Is A Lineup Change Necessary? – Phillies Nation

Is A Lineup Change Necessary?

DobbsmissResembling a MASH unit, the Mets have called up top prospect Fernando Martinez after spending 2009 in triple-A Buffalo. And as quickly as that was announced, the Mets also proclaimed Martinez would start and bat sixth in tonight’s game against the Nationals.

Of course, the Mets have more scratches and bruises than most small-town hospitals, but the Phillies could learn from this innovative thinking. Last night the Phils offense looked lost and tired in a 5-3 loss to the Marlins. Specifically, Jayson Werth and Shane Victorino didn’t play well at all. Werth has been cradling a bad slump, while Vic made a gigantic baserunning error trying to steal second in last night’s ninth inning. It was possible one or both could sit the night out tonight.

So tonight’s lineup? Rollins. Victorino. Utley. Howard. Ibanez. Werth. Feliz. Ruiz. Blanton. AKA the same freakin’ lineup.

I’m not saying the Phils should call up Michael Taylor and start him. No. But when your regular best pinch hitter is hitting a paltry .139 because he supposedly hasn’t had enough chances … or when you want to give your newly called right-handed hitting prospect a chance to play (and against a lefty) …

Are we confident this similar lineup can churn out a bunch of runs tonight? Or should we want to see something fresh and new taking aim at the Marlins?

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  1. Greg V.

    May 26, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    Last night, I said Victorino’s blunder warranted a benching and I still believe this. Werth could use another trip to the bench as well. Even Raul has never hit tonight’s pitcher (per beerleaguer). I think it’s a good day to start Mayberry and I question why he isn’t.

  2. Justin

    May 26, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    Your not going to send Dobbs to 3rd base behind a ground ball pitcher like Blanton, I see him getting a start tomorrow but it’s hard to start him when Feliz is hitting so good, but still i see a day off for Pete Happy coming tomorrow to keep his legs fresh. Would have been a good time to sit Werth tonight but maybe Mayberry will get a chance tomorrow.

  3. Hollywood Hamels

    May 26, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    keep the lineup the way it is. its worked and will work.

  4. Keith

    May 26, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    I agree.

  5. Michael N.

    May 26, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    Basically this is the best line up out there when your 1-2 hitters are hitting i.e. rollins and victorino if they don’t hit this lineup don’t strikes if they do they’re down right dominant.

  6. Bruce

    May 26, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    I believe that lineup is what Manual started the season with. If indeed that is the official lineup tonight, then I do noticed that Werth is batting lower (6th) for obvious reasons; slump and 0 for 3 (3 k’s) vs Andrew Miller in 2008. Personally, I like to see Mayberry Jr’s righthanded bat against the lefty Miller. Victorino has been getting his hits and batting 2nd gives more speed at the top. That and additional right handed bat in the top of order.

  7. clicheguevara

    May 26, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    “A new, if not pathetic fan club was born – Madson’s Magicians. It was basically a guy and a girl with top hats, capes, canes and a few dances which looked like a cross between the Phanatic’s opposing pitcher jinx routine and Harry Potter and Hermione.”

    Got this from the top “related post”….wonder why this one never caught on

  8. The Little Guy

    May 26, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    The lineup last night was…Rollins, Utley, Ibanez, Howard, Werth, Victorino, Feliz, Ruiz, Moyer…..

    So i dont know what your talking about being the same lineup…

  9. Manimal

    May 26, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    I say we go..


    Just for the hell of it. Why the hell not?

  10. 85

    May 26, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Let’s not get drastic here. Occasionally they’ve thrown in one clunker with the bats per series, like with the Harang game in Cincinnati. But more often than not they’re going to hit. And it’s no secret that Werth hits lefties better, and ultimately it’s more important to get him going than to get Mayberry a few extra ups. Put Werth in there against the lefty and let’s hope he gets right.

    This is a great offense. Most nights they’ll be fine, and most nights they’ll win. It’s a marathon.

  11. joedad

    May 26, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Don’t mess with success.

  12. beta sigma shag

    May 26, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    anybody else think maybe werth is a better platoon player than every day player, I do not mean every day a righty is pitching he is sitting but 2 out of three or a least 1 out of three, or more often than not and see if he can start focusing again. IMO that is what it is, sometimes he loses focus and now he is pressing. When he is fighting for a job he focuses and performs. And it is just me but I like Utley third and Raul fifth if you are going with 3 lefties in a row. And why not for now put and if you want to break them up how about pete happy 3 raul 5th for now Pete is on fire. Because what is the differance 2 3 4 lefties or 3 4 5 lefties I dont get it

  13. Rich Corr

    May 26, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Werth needs a few days off… Play the kid.. Then give Victorino a few days off…

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