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Pettibone Solid in Debut, Phils Beat Pirates in Series Opener

Jonathan Pettibone’s major league debut was a success in the Phillies 3-2 win.

Pettibone’s Performance

-Really impressive outing for Jonathan Pettibone. After the first few batters it didn’t look like he’d make it one inning, let alone 5 1/3. The rookie struck out six, did not issue a walk, and allowed only six hits. Two of those hits were solo home runs.

-Before the game, Charlie Manuel expressed the need for Pettibone to stay in control and keep emotions in check. The cold weather couldn’t have helped, either, as the chill of the air probably made for a wonderful grip. But Pettibone made it work and the results showed.

Phils O Puts Up Enough

-In the fourth, Burnett loaded the bases with nobody out on a single by Michael Young, a walk to Domonic Brown, and a single by Ben Revere. Erik Kratz put together a tough at-bat, fouling off six pitches before striking out. Pettibone did his best in the box, but struck out. The final hope of the inning, Jimmy Rollins, got plunked on the knee on an errant 94 mph sinker. That probably felt amazing in this weather. The result was the Phillies second run. John Mayberry would strike out to end the inning. The Phillies really needed two runs there, no excuse for coming away with less against a pitcher on the ropes.

-And why did they need that run? Because Russell Martin went yard during the first at bat the following inning for the Pirates.

-Hitting with runners in scoring position happens to be a major chore for this club. The Phils were 1-for-10 before Rollins knocked in Kratz in the sixth on a single to make it 3-2 Phillies. Either way, situational hitting remains puzzling experience.




  1. Lefty

    April 22, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    Sweet victory against the team that just beat the Braves three straight.

    Way too early to dismantle anything. The other teams are struggling too. Maybe ridiculous to say in April, but 2 and a half out of the wild card spot right now. Way too early to talk of selling parts yet.

  2. Glutenous

    April 22, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    This type of game looks like it has to be the Phillies MO going forward. They aren’t gonna score tons of runs regularly, so they need to get solid starting pitching performances to get the game to the back end of the bullpen. This team has to rely on that and hope the offense does just enough.

    With that being said, I’ll take the solid pitching performances from wherever they come. Hats off to Pettibone tonight. Wasn’t sure what to expect from him tonight but he was effective, gave the team a chance to win the ballgame, and the offense came through.

    Nice to see Biddle tearing it up down in Reading, I think the kids got a bright future with the Phillies.

  3. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    April 22, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    I concur. Pettibone had a very nice outing, and I’m thrilled we won. Although being 2 for 15 with the bases loaded is beyond a head-scratcher.

    • Glutenous

      April 22, 2013 at 11:13 pm

      Yeah the hitting with RISP is ridiculous. At least the opportunities are there and if they start doing even a little better in those situations it will lead to an influx of runs.

  4. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    April 22, 2013 at 11:17 pm

    Almost forgot…kudos to Michael Young for extending his hitting streak to 13 games. I hope he continues to play well, as I wasn’t overtly keen initially on the trade for him. Still have no excitement, nor any real care to see Delmon in the outfield.

    • Phillies fan from Germany

      April 23, 2013 at 3:44 am

      When Mayberry made that nice diving catch in right I was trying to imagine what Delmon Young would have done on that play. But who cares about defense when Young is “producing” RBI’s by avoiding walks under all circumstances…

  5. bacardipr

    April 23, 2013 at 12:02 am

    Seems like just keeping them in the game isn’t a option anymore with this offense. Its throw 2 run or less for the starters.

  6. brooks

    April 23, 2013 at 5:04 am

    Every time I looked at the game the Phils had men on base. Looking at the box score I see there were 24 LOB ???? 24??
    John Mayberry Junior is not someone who should hit second in the lineup.

    • Chris

      April 23, 2013 at 10:13 am

      Agreed, but what do you expect from Elmer?

