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Report: Phillies Scouting Red Sox System

There is smoke, could there be fire?

On Sunday, Boston beat writer Nick Cafardo wrote the Phillies scouted the Red Sox for three straight series, possibly to find something they would take in return for John Mayberry Jr.. Cafardo began to connect the dots again this morning, stating that his Major League sources say “pretty much everyone available on their roster is available in trade“, listing Mayberry, Domonic Brown, and Marlon Byrd all as possible fits for the Red Sox.

In his piece from earlier this morning, Cafardo says the Phillies have now scouted the Red Sox for five straight series. After their fourth straight loss, this could be the beginning of the fire sale.




  1. Mike in NJ

    June 4, 2014 at 10:41 am

    Byrd: IMO the most likely Phiilie to be traded pre-July 31st, especially with Burnett and Lee being big injury question marks at the moment. Decent player we might actually get something of value for, especially if we eat a couple million of the contract.

    Brown: Who the f*&% would trade for him the way he’s playing?!? Barely hitting .200, can’t track a fly ball, and waaay too lackadaisical both in the field and on the bases.

    Mayberry: I didn’t know the Sox need a RH bench player, but even if they are interested in Mayberry, we’re not getting of value anything for him. IMO he’s more likely to stay and get more time in RF after they trade Byrd, especially with Ruf being hurt again.

    • schmenkman

      June 4, 2014 at 11:19 am

      If I were another team I would be at least asking about Brown, to see if I could buy low and get a former top prospect without giving up much, and see if either a change of scenery or different coaching might turn him into Brandon Moss 2. The risk is minimal, and the reward could be huge.

      • Mike in NJ

        June 4, 2014 at 12:28 pm

        Phillies don’t really have any incentive to trade Brown. If he were making $4M a year or something, then yeah, part of the fire sale to reduce payroll. Whatever scrub they have in AAA they’d replace Brown with is going to be making almost as much as Brown. Besides, I still think Ruin is desperate to be proven right for all those times he refused to trade Brown in the past.

      • wbramh

        June 4, 2014 at 3:20 pm

        We’re back to agreeing with each other – which I prefer since you always make strong arguments.

        I can’t help but wonder whether the Tigers would show interest. While their weakest outfield position is probably center field and not a great fit for Dom, their hitting coach happens to be a a fellow named Wally Joyner.

        As horrific as Dom’s numbers are this year, you can’t have a spectacular month in this league without having the raw talent and potential. A good day or series can be a fluke, but not a good month is pushing it.

        Still, the classic advice of Branch Rickey comes into play. Better to sell a year early than a year too late. In Dom’s case, I can’t fault the Phillies for hoping but in 20-20 hindsight he should have been on the block in the off-season. Rumors persisted to that effect at the time. Maybe they couldn’t get quite the deal for Brown they hoped for during the winter meetings. Sadly, his worth now is probably zilch compared to what it was last June. But yeah, I’m sure some smart team with a good hitting coach would love to take an inexpensive chance on him. Perhaps the Phillies should be spelunking through Detroit’s farm system rather than the Red Sox system.

        A smart team might just pull off a steal – and it’s probably Dom’s only chance to approach those early aspirations.

    • DavidE

      June 4, 2014 at 9:42 pm

      John helped his trade value tonight by hitting a homerun off of Strasburg. Not sure what he will bring and not sure why he isn’t starting considering the alternative of Brown and Revere. Don’t lose hope. Remember the Red Sox were terrible in 2012 and the Giants and Brewers were terrible in 2013.

  2. Carlos

    June 4, 2014 at 11:45 am

    We need to be smart about how we trade and who we get in return. There in is the problem.
    The people making those decisions haven’t been doing a very good job. So until we get better at this I’m afraid any trade they make won’t help much.

  3. Dave

    June 4, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    Amaro asked Cherington what he would give us for D. Brown and Mayberry and Cherington said to pick anything off the concession stand menu.

  4. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 4, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    I am all for a firesale; however, I do not want Ruin anywhere near it, and, unfortunately, therein lies the problem.

    • Scotty Ingerton

      June 4, 2014 at 7:16 pm

      That’s the conundrum. The guy responsible for putting together the worst team that money can buy is now the same guy who is now in charge of trying to fix it. They really need someone from outside the organization to come in and clean house.

  5. Andrew from waldorf

    June 4, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    How come it takes some guy in Vegas who is barred from the sport to use common sense?

    Sorry but Rollins setting team records does nothing for me.

    • schmenkman

      June 4, 2014 at 9:06 pm


    • Phillies fan from Germany

      June 5, 2014 at 7:57 am

      That is a ridiculous statement from Rose who played until the age of 45 and gave his teams a combined bWAR of -2.6 over his last four seasons just to break another hit record…

      • wbramh

        June 5, 2014 at 1:04 pm

        Thank you.

  6. Mendoza

    June 4, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Forget it. Phillies can not improve. They suck.

    • Forgetaboutit

      June 4, 2014 at 9:47 pm

      This team aspires for a collective batting avg above the Mendoza line.

  7. Scotty Ingerton

    June 4, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    No short-term fix for Philadelphia –

    “A Phillies sell-off, on the other hand, might actually be bleaker than how they’re playing now, because they don’t really have movable pieces, and there really isn’t a core they’d be adding to.

    Jimmy Rollins is 35 years old and having a good season, but he’s about 200 plate appearances from having an $11 million vesting option kick in for 2015, which greatly diminishes whatever trade value he has. Carlos Ruiz, 35, could interest some team looking for catching, but he’s owed about $20 million. Ryan Howard is owed about $75 million and is hitting .226 and is unmovable; like a lot of others on the Phillies’ roster, he’s got a staggering option buyout, of $10 million. Marlon Byrd is hitting fine but is owed $8 million for 2015 and a vesting option for 2016.

    Cliff Lee is on the disabled list with elbow trouble and hasn’t been able to start a throwing program. Chase Utley is playing great, but he has become the Cal Ripken Jr. of this organization, something to offer a fan base that is staying away in increasing numbers, and given the sentimentality that has infected a lot of the team’s decision-making in recent years, it’s hard to imagine the Phillies ever moving him.

    Some in the organization recommended that the Phillies trade Domonic Brown last fall, long before his early 2014 slide — and Brown might have some trade value.”

  8. Scotty Ingerton

    June 4, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    Stark: “I had two scouts call me unsolicited today to tell me how bad the Phillies farm system is.”

  9. Andrew from waldorf

    June 4, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    Ill give Ruben this.

    He is consistent.

    Whatever he does you know how the end result will turn out.

    “Consistency is the hallmark of the unimaginative.”
    ― Oscar Wilde

    “Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago.”
    ― Bernard Berenson

    “Success is neither magical nor mysterious. Success is the natural consequence of consistently applying basic fundamentals.”
    ― Jim Rohn

    “Consistency is good, but progress is better.”
    ― Amit Kalantri

    “Consistency is a contraceptive; it prevents the birth of new things!”
    ― Mehmet Murat ildan

    “Variety may be the spice of life, but consistency pays the bills.”
    ― Doug Cooper

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