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Closed Door Meeting Sparks 7-0 Loss

Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg held a closed door meeting before Tuesday nights game and it didn’t seem to have an effect. The Phillies got smoked by the Nationals 7-0 in a game that could be described as “predictable”. The Phillies have now lost 18 of their last 27 games and fall to 24-32 on the season.

Phillies starter David Buchanan got hit hard, as he surrendered seven earned runs in six innings of work. The Phillies offense was shut out for the seventh time this season. Ben Revere saw his eight game hitting streak get snapped, and shortstop Jimmy Rollins went 1-3 at the plate bringing him just eight hits away from tying Mike Schmidt for the franchise record.

The Phillies will turn to right hander AJ Burnett tomorrow to stop the bleeding. Burnett is 3-4 on the season with a 3.79 ERA. He will be opposed by some guy named Stephen Strasburg.



  1. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 3, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    Hopefully, the meeting, dubbed “A Sense of Urgency,” referred to how to go about quickly firing Amaro. The team he has currently assembled is pathetic on so many levels. These guys are cooked.

    • Ken Bland

      June 4, 2014 at 11:31 am

      “Hopefully, the meeting, dubbed “A Sense of Urgency,” referred to how to go about quickly firing Amaro.”

      That’s a lead line that could be seen as attempt at humor, and not a bad one, or also straight up candor.

      Unfortunately, it’s darned close to truthful, or should be more than not.

      And breaking it down the following way is why.

      Think about how hard it is for the club to win a game. Tonight’s an example. Burnett is pitching. He’s been somewhere around pretty good, not great, but he gives you a reasonable chance to win. But then, even if he steps up, you have to hope the offense has one of those consistent nights, which I guess is why some religious houses have weekday services. Then, you have to hope the defense is fundamentally on, hardly a consistent given. Even if you get all that, then you have the subject of the bullpen.

      Not that it matters, but I wonder how many particularly non Cliff starts they enter a game as a favorite for the next 6 weeks with this roster in place. Hell, even in the Hamels starts, they are 1-8. They lose even when he pitches well. Even now that he’s built strength and stamina back up, over the next several weeks, it’s not likely they play .500.

  2. Morris Buttermaker

    June 3, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Good thing as the Phillies star players age, all of them great prospects Amaro acquired when he traded Cliff Lee, Hunter Pence and Shane Victorino are really stepping up.

  3. Andrew from waldorf

    June 4, 2014 at 1:19 am

    Yes Singleton homered for the Astros.

    I do have him in fantasy though!

    Dropped Marlon Byrd.

    I guess we may be reaching the low point in the Ruben Amaro era.

    No I have a feeling it is going to keep getting worse.

  4. bacardipr

    June 4, 2014 at 7:07 am

    I feared that such a slide in the L column would pretty much bury them. The whole season they pretty much been on the brink of something like this happening.

  5. PaMikeyDC

    June 4, 2014 at 7:40 am

    I was at the game. And I’m sorry, u have to feel for the young guy Buchannon a little bit. No run support at all. Which brings upon no confidence.
    And boy I’ll tell ya- that Nationals lineup is very very good. Once they get Harper back and can have Zimm or Espinosa off of the bench- WOW!!! I think their 7th hitter (Esp) had 10hrs. Geez.
    I’ll be there again if anyone from PN is there and wants to hit the outside bullpen beforehand.

    • Lefty

      June 4, 2014 at 9:15 am

      @PaMikeyDC ,

      As I told you once, I’m just south of Baltimore. I would normally meet up with you today or tomorrow, but I’m still recovering from knee replacement surgery, so I’m not able to get around well yet. Maybe next summer?

  6. Mike in NJ

    June 4, 2014 at 10:20 am

    Told you guys the Mets series would be make or break. When you lose 4 out of 5 at home to a pathetic Mets team, the wheels have officially come off.

    Only questions now are when the vets start going on the DL, and when the home attendance drops to 15k per game. Saddest part is, I don’t think Ruin gets fired no matter how bad the 2nd highest payroll in baseball looks…what hot GM candidate would want this job when he’s going to be stuck with so many untradeable contracts? Going to be hard to even start rebuilding until the end of 2016 season when you can buy out Howard.

  7. PaMikeyDC

    June 4, 2014 at 10:51 am

    @Lefty, sounds great man

  8. Ken Bland

    June 4, 2014 at 11:23 am

    “Only questions now are when the vets start going on the DL, and when the home attendance drops to 15k per game”

    I think a decent number of people think that is right around the corner. As in this year. And while I wouldn’t bet my life on it not happening, I think it’s a serious longshot.