  7. jake

    April 23, 2013 at 5:27 am

    1) The Phillies are traditionally a bad april offensive team. Cold weather means balls travel a shade less far, and nw winds knock quite a few down.
    2) The Phillies offensively are going to struggle as long as Rollins and Howard continue to struggle. That’s the same song we’ve been singing since 2011 at least. Howard simply isn’t the power hitter he once was. Rollins, well, is Rollins. A pop-up prone hitter who doesn’t have the OBP of a true lead-off hitter.
    3) REvere’s struggles at getting on base and striking out are not expected. It is if he came here and the Phillies coaching staff lengthened his swing and encouraged him to take fewer pitches. I mean that would be absurd if it happened (I feel like it’s 1000% it did).
    4) It’s early and there is no reason to not think that this team will not live up to its preseason expectations…whatever those were. I had them winning about 88 games. I don’t see a reason to change that.
    5) Pettibone had a good night. Nice to see a kid come up and pitch well. He left a few too many balls up in the zone for my taste and suspect he would get hit a lot harder if the pirates got to face him again in two weeks. Still, always nice to see a kid get the call up and perform.

    • schmenkman

      April 23, 2013 at 10:14 am

      1) Since 2007, they’ve average 4.81 runs per game overall, and 4.76 runs per game in April. Not that big a difference.

      2) Rollins “is what he is”. He’s hitting about as well this year as he ever has (by OPS+), with the lone exception of 2007. And I think we need more than 3 weeks to know what Howard is. The last time he was healthy (2011) he hit as well as in 2008, by OPS+.

      3) Revere is actually not swinging more often than he has in the past, even though he’s seeing at least as many strikes as in prior years. He’s just not making contact as often, or quite as well.

      4) Agree, no reason yet to revise expectations, and I would be in the same ballpark of 88 or so wins.

  8. Philaflava

    April 23, 2013 at 9:19 am

    I’m setting up a fund that will allow us to put a hit out on John Mayberry Jr. Please help so we can get this done ASAP.

    • Chuck A.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:02 am

      Huh? Why? So far, Mayberry is hitting .286 with a .375 OBP. He has speed on the bases and is playing very solid defense. He’s also hitting righties better than in the past:

      Career vs RHP – .236 avg/.307 OBP/.388 SLG
      2013 vs RHP – .286 avg/ .375 OBP/ .514 SLG

    • Lefty

      April 23, 2013 at 11:28 am

      Oh for Christ sake- Is that supposed to be funny? You’re going to put hit out on someone? After what just happened in Boston? The world has changed you know, every threat is taken seriously nowadays. They have people combing the web looking for people just like you.

      • Chuck A.

        April 23, 2013 at 12:31 pm

        Jesus. I didn’t even think about the Boston implications. I was just responding to another inane comment by someone when he doesn’t even have his facts straight. But yeah…definitely a rather insensitive comment on his part…

  9. Art

    April 23, 2013 at 10:22 am

    Someone please remind me why Ryan Howard is on this team? Oh that’s right, because we can’t get rid of him. It’s bad enough we need to pinch run for him. We should also pinch field for him and pinch throw. 20 million dollars a year for a single here and there. Wonderful. And next year we get to start paying him 25 million a year!

    • schmenkman

      April 23, 2013 at 10:51 am

      Yes, he’s overpaid, and that’s RAJ’s fault, but he’s here because chances are good that by the end of the year he will be one of the top 1 or 2 hitters on the team.

      • Mark

        April 23, 2013 at 11:37 am

        Based on what? If Howard is one of the two best hitters on this team, the Phillies are in serious trouble.

      • schmenkman

        April 23, 2013 at 11:58 am

        Based on overall hitting performance, whether you use OPS+, wOBA or wRC+, and whether you base it on recent years, or projections for 2013.

        Stats for 2010-12, i.e. even including Howard’s 2012, when he came back before he had healed:

        Ruiz: .365 wOBA, 128 wRC+, 127 OPS+
        Utley: .351 wOBA, 119 wRC+, 116 OPS+
        Howard: .351 wOBA, 118 wRC+, 120 OPS+
        MYoung: .335 wOBA, 102 wRC+, 102 OPS+

        I expect Ruiz to regress some, and expect the best hitter to be either Utley or Howard.

        Or, there are a number of projection systems that use a player’s age and recent years’ perfornance to project 2013, and those generally have either Ultey or Howard as the best hitter in 2013.

      • wbramh

        April 23, 2013 at 12:14 pm

        I wouldn’t exactly call Ryan Howard a great hitter but if he stays healthy he’ll once again be a great RBI machine and unless Chase Utley returns to 2005-2009 form, nobody else on this team is going to challenge Howard for the RBI lead… or even come close (unless the remainder of Dom’s season resembles his Grapefruit performance).

