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Bats Rock Gee as Lee Nearly Goes Distance

No breeze and 81 degrees at game time makes for one thing – hittin’ weather. The Phillies abused Dillon Gee and slugged their way to an 8-3 victory over the New York Mets.


-The Phillies went yard three times in the third inning, including back-to-back homers from Ryan Howard and Michael Young. John Mayberry also pitched in. For Howard, it was his first of the season, a blast to left-center field, the spot he hits it to when he’s holding his hands back and letting the ball through the zone. Howard has been struggling mightily, so this could be a jumping-off point for him.

-Michael Young is fell a double shy of the cycle, finishing 3-for-4 with two RBI. He’s now hitting .345 through the first eight games. Before the game, he was about as positive as I’ve ever seen a player with a team starting the season 2-5.

-Props to Mayberry, as well. He had a home run and double off a right-handed pitcher, something he has struggled to do in his career. He’s a career .232 hitter against RHP’s.

-How’s this for weird. The only guy in the Phillies lineup without a hit: Chase Utley.

-Dillon Gee was run after just three innings, giving up seven earned runs. Coming into the game, Gee had been tortured by the Phils to the tune of a 6.46 ERA in six career starts.


-Cliff Lee went 8 2/3 innings and was far from perfect, allowing three runs on eight hits with six strikeouts. However, did not walk a batter and reached 2-0 on the season easily with the help of his offense.

-Charlie Manuel did not allow him to finish the game, instead opting to go with Mike Adams for the final out. And Charlie heard about it from the fans, leaving to a chorus of boos. That was perhaps the loudest negative reaction I’ve ever heard toward Manuel. Adams had pitched just once this year, and it seems as though Manuel did not want to waste him after warming up.

-The win moves Lee to 5-1 against the Mets in his career, with 62 strikeouts in 65 innings.




  1. Bo

    April 9, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Lee was only charged with 2 earned runs though right? Due to error from JRoll?

    • David

      April 9, 2013 at 11:57 pm

      Error was given to JRoll but Howard has to make that play. Fantastic effort by Lee. He gave up 2 earned runs and he pitched into the 9th. He gave up no walks again.

      Have to be surprised by John Buck. When did he learn to hit like this? I didn’t think Halladay’s pitch last night to him was that bad and he goes the opposite way again tonight.

  2. MikeyPaDc

    April 9, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    @Bo…Bo Knows!!

    I believe you are right man.

  3. Whatever

    April 9, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    So happy to see the Phils display some power tonight … and what can you say about Cliff Lee other than – he’s really good at baseball!

  4. Lefty

    April 9, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    Thank goodness for Cliff Lee. Any chance he can go tomorrow? 🙂

    • glutenous

      April 9, 2013 at 11:21 pm

      If only he could pitch every game.

    • Andrew From Waldorf

      April 10, 2013 at 1:00 am

      I hope not.

      Charlie might limit him to 105 though if he is.

      That would be a good thing.

  5. JohnMatrix

    April 9, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    Lee off?sorry he didnt pitch a perfect game. Id be pleased as punch if the rest of the staff was “off” like lee

    • "Big Ed" Delahanty

      April 10, 2013 at 5:25 pm

      I also agree. Lee was NOT off, unless I watched a different game. Considering the way some of our starters have begun the season, even if he was off (and he wasn’t) then I’ll take over the recent performances by our other starters any day. Plus, he had an RBI single – a true competitor.

      • "Big Ed" Delahanty

        April 10, 2013 at 5:27 pm

        I meant his recent starts over the others… (god damn iPhone auto correct)

  6. Chris

    April 9, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Utley didn’t get a hit, but still walked twice and scored. Gotta love the guy 🙂

  7. Andrew From Waldorf

    April 10, 2013 at 12:57 am

    Winner winner chicken dinner

    Maybe another manager may have taken out thier ace before he got to 106 pitches in an early season game?

    But the fans booed taking him out.

    The fans have GMed and managed this team long enough.
    Good job Charlie.
    Should have taken him out before the start of the inning and trusted someone.

    You win and that makes it all better.


    The years of you leaving the starters in too long have taken their toll.

    Roy Halladay

  8. bacardipr

    April 10, 2013 at 3:10 am

    Might be a little simplistic but maybe that Howard got the HR monkey off his back he’ll start to swing the bat better.

    • Chuck A.

      April 10, 2013 at 5:56 am

      Who cares if it seems a little “simplistic” … it very well could be true. I know Howard has been pressing and he HAS to be discouraged at the results. Glad he got that HR, hopefully it’s the start of something good…

  9. TheDipsy

    April 10, 2013 at 7:32 am

    So, I was listening to Dutch last night on the Fanatic and he said:

    1. That Doc’s arm slot has dropped way down;
    2. And that this “usually” means that a pitchers shoulder is “barking”. I guess that’s dutch for “hurting”;
    3. That Doc would never admit that his shoulder was hurting up and until the point where he felt he just couldn’t pitch anymore.

    Just puttin it out there.

    The Dipsy

    • Chuck A.

