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Gameday: Phillies (52-63) at Nationals (55-60)

Philadelphia Phillies (52-63) vs Washington Nationals (55-60) washington_nationals_logo-9726

Cliff Lee (10-5, 3.13) vs. Taylor Jordan (1-3, 3.76)

Time: 7:05, Nationals Park
Weather: 81, chance of storms
Media: Twitter and Facebook

Prior to the start of the 2013 season, the Washington Nationals and Philadelphia Phillies were predicted by many to compete in the National League East; however, both teams have failed to meet those expectations.  Both teams have been counted out of the race, but they are giving some of their younger players a chance to play.

Friday was another ugly night for the Phillies as they were blown out by the Nats, 9-2.  They’ll turn to Cliff Lee for a better outing, but he has even been struggling lately.  Lee is 0-3 with a 6.00 ERA in his last three starts (18 innings).  He has been a victim of the long ball, even in parks that aren’t exactly hitter-friendly.

 Go Phillies!



  1. Ken Bland

    August 10, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    I never gave much possibility to it even getting this far, and he’s still a real longshot, but it might be time to somewhat safely expect Darin Ruf to be mentioned as an ROY candidate.
    Considering his late call up, just being mentioned and not drawing laughter is pretty good accomplishment.

    You just can’t argue with his consistency at the plate, despite only a half year with the big club.

    How Ruf would have done had he played all year, we’ll never know, maybe the extra half year of grooming helped, maybe not, but it’s encouraging that he’s now had almost 2 good second halves in a row.

    • schmenkman

      August 10, 2013 at 8:14 pm

      Just to be clear, “almost 2 good second halves” is 12 games (37 PAs), and then 27 games (109 PAs), for a total of 146 PAs, or a combined total of about 1/5 to 1/4 of a season.

    • schmenkman

      August 10, 2013 at 8:17 pm

      Ah – you must mean including his AA and AAA hitting — gotcha.

  2. Tracey

    August 10, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    (tuning in Phillies game a little late…) WOW! Winning 4-0 in the 2nd? You think that’s enough of a lead for this sorry team?

  3. Ken Bland

    August 10, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    I don’t know if any sports books have in game regular season baseball lines for the true ultimate junkies, but if they had a line on this game entering this inning,, you could probably have gotten a really good price on the Phils. Like maybe 100 to win 150. Sort of like having a 4 game lead with 5 to play, and having the feeling the 2nd place team has ’em right where they want ‘e,.

    We’ll see how it shakes out. Maybe that’s the contrarian indicator kiss o death leading to a Phils win.

  4. Ken Bland

    August 10, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Think Bryce Harper has a high baseball iq?

  5. Tracey

    August 10, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    aw crap…

  6. Tracey

    August 10, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    crap crap crap

  7. Ken Bland

    August 10, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    No matter hiow many Phillie fans he’s rubbed the wrong way since leaving, that is straight up excellence, J Dub nailing hit 1,000 on a dinger in the midst of a hot streak.

    If he wasn’t so well paiud, his game, despite a lot of injuries would be more appreciated.

    But the bottom line is all J Dub’s money will buy a lot of rea; estate in Springfield. Glad to see him doing well.

  8. Tracey

    August 10, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    ugh. you have got to be kidding me…

  9. Ken Bland

    August 10, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    Diekman and Zack in 1 inning just cracks me up.

    Be kinda like Qualls and Durbin in 1 frame.

    How did Zack get Tug’s number? That’s worst than Wockenfuss getting 14 after Pete left.

    • Double Trouble Del

      August 10, 2013 at 10:34 pm

      God I loved his batting stance though. John Wockenfuss’ that is.

    • c. schreiber

      August 11, 2013 at 3:49 pm

      Or Pete after Del Ennis .. Should have been retired in honor of Del.

  10. Tracey

    August 10, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    huh. And here I was, convinced that the Phils would go down 1-2-3 after that 5-run blow-out 7th.

  11. Andrew from Waldorf

    August 10, 2013 at 9:46 pm


    Over and over and over again like the bad signings.

    What pisses me off the most is we now have Howard Rollins and Utley locked up for the next 2 years.

