2014 Gameday

Game 55: Mets vs. Phillies



New York Mets (27-29) at Philadelphia Phillies (24-30)

Starting Pitchers:
NYM: Bartolo Colon (1-2, 3.82)
PHI: Roberto Hernandez (4-5, 4.73)

Time: 7:05, Citizens Bank Park
Weather: Sunny, 74
Media: Twitter and Facebook

A Note for Tonight:

The Phillies and Mets are finally finishing the series that never ends. three of the four games so far have gone into extra innings, resulting in fans being “treated” to an extra 12 innings throughout the series so far. The Mets will throw out Bartolo Colon, who in his career against the Phillies sports a 4.65 ERA ( 5 games).

Ben Revere is having a home stand to remember. Revere hit his first career homerun against the Rockies last week, and is in the midst of a seven game hitting streak. During that time the 26 year old outfielder is hitting .297 with 1 HR, 2 RBI, 3 R, & 3 SB.

Lineup:  Revere CF / C. Hernandez SS / Utley 2B / Howard 1B / Byrd RF / Ruiz C / Brown LF / Brignac 3B / R. Hernandez P



  1. Scotty Ingerton

    June 2, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    “A life-sucking abyss of bad baseball” indeed. Play ball!


  2. lefty

    June 2, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    So sick of the Mets at this point. Go Phils!

  3. Scotty Ingerton

    June 2, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    “Ben Revere is having a home stand to remember.”

    And who will ever forget that bunting clinic that Ben put on the other night? Good times!

    • DavidE

      June 2, 2014 at 11:04 pm

      Missed 2 chances at a sacrifice bunt. A successful sacrifice would have enabled a tie game in the 14th on Saturday. Not happy with Revere. Big stat is that he hasn’t walked on this home stand. He has 3 walks all year. I don’t see him as a positive force if he can’t execute plays such as a sacrifice bunt. Put Marlon Byrd in center field, move Dominic Brown to right and place Ruf or Mayberry in left.

  4. PaMikeyDC

    June 2, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    I’ll be at all 3 games vs the Nats beginning tomorrow. In section 109 for Tuesday.

  5. teejayvee

    June 2, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    I wonder how many bases teams have taken on Ben(4 walks ) Revere’s arm?

  6. Ken Band

    June 2, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    It’s always good o fall into a highly topical subject. Makes you seem either ultra smart, or brilliantly observant.

    Incredibly absent from al Philies pre game chatter is who will be the closer tonight Jonathan Papelbon has pitched 3 straight days. Goose Gossage once pitched 4 straight days. But
    Papelbon would need more than equaling that to be in Goose’s class. Maybe paraphrasing Goose’s screaming “You can take that upstairs to the fat man” with a “You can take that upstairs to the moron ” would endear him to the few that now consider Howard Eskin a hero, but Paps recent unavailability for a 3rd straight game doesn’t lend probability to a 4th in a row tonight.

    And after all, who the Phillies use to save tonight’s game is highly important. Maybe right up there with Germans discussing who their next chancellor would be in 1945.

  7. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 2, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    This Dendecker guy is killer. Ugh!

  8. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 2, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    I don’t know about you guys, but if this series goes any longer, I am going to need a frontal lobotomy. Good God!

  9. lefty

    June 2, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    This offense is just terrible TMac.

    • schmenkman

      June 2, 2014 at 8:44 pm

      Theyre’ not good, but it’s all relative. They’re about average for the year, but 3rd in the NL in runs, and first in home runs, since May 17.

      • lefty

        June 2, 2014 at 8:49 pm

        Their inability to create runs effectively playing “small” concerns me. Otherwise I’m just generally in a foul mood and shouldn’t be commenting tonight, sorry.

      • Scotty Ingerton

        June 2, 2014 at 8:50 pm

        And they’re 5-8 during that time frame. Unfortunately, even with this “average” offense, they still have to play defense half of the time (and run the bases and lay down bunts every so often).

      • schmenkman

        June 2, 2014 at 9:02 pm

        The offense is the relative bright spot among three main parts (offense, pitching, fielding), as sad as that is.

  10. lefty

    June 2, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Oh great, now they’re telling us how great the bullpen is.

  11. Hogey's Role

    June 2, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    We’re only 4 games ahead of the bottom feeder cubs!!!! Yikes

  12. Andrew from waldorf

    June 2, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    Come on

    this team is not average.

    I don’t know how you can turn stats and such.

    anyone who even casually watches the team ( not many left)

    Can see what this team is.

    I posted an article from the NY post about the Mets last week.
    About how terrible they are.

    I bet this series because I was embracing how bad the 2 teams are.

