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Law Ranks Phillies Farm System Favorably

How’s this for a bit of a turnaround. After several years of below average grades, Keith Law has the Phillies farm system ranked 14th in the majors.

Here’s what Law said:

Similar to Texas but with fewer prospects who are potential grade 65 or better players in the majors. I thought the Phillies had one of the best drafts, perhaps the best of anyone, in 2013, landing a few high-ceiling high school kids — such as shortstop J.P. Crawford — while mixing in some solid college bats like catcher Andrew Knapp.

You know the names well: Franco, Biddle, Quinn, Tocci, etc. Finally, one of the foremost experts on the minor leagues has given some praise to a system that hasn’t had much going right for it lately. After unloading many of their best names in the Cliff Lee, Hunter Pence, and Roy Oswalt deals, among others, the depleted farm could finally be on it’s way back to prominence.

On Wednesday, Law will release his Top 100 prospects list throughout baseball.

Currently, our own Jay Floyd is bringing the heat as he unveils the Phillies organizational rankings. You should be checking that out!

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  1. bacardipr

    January 28, 2014 at 11:33 pm

    Quinn is iffy right now with the Achilles problem and prior to that he had a down year.

  2. Ryne Duren

    January 29, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Uh ohhhh! I can see Ruben rubbing his palms together now contemplating a major trade full of players to be named later! Our top 3 prospects for infield depth. MINI MART!
    I can hear him now. I’m just doing my do diligence to improve the team in a cost effective way by acquiring a very versatile player who can play a multitude of positions, he’s a switch hitter with some speed, and a good bench guy. And I like him A LOT! I can’t tell you how I have salivated over acquiring a man of his talent and integrity. Oh and did I mention he’s over 30 now? He’ll be a good fit. By signing him it gives us the flexibility to possibly move more of our top prospects to reacquire Pete Orr who just recently signed with another club. I’ll make them an offer they can’t refuse.

    • Chuck A.

      January 29, 2014 at 8:50 am

      Hopefully either 1) the Phillies contend or 2) Ruben is gone before he would ever have the opportunity to do that.

  3. bacardipr

    January 29, 2014 at 11:31 am

    Well it appears Rube isnt too high on Ruf. It also appears Rube has mixed feelings on Galvi or not much need for Galvis. With the multitude of utility guys RAJ has signed dont be surprised if he packages these two and possilby another for some mid tier pitching prospect or som teams 4/5 starter type.

    • Double Trouble Del

      January 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm

      I’m no expert on player development, but I really don’t understand why RAJ does not have confidence in Ruf.

  4. Phil Auxt

    January 29, 2014 at 11:47 am

    Phillies and low ranks shouldn’t be used in the same sentence, MAN!

  5. George

    January 29, 2014 at 11:55 am

    Even without high draft picks, the Phils system is now #14, slightly above mid-point, according to Law. Yet people are still griping that Amaro has and will continue to deplete the system of prospects. He hasn’t traded a single prospect this offseason, and he only traded very questionable minor league talent last offseason. I can’t believe the negativity on this site these days, and the hatred Amaro generates for trying to keep the run of division winning teams going by acquiring the proven talent he did.

    And to Pat I have say that including the Lee trade as one that helped empty the farm is pretty off base. I can’t think of even one of those guys who have made any kind of a name in the majors, and it’s been years now.

  6. Dave

    January 29, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    There is no reason that Keith Law should say anything positive about the Phillies. He must be smoking marijuana in Colorado.

  7. Rags Faircloth

    January 29, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    It’s great to see some positive news, even if it only places the Phil’s farm system in the middle of the pack. I guess we’ll have something to look forward to in 2019. Houston was ranked number one – with both Jonathan Singleton and Domingo Santana being referenced. Law mentioned how they not only took advantage of their draft position, but also made astute moves when trading away veteran talent.

    As far as trotting out the excuse of “not having high draft picks”, it’s not exactly that simple. The Cardinals have been a very competitive organization since 2000 (averaging 91 wins a season) yet continue to draft and develop young talent. They aren’t just being lucky. The Phillies problem is more on the scouting side than it is in picking deeper in the draft.

    • schmenkman

      January 29, 2014 at 4:07 pm

      Rags, since 2000 the Cardinals have had among the most first round picks in MLB. The Phillies have had among the least.

      Total first round and compensation picks since 2000:

      Cardinals 27 (17 first, and 10 supplemental): 6th in MLB
      Phillies 15 (9 first, and 6 supplemental): 29th in MLB

      First round picks only since 2000:

      Cardinals 17: 3rd in MLB
      Phillies 9: 30th and last in MLB

      • Lefty

        January 29, 2014 at 8:02 pm

        There’s nothing like facts to ruin a good argument!

        Also OT- It’s interesting that D’arnaud has been traded twice for CY winners.

      • Rags Faircloth

        January 30, 2014 at 1:21 pm

        You’re actually making my exact point. Isn’t gaining compensation picks part of the FO decision making process? Knowing when to let a player go rather than signing him to bad contract extension? I will take the Cardinals’ front office, including scouting and player development organizations over the Phillies’ anytime.

        The point was, you can contend and maintain a top farm system simultaneously. Are disagreeing with that? People continuously say the Phillies farm system went bankrupt because they were a contending team for six or seven years. Contending and having a strong farm system are not mutually exclusive if the team is making the right decisions.

      • schmenkman

        January 30, 2014 at 2:10 pm

        Yes, you can contend and maintain a top farm system simultaneously.

        But “contend” is not what the Phillies FO was trying to do from Oct 2008 through June 2012. They were trying to go deep into the playoffs and hopefully wring one more WS championship out of this core. It just didn’t work.

        By the way, even in 2000-2008, the Phillies ranked near the bottom in first round and supplemental picks: 26th in first rounders, and 24th in total picks before the 2nd round.

  8. Mike in NJ

    January 29, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    So middle of the pack, but yet somehow Ruin can’t find any major league ready talent there, or is so clueless that there is some there but doesn’t recognize it? AWESOME!

    • schmenkman

      January 29, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      No, the talent is skewed towards the lower levels of the minors.

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