    Now if you’re talking warm bodies actually in attendance, that’s one thing. And even that’s SOMEWHAT of a long shot.

    Often overlooked is what the season ticket base provides as a cushion. That at least helps announced attendance. And that base provided the foundation of a guess that at least to this point, has stayed above 20k per game.

    Now next year, if you look at the attendance charts of Cleveland and Toronto, long home sellout streak clubs that they were, t5he Phils very possibly, if not probably might well look at weekday crowds above 20k as pretty rare. Cleveland, for what it’s worth REALLY dropped back after their golden age, although the Toronto fall was mighty, too. I don’t think the Phils fall below the Jays, and probably not quite as much. Maybe announced attendance bottoms at 1.6 mil in a year, maybe a little higher. Average low 20s per, including weekends, when you have that rare 35K plus crowd.

    Then there’s the topic of when the Phils are good again, how many, and how quickly will they be back. Not that I’d have ever thought they’d sell out at the rate they did, but that type revenue stream, to me, is unforeseeable.

  9. jeff y

    June 4, 2014 at 11:31 am

    RAJ needs to be kicked into the Schuylkill. They are pathetic.

  10. Andrew from waldorf

    June 4, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Ken I thought that they should have an incentive that the first game with paid attendance under 12000 they fire Amaro.

    That’s something all the fans could get behind. And not attend.

    I think may already be close to getting under 15000.
    As we saw during the sell out streak though they can make the attendance numbers anything they want. We can just watch the games and see the empty seats to know something is amiss.

    I must say I was at the forefront of seeing Ruben is was a moron.

    When I truly used to rant against him it was at a time when maybe the current situation could have been avoided.

    But I guess its pointless because he still has his job today.
    which is truly mind boggling.

    • Mike in NJ

      June 4, 2014 at 2:48 pm

      thought Ruin was a moron the day he traded away Cliff Lee for 3 stiffs, and then immediately resigned Blanton. He’s really done nothing since then to make me change my opinion, other than strengthen it.

      • schmenkman

        June 4, 2014 at 3:08 pm

        To be fair there was that $17 million per year difference between what Blanton signed for, and what Lee was expected to get in free agency.

        The mistake was not making the decision to drastically increase payroll until 2011. They didn’t think they could afford Lee in 2010, but went ahead and loosened the purse strings to accommodate his salary a year later.

      • Mike in NJ

        June 4, 2014 at 6:56 pm

        We were already in “win now” mode. Maybe they win against SF in the NLCS if Lee starts instead of Blanton in the game he got shelled. Maybe they would have signed him to a team friendly extension during the season or before FA started if they had won in 2010. If not, they offer him a qualifying offer and get a first round pick if he leaves. Even if you buy for a second trading Lee was the smart move (LOL) there was NO reason to trade him the same day they traded for Halliday…when you have a prize pitcher like Lee, you let the entire league bid on him and not banish him as far away as possible for whatever trash a team bidding against no one offers you.

    • Ken Bland

      June 4, 2014 at 6:00 pm

      Back in the day, Pat Williams was the 10-9-8-76ers Business Manager. Check that. Maybe it was Promotions Manager. Insert Cliff lee quote, and start over.

      Pat Williams created a promotion for the 10-9-8-76ers back in the day that I thought was terrific. Failed big time, but my evaluation of it is what counts. Section of The Spectrum was for Blind Date night. Singles bought ducats, and took their chances on who they sat next too. Can you imagine that now with the mix of sexual preferences running amongst us on how that section might have totalled out?

      Anyway, either 44 or 48 guys showed up, and only 4 women.

      Now parlay that to Phillies baseball today.

      On Monday, Jine Whatever (Cliff Lee keeps working his way into this message), against Whomever, fans purchasing tickets will be given an inflataible Ruben Amoron blowup doll as they enter the park. The most beat up doll, as judged by *Andrew From Waldorf in the last 3 innings will have the privelege of hosting the Ruben Amaro exit interview, live on CSN following that night’s loss.

      Phillies baseball. Don’t leave home without no creativity.

      * many a fool comes on this board and loves to remind of their predictions. Heaven and hell alike forbid that peeps should realize a lot of times, predictive acuracy is coincidence. Class money moves on to the next sense, and don’t look back. Waldorf is home to one of the most accurately played out takes in recent Phillies years. One of it’s citizens has been about 400% straight up, and straight on on Ruben Minaya since Ben Hur made the Chariot All-Stars. That’s the basis by which he would make the selection.

      tags: Phillie promotions, Pat Williams memories, great Cliff Lee quotes

      non tags: AFW’s stupidity as a sports investor. Well, recently, anyway.. People sports, not horse sports

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