    They are truly terrible.

    The Phillies are worse.

    I guess Amaro is never getting fired.

    Comforting knowing he is running the Phillies draft this year.

    Spin the stats anyway you want the Phillies are one of the 5 worst teams in the league.

  13. Andrew from waldorf

    June 2, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    The Mets started 3 hitters tonight coming in hitting over .250.

    They too are one of the 5 worst teams in baseball and they crap on the Phillies so where are the Philies?


    And you get articles/ posts here about the team getting better or having a chance.

    Or about a division that sports both the Phillies and Mets is actually a good division.

    The Mets are HORRIBLE.

    They were better than the Phillies last year and are this year.

    The Phillies are less than horrible.

    Whatever the stats say that’s the truth.

    • schmenkman

      June 2, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      Whatever the stats say, I am tall and wealthy. Hey, that’s easy.

      • Dave

        June 3, 2014 at 8:21 am

        Now we truly know the source of Schmemkman’s optimism. It’s not the Phillies, it’s his wealth!

  14. Andrew from waldorf

    June 2, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    And there is the error

    And there are people who say you cant trade Rollins or Utley LOLOL

    Some of the fans who are on Rubens level deserve this team.

    They wanted it just like Ruben did.

  15. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 2, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Wow. All we need now is Walter Mattheau. Hopefully, Ruben is exhuming him now and signing him to a ridiculous contract.
    Took Scotty’s suggestion and started drinking. Bourbon amazingly makes this wonderful inning slightly less aggravating. Thanks, Ruben!

  16. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 2, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Why didn’t Chase tag on that?did he switch brains with Rever or Dom Brown?
    At least Bartolo “I’m not fat, it’s just a bloated” Colon didnt shut us out.
    This is the ugliest series I have sawn in years.

    • schmenkman

      June 2, 2014 at 9:21 pm

      Just on gameday, but I heard elsewhere Utley would have been out by a mile.

      • "Big Ed" Delahanty

        June 2, 2014 at 9:38 pm

        Turned off the TV. just went on what LA and Franzke were saying. They though den Decker was off balance and had no chance to set. Who knows? Chase is having a very rare off night tonight. Team blunders could have finally gotten to the Man. He seemed frustrated last night.

      • wbramh

        June 2, 2014 at 9:39 pm

        Had that ball dropped it still would have been a close play at home. That guy in center has a gun! He already threw out one runner foolish enough to try to score on him. A smart player would remember that fact.

        Better to rely on the next guy up, Ruiz, to produce a simple base hit.
        Might as well blame Chooch.

  17. Andrew from waldorf

    June 2, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    Schenkman you entertain me.

    When they lose 105 this year with a 180 million pay roll.

    You will be able to tell me how great they are.

    If I am ever arrested be looking for a phone call for you to represent me.

    Thank you.

  18. Andrew from waldorf

    June 2, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    I lose 150$ on the series

    I did not think a team the level of the Mets could take 4 of 5 from anyone.

    I was wrong.

    I have a standing better record bet Phillies vs Mets.

    That I will have to pay off the next few years like I did last year.

    Otherwise I will not be wagering in any form on this Phillies team until both the Amaro and Howard eras are completely over. .

    • wbramh

      June 2, 2014 at 10:00 pm

      AFW – Re: “…I will not be wagering in any form on this Phillies team until both the Amaro and Howard eras are completely over.”

      That will be in 2018 and the team will have moved to San Antonio by then.
      Unlike Irsay’s stealth of night escape from Baltimore, at this rate we all may help them pack.
      This bullpen could walk them to Texas.

      And what is Tom McCarthy blabbing about it being an “attainable” ballgame?
      Will it be available on DVD?

      • Chuck A.

        June 2, 2014 at 10:21 pm

        Gotta love McCarthy for trying to keep the chin up. He’s broadcasting for a terrible team with terrible color analysts. I’m not the biggest TMac fan out there but he’s definitely doing a great job under lousy circumstances.

  19. Andrew from waldorf

    June 2, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    1800 pitches now for the series


    If can get it to extras may get a 2000 pitch series.

    The series has lived up to my billing

    Just wish the Phils could have at least won 2.

  20. Chuck A.

    June 2, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    Why am I actually watching this? Annnnnnnnd….we walk the leadoff hitter. Good Lord…

  21. Mike

    June 2, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Well done……. good job…

  22. Mike in NJ

    June 2, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Well, at least we won’t be tortured with extra innings today lol

    God, this team sucks!

  23. Chuck A.

    June 2, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    This is pitiful. Just dreadful.

