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Lee Tough Luck Loser as Teheran Shuts Out Phillies

Cliff Lee scattered 11 hits, and allowed just one run to the Braves on Wednesday night, but was the victim of no run support as Julio Teheran and the Braves shut out the Phillies in the second game of their three-game set.

Cliff Lee pitched a complete game with 13 Ks, but the Phillies were shut out by the young right-hander Julio Teheran on Wednesday. PHOTO: AP

Cliff Lee pitched a complete game with 13 Ks, but the Phillies were shut out by the young right-hander Julio Teheran on Wednesday. PHOTO: AP

“Historic-Lee” Incredible, Strange Outing

-Lee pitched all nine innings Wednesday, yielding just a solo homer to Evan Gattis that barely cleared the left-field wall. He scattered 11 hits, walked just one, and struck out 13. It was the ninth time since 2011 Lee has had a dozen or more strikeouts in a game, which is the most in the majors over that span, and it is the third straight game against Atlanta that he has recorded at least 10 strikeouts.

He now has 21 double-digit strikeout games as a Phillie, which in just 108 games already puts him at fifth on the Phillies’ all time list in that category, behind Steve Carlton, Curt Schilling, Jim Bunning, Cole Hamels. Nine of those games have yielded a dozen or more strikeouts, and in those nine games his K/BB ratio is 23/1.

But, despite the valiant performance, Lee lost suffered the loss- his fourth complete game loss of his career. He is the first pitcher to lose a game with at least 128 pitches (new career high for Lee, previously 126 ) and 13 Ks since Pedro Martinez accomplished that on May 6, 2000. According to our own Corey Seidman, Lee is also the only pitcher in MLB history to lose 2 games in which he’s allowed 1 run and struck out 13+ batters.

Hitless Against Julio

-Well, nearly hitless. Teheran allowed just three hits in the game to the Phillies, all of them singles. They did not get their first hit until the fifth, when Ryan Howard beat out an infield dribbler to second (yes, you read correctly). Carlos Ruiz and Jimmy Rollins also singled in the game. Rollins’ hit brought the winning run to the plate with two outs in the ninth in the form of Chase Utley, but he grounded out hard to second to end the game.

Teheran is now an owner of a 1.93 ERA and two wins, as he continues to impress in the early part of his sophomore campaign. Wednesday’s shutout was the first of his career.

Up Next

-The Phillies will try to salvage a game against the Braves Thursday afternoon, when they send A.J. Burnett (0-1, 3.94 ERA) to the hill against the southpaw Alex Wood (2-1, 1.89 ERA). Game time is at 1:05.



  1. Hogey's Role

    April 16, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    Yeah tough luck loser for signing with the phillies

    • Carl

      April 16, 2014 at 11:17 pm


  2. Scotty Ingerton

    April 16, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    No matter how bad this bullpen is, I’m not a proponent of letting Lee throw 128 pitches. It’s not like this was the 7th game of the World Series.

    • Carl

      April 16, 2014 at 11:18 pm

      Yep. Or rather, of-freaking-course-not.

  3. Andrew from Waldorf

    April 16, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    I wish they would come out with a number of losses where if they get to that number they will fire Amaro. 97.5 seems like a fair number and might keep interest going for a few months.

    Also is there a chance they wont be able to meet pay roll as attendance falls below 20,000?

    Nice job Ruben.

    Watching a game is like going to the dentist.

    Not one young player either to be exciting.

    Like a Billy Hamilton.

    Just more Rollins and Howard forever and ever.

    • Carl

      April 16, 2014 at 11:19 pm


    • Tom in South Philly

      April 17, 2014 at 10:58 am

      Andrew, I usually do not agree with you, but I must admit you do have a point, “watching a game is like going to the dentist”. For this game at least you were absolutely right; I was ready to throw stuff at the TV. (On the bright side, the Phillies didn’t commit any errors last night.) I can only hope we don’t have too many more games like this in the future.

      • Andrew from Waldorf

        April 17, 2014 at 1:14 pm

        Thanks Tom.

        I guess the Phils don’t rate a game day thread anymore.

        Cant say I disagree.


        I posted this on my FB wall in support of both the Phillies this afternoon and the Flyers tonight.

        Win Rocky Win!!!!


  4. Scotty Ingerton

    April 17, 2014 at 4:30 am

    Someday, they’ll update this video!


  5. Lefty

    April 17, 2014 at 7:06 am

    I’ve said this before, pitchers should not be credited with wins and losses. That’s a team thing. Lee lost the game he pitched very well in, and won a game in Texas where he stunk it up.