        Not unlike most power hitters, Howard will always have ugly strikeouts and miserable slumps (think Schmitty). As for his salary – yeah, talk to Ruben. That’s another issue. A healthy Ryan Howard is critical to any success this Phillies team could possibly have. Considering the current and broader state of things, I would measure success as staying closer to second place than fourth place.

      • Art

        April 23, 2013 at 1:53 pm

        Howard’s decline in walks is another alarming stat. They just keep going down. This year he’s on pace for 27 walks. I know that probably won’t happen, but no one is afraid to pitch to him and he won’t lay off the pitches down in the dirt. Even Adam Dunn draws 100 walks a year. Which is why his career OBP is higher than Howard’s even with the lower career average.

      • schmenkman

        April 23, 2013 at 2:12 pm

        He walked more in 2006-07, mostly because he was being intentionally walked a lot in those two years.

        This is his non-intentional walk rate since 2005:

        7.2%, 10.1%, 11.1%, 9.1%, 9.5%, 7.7%, 9.2%, 6.2%

        6.2% is 2012, when again, he was still recovering. Aside from that, I don’t see an “alarming” trend.

  10. Dave

    April 23, 2013 at 11:13 am

    On a side note: I read that Delmon Young had 7 balls hit at him and misplayed 2 of them. I can’t see putting him out there at this point unless he makes some big improvements in his defense – not to mention he’s recovering from an ankle injury. If this were the AL and you could DH him regularly, that would be a decent plan. I just think this was a stupid move by Amaro to sign Young. Charlie will want his bat early in the game and then take him out in the 7th, but it’s not gonna work if he’s costing you leads early in the game! I just think with our offense as anemic as it’s been, we need (even more so than usual) to play solid defense because most of the games are gonna be close. I guess Young can pinch hit, and DH during interleague play, but that’s about it.

    • wbramh

      April 23, 2013 at 11:48 am

      Look at the bright side.
      Delmon’s glove was 5/7ths full.

      I don’t see the hitting getting much better. It was a big problem last year and never really addressed in FO. What Delmon Young adds to the order s essentially the equivalent of John Mayberry but without the speed.

      I suppose it’s too late to convince the Uptons to come here, huh?

  11. Lefty

    April 23, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    I don’t know if this is the right place for this, but just in case people haven’t seen it, this is a fascinating stat for Jimmy Rollins- In modern day baseball, it looks like NO ONE is better. Check it out.–Mr-Clutch0423.html

    • George

      April 23, 2013 at 1:56 pm

      I think this stat is a bit misleading unless the percentages of RBI opportunities with various numbers of outs are put into the equation.

      Being the leadoff man, the only chances Rollins gets to drive anyone (besides himself) in are after the bottom of the lineup bats. There’s almost always going to be at least one out (the pitcher) when he steps up to the plate. If Utley comes up, there will be two outs less often, because better hitters are in front of him, and chances are, there aren’t going to be as many two out RBI situations.

      • schmenkman

        April 23, 2013 at 2:15 pm

        True, there are better ways to show his clutchiness, for example the fact that he has hit better with runners in scoring position, and with RISP and two outs, than in other situations.

  12. LouA

    April 23, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    I agree about Howard, he should have gone. He got in a bad habit and will never get out of it.
    talking about his swinging. During the game on ESPN the other night the mentioned it and btw it was a pleasure listening to the game for a change without the twin trivia analyst, if that is what they are called.
    Delmon is nothing was nothing and will be nothing. Mayberry has been pretty darn good. JRo is himself and will be OK..M.Young’s hitting fine Ryan again only gets RBI’s when they don’t need them. IMHO when they have 7 or 8 already he will then get a few. I would frown like him all day for that kind of money. RAJ is anohter guy who should take a long walk and not come back…I could go on but will quit here.

    • schmenkman

      April 23, 2013 at 1:45 pm

      “Ryan again only gets RBI’s when they don’t need them.” — simply not true.

      When either team is leading by 2 runs or less: .953 OPS, 4.9 PAs per RBI, 15.1 PAs per HR

      When either team is leading by 3 runs or more: .830 OPS, 5.6 PAs per RBI, 17.1 PAs per HR

      So he hits better, and gets more RBIs (and more home runs) when the game is close.

      • schmenkman

        April 23, 2013 at 1:54 pm

        (either team leading by 2 runs or less would obviously also include tie games)

      • Chuck A.

        April 23, 2013 at 4:30 pm

        And, once again, this proves that so many people just say things without taking the time to properly research them.

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