thought Thome was making like 1.25 Million

      • EricL

        February 5, 2012 at 2:20 am

        Shhhhh. 😉

        It is $1.25mm, but if EJ wanted to use $3mm it just reinforced my point. (I think BaseballReference has Thome’s salary wrong)

      • Brian Sr. of CO

        February 5, 2012 at 1:27 pm

        EJ, if you want to be taken seriously, get your facts right. 3MM for Thome? LOL. $559,000 more for Oswalt than KENDRICK? The last time Oswalt earned less then $5Mill a year…2005. He will not sign, nor talk to anyone if an offer is $12-$13MM less than what he made last year. It has nothing to do with EricL “thinking like Oswalt’s agent and less like a GM”. It has more to do with him thinking with common sense, and realizing that while to most of us, 3-4Mill a year would be AWESOME, and I would be over the moon, just to make $500 k a year, but to others, numbers like that are in fact offensive. Thats how the Astros and Orioles Front office think, and look at how great they are, year after year. If you want a little business strategy, you don’t make an offer to somewhere that will drive them to laugh in your face and walk away. You are more likely to get a fair deal, if he is asking for $8Mill, you offer $5 Mill ($1-2Mill over your offer mind you) and meet in the middle at about maybe $6.5mill. That is still $9.5 Mill less then what we would have paid him if we picked up his option.

  11. EricL

    February 4, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Here’s a question for Phillies Nation commenters. Would you rather have:

    Madson + Oswalt as 4th starter
    Papelbon + Blanton as 4th starter

    Because that’s getting close to the entire salary difference assuming Oswalt’s demands are now down somewhere below $10mm.

    If the Phils can move Blanton, I’d love to see Oswalt take his spot. But they probably won’t be able to if only because he’s coming off of a very injury plagued season. If he was completely healthy I’d figure there would be multiple suitors for him.

    All that being said, I’d be really surprised if the Phillies are even involved. This sounds to me like an agent trying to up the bidding by fibbing to a reporter about the level of interest in his client.

    • Ian Riccaboni

      February 4, 2012 at 11:51 pm

      Question for @EricL or anyone else who may know, for that matter:

      If the Phillies dump Blanton and pay his whole salary, does it still count against the Luxury Tax?

      • EricL

        February 5, 2012 at 2:23 am

        I believe so, because it’s money paid as compensation to players.

        It’s the same reason that the money the Astros sent to the Phils in the Pence deal allowed them to stay under the cap.

        If the Phils have to eat a significant portion of Blanton’s salary then I become much less sanguine about any potential Oswalt signing.

      • Lefty

        February 5, 2012 at 10:40 am

        Good question Riccaboni, and I don’t have the answer, except to say that I don’t believe the team would ever do that. They seem to hold on to, and squeeze every last ounce of participation out of players they give big contracts to, whether they are meeting expectations or not.

        But I’d love to know the answer to your question anyway.

    • George

      February 5, 2012 at 8:45 am

      I’d be really surprised, too, if the Phils are really involved. They were keeping in touch with Brad Lidge, but when the time came, they only made him really low-ball offer and he signed with the Nats for a slightly higher pittance. It’s probably the same thing with Oswalt.

      They’re just too close to the luxury tax limit, and every move they’ve made so far indicates that Amaro and company don’t want to exceed it. Even if they do want Oswalt back, they’re not going to free up much money by trading Blanton. They’d have to eat most of his salary, so it wooldn’t help the payroll total enough.

      • EricL

        February 5, 2012 at 11:56 am

        Blanton is a fine pitcher, and I really don’t think they’d have to eat all that much of his contract. Especially if they deal him closer to the dealine and he’s got half a season of healthy ball behind him.

        I’m working under the hypothetical that you can pick up Oswalt for something like $8.5-10mm and move Blanton for some minor league filler or something. If eating a significant portion of JB’s contract was necessary then the cost to acquire Oswalt is higher than acceptable, IMO.

      • George

        February 5, 2012 at 3:29 pm

        EricL, I agree that there is nothing wrong with Blanton’s pitching when he’s healthy. But he’s making more than some others of his talent, and he still may have an issue with his arm. He’s not tradeable right now, and if he’s traded at the deadline the Phils would still have to pick up about half of his paycheck. So it’s still mighty questionable they’d save enough to sign Oswalt after paying for a half season of Blanton. And Blanton may not even make it to the deadline without a trip or two to the DL.

        I also recall that before the Phils traded away Cliff Lee they tried to trade Joe, but no one was interested.

        I hope I’m wrong about how close the Phils are to the tax threshold and they can trade Blanton, even at a loss, and add Oswalt, because even with his creaky back, he’s a better pitcher.

