Cloyd Claimed by Cleveland, Valdes by Houston – Phillies Nation

Cloyd Claimed by Cleveland, Valdes by Houston

The Phillies announced today that right-handed starting pitcher Tyler Cloyd was claimed off waivers by the Cleveland Indians and left-handed reliever Raul Valdes was claimed by the Houston Astros.

Across parts of two seasons, Cloyd posted a 5.98 ERA in 19 appearances, 17 starts for the Phillies. Cloyd struggled to replicate the success of his 2012 campaign with the IronPigs, where he posted a 2.35 ERA and went 12-1 en route to winning the Phillies’ Paul Owens Award. In 2013, a career-high 3.73 BB/9 IP contributed to Cloyd’s decline in performance, as well as a fairly unlucky .365 BABIP. Cloyd lost about a MPH on his fastball in MLB appearances as compared to 2012 and added a curveball according to FanGraphs. Cloyd is not eligible for postseason play with Cleveland.

Valdes, 35, is arbitration eligible for the first time in his career. Valdes was hit hard with the Phils in 2013, allowing 7 HR in just 35 IP. Valdes averaged over a strikeout per inning and was relied upon to pitch more than one inning twelve times.

Analysis: Letting these two pitchers get claimed affords the Phillies some much needed roster space. Back on September 5, I highlighted some of the decisions that would need to be made headed into 2014. In short, the roster will be a mess headed into 2014. Valdes was on my non-tender list while I had Cloyd on my projected 40-man roster.



  1. DavidE

    October 2, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    Makes sense. Vales is getting up there in years. The Phillies gave Cloyd a shot last year and this year and he just hasn’t met expectations. Had a few great outings but had more bad ones too. Maybe he will find his stuff in Cleveland. He is not going to overpower anyone so his command of the strike zone really has to be solid. Maybe going to a new organization will benefit him.

  2. Robotnik

    October 2, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Cloyd will have a long and reasonably successful career in the AL.

  3. Hogey's Role

    October 2, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Couldn’t even acquire a low level prospect for either of these guys??

  4. George

    October 2, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    Neither of these guys will be missed.

  5. Double Trouble Del

    October 2, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    No RHP with an 86 mph fastball is going to have a long career in any league.

  6. George

    October 2, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    I’m actually a little surprised Valdez was even picked up by another team. Cloyd not so much; he might be tolerable if his command improves, but he’s probably mostly minor league depth.

  7. Chuck A.

    October 3, 2013 at 6:38 am

    Delmon Young being quoted after last night’s playoff game in which he hit a home run to give the Rays a 1-0 lead:

    “I can’t figure that one out,” said Young when asked to explain his postseason success. “I think next year I need to act like it’s the postseason at the beginning of the season.”

    Yeah…we can’t figure that one out either. Too bad Delmon didn’t act like it was the postseason at the beginning…or during any part of THIS season.

    • G7

      October 3, 2013 at 7:20 am

      Strictly a DH..20-20, team would be in much better shape if Victorino and Pence were kept.

      • Hogey's Role

        October 3, 2013 at 8:00 am

        I agree with that, especially since what we received in those deals doesn’t look so good right now…

      • Chuck A.

        October 3, 2013 at 8:07 am

        Well, the argument was that Pence should have never been traded for in the first place. I wasn’t against trading for him at the time but I would agree that once we had him that trading him away was probably not a good move.

        And I was totally for bringing Vic back. He could have played one of the corner spots if not CF because of Revere, who I think was a nice addition (even though he got hurt).

        Bringing Delmon in here made no sense whatsoever. ZERO.

  8. Bob D

    October 3, 2013 at 7:27 am

    No real loss here at all. Valdes spot needs to be filled by lefty which Jiminez can fill, who did decent too

  9. bacardipr

    October 3, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Cloyd was probably just organizational depth. Im sure Rube will pick up someone else offcast during that offseason to fill that role.Valdes eh he did ok for us the one year but thats about it.

  10. Bob in Bucks

    October 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Not big moves. Cloyd demonstrated he could not be effective in MLB – good luck to him. Valdes getting older and we have a lot of younger pitchers that need to be protected on the roster.

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