    They will make $25,000,000.00 $15,000,000.00 and $11,000,000.00 respectively.

    This year they have 45, 42 and 32 RBI this year.

    Talk about getting bang for your buck.

    Now some dope cry about injuries? I guess cause you can expect them to not get hurt the next few years as they get older and more feeble.

    Ruben is a JOKE.

    It is a disgrace that he continues to have a job.

    I seriously think he owes me 100$

    The Mets aren’t even going to have wright the rest of the year.
    But this isn’t close.









  12. Andrew from Waldorf

    August 10, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    Let me add to that

    The team will Bat Rollins first Utley 3rd and Howard 4th


    Jimmy has a .303 On bases and a .590 OPS so what?

    Howard has a .713 OPS???? so what

    Utley plays 65 games a year???????

    So what

    Ruben how do you even look in the mirror.

    Just quit retire. STOP

    If they wont fire you just quit.

    Walk off.

    Do it right now and you don’t owe me 100$

    Ill send you 100$

    • Ken Bland

      August 10, 2013 at 9:55 pm

      Originality – .5, screamed the judges in unison.

      Accuracy – much higher

      Mets 2, Dbacks zippo.

      Magic number calculation coming soon.

    • schmenkman

      August 10, 2013 at 10:09 pm

      The tirades need freshening. Rollins has only batted first in 52 games, and it would have been quite a bit fewer if Revere hadn’t gotten hurt. Utley has only batted 3rd 45 times, and as the best hitter on the team traditional lineup construction would have him hit 3rd all of the time. And Howard SHOULD be hitting 4th against the 72% of pitchers who throw right.

      Anyway, that’s an awful lot of drama, most of it ill-conceived.

      • Andrew from Waldorf

        August 10, 2013 at 10:18 pm

        You are happy having those 3 occupying 3 of our 4 top spots in your line up the next 2 years?

        At over 50 million a year in salary?

        And having the guy who did those deals still calling the shots?

        And you think they will contend either of the net 2 years?

        If so god bless you.

        I find that ill-conceived.

      • schmenkman

        August 10, 2013 at 10:37 pm

        I have no problem with Utley and Howard in the top 4, at least vs. righties. I’d be fine Rollins hitting lower, but it depends who else is in the lineup, and in the end, where he hits in the order makes not that much difference.

        As for the money, it’s a mixed bag, as I’m sure know whatever the pretense. Howard’s is a bad contract, but it is what it is. Rollins is a fine contract that he will likely earn (in spite of poor season so far). Utley’s is an innovative, team friendly contract for an elite second baseman. Tough to see how anyone can have a problem with that one.

        Amaro is not among the best (although the Utley deal is), and he’s not among the worst. I can sit here and wish ownership would hire someone else, but truth be told, I expect they would hire someone pretty much like Amaro.

      • Andrew from Waldorf

        August 10, 2013 at 10:47 pm

        I guess even Amaro needs someone to be in his corner.

        You could not find a worse GM.

        Omar Minaya with the Mets comes to mind is about the only one.

        What hes done with a nice farm system and roster is really a shame.
        there is no salary cap.

        But Shenkman I always love your optimism and I always wish the guys who think this is still an elite team were correct.

        But this is one of the 3 or 4 worst teams in the sport now.
        that shouldn’t happen to a market like this with a team with support like this.

        Madoff screwed the Mets ( who are ahead of the Phillies now with a better farm system)

        The Phils got screwed by Amaro.

      • schmenkman

        August 10, 2013 at 10:59 pm

        He inherited a farm system in the 10-12 range and which is now, by all expectations around 15.

        He inherited a roster of 30-year olds, and held on to some of them.

        He walked the line this year, starting a rebuild and not signing any new crippling contracts, while at the same time giving the team a chance to win if things broke right — they did not, by and large.

        Now that they’re out of it, every loss helps the chances of a protected draft pick. They’re tied for 8th worst record, and the first ten picks are protected when signing a free agent (as well as being better picks).

  13. Ken Bland

    August 10, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Just watching on tv, when Werth is at the plate, the pitches look like grapefruits. I can just imagine how big they look to him. And that was at least against a real reliever in Garcia. An out, but it sure won’t diminish his confidence.

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