    • Lefty

      February 5, 2012 at 11:00 am

      Eric, I would choose the first option. But it wasn’t in the cards I guess, so the reality for now is, we have option #2.

      I hate the Papelbon signing, I hate it worse than – you know, that other unpopular signing. (trying not to wake the beasties!) Pap’s 2011 peripherals are outstanding and hard to resist, I understand that. But we all know that with age the velocity will slow, and he’s on our books until he’s 34 or 35. I hope he can hang on and be effective for that long, but think it’s doubtful.

  12. Chris

    February 4, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    If we can move Blanton then sure why not go get Oswalt. Otherwise I’m not all that concerned about adding pitching. I think we have more than enough to be at the tops of the league in regards to rotation right now.

  13. Mazinman

    February 5, 2012 at 1:19 am

    If we can get Oswalt for a reasonable price then sure. A one year price does not hurt us keeping Hamels next year. The Luxury tax hit does not take place until the end of the season right? That means we have time to deal Blanton before that happens. Lets give R2C2 another try at those rings.

  14. Andrew from Waldorf

    February 5, 2012 at 3:02 am

    Someone here mentioned Chris Carpenter in the same sentence as Roy Oswalt?

    Fantasy Land is great but Vance deserved to start in the playoffs not Oswalt.

    Or there is Chris Carpenter who takes a poop on all of them.

    Including Halladay in game 5.

    Not that he is better.
    He beat Halladay in the ultimate game 5.

    But you have your line up.
    It is set.
    Cripple at first and second and third.
    SS who should be hitting 8th on a competeive team will lead off.

    But you want Oswalt.

    Do not worry about walks. They dont matter.

  15. bacardipr05

    February 5, 2012 at 6:28 am

    I would if they can somehow ship Joe. Would not give him a 2yr deal not with his injury history.

  16. dennisq

    February 5, 2012 at 7:27 am

    I would love Oswalt back this year. We need to get rid of Blanton. trade him for a low level moinor leaguer .If we get rid of him, then we could sign Oswalt for around Blanton’s money and we wouldn’t have to go over the luxuray tax. The problem is going to be finding someone that wants Blanton.

  17. HeelsPhils

    February 5, 2012 at 9:40 am

    A Blanton trade makes no sense unless you can get rid of most of his salary and that’s not happening.

  18. Jaron B

    February 5, 2012 at 10:20 am

    I would like the Phillies to move on from Oswalt; however, if he remains unsigned in spring training and the starters signed (Worley, Blanton, Kendrick, Pinero, Qualls) don’t do well, then bring Oswalt back. I have confidence that the Phillies have enough depth to deal with injuries to Blanton and Contreras and potential sophomore slumps. Rube did well this offseason, but some of the bench and bullpen signings should have been major league deals and others should have been minor league deals. We have 3 guaranteed starters and I have high confidence in the veterans in the ‘pen signed to ML deals. We should wait until the waning days of Feb. to bring back Oswalt if he is unsigned and many of the pitchers signed this offseason (and new arrivals) don’t perform well in S.T.

  19. Psujoe

    February 5, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Why would any team trade for Blanton at $8.5 mil instead of just signing Oswalt?

    • EricL

      February 5, 2012 at 12:23 pm

      Maybe they think he’s better? I don’t know. Why would a team trade for John Bowker, then keep him on the 40-man roster during the rule-5 draft when you need roster spots to protect your young players who might be drafted then later cut him so he can go play in Japan?

      Teams do silly things all the time.

      • Lefty

        February 5, 2012 at 12:33 pm

        Can you imagine what happens to the legacy of RA Jr. if Lendy Castillo turns into a HOFer?

      • George

        February 5, 2012 at 3:43 pm

        Silly, maybe, but not crazy. Psjoe makes a valid point: no one would trade for a decent but overpaid pitcher when they could sign a better guy for the same money and not lose even a third-rate prospect.

        The problem, though, is that Oswalt doesn’t want to pitch for just anybody. He turned down at least one offer, and has stated a preference to be close to home. Some team might be forced to make a silly move because of that simple fact. As the old song goes, “You can’t always get what you want.”

      • brooks

        February 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm

        Eric, sometimes you actually make sense and then you blurt out something like this “Blanton is a fine pitcher..”
        What is the brand of smokes you got going my friend?
        And for those of you who say JB is pretty good when he’s healthy – well he has been a pretty sick puppy for most of his stay in Phily so far.

      • George

        February 6, 2012 at 11:52 pm

        I’ll do something rare (for me, anyway) and come to EricL’s defense on this one. “Fine” can have somewhat different meanings at different times and for different people. Sometimes it’s even used in place of a mere “okay,” as in the line, “I’m fine with that.” When everyone is asking “How are you?” you get a little tired of explanations, and just say “fine” even though you really feel like excrement. I’ve got a pretty good idea that Eric, given the context of his other comments, was thinking along those kind of lines.