      April 10, 2013 at 7:40 am

      Dipsy, Dutch may come across as a space cadet sometimes but I think he’s usually pretty spot on with the things he says. And he should know being a former catcher and all. Sh!t, that doesn’t sound too good. How many more starts does Doc get before something happens? I know they want to give him a as long a leash as they can because they feels he deserves it (and I’m all for that to a point). But where’s the line?

    • Rudy Canoza

      April 10, 2013 at 9:04 am

      Schilling said the same thing in spring training.

  10. Jeff of Nova

    April 10, 2013 at 8:27 am

    We hear a lot about bad contracts and money spent etc on here, but if you take a look at pay vs performance its interesting

    Cliff Lee-25mil— pitiching like the Ace
    Howard- 20mil – looking lost, pressing too much, historical a slow starter
    Halladay 20mil- see every thread on here
    Hamels-19.5mil- 2 rough outings, also pressing too much, needs to relax and trust his stuff
    M. Young- 16mil (10by Texas)- coming on strong…. I am excited to see him continue this, his fielding has been consistent… I think he will be a key in help Howard relax too.
    Utley- 15mil- best player on the team right now
    Paps- 13mil- 1 save in 1 oppt. still struggles in nonsave situations
    Rollins-11mil- having a solid start.

    So really its Howard, Halladay, and Hamels.
    Howard I think he will be what he was before injury, Hamels will be fine, Halladay is really the biggest ? but leads me to our other ? that is catcher, no Ruiz is really hurting us right now, he would be the one to really help Halladay and Hamels.

    • Lefty

      April 10, 2013 at 12:28 pm

      Jeff, spot on. Especially on Lee and M Young. A good comparison for Lee was given by the Mets broadcasters last night. He’s the best pitcher since Nolan Ryan who led the league in ERA and went 8-16 one time, that just didn’t have things break his way.

      Concerning Michael Young and his defensive deficiencies. Yes, Polanco may have gotten to a few balls he can’t. But with the offensive production and leadership he brings, it’s worth it to me. if he remains healthy (unlike his predecessor) they got a real bargain there, and got rid of Lindblom who is now pitching in AAA for Texas.

  11. Betasigmadeltashag

    April 10, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    I can not believe that there was so many bandwagon fans out there. Really 81 degrees and under 40,000. I really thought Philly had turned the corner and fans enjoyed the game and team. But I guess all those people complaining about the number of non-fans showing up at the ballpark the last five yeats were right. I think it is crazy that people are writing this season off after 8 games

    • schmenkman

      April 10, 2013 at 1:15 pm

      There might be some of that, but I think the bigger issue with attendance is that last year’s poor showing, combined with the lack of a big splash in the off-season, led many to not renew their season tickets.

    • Lefty

      April 10, 2013 at 1:21 pm

      Beta, I don’t think most are writing it off yet. I think the average crowd is normalizing. Just supposition on my part, but I think the profit takers (legal scalpers that use the internet) were buying a bunch of tickets in years past and making profit by selling “hard to get” seats. This would explain why we were seeing so many open seats last year but they kept saying the games were sold out. The bandwagon fans were buying seats from the “scalpers” who no longer are buying with intent to sell.

    • Rudy Canoza

      April 10, 2013 at 3:08 pm

      I wouldn’t call them band wagon fans. Attendance is almost always tied to performance, and this team has been mediocre at best for over a year now. People who normally went to 15 games a year may have decided to to only go to 10 this year – especially in a bad economy.

      My work group of about 30 did not buy our tickets (for all the BPS games) in the winter like we’ve been doing for the past nine years. We’re still going to those games, but we know from watching the StubHub prices last year that we’ll get some huge discounts this season.

  12. Betasigmadeltashag

    April 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Wait isn’t that by definition a band wagon fan. “They are not as good this year so I am not going to the games,”. the economy was in the dumpster the whole time the sell out was started. And for the fact that you can get tickets easier for face value cause the legal scalpers are not buying them make it cheaper and easier for real baseball fans to get them. Make all the excuses you want I went to games when they were losing 90-100 games a year and I went when they were winning. Yes I got season ticket package when they started winning because that was the only way I could afford to go to the games. But now I have it I will not stop getting them because they are not considered WS contenders. A lot of the reasons are good ones for not selling out weeks before a game but fail in explaing away day of attendance. My piint being the people who filled the park when they are winning are not the true baseball fans

    • Rudy Canoza

      April 10, 2013 at 6:05 pm

      Beta – I’ve been going to games since 1972, which was was one of the worst teams in franchise history. If you say a working man with a family of four is not a “true fan” because he’s cut back on games during a time when the team is not exciting to watch, then that’s your personal definition. That guy probably decided it makes more sense to catch the game on TV than to shell out $300 for a night at the park. I don’t see how he’s less of a fan – he’s making a basic economic decision. If the product on the field improves, more fans will be enticed to make the opposite decision – go to the park rather than listen on radio or watch on TV. If you’re still expecting sellouts for a mediocre product, it’s just not going to happen.

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