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2012 Spring Training

Worley Rocked by Twins, Phils Lose 11-7

Luna and Podsednik are vying for a spot.

Not the way Vance Worley wants to wind down his spring. It’s been up and down and this last start represents the lowest depths possible.

Worley pitched four innings giving up 11 runs, six earned, in the Phillies 11-7 loss to Minnesota. Now, again, how much stock do you put in a spring training game? If you put a lot in what is likely to be his second-to-last outing before real games begin, than this is something to look at. Not having seen what Worley was throwing firsthand, it’s hard to tell if he was still working on some things.

Side note: it’s funny how ST works. If a guy is lights out, you’ll say, hell it’s just spring training. But I get the feeling more people put stock in bad starts rather than good ones. So cynical.

Anyway, Hector Luna is certainly making a case to stick around as the last bench bat. He hit another home run today and there is some chatter on the interwebs today that Charlie Manuel will have a tough choice to make with him. Luna played some left field, third base, first base, and now, second base. If he’s able to play those positions seamlessly, he could provide a nice change of pace. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves, there is a reason Hector Luna is a journeyman.

In just over one full season’s worth of plate appearances (806 to be exact), Luna actually has fairly respectable numbers: .265 avg, 13 home runs, 86 RBI, .705 OPS.

For those of you who are fans of Carlos Ruiz batting high in the order, he did so today. Ruiz was slotted in the two-spot and went 2-for-3 with a double and an RBI.

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  1. bacardipr05

    March 28, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Im also extremely Leery about Luna. Seems like he is doing great now in ST will win a job then will stink up shortly after the regular season starts. Since Luna can be labeled a utility guy of sorts he may make the team. Then again probably no worse than Mini Mart with the bat at least. With Luna at least at one point in his career he showed he could hit MLB pitching.

    • Pat Gallen

      March 28, 2012 at 7:10 pm

      Right, at this point I’d rather take Luna knowing he’s got some pop and can play multiple positions – although, probably none very well. But again, Mini Mart was not a great defender either. Luna > Martinez?

    • TradeDomBrown

      March 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm

      I don’t see much difference between Orr and Luna. Orr has speed and can play SS, but Luna has more power. I almost think Orr is more valuable with his speed and ability to play SS.

      • Manny

        March 29, 2012 at 9:49 am

        Problem is: Orr is a lefty…and Luna is a righty… In games where you start Mayberry and Wigginton the bench would be all lefties.

    • Ian Riccaboni

      March 28, 2012 at 10:49 pm

      I think offensively, you’ll get about the same from Orr and Luna, although Orr is much faster, is a much better fielder, and has a much better arm than Luna. I love that Orr hits a lot of line drives.

  2. bacardipr05

    March 28, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Agreed Pat…No way theyll cut Mini-Mart right?

    • Teen Wolf Blitzer

      March 28, 2012 at 9:17 pm

      Unfortunately, Martinez will be a Phillie for life. Nobody is quite sure why, however.

    • Ian Riccaboni

      March 28, 2012 at 10:49 pm

      No chance they’ll cut him, although, they could option him to Triple-A at any point this season without having to offer him back to the Nationals, as would have been the case last season.

  3. Bruce

    March 29, 2012 at 12:26 am

    I read that Charlie Manuel is impressed with Luna and watching him very closely as he plays several positions. Currently, his spring training stats are eye opening as well; hitting .286 with three homers, a .348 on-base percentage and a .548 slugging percentage. With Micheal Martinez, also a multi-position utility player, out for 6-8 weeks, it’s logical to have Luna added to the 25 man roster when the season opens.

    And if Luna continues to hit well and play decent defense in April..I can hear the Phillies fans scream in unison…LUU-U-U na….LUU-U-U na! (chuckles)

  4. Manny

    March 29, 2012 at 9:51 am

    Who is Luna fighting with for a spot as a utility guy? Orr and….?

    And then there’s also a spot for one of Pods, Pierre, and Montanez. Is that right?

  5. Ryan H.

    March 29, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    I’m telling you right now we will not be able to depend on worley to perform this year like he did last year. he doesn’t have the stuff and he has no track record of that kind of performance. dude is barely better than kendrick. we all fell in love with his demeanor and wacky personality and lost focus of the fact that he simply doesn’t have the stuff to keep up this pace. he did it last year with smoke and mirrors. he won’t continue it. we should have traded him when he was worth something

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