        And really, when you get down to it, Blanton IS a fine pitcher in the role he has. He’s a 4th/5th starter. Except for 2011, he’s stayed off the DL, kept his ERA in a 3rd-5th starter range, usually goes 6-7 innings (about 170-180 per year), and has come out of the pen without suffering. Sure, he’s no ace, but for a back of the rotation man, he is probably about as good as they come. He’s overpaid, probably, but pay doesn’t make him the bad pitcher so many think he is.

      • EricL

        February 7, 2012 at 1:13 pm

        [whispering forcefully] George, YOU COMPLETE ME! [/forceful whipser]

        Yeah, that’s exactly what I mean. Joe Blanton is not an ace, and he’s never been advertised or paid as one. Over the course of his career he’s been a very dependable pitcher who generally gives you 175-200 IP at league average performance. His career ERA+ is 99, which is exactly that, average. And an average pitcher is a useful (ie. “fine”), seeing as a full half of the pitchers in MLB at any one time are worse than that. He doesn’t walk many people (typically ~2.5ish per 9IP) and over the last 3 years has struck batters out at a slightly-better-than-league-average rate.

        None of that is to say he’s a particularly “good” pitcher by MLB standards, but he’s the kind of guy you shouldn’t be afraid to run out there every 5th day against the opposition’s 4th or 5th starter, and more often than not will keep you in the ballgame, which is what you want out of that guy. So there’s value in a pitcher like that, even if it’s not premium value, and his salary is a bit more than you would ideally want to pay a guy of that skill level, but again, it’s not horrible and he’s not a bad pitcher.

  20. Dave L

    February 5, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Sign Oswalt!
    You’ve got to be kidding me if you believe the Phillies are a better team with either Blanton or god forbid Kendrick as the number four starter! I think Blanton is more of an injury concern. And even when healthy isn’t anywhere near the caliber of Oswalt. Kendrick is a spot guy and long relief guy. Anything more than that and you’re exposing him for what he is, mediocre at his very best. This offseason, the Phillies upgraded their bench, acquired a proven top notch closer and stood pat with the starting eight. That starting eight can’t muster enough offense to support pitchers with ERA of 4+. If this team is going to win a world series, it has got to be right now! Take a shot with Oswalt,because this is it for this group as it’s constituted. They’re not going to get better or find Jesus and learn a better approach to hitting, regardless of what Charlie says or who is the hitting instructor. They are who they are and we need great pitching,not good pitching to win it.

    • George

      February 5, 2012 at 3:51 pm

      One thing you missed: They now have Mayberry/Nix instead of Ibanez, so they didn’t stand pat. And once Utley returned and they added Pence, their offense was more than adequate and, in fact, lead the league in runs.

    • Brian Sr. of CO

      February 7, 2012 at 1:05 pm

      Maybe you missed the 2011 season, but the Phillies won 102 games. Maybe you missed the 2nd half of the season when the Phillies score the most amount of runs in the NL. (what happened again…Oh thats right, Chase Utley and Hunter Pence.). Maybe you missed the NLDS, but our Pitching lost Game 2 and Game 3. You realize if Cliff Lee had pitched like Cliff Lee in game 2, they would have won the series (more than likely). Maybe you missed the fact that the Cardinals were the hottest team in baseball, and ended up winning the WS? If you keep talking about how bad the offense is, and how they stood pat on the starting 8, why would they sign another pitcher, if “That starting eight can’t muster enough offense to support pitchers with ERA of 4+.” Wouldn’t you want to try to improve the offense? Where? The Phillies had a darn good offense once Pence showed up. Seriously, regardless of order, if the starting 7 (I will leave out Howard since he is starting on the DL.) is healthy, you have J-Roll, Polly, Utley, Pence, Victorino, Mayberry, Ruiz. Where would you like to “upgrade”, keeping in mind the AVAILABLE people, for those positions we had openings? LF? Who was available? SS? Who was available that was better than J-Roll (also being a leader in the Phillies clubhouse)? Maybe 3rd base? Maybe Ramirez? But then you get rid of a Gold Glove 3rd basemen, to sign a mediocre defensive 3rd basemen, to sign a career .284 hitter with some extra power, who had a career year hitting .306 (during a contract year mind you), to get rid of Polanco who is a career .301 hitter who had a down year due to injury. If Polanco is healthy, he will be a plus defender, and a good hitter more than likely hitting above .290. Go around the diamond keeping in mind the current contract, and the players available. The ONLY position where the Phillies might have been able to “upgrade” IF the idiotic contract was not signed 2 years ago effective this coming year, was 1st base, but then would you sign a player to a 9 or 10 year contract (Pujols/Fielder)? Not to mention, at some point you can ignore the retoric of MLB network with the exact quote of “They are who they are”. Obviously teams and players change. Look at 2008. The same players you are complaining about now, also won the WS with a great offense and good pitching. As you look at players as they spend more time in the Majors, they usual walk more. But the Phillies are not, they are regressing. They need Charlie to talk hitting. They need a real hitting coach. They need to talk to each other, and for the love of all things baseball, do NOT give Ryan “I can’t hit a breaking ball to save my life” Howard a Green Light when ever he wants to swing. Do NOT swing at a 3-0 pitch when the starting pitcher is hitting the strike zone as well as Howard hits Breaking balls. THAT is Charlie, and that CAN be changed. To say “they are who they are” is just giving up!