    Do we really need W’s and L’s to tell us that Cliff Lee is one of the elite, top 5 pitchers in the majors?

    It’s too bad Teheran pitched such a great game last night but he did. We never seem to credit the opposition, but sometimes it’s not so much about what we didn’t do, it’s that their guys played great and won the game.

    • schmenkman

      April 17, 2014 at 7:30 am

      Lefty, well said.

    • crow

      April 17, 2014 at 8:59 am

      Teheran threw one of the great games I expect to see this season. He lived on the corners and stayed down in the zone with everything. It’s just depressing how the Barves keep developing good young starters.

    • photoFred

      April 17, 2014 at 11:12 am

      Agreed, Lefty.

      Still, though Lee got through it, I was yelling at my TV when Ryne sent him out in the ninth after how many pitches?! I’d have sent Diekman right back out there and given him a chance to (sort of) redeem himself.

  6. Carlos

    April 17, 2014 at 8:40 am

    I agree their guy pitched a great game. I am worried that Lee threw so many pitches so early in the season.

  7. John_hosier1984

    April 17, 2014 at 8:54 am

    I don’t frequently post, but I do come to read daily. I have just one question about last night’s game… After a postponed game, why does Lee pitch 128 pitches? Our bullpen should have been rested enough to come in and pitch the ninth. I know the bullpen is up and down, but to pitch Lee that much so early in the season… Is the faith in the bullpen that low?

    • Hogey's Role

      April 17, 2014 at 9:28 am

      Yes it is

    • Ken Bland

      April 17, 2014 at 11:59 am


      Perhaps the morning turned over an explanation by Sandberg, so maybe you have an answer already, but I’ll take a guess.

      Firstly, your question, considering the day off is good. Definitely relavant.

      But my guess, among other factors I’m sure leans toward not expecting much length out of Burnett today. And the short turn from night to day means that much more recovery time needed by whatever bullpen guys might have pitched last night. Cliff was the best bet to keep it at 1-0, which tipped the decision. The game last night carried more than the usual need, no matter what you hear/read about the 1 of 162 angle.

      Perhaps he’ll surprise us, but on one groin, I wouldn’t expect much out of Burnett. Maybe those close to the locker room know better, but from a distance, he hasn’t pitched well the entire year, including spring, so why would he now when it’s been determined he’ll need surgery. What sudden adjustment would provide hope for a well pitched game all of a sudden? And add the other half of the pitching matchup to the picture, I expect them to get killed today. In the overall scheme, Cliff going 128 pitches is nowhere close to justifying the chatter it’s getting. It’s only 15 extra pitches or so, the guy’s in great shape, and his competitive spirit instills complete game fever.

  8. PaMikeyDC

    April 17, 2014 at 9:05 am

    I echo @schnekman, well said @lefty.

    And same w you @Scotty, 128 is too much this early on. But if Cliff said he was fine who are we to judge (I guess). That’s what managers do.

  9. PaMikeyDC

    April 17, 2014 at 10:40 am

    Another poor performance by the Iron Pigs BP. Aumont and Horst, no bueno.

    WTHeck. MiiLB app is where it’s at for the Phillies affiliates.

  10. The Original Chuck P

    April 17, 2014 at 12:16 pm

    We are still figuring out what Ryne Sandberg is all about… one thing that is clear is that he’s not a fan of pitch counts. Early in the season, we’ve seen Cliff Lee throw 128 pitches, Roberto Hernandez throw 118 pitches on a night when he was literally dripping sweat from the brim of his cap and AJ Burnett throw 108 and 109 pitches in consecutive games ripping a hernia in the process (a hernia which PN still hasn’t commented on). I’m not a fan of pitch counts either but this early in the season… in a cold weather environment with pitchers who have grown accustomed to certain rituals (like turning it off after 105 pitches), I think you have to be careful.

    Re: wins as a meaningless stat… agree that wins aren’t a great indication of talent or ability but I still like wins. It’s not fair to judge a pitcher based on wins but I still want the guy who is motivated to win games… who pitches to the situation, whatever that may be. On a hot night in Arlington, you would expect to see a few more home runs than you would on a cold night at CBP with the wind blowing in… if the final score reads 7-5 in Arlington and we’re on top, that’s better than losing 0-1, isn’t it? Not saying Lee pitched better at Arlington but there might have been external factors that were out of his control which caused the scoreboard to read a higher number than we deem acceptable. For what it’s worth, Lee’s career ERA in Arlington is 5.55 (2.80 at CBP) and yet his W/L% is higher at Arlington (58% compared to 56%). Perhaps it’s an anomaly but my point is that Cliff Lee goes out there to win games… that’s his motivation and that’s why we love him.

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