  24. Andrew from waldorf

    June 2, 2014 at 10:22 pm

    Flores came in with 1 RBI this year.

    6 in tonights game.

    Chuck you watch because you are a fan.

    Like I do.

    But this series may be the low point.

    There comes a point when I do wonder why Amaro doesn’t just quit.

    This cant be fun.

    When he does I will wish him the best in his endeavors and forget about him.

  25. Wilver Dornell Stargell

    June 2, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Har har harrrrrrrdy har har

  26. Andrew from waldorf

    June 2, 2014 at 10:26 pm


    Yes in a way with this team wish it was Wheeler.

    Having to suffer through it all.

    What a series.

    5 game series 57 innings and the Mets get 4 of 5

    1856 pitches

    Mets announcers talking about the Mets making a run

    sorry Mets fans you wont be playing the Phillies in the future there will be no run.

    You are terrible. The Phils are just more terriblerer.

    The series lived up to the billing.

    Truly dreadful played by 2 dreadful teams.

    If young had caught that routine fly ball in game 2 the Mets may have swept all 5 games.

  27. Mike

    June 2, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    I dont even know where to start! As much as it pains me to say it, trading Utley and Rollins are the best best to start turning this club in the right direction. Problem is Ruben is still at the reigns and he will get a nickel on the dollar for both of them! Over the years, they should have been able to survive the trading of prospects with better scouting and replenishing through the draft. Its BS that he blames losing high draft picks to FA signings. There is plenty of talent each year that is found beyond the first rd. Even with Howards bloated salary, a solid GM would find a way to build around it. Problem is Ruben does nothing well and is surrounded by a bunch of buffoons in the front office and scouting department!

    ps, please send brown, revere, and aumont on one way tickets somewhere….anywhere…please!

  28. wbramh

    June 2, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    Ricky Bottalico:

    “Don’t guys come to the Big Leagues with a knowledge of baseball?”

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard him more disgusted – and he can get pretty brutal about brutal baseball.

    This goes back to my question earlier this evening about the quality of coaching and management in this organization, both on a minor league level and major league maintenance of same. They are fundamentally challenged by fundamentals, from trotting to first base to throwing to the wrong base to swinging at garbage to simply falling asleep out there. It’s one thing to be under-gtalented as a team – it’s quite another thing to not play fundamental baseball.

    • Chuck A.

      June 2, 2014 at 10:52 pm

      LOVED that comment from Ricky Bo. It’s refreshing to hear one of these TV guys be brutally honest and not afraid to tell it like it is. If he could get away with saying “This team is a f—–g mess” he would.

  29. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 2, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    We now gave the third worst run differential in the league, we just got trounced by a team consisting of Colon and Abreu, whose combined age and weight still makes a record book somewhere, and we have Steasburg and Cueto (gNats and Reds) coming up. With our 180 million payroll juggernaut rolling on to the land of Rock Bottom, I’m really excited now. The team Ruben has built is amazing in so many ways, with ineptitude being our best stat. Grrrr! Man, this season is a nightmare.

  30. Scotty Ingerton

    June 2, 2014 at 11:33 pm

    The Phils are 9-17 since May 4, which is the worst record in the NL during that time frame.

  31. Ken Band

    June 3, 2014 at 1:34 am

    Fortunately, a word synonymous with Phillies baseball, they remain on pace for the club’s best June ever. The 2 losses earlier this month still represents the club’s lowest loss total in full month history. Unfortunately, the club’s cooled off from their torrid March when they were unbeaten, and averaged 14 runs an outing.

    Still, tonight’s loss is at least a little troubling. The 2nd wild card became more of a best win option, and you’d hate to see this storied season reduced to a 1 game live or die. Hopefully, Rube can complete the deal for Giancarlo Stanton before the start of the Nat series, and return the club to its winning ways.

    Tips of the caps to the stellar tandem of Diekman and Aumont for their efforts tonight. They threw 35 pitches between them tonight, 15 in the strike zone. If you throw pitches out of the strike zone, hitters chase, and make outs. The three thirds of an inning the 2 combined for proved that, and hopefully, the young pitchers can learn from that. Proving the point even more, the Phils collectively issued 7 walks, and the Mets had fewer plate appearances than any of the 3 previous games. How simple can baseball 101 be?

    Last year, when the Phils carefully researched and accurately blamed Young Charles Manuel for their trip to an eventual near 90 loss season, there was talk of honoring Said Chuckster for skippering the Phils to 1000 wins over the course of his unMauchian tenure (get lost spell check). That never happened, perhaps largely because Manuel didn’t appreciate the dismissal. Wounds moderately healed, Cholly reupped with the Phils in a different role, and you’d have thought they’d have scheduled the night for this year. Nadda.

    And pourquoi, you might ask? Hey, I don’t wanna start rumors, it could be for 1 of 10k reasons, but it don’t surprise me an iota if it’s because Chollie’s too proud still to let them use him to stave off a sinking gate. The right time to honor the guy is when the Phils return to winning form, year 2619, AD, year of their lord. Not amidst this 2 card chase that offers the 1 game chance.. Let people keep tabs on that, and not get distracted.

    tag: wild card chase

  32. Lefty

    June 3, 2014 at 7:49 am

    My parents always taught me that if I didn’t have anything good or constructive to say, I should say nothing.


    • George

      June 3, 2014 at 8:31 am

      I was told you shouldn’t speak badly of the dead, so I can’t say anything, either.

  33. Scotty Ingerton

    June 3, 2014 at 9:06 am

    Before the season I picked them for 68 wins, which was probably being a little optimistic. This is going to be an ugly summer.


    • wbramh

      June 3, 2014 at 11:13 am

      I picked them for 67 wins.
      Even though the last series would suggest we were both too optimistic I think they’ll rally here and there and pull out at least 65 wins; maybe even surprise us with 70 – but that may involve swapping teams with Reading.

      I’m picking them to beat up on the Gnats this evening.
      Washington had the day off and they probably spent it watching the Phillies-Mets game.
      Overconfidence will be their undoing.

      Final score: Phillies 6, Gnats 4
      They’ll get to Zimmerman early and Buchanan will have a decent 6 innings.

      Or not.

      • Ken Bland

        June 3, 2014 at 1:53 pm

        I don’t feel too inclined to spend much time even trying to come up with semi solid reasons for taking a countering view on tonight’s game, but I’ll offer some senses for disagreeing.

        The main reason, or crux of different sense is the idea Buchannan pitches decently enough. I don’t know that he’ll get obliterated, but I suspect 4 runs (combo earned and not) would be as good a result that can be hoped for.

        This first time seeing a pitcher still holds water, but it’s a while now since video has taken an edge off that. The live pitches carry a need for acquaintance, but the Nats will have some inking of what they’ll see. He’s a fair to middling pitcher, but he doesn’t fool anyone. Leastwise not now. So I guess I lean toward more like 4 or 5 runs earlier than the end of 6 innings.

        Also, for their inconsistencies, the Phils have been at least somewhat predictable for the most part. Every (or most) times you think they will take bad to worse, they play 2 or 3 good games in a row. Getting back to their (relative) strength of playing on the road, you could see that happening, playing a good game after a stretch of horrible ball. My sense is the next 6 games offer more bad than good (2 and 4 at best seems reasonable)

        Re Zim, he’s not mowing them down like he has at times in the past, but he’s due to pick it up (clueless on his health, always a factor, so I’m overguessing), and the opponent always has the bottom of the Phillie order to gain a big advantage over.

        I see a lot more reasons to think WASH wins tonight. All said, that’s probably the best reason the Phils win.

  34. Mike in NJ

    June 3, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    I, too, predicted 67 wins. What’s scary is, for the most part, the veterans have been healthy and playing at about the level we expected, and in some cases, better lol. Revere is not a starting CF. Sadly, Brown is not a starting LF. Asche I still have some hope for. The BP is total garbage other than the $13M closer.

    Just wait until more of the veterans start hitting the DL, and Ruin has a fire sale getting a bag of magic beans for any veteran he can. I almost hope Cliff Lee doesn’t come back until next season so the next GM can trade him for some prospects, instead of the garbage Amaro would likely get.

    • schmenkman

      June 3, 2014 at 1:57 pm

      This assumes Amaro is fired before the end of 2015, which I doubt. It seems more likely that he gets promoted to a more senior role in Oct 2015.

    • Ken Bland

      June 3, 2014 at 2:02 pm

      Mike NJ,

      Are you that down on Mike Adams also including him in the total garbage classification? I’m usually pretty optimistic when he comes in although he’s nowhere near as effective as he was with the Pads.

      You always call him Ruin, a pretty widespread choice. I’ve come to appreciate Amoron. Ruin’s not worn out, but the thrill of it’s worn off. Just my own opinion, not a plea for change.

  35. Scotty Ingerton

    June 3, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    I definitely don’t think that Amaro should be the guy handling this, but the fire sale is coming.


  36. Mike

    June 3, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Diekman should be embarrassed by his performance on Monday night. Not even so much that he gave up runs but that he threw a pitch that would have hit the Durham Bull and then
    BOUNCED a throw over to first. He doesn’t even seem to care. .

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