  21. Ray

    February 5, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    I say and will continue to say to bring back Oswalt if he’s healthy. He’s still a good picture and really don’t we want to see the four aces together once more to see what they can really do. If he signs with the nationals we may be in really big trouble .I my mind they are the up and coming team just like the Phillies were all those number 1 picks are coming of age and that team will be a team to be reckon with. I believe as long as we have our stud pitchers we will fight them off but one day i’m afraid they shall overcome us. We shouldn’t complain afterall its been the best baseball ever for a aphillies team .I’m so lucky to have lived to see this kind of baseball.

  22. Lefty

    February 5, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    Hamels, Myers, Moyer, Blanton- That fearsome foursome won the World Series in 08, and JC Romero got 2 of the wins. Me-thinks they can survive with Halladay, Hamels and Lee.

    • EricL

      February 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm

      I don’t want to just survive, I want to DOMINATE!!!

      Or, if you want to keep it Phillies themed, “DOMONIATE!” lol

      • Lefty

        February 5, 2012 at 7:05 pm

        Well, I don’t care what Denomoniations they use to pay these guys, so long as they don’t go over the L.T.threshold!

  23. Aidan

    February 5, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Why are so many people bashing on Kendrick? Sure he has been a little inconsistent at times but people forget how well he has done for the contract he has had. I love the off season moves to get us the depth on the bench and if that means letting Oswalt go, then so be it. I have full confidence that we can lose him and not miss a beat.

    • EricL

      February 5, 2012 at 5:53 pm

      Because he’s been a bad pitcher with the exception of the 2nd half of last season he’s been a bad pitcher?

      We’re also comparing him to one of the best pitchers of the last decade in Oswalt, so it’s that comparison doesn’t really do him any favors.

  24. Tom Taylor

    February 5, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    I don’t see any real bad points here (Phil’s fans always know there team) I think it’s a matter of what r u gonna get from Joe vs the same from Roy…. Vance is our solid 5 , so if u can move Joe then sign Roy….. …….. But how about if we can keep Joe . Let him rotate in the pen again and keep joe and Kyle as long and 5&6 inng guys. U could max the pens health if we can get long strechs from the starters and have depth in the pen. Forget the luxury tax… If they want to win then Ruben will make them understand. Depth skill and fire would be opening day if Roy signed Joe and Kendrick go to the pen…..

  25. Jim

    February 6, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Honestly, this is a no brainer. Luxury tax or no, hes an ace, and your getting him at low risk high reward. He ONLY wants a 1 year deal! TAKE IT!!! By the way, everyone mentions his age, he is only entering his age 34 season, hardly an senior citizen.

  26. Manny

    February 6, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    It baffles me why Oswalt hasn’t signed yet with anyone. Perhaps he shot himself in the foot after saying that he only wants to play close to home. But a pitcher of his caliber, with his numbers, and his very recent success… on a low-risk, one-year deal worth between 8-12 million.. it should be a no-brainer for any team looking to solidify their chances of making the postseason (I’m looking at you, Nationals… and Florida, Red Sox, Giants, Rangers, Cardinals, etc etc etc… No room in your rotation for a guy like Oswalt? REALLY?)

    • George

      February 6, 2012 at 11:30 pm

      The teams you mention already have some fairly decent rotations (SF has an excellent one), some have more pressing needs, and others are dangerously close to the luxury tax.

      And $8-12 million could never be called low-risk. That’s a lot of money even in today’s baseball world. Would you spend even $8 million for a guy with a bad back when you’ve got no room in your rotation and a needed position player with no injury history could be signed for the same money?

  27. John_hosier1984

    February 6, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    I would love to be able to sign Oswalt. Hands down I take him any day over Blanton or Kendrick, back or no back. He’s a proven ace with at least another year or two left in the tank.

    With that being said, and as others have said, I only want to sign Oswalt if it doesn’t hurt our chances of keeping Cole. Cole is only getting better and is the future for this team. Sign Oswalt, trade Blanton for a bat boy, and figure out how to keep Cole